This is so encouraging. I really wish Barack Obama can win PA. It sounds like a miracle to me, but this would hasten the end of this horrible campaign, and the ugliness is wearing everyone down. Hillary is not electable, according to the latest polls, she is behind in the number game, and is a big liability to the party, and it's chances of winning in November. Obama at least, is rallying people from all parties, and brings a change the country badly needs. Enough of Bush and Clinton politics. It is time for a new era. Obama will be good for the country, and for the world.
grandma
· 1 year ago
I so agree Sage24
I am soooo hoping Obama will win in PA....and we can move on
firebrand
· 1 year ago
I think 35 thousand is a lowball figure. I would give it 40 ...maybe even 50 !thousand. The place was packed.
"but he ordered oj at a diner"-David Shuster and Chris Matthews
slappymagoo
· 1 year ago
Joe, your last sentence is incomplete. It should read
"You can probably add these 35,000 people to the list that Hillary doesn't like, doesn't agree with, and whose opinions don't matter."
Happy to help.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
The rally is a look at things to come. People are tired of the way things are done in Washington.
William Ayers: At some point, someone is going to ask the question, "How did this man become respected in his community? How did he find employment at the Univerisity of Illinois, Chicago? How does he task-up influential organizations?".
It proves to that the masses are like sheep--herded in any direction the talking heads are inclinde to lead them.
1BrianJ
· 1 year ago
I just saw the YouTube clip. I'm so excited to be going to see him tonight in Harrisburg. I think they are expecting 20,000!
"And today, Ron Brownstein writes a similar article for the National Journal that makes me feel --- truly --- that it's almost impossible for us lose this thing next fall:
In scope and sweep, tactics and scale, the marathon struggle between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton has triggered such a vast evolutionary leap in the way candidates pursue the presidency that it is likely to be remembered as the first true 21st-century campaign."
[ . . . ]
gonzalez
· 1 year ago
Obama is the one. Let us make sure we do everything we can to win and help to keep him honest. He should continue to tell the true no matter how painfull. We, the real Americans can handle the true and are tired of the lies from Clinton and the republican liers! TIME FOR A NEW BIGINING!
AdrianBrowne
· 1 year ago
Meanwhile John McCain is using some very "creative" campaign financing that needs some examination:
"The campaign has set up a hybrid campaign committee that will allow individual donors to contribute roughly $70,000 to Mr. McCain’s election efforts, far more than the $2,300 maximum that can be given to a general election campaign."
McCain: ‘A lot of our problems today are psychological.’
This week on Fox News, Neil Cavuto asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) about the worth of rescinding an 18-cent gas tax as prices at the pump escalate this summer. McCain responded that “a lot of our problems today” are “psychological” — even the “ability to keep our own home”:
Right on Grandma as always! But you might agree Insane was partially right: All of HIS problems are psychological!
Ksue
· 1 year ago
milosarah,
Could you please elaborate on this: "but the point is that the Obama campaign says one thing and creates this powerful vision, when the behavior of the campaign has NOT been in keeping with that."
In what way(s) has his campaign not been in keeping with his vision?
Thanks.
consult
· 1 year ago
Lets see... the Harry and Louise mailer is one example, taking a page right from the Republicans. The sexist dog whistles that have permeated Obama's language and were written by someone who knew exactly what he was doing are additional examples, although I and others have been roundly dismissed when we try and point that out. The way he brought up Hillary's tea and cookies as if to use it as an example of someone being misunderstood, when he really brought it up to remind PA voters that she once said it, etc.
mmedefarge
· 1 year ago
milosarah---what are you talking about???? and the cookies remark was spot on--it was what showed me Shillary's real persona 16 years ago.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Thanks for the links! What a speech and what a crowd! I love Philly and wish I could have been there to support our next President.
ivyfree
· 1 year ago
The whole thing reminds me of the huge rallys that were held for Kerry in 04. Bush holding a scandal a week administration, and seeing only his die-hard supporters by republican-sponsored tickets, with a fence between them... and thousands massing for Kerry at every stop.
Never underestimate the power of the Democrats to shoot themselves in the foot.
mmedefarge
· 1 year ago
One of my children lives just outside Philly, in Paoli, and Obama is going to be there at 2:00 today!!!
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
Yes...but I'm sure the national networks, led by ABC News, will ask the question: "But were these people patriots? Did they wear flag lapel pins?"
Then, of course, they'll drag out the cynics who growl about "St. Obama" and "the Messiah". . .ignoring how Republicans campaigned claiming George Bush had been appointed and annointed by God - in fact, almost ALL Republicans are annointed by God - a story which largely escaped any national media scrutiny in 2000 and 2004. This will be followed by that familiar doyenne of patriotic fervor, Ann Coulter, who will remind us that Obama's middle name is "Hussein" - and we all are supposed to know what THAT means. . .and ABC News waterboy George Stephie will immediately take notes and exclaim "What a very important and tough and appropriate debate question!"
Ksue
· 1 year ago
"The sexist dog whistles that have permeated Obama's language..."
What in the world are you talking about, milosarah?
consult
· 1 year ago
I have accepted Obama as the nominee but will never be "rapturous." He is politics as usual, but is just a lot smoother at it. Bringing up the tea and cookies the other night proves that (a R tactic at its best), as well as many other tactics of the campaign that progressives are refusing to acknowledge. The Obama folks are admittedly great at playing on negative messages without seeming like they are doing it at all. Genius. I fear a great disappointment but as a Democrat I am used to that. And, the viciousness directed at Clinton supporters makes me feel completely alienated from the progressive wing of the party, a place I used to call home.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
Politics as usual, but a little different, and this difference is "everything" in the world. While "Rapturous" is stretching it a bit, the energy he brings to the process is what the world needs at this very moment. He brings the concept of making government more transparent. And that, is the last thing the power structures that rule our economy and world want to happen.
We're in big trouble, because we've lost the ability to look over the shoulders of coporate America, and until we put this back in place, we'll continue on a down-hill slide. Hillary is part of the "game", and what strikes me as interesting, is that her true self is revealed more and more as time goes on.
Her numbers keep going down because more people are finding out that she's not what they thought she was. The same holds true for Obama, and why his numbers keep going up. Obama: The more we get to know him, the better we like him. Hillary: The more we get to know her, the less we like her.
It's the time factor, and works to an advantage or disadvantage of each candidate.
slappymagoo
· 1 year ago
Oh, come on! It's not like Hillary and her camp didn't earn every ounce of the enmity they've generated throughout the liberal blogosphere. If you feel alienated, maybe it's because you're supporting a candidate who stopped acting like a progressive a long time ago. Sure, she might still advocate progressive policies, but she's acting like a complete creep about it, she's been caught in lie after after lie, hypocritical statement after hypocritical statement. You can whine all you want that Obama's team is better at being negative, but we can counter that Obama's team wouldn't have had to go negative if Clinton had stayed positive.
consult
· 1 year ago
I don't disagree with what you are saying about the Clinton behavior, but the point is that the Obama campaign says one thing and creates this powerful vision, when the behavior of the campaign has NOT been in keeping with that. It just hasn't been and you all are in massive denial about that. If the campaign hasn't been in keeping with that vision than the administration won't be either. They just happen to be so good at it that it goes down smooth. The bad behavior of the Clinton campaign is no justification for the hypocrisy of the Obama campaign or the viciousness directed towards ordinary people who are or have been Clinton supporters. The 44% she still has are important to the party and are the ones feeling increasing alienated by the hatefulness. I am not alone by any means in this opinion.
slappymagoo
· 1 year ago
Milosarah, with all due respect, the analogy that springs most immediately to mind is if hypothetically you see your mom falling-on-her-face drunk trying to make out with your best friend, and then someone yells out "hey! Your mom's drunk and trying to make out with your best friend!" Who should you be mad at, the person who points this out, your best friend who's not trying to lead your mom on, or your mom for her poor judgment & bad behavior?
The 44% who are for Clinton should be angrier at her for her win-at-all-costs-and-damn-the-party strategery then Obama & his fans and followers pointing it out.
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
Yes...because we all know the Clinton supporters have been so very gracious.
All Comments
Obama will be good for the country, and for the world.
I am soooo hoping Obama will win in PA....and we can move on
corporate media refuses to pull the plug.
"You can probably add these 35,000 people to the list that Hillary doesn't like, doesn't agree with, and whose opinions don't matter."
Happy to help.
William Ayers: At some point, someone is going to ask the question, "How did this man become respected in his community? How did he find employment at the Univerisity of Illinois, Chicago? How does he task-up influential organizations?".
It proves to that the masses are like sheep--herded in any direction the talking heads are inclinde to lead them.
"And today, Ron Brownstein writes a similar article for the National Journal that makes me feel --- truly --- that it's almost impossible for us lose this thing next fall:
In scope and sweep, tactics and scale, the marathon struggle between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton has triggered such a vast evolutionary leap in the way candidates pursue the presidency that it is likely to be remembered as the first true 21st-century campaign."
[ . . . ]
"The campaign has set up a hybrid campaign committee that will allow individual donors to contribute roughly $70,000 to Mr. McCain’s election efforts, far more than the $2,300 maximum that can be given to a general election campaign."
[ . . . ]
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/19/us/politics/1...
This week on Fox News, Neil Cavuto asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) about the worth of rescinding an 18-cent gas tax as prices at the pump escalate this summer. McCain responded that “a lot of our problems today” are “psychological” — even the “ability to keep our own home”:
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/19/mccain-a-lo...
riiiiight.....it's all psychological...
he is too old and too confused
But you might agree Insane was partially right:
All of HIS problems are psychological!
Could you please elaborate on this: "but the point is that the Obama campaign says one thing and creates this powerful vision, when the behavior of the campaign has NOT been in keeping with that."
In what way(s) has his campaign not been in keeping with his vision?
Thanks.
What a speech and what a crowd!
I love Philly and wish I could have been there to support our next President.
Never underestimate the power of the Democrats to shoot themselves in the foot.
Then, of course, they'll drag out the cynics who growl about "St. Obama" and "the Messiah". . .ignoring how Republicans campaigned claiming George Bush had been appointed and annointed by God - in fact, almost ALL Republicans are annointed by God - a story which largely escaped any national media scrutiny in 2000 and 2004. This will be followed by that familiar doyenne of patriotic fervor, Ann Coulter, who will remind us that Obama's middle name is "Hussein" - and we all are supposed to know what THAT means. . .and ABC News waterboy George Stephie will immediately take notes and exclaim "What a very important and tough and appropriate debate question!"
What in the world are you talking about, milosarah?
We're in big trouble, because we've lost the ability to look over the shoulders of coporate America, and until we put this back in place, we'll continue on a down-hill slide. Hillary is part of the "game", and what strikes me as interesting, is that her true self is revealed more and more as time goes on.
Her numbers keep going down because more people are finding out that she's not what they thought she was. The same holds true for Obama, and why his numbers keep going up. Obama: The more we get to know him, the better we like him. Hillary: The more we get to know her, the less we like her.
It's the time factor, and works to an advantage or disadvantage of each candidate.
immediately to mind is if hypothetically you see your mom
falling-on-her-face drunk trying to make out with your best friend, and
then someone yells out "hey! Your mom's drunk and trying to make out
with your best friend!" Who should you be mad at, the person who points
this out, your best friend who's not trying to lead your mom on, or your
mom for her poor judgment & bad behavior?
The 44% who are for Clinton should be angrier at her for her
win-at-all-costs-and-damn-the-party strategery then Obama & his fans and
followers pointing it out.