AMERICAblog: A black reader weighs in on Hillary's new round of race-baiting
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
I'm amazed at the folks who don't feel the knife when someone like Pat Buchanan says of Obama, "He's so well-spoken..." Why doesn't Pat just say, "He talks like a high-faluting house slave"?
lov446
· 1 year ago
I agree with you completely, and as I have said before; I will not vote for her under any circumstance, and neither should anyone else. That would be giving her some credit, and she does not deserve any! I am disappointed in Pelosi and Reid for not taking a stand, but Bill Clinton must be twisting their arms. Does he own the democratic party or what?? I am a mid. age white woman, and have known from the start that Barack is the only one that is credible to be our President, and have always supported him. The Clintons are spoiled and just want their way, they do not care about any of us, and should be made to stop this endless mess.
vwcat
· 1 year ago
lov446, like you i am a mid age white woman. I have supported Obama since the start as the only candidate who can turn the country around. But, you ask if Bill Clinton thinks he owns the party. Both Clintons concider the democratic party as theirs. And no one else can be the leader. Well, guess what Bill, Obama has taken over the leadership of the party. yes! We! Can!
ChicagoKid
· 1 year ago
OT: Oh. I always make my presidential choice on the advice of a closet-case, anti-gay former mayor---NOT!!!
To the AA Reader to wrote that: I have alot of anger towards the Clintons for what they have done to the primaries and Sen. Obama. He has appealed to many white voters, Iowa, i.e., and just because they are now in an area of the country that is more entrenched and racist then the deep south it is not surprising so many older whites are resistant. While the pundits talks endlessly of the blue collar vote and Obama, they never bother to make the distinction that it is older blue collar and the younger one are voting Obama. I am middle aged, white, female and live in a working class neighborhood. I do live in Illinois but, my bumper sticker saying Obama 08 over the last year has gotten cheers by neighbors and not fright. I think it is the combination of the Clintons and media that has driven away some white voters but, not all. Besides, at 36 to 40 percent white vote is about what Kerry got in the GE in some of these areas. The Clintons need to take their race baiting selves and leave the stage.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
It's not where are the black leaders in Congress alone, it's where are members of Congress period? Let me a 65 year old woman, albeit one of those damned educated ones, add my FUCK HER to the writer's comments.
Milli
· 1 year ago
See, I don't think she will lose to McCain if she steals the nomination. She's no longer seeking dem voters because Obama has that sewn up. She is really seeking republican votes. She has been shamelessly pandering to them for the past three months and hoping that tactics like Limbaugh's "operation chaos" will really work. There is no way McCain will beat her. He's unimpressive, old, and has the personality of cardboard.
sukabi1
· 1 year ago
That's about as clear as it gets. She had the inside, sure bet track and has been soundly beaten.
"No one could have predicted" that playing on your gender or race or entitlement wouldn't go over with the rabble.
maggiePA08
· 1 year ago
TLH aka ZBK has been one of the most insightful and interesting posters I have ever read here in the many years I have been addicted to this blog. So glad to see him back in full force since yesterday. Congrats on the hat tip, well deserved!
ponchoinparadise
· 1 year ago
The first thing Hillary would if she were somehow able to snatch the nomination away would be to take the podium in black face and start bangin dat ol tam bow reen and dancin & Singin
" 10 cent meat, 5 cent cotton, 10 cent meat, 5 cent cotton" "It be hard times alllllllllll around" Masta got me workin"
And in delusional mind that would make things all better.
ChicagoKid
· 1 year ago
I'm asking all my white brothers and sisters to click on this link and flood cafferty's cnn email account with messages telling that you are white and Obama's got your vote. The MSM/SHRILLARY is pissing me off regarding the lie that white people won't vote for Obama. Let them hear you.
I agree. His posts are always thoughtful and well worded.
maggiePA08
· 1 year ago
yeah, M-high. While I love Ablog for the gay sensibility and snark, its the straight black guy from Jersey that always has me hanging on his every word! I love this blog!
mountainhigh
· 1 year ago
Hillary's "white" comments just enforce what Obama is trying to change and that is, the way things are done in this country. Hillary's assumption that a black man cannot get elected is old politics. In 31 states, white and black have come together and said she is wrong.
xumatthew
· 1 year ago
This is off the current topic, but I was just looking at the Indiana results. Now CNN has 99% reporting and Obama down by just over 14,000 (yesterday it was 99% reporting down by 22,000). The only county that isn't at 100% reporting is Hamilton county (above Indianapolis) which Obama is winning 61-39. I calculated that if that percent holds Obama would gain enough votes (a gain of about 2800) on Hilary to narrow the gap so that the statewide percents would go to 49.6% and 50.4%, or with rounding...a 50%-50% tie. So maybe Hilary didn't even squeak a victory out of Indiana, but a tie/split. I guess we'll see if my math holds up.
mountainhigh
· 1 year ago
xumatthew
If that is the case count on the fact it will never be mentioned in the media.
Chino_Blanco
· 1 year ago
Oddly enough, as a white voter, I feel the same as your African-American reader. Could it be because I'm a friggin' Democrat and I understand that it wasn't just me who put the Clintons into office the first time around?
As if our sorry asses ever got anything done without 90% of the black vote. Maybe Bill and Hill are just pissed because they never got above 85% and Gore and Kerry beat those numbers hands down?
We're Democrats. Not Amnesiacs. We don't get to wherever it is we think we're going without black and brown voters. That *used* to be the whole goddam point. What gives, Hillary? It ain't YOUR party, it's OUR party. We joined for a reason. We vote Democratic for a reason. Wise up already.
Who you got polling for you anyway? They didn't clue you into the fact that this would piss a lot of us off?
Wankers. Rejecting and denouncing this BS ain't gonna cut it. There's gonna have to be a full-on one-hour SNL special devoted to this shit. Lorne, I'm looking at you. I know you're lurking.
White guilt? How about white shame? I'm ashamed I'm the same tone of pink as that racist egomaniac. Plenty of 9-5 working class whites already voted for Obama. I guess they were just confused, huh, Hill? Didn't understand what being a Democrat was all about, and now you're gonna teach 'em. Is that it?
To hell with endorsements, where are our Party 'Elders' in all this? You don't have to endorse, you just have to open your goddam mouth and lay it out ... this.is.what.the.Democratic.coalition.is. Welcome to America. Al, you got 90% of the black vote in 2000. And you're gonna keep silent until it suits you? Enough is enough. Call these folks out on this BS.
redjb
· 1 year ago
George Will (I know I know) says it here
"Or perhaps she wins if Obama's popular vote total is, well, adjusted by counting each African American vote as only three-fifths of a vote. There is precedent, of sorts, for that arithmetic (see the Constitution, Article I, Section 2, before the 14th Amendment). "
EllaDisenchanted
· 1 year ago
Amen. And may I ask, where are the black leaders in Congress and outside? [Crickets]
Getting arrested in NYC?
LynnDee
· 1 year ago
Quote: "I am middle aged, white, female and live in a working class neighborhood."
Same here. I live in California, and my car has an Obama '08 sticker on it too.
I don't know who Hillary's talking to or about when she says Obama can't win white voters. And I cringe at her suggestion that white voters somehow "count" more than black voters.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
Quote: "I am middle aged, white, female and live in a working class neighborhood."
same here, except my neighborhood is as white conservative GOPer as it gets. can't have everything. i'm with Obama 100%, as is my whole family, even some who have been life-long GOPers.
Hillary's racist appeals to racist voters are reprehensible.
jr
· 1 year ago
"you showed courage against these people"-Hillary to Jesse Helms
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Why are Democratic women still supporting her? Hillary is not a feminist, nor a Democrat. She's a GOP mole hell bent on destroying the party because voters have rejected her. Hillary is channeling Joe Lieberman.
JennieB
· 1 year ago
This white, 48 year-old woman says "AMEN BUDDY." Every day, I grow to hate her more. She is truly vile.
tjowens
· 1 year ago
There is only one precinct out of 196 outstanding ... doesn't look mathematically possible to have a net gain of 2800 votes on that small sample.
shanobama
· 1 year ago
Hillary is wrong. Obama wins the total 17-64 age group.
Hillary gets the OLD vote The RETIRED vote And since women live longer than men the old WOMEN vote.
The McHales Navy re-run vote. God damn them to hell if they put McCain over Obama in November.
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
John,
You need to get an e-mail campaign going for us to write to the superdelegates and demand they choose sides and put this to an end. I am very confident that Obama is the most electable of the two democratic candidates. He will win over the doubters and get Hillary's voters if she withdraws gracefully and endorses him and campaigns for him.
berlin88
· 1 year ago
Email list to the supers is a grand idea. Can anybody get their hands on email, even snail mail addresses? Because if they dare overthrow the vote of the majority of the American people, there will be hell to pay. I for one would be extremely upset, and you don't want to upset this 64 year old white woman. I'm sure others feel the same way, and one potential outcome of that would be riots. The supers need to be made aware that they're playing with one mighty fire here.
scottinsf
· 1 year ago
Thank you. The reader that wrote that hit the nail on the head. There is nothing more to say.
scottinsf
· 1 year ago
And in answer to your last question John, I was glad to see Congressman Clyburn speak up a few days ago but yeah, we need more leaders in various minority groups speaking up about these divisive politics Clinton is playing. Why doesn't Solmonese and HRC speak up?
All Comments
Why doesn't Pat just say, "He talks like a high-faluting house slave"?
I am a mid. age white woman, and have known from the start that Barack is the only one that is credible to be our President, and have always supported him. The Clintons are spoiled and just want their way, they do not care about any of us, and should be made to stop this endless mess.
But, you ask if Bill Clinton thinks he owns the party. Both Clintons concider the democratic party as theirs. And no one else can be the leader. Well, guess what Bill, Obama has taken over the leadership of the party. yes! We! Can!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/07/ed-koc...
I have alot of anger towards the Clintons for what they have done to the primaries and Sen. Obama. He has appealed to many white voters, Iowa, i.e., and just because they are now in an area of the country that is more entrenched and racist then the deep south it is not surprising so many older whites are resistant. While the pundits talks endlessly of the blue collar vote and Obama, they never bother to make the distinction that it is older blue collar and the younger one are voting Obama.
I am middle aged, white, female and live in a working class neighborhood. I do live in Illinois but, my bumper sticker saying Obama 08 over the last year has gotten cheers by neighbors and not fright.
I think it is the combination of the Clintons and media that has driven away some white voters but, not all.
Besides, at 36 to 40 percent white vote is about what Kerry got in the GE in some of these areas.
The Clintons need to take their race baiting selves and leave the stage.
"No one could have predicted" that playing on your gender or race or entitlement wouldn't go over with the rabble.
snatch the nomination away would be to take the podium
in black face and start bangin dat ol tam bow reen and dancin &
Singin
" 10 cent meat, 5 cent cotton, 10 cent meat, 5 cent cotton"
"It be hard times alllllllllll around" Masta got me workin"
And in delusional mind that would make things all better.
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5t.html
thanks ChicagoKid-
done.
I agree. His posts are always thoughtful and well worded.
If that is the case count on the fact it will never be mentioned in the media.
As if our sorry asses ever got anything done without 90% of the black vote. Maybe Bill and Hill are just pissed because they never got above 85% and Gore and Kerry beat those numbers hands down?
We're Democrats. Not Amnesiacs. We don't get to wherever it is we think we're going without black and brown voters. That *used* to be the whole goddam point. What gives, Hillary? It ain't YOUR party, it's OUR party. We joined for a reason. We vote Democratic for a reason. Wise up already.
Who you got polling for you anyway? They didn't clue you into the fact that this would piss a lot of us off?
Wankers. Rejecting and denouncing this BS ain't gonna cut it. There's gonna have to be a full-on one-hour SNL special devoted to this shit. Lorne, I'm looking at you. I know you're lurking.
White guilt? How about white shame? I'm ashamed I'm the same tone of pink as that racist egomaniac. Plenty of 9-5 working class whites already voted for Obama. I guess they were just confused, huh, Hill? Didn't understand what being a Democrat was all about, and now you're gonna teach 'em. Is that it?
To hell with endorsements, where are our Party 'Elders' in all this? You don't have to endorse, you just have to open your goddam mouth and lay it out ... this.is.what.the.Democratic.coalition.is. Welcome to America. Al, you got 90% of the black vote in 2000. And you're gonna keep silent until it suits you? Enough is enough. Call these folks out on this BS.
"Or perhaps she wins if Obama's popular vote total is, well, adjusted by counting each African American vote as only three-fifths of a vote. There is precedent, of sorts, for that arithmetic (see the Constitution, Article I, Section 2, before the 14th Amendment). "
Getting arrested in NYC?
Same here. I live in California, and my car has an Obama '08 sticker on it too.
I don't know who Hillary's talking to or about when she says Obama can't win white voters. And I cringe at her suggestion that white voters somehow "count" more than black voters.
same here, except my neighborhood is as white conservative GOPer as it gets. can't have everything.
i'm with Obama 100%, as is my whole family, even some who have been life-long GOPers.
Hillary's racist appeals to racist voters are reprehensible.
Hillary gets the OLD vote
The RETIRED vote
And since women live longer than men
the old WOMEN vote.
The McHales Navy re-run vote.
God damn them to hell if they put McCain over Obama in November.
You need to get an e-mail campaign going for us to write to the superdelegates and demand they choose sides and put this to an end. I am very confident that Obama is the most electable of the two democratic candidates. He will win over the doubters and get Hillary's voters if she withdraws gracefully and endorses him and campaigns for him.