DISQUS

AMERICAblog: A growing consensus: McCain is a coward

  • UncommonSense · 1 year ago
    Yeah, Sarah Palin definitely wears the pants in that campaign. I mean, the woman is bold!

    How bold? She released a report tonight clearing herself in the Troopergate investigation.

    No, seriously.

    No. Seriously.

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-P...

    Now, that takes some stones, my friends. John McCain definitely cannot hang with that.
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    it's gonna be hard to convey her little "winky" in print... You know they are doing that to put in their next bunch of ads... while the real report that damns her gets scant attention in the media... they are playing bait and switch...
  • Fireblazes(cheetohsandcatfood) · 1 year ago
    I am 51 and when someone winks at me I make sure my wallet is still in my pocket.
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    LOL... you're not the only one... she's one creepy piece of work...
  • Fireblazes(cheetohsandcatfood) · 1 year ago
    Tomorrow, I am releasing a report about that raise I've been wanting.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    She is just being a good Republican, you know they always investigate themselves and wonder of wonders, they find themselves innocent.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    He should have said "BHO", instead of "that one". Crowds love red meat...
    I think McCain is yesterday's weasel who's found today's red meat. Wouldn't want to be in Barney's or Dodd's or BHO's shoes the next three weeks......
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    i don't think you suddenly change at age 72. i think you're seeing mccain's character laid bare.
  • Fireblazes(cheetohsandcatfood) · 1 year ago
    If you can't say it to my face, B!TCH, then you don't matter!
  • shanobama · 1 year ago
    I dont think McCain really believes this stuff. He may even know how ridiculous it is, he may be smart enough to use this material to manipulate people.

    He is just reinforcing the RW email smears that have been going around for the past two years. My RW former Marine neighbor has been sending me this stuff, and I always send it back corrected, or with a snopes link. IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MUCH YOU DEBUNK THIS STUFF. They believe it anyway.

    I ask this guy how he can belive these lies, and he says "but what if I'm right? (that Obama is a terrorist, etc)
    What the hell can you say to these people if they are going to believe fake emails instead of the facts? These are the people McCain is connecting to, and Palin. Their own bigotry (whether for 'liberals' or people of color) prohibit them from understanding the facts.

    McCain is smart enough to reinforce this cognitive dissonance.

    This post is for you BUSBOY, because I know you are on 'the list'-the same RW smear email list I am on. It sickens me, but you believe that crap. Sucker.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Hey, thanks for caring......
    What do you think of the "ACORN" investigations. One guy registered 72 times under different names? true or false?
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    That affects my 401k going to hell in a handbasket how?
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    How could you have a 401k? I thought you were independently wealthy.... I don't have a 401k, but a friend who does and lost $750,000 recently says that his is now a "101k"....
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    and you still envy him, right?
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    That was Obama's line from this morning, Busboy.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    I heard it 2 days ago. What's he gonna do next? Plagiarize a Neal Kinnock speech.... ;-)..
  • shanobama · 1 year ago
    I watched John Bogle give an interview on the financial services industry with Bill Moyers last year. This interview made me sell all my banking stocks last year. John Bogle was incredibly prescient.

    And I had Wachovia (A bank that Jim Cramer was touting as safe a few months ago because it payed a dividend) among others.

    Sometimes the 'reality based liberal media' can save your ass. Thank you Bill Moyers.
  • anarchy · 1 year ago
    so you're friends with whiners, huh?
    tell him to suck it up for BUSH and McCAIN, pal!!
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    do yourself a favor and read this.
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    'but what if i'm right?' - that is unbelievably funny. they say there is no pot of gold at the end of rainbows. but what if one day.... ;)
  • henrythefifth · 1 year ago
    Was anything more telling on this than when Obama hit McCain on "Bomb Bomb Iran," and his failures of judgment in Iraq during the 2nd debate, and McCain just took it?

    McCain is a bully (and a cowardly one at that). He has other people do his dirty work (his wife and Palin, lately) but can't do it face to face himself.

    Note: He will be forced to do it in the third debate, but the fact that he must know Obama is ready for it, and he can't know what Obama is going to say in response (and therefore can't have a completely appropriate canned zinger) must be eating away at him.

    Will be interesting to see. I think Obama will have an objective, yet appropriately witty response to anything McCain flings at him. Nothing enrages a cowardly bully more than calm, unassailable confidence in response.
  • Fireblazes(cheetohsandcatfood) · 1 year ago
    Standard fallback reply..."HEHHHHHH"
  • Fireblazes(cheetohsandcatfood) · 1 year ago
    My favorite moment of the day was when McCain said "My fellow Prisoners" and Palin looked like she was swallowing a turd.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    You are so right!!! That was the best!! We laughed for 10 minutes.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    I thought it was appropriate; as we are prisoners of this gigantic debt debacle engineered by Obama, Dodd, Schumer, Johnson and Raines. Talk about "fiddling while Rome burns"........
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    So are you saying it was a planned moment in the speech to take advantage of the current situation to give Americans confidence in his abilities by comparing them to captives who cannot fend for themselves and are at the mercy of government institutions led by Republican/conservative appointees and other officials or it was a gaffe that just made him look good for the moment?

    Interesting how you think Obama can engineer such a debacle when you also believe he has not had enough experience to be president. I recall your previous posts about that. What's up? You can't have it both ways
  • Fireblazes(cheetohsandcatfood) · 1 year ago
    Visualize a cat hacking up a furball. That isthe essence of busboy repeating the repube talking points!
  • shanobama · 1 year ago
    You have a typo there Busboy..
    "we are prisoners of this gigantic debt debacle engineered by Phil Gramm, McCain and the GOP Congress, signed into law by Clinton in 1999."

    Mortgage securitization and breaking down the firewalls between banking and securities brokers put in place after the LAST Great Depression. Did they think they were somehow smarter than the old guys?

    What the hell was 'conservative' about that? And where is Mr. Gramm? Dont we need his expert economic advise to solve the world wide banking crisis he caused?

    What the hell did they expect?
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    what are you talking about? this was mainly republican and some neo-liberal, born and bred. de-regulation, removal of uptick rule, no limits on debt structuring for paulson and other investment banking thieves. for 30 yrs repubs have tried to repeal glass-steigal. etc, etc,
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Paulsen is a "big time democrat liberal" What are you thinking?
  • unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago
    Above her bobble-head you can see the cartoon balloon... she's thinking, I'd rather be field dressing a moose.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    They're goading McCrazy.

    Will be interesting to see if he goes nuts during the next debate.
  • Fireblazes(cheetohsandcatfood) · 1 year ago
    We keep hoping. To see the SS have to shield Obama, priceless.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I also think that is what is going on. My the time the debate rolls around McCain is going to be so pissed he will be incoherent.
  • daingel · 1 year ago
    Here's what I'd like to see at the next debate.

    O: Senator McCain, do you have something to say to my face?
    M: Ehhhh?
    O: Senator did you just blink?
    M: (Blink Blink Wink Wink) gee golly ehhhh I could say anything when I was a POW
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    O: Senator McCain, do you want to bomb, bomb, bomb Iran? Blink once for yes, twice for no.
  • reelactor · 1 year ago
    And until Democrats stand up and demand equal treatment from the press they are cowards also. Take a look at the last three paragraphs from David Talbot, and ask yourself the question Where is the effin outrage?

    The Republican ticket is working hard this week to make Barack Obama's tenuous connection to graying, '60s revolutionary Bill Ayers a major campaign issue. But the Palins' connection to anti-American extremism is much more central to their political biographies.

    Imagine the uproar if Michelle Obama was revealed to have joined a black nationalist party whose founder preached armed secession from the United States and who enlisted the government of Iran in his cause? The Obama campaign would probably not have survived such an explosive revelation. Particularly if Barack Obama himself was videotaped giving the anti-American secessionists his wholehearted support just months ago.

    Where's the outrage, Sarah Palin has been asking this week, in her attacks on Obama's fuzzy ties to Ayers? The question is more appropriate when applied to her own disturbing associations.

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07...

    http://snipurl.com/48bk7
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I have to wonder about that. I mean the AIP was a well formed group intent secession and the Palins were right in line with the thinking. So why the hell isn't this plastered all over the papers.
  • reelactor · 1 year ago
    I have a feeling Obama will dump this in McCains lap next week, the press could eat it up until election day. Hopefully, this is the kind of thing that could defuse some of the hype which I think is really dangerous. These people really need to feel the heat.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    I never bought that "Bambi" stuff either.

    Obama's a basketball freak and you can tell he views campaigning as a sport similar to hoops.

    He's just so subtle that most people don't realize it.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    agree and don't think of me as trivial, but he has a great smile (and butt).
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    Not only a coward, but without honor.
    OT but, Nikkei down 10%+ whooooooo, just like last night...
    from mike malloy's show: 300 years of chattel slavery followed by 300 years of wage slavery and it's time for a real change:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism
  • mckathiki · 1 year ago
    Real heroes don't stand there and smirk while basking in the glory of being called a hero. Real heroes don't blow their own bugle all the time. John McCain is neither heroic nor brave. He has engaged in dishonorable conduct unbefitting to an officer and a gentleman. He can't even control the mob he is inciting and he needs to just shut up and go home before he causes irreparable harm.
  • scytherius · 1 year ago
    That is about what 80% of my buddies from Nam are calling him. That is the word they are using. "What a coward."
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Reminder for Cindy McCain:
    Get the June Lockhart costumes back to 'The Lost in Space' Museum...
    http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//...
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    perfect! I thought there was something weirdly sci-fi about that look, like some evil space doctor vampire something...
  • BarbaraGordon · 1 year ago
    I have seen three smear ads in rapid succession here in FL. Each one accuses Obama of being dangerous, too risky, etc....One made false accusations about him wanting to spend $1 trillion on top of the bailout; another said that he did not want to fund the troops. They are really throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks - all which the market keeps tanking.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    The same here in Denver. Starting about 7pm it is one solid McCain attack on Obama and Ayers Or the "who is Obama"
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Has Ayers made any type of statement about McCain's accusations? Why hasn't he said anything? So he was a Weatherman and was pardoned. He is now an academic leading a respectable life. I mean Bush was a drunk and supposedly a coke head but now he is president. For Bush it was "the past is the past" but I guess that is only good for Republicans.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    aquarius, Ayers is savvy enough to know whatever he said would be turned against Obama. In my opinion he is doing the right thing.
  • PeteWa · 1 year ago
    agreed.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    McCain knows one thing, if he opens that Pandora's Box, his house of cards is going to fall around his shoulders on National TV.
    Obama wants him to bring it up; he is daring McCain to bring it up. It will be interesting to see how this game of Chicken will play out.
  • PeteWa · 1 year ago
    To call McCain a coward is disrespectful to yellow bellies everywhere.
  • blakey · 1 year ago
    ....mc..mc...mc...mcCAIN...mc...mc...mc...mcCAIN
  • ivyfree · 1 year ago
    I'm a little bored with hearing about how McCain was a hero in Vietnam. Yes, he endured what he agrees with the Bush White House was not torture- at least, when they do it to others, they say it's not torture. But how much choice did he have? He acknowledged in his book that he broke, he wrote confessions for the North Vietnamese, he made propaganda films for them, and he tried to commit suicide. So how was he a hero? I can see that he endured a lot, but what exactly makes him a hero? So far as I've been able to tell, the man's been a scumbag most of his life, leaning on Daddy to get what he wanted.
  • TomJoad · 1 year ago
    Nobopdy seems to know what a hero is anymore. Being captured doesn't make one a hero. Enduring things (at least until you break) is not, because there is NO CHOICE involved. One could say "well, he knew when flying that he could be shot down, so he chose that" but those folks never think THEY are going to get shot down. They know the possibility exists..by the way, bombers from other wars report how the emotional distance (you drop bombs on people you never see) gets to you years after, but for some...that is the war equivalent of not having to "look at your opponent".
    So IF he had it as bad as the others, he was tortured, but after I mean, and if he did say "if they can't leave I won't" then that to me does qualify.

    But americans have really forgotten what hero means. It does mean conscious choice (and precludes...though often in reality not, being "out of your mind" at the time. Like a person that reacts...no choice, just react) of putting yourself in danger for a higher cause.

    Vietnam...another bad war. There was no higher cause there-.
  • bluestockton · 1 year ago
    You mean McCain's daughter Meghan, don't you, Joe? Meghan is the white one. I've never seen a picture of him hugging his Bengali daughter, Bridget, and she was missing from a group picture of the McCain and Palin families in People magazine. It was Cindy's idea to adopt her--wonder how the Grumpy Old Man really feels about Bridget?
  • TomJoad · 1 year ago
    For one I don't take it for granted he was a brave hero in Vietnam. I don't know. Neither does anyone else. I have heard different versions of what went on, and I just don't know what he did. I know getting captured is not heroic. I imagine the vietnamese knew of his connections. I heard he refused to be released early, and that is certainly laudable, and admirable.

    None of that matters. People can be physically brave, and emotional cowards. I have no way of knowing, but I think he actually physically hates Obama, and I think he has a hair trigger and knows it and I think he avoids looking at him because he is afraid of losing control. I think he avoids confrontation, because he knows he could lose it.

    He is a man out of balance. Completely. He's stunted emotionally, and that is not a safe person to be in that position of power. He bullies, we've all seen it even in interviews where it behoves him not to. He snaps, like a little chihuahua, hoping it fends off things he doesn't like. He's not strong. He's a complete phony (maybe Obama is too, I doubt it, but if so I'd rather have a phony that can make me think he is sincere)...that "my friends" bullshit really gets me...he seems absolutely childlike (in all the worst ways, and none of the openness or other good things cnildren can be) petulant, constantly sounding like a kid in the back seat saying "but OBAMA started it!!".

    He also gets away with tooting his own horn to a degree that is pathetic.
    "I'm not the kind of guy to phone it in" what a belligerent piece of work.

    I am beginning to think he is really mentally unbalanced from his actions.
    Anyone catch the "my fellow prisoners..." in his speech on the 8th? IF you see it, watch Palin and the other woman behind him, as their grins freeze on their faces thinking "did that jackass just say fellow prisoners instead of americans?"

    If Mc Cain wins, we are in for even worse...
  • fl79tr · 1 year ago
    Its been my experience that a lot, maybe most hard core right wingers are cowards deep down inside. That's why the idolize men so much. Like how George Bush is every Ned Flanders christian's version of Tyler Durden. I think it fits their profile at the very least. I mean, what are the odds? A fear monger is afraid. I thought he looked pretty skittish when Brokaw asked them to move out of the way of his teleprompter, and McCain literally jumped out of the way. I'm no analyst, but that body language says to me "beaten dog."
  • Wesinoregon · 1 year ago
    A Paper Tiger. If someone actually did push back at him in confrontations he'd cave in. The problem has always been people back off him. He needs his ass kicked.
  • IAmATVJunkie · 1 year ago
    I say we start calling him a pussy. He understands language like that.

    John McCain is a pussy.