AMERICAblog: ABC News -- Clinton on Iran Attack: 'Obliterate Them'
tbhull
· 1 year ago
Didn't she criticize Obama for being specific on Pakistan?
So much for not playing your hand.
John Aravosis
· 1 year ago
It's also not very presidential. You don't use phrases like "obliterate them." It makes you sound stupid, and like you're lying actually. Yes, you make it clear that they will not survive if they go nuclear on Israel or anyone else, but phrases like "obliterate them" just strike me as crass pandering, and again, not very presidential.
bumpkis
· 1 year ago
Obliterate Iran....get that AIPAC money flowing .....campaign coffers low...OBLITERATE IRAN...kaching.....
houstonray
· 1 year ago
She's just gone totally over the edge, grasping at straws, huh? Damn....
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
exactly what we don't need.
LeslieB
· 1 year ago
Iran doesn't have WMD. Even if they had WMD, which they don't, it's highly unlikely they'd use WMD in a first-strike against Israel. They prefer to use proxies, such as Hezbollah. It's equally unlikely that Israel would use WMD against Iran in a first-strike. So the scenario is far-fetched.
Then for Clinton to say, "we'd obliterate them," is really scary. Iran has a population of over 65 million people, about 25% of them under the age of 15. She's going to obliterate them?!
Could we not have presidential candidates threatening war with Iran, and another war in the Middle East.
poliblog
· 1 year ago
Absolutely not acceptable. My fiance's family is from Tehran. The Persian people will not suffer for the stupidity of the Iranian regime and the US for allowing them to steal the power in 1979.
I cannot accept this type of reckless comments about something so important to me.
CitizenX
· 1 year ago
Israel = a couple of hundred nuclear weapons Iran = trying to develop nuclear energy....
and idiots are talking about Iran being a danger
devis1
· 1 year ago
Is she courting Condi as her VP? The rhetoric is hurtful past the politics of this primary. The people of the middle east are not tone deaf and her remarks do nothing to help the US in that part of the world.
Patriot
· 1 year ago
It scares me more that she might of made these comments off the cuff without even considering it would be good pandering. If that is the case then aside from not being presidential its highly reactionary and demonstrates lack of forward thinking before commenting on dangerous subjects.
freewayblogger
· 1 year ago
Someone should mention to her it might not be a good idea to kill millions of innocent people who had no say over their governement's actions.
LeslieB
· 1 year ago
Whatever happened to diplomacy?
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Annie Oakley+Nukes = Hillary Clinton. Yikes!
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Hmmm....maybe Hillary made this comment after knocking back shots and pints, bar crawling over the weekend? C'mon, we all say dumb shit, when we're out of our minds! :-)
Patriot
· 1 year ago
freewayblogger,
If the majority in this country doesn't wise up, and soon, the people in this country may not have a say in OUR governments actions. Honestly, I'm not sure we have in a long time.
interlude
· 1 year ago
can you spell self-destruct ?
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Busboy Wasn't it Jimmy Carter who sent the "Peacock Throne" down the old tubes?
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Well, the Shah sent himself down the tubes. Carter just didn't help him.
sukabi1
· 1 year ago
Hey, leave Hillary alone, she's goin' after the "nuke 'em all and let Jeebus sort 'em out" crowd... namely McCain's base...
Could she be running a more "Republican" campaign?
At this point it's just sad.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
John Aravosis It's also not very presidential. You don't use phrases like "obliterate them." It makes you sound stupid, and like you're lying actually. Yes, you make it clear that they will not survive if they go nuclear on Israel or anyone else, but phrases like "obliterate them" just strike me as crass pandering, and again, not very presidential.
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Well, it USED TO BE not very presidential.
I think the bar's been lowered since Bush started shooting his mouth off like some kind of punk-president.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Bet Hillary says "Bring it on" next.
devis1
· 1 year ago
Busboy, I don't follow links to UPI-a fully owned moonie operation. Please. You dissapoint me.
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
Hillary likes to sound more and more Republican because she has been garnering so many endorsements from the same people who have reviled her for the last fifteen years. It's almost amazing to watch this transformation - almost as if she has completely forgotten how the wingnuts attacked her and has been sucked right in to believing they actually want her to not only be the Democratic candidate, but the President.
It doesn't matter if the wingnut Pittsburgh newspaper is suddenly "impressed" with the Senator, after years of launching campaigns against her and her husband without ever meeting her at all. And it doesn't matter to her that Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter have declared her better than McSame - all con games to help her along and then launch the longed-for attacks the Right has been storing up for a dozen years against the Clinton dynasty.
I was one of the people who was utterly surprised, frankly, when Hillary decided to run this term. Not because I think she'd be a bad President, but because conservative pundits and newspapers and gum-smackin' talkin' heads on the radio and teevee have told the American people for eight years that Hillary is the biggest danger to the very universe and to watch out - she is gonna run for President. Strategically I thought it was a mistake for her to run this time, specifically because the Clintons did so little to effectively counter what Hillary once called the vast "right wing conspiracy." Her high negative numbers among American voters isn't ALL her fault - we know that - and yet she hasn't managed to use her large public exposure in this campaign to whittle down the effect of all those years of right-wing demonization.
We've seen the beginnings of that effort in terms of Obama - the unseemly "Osama" nonsense, the ridiculous flag lapel pin "issue", the hilarious "Rev. Wright-said-bad-things-about-America-so-Obama-is-anti-American" line of crap, the internet whispering of "you know, Obama is really a Muslim - his middle name is Hussein". That is the level the conservatives deal with running for the highest office in the land - testimony to just how deeply they love America and how desperate they are to engage the public in anything BUT the Bush Administration record and the dismal failure of the neo-con dominionist alliance politics.
Hillary has now embraced this kind of campaigning. I'm not sure if she thinks it will endear her to the Right, who we all know will throw her under the bus the moment she gets the nomination, laughing all the way - or if she thinks she is showing Americans that she can get as down and dirty as Republicans. And that is, unfortunately, where she fails me - and in my opinion - the American people. Most people are sick and tired of the schoolyard bullying of conservative political activists who, once they get their turn in office, deliver nothing of substance and often make things worse. Since they attack anything that is fact-based, they are incapable of making any good decisions that aren't based on their ideology - a marriage of fear-and-smear fascism with a strange devotion to some non-denominational political action committee "church" which opens the pearly gates only for the rich and greedy.
So the more Hillary sounds like a politically cross-dressing neo-con, the less likely I am willing to trust her if she did become President. The only signal I get from her campaigns is that Hillary will do whatever she wants - when she wants it and when it is profitable to her - and damn the people. We've just had two terms of a President with that sort of complex.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Kev;
It's kind of weird how Hillary and McCain are both willing to humiliate themselves to the same people who tried to destroy them, isn't it?
As Hunter Thompson said: "How low do you have to sink to become president these days?"
unrepentant_expat
· 1 year ago
"Busboy Wasn't it Jimmy Carter who sent the "Peacock Throne" down the old tubes?"
But it wasn't Carter who played some dumb assed game of extreme Iranian regime change which dislodged a whole mountain of boulders which is still coming down today
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Don't see Hillary in 2012.
She's losing even when she had big money and big endorsements lined up ahead of time.
Imagine if she had to compete on an even playing field?
She'd look just like Lieberman in 2004.
devis1
· 1 year ago
Did Obama raise the $1million in a minute today? Anyone know?
Chris From Maine
· 1 year ago
wow.. hard to believe, but that is even more to the right then Bush or McCain.
and she wants to be the DEMOCRATIC nominee???
Chris From Maine
· 1 year ago
if George Allen hadn't macacaed himself, he would be an obvious pick as McCain's VP.
I dont think he will choose LIEberman, he will pick a young hardcore fundie. (maybe Huckabee)
devis1
· 1 year ago
Not much on the news today about the skirmish at the Afghan-Iranian border. I heard it on Fox Radio News this am. Nothing like a little false flag operation there for bombs away?
I find great enjoyment in the slim pickens McCain has for his VP choice. Jeez, look at the bimbos they had running for top slot.
devis1
· 1 year ago
and I'd knock someone out if they tried to come between me and my Belgian waffle busboy!!
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Haley Barbour?
devis1
· 1 year ago
I think Barbour has too much dirt--questionable contracts were awarded after Katrina. Saw something--I'm too tired for links tonight-sorry. Is Obama going to be on The Daily Show tonight?
devis1
· 1 year ago
Nope--did you know Helen Thomas left them when the moonies took over?
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Busboy How could Haley Barbour help McCain in Ohio? Forget it.... Haley could help Obama more than McCain.
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McCain thinks he can carry the Midwest and the Southwest.
He needs to lock down the South.
Also, Mississippi is close enough to Florida to make a difference in the panhandle.
devis1
· 1 year ago
Well, goodnite folks. Bush bites-just saw your comment Putin is Bush with brains--cracked me up. and on that note have a good one all!
Andrew A. Gill
· 1 year ago
Nice that we have a candidate endorsing genocide.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
We'll see, Busboy.
I see McCain picking a good ole boy, with some Fundie connections.
You see him picking an Arnold/Mitt type (back before Mitt tried to be a conservative, that is).
We'll see soon enough.
dg43201
· 1 year ago
Can you try to not manufacture news, the first rule of journalism is to present the FACTS. Posting a 18 second snipit of an interview is not presenting the facts. Your attacks on Clinton are unfounded and disgraceful, you are turning into the Fox News of blogs
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
kevinbgoode:
"...So the more Hillary sounds like a politically cross-dressing neo-con, the less likely I am willing to trust her if she did become President. The only signal I get from her campaigns is that Hillary will do whatever she wants - when she wants it and when it is profitable to her - and damn the people. We've just had two terms of a President with that sort of complex."
Thank you for the excellent summary!
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Oh, yeah, I forgot the topic. Not presidential? Absolutely, I agree. She sounds like Pat Buchanan.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Wasn't it Jimmy Carter who sent the "Peacock Throne" down the old tubes?
Busboy
· 1 year ago
She really is acting like a punch drunk fighter on wobbly legs. No serious candidate at this stage in the game (especially after the Obama Pakistan faux pas) with all their faculties working would make that statement. If there was multiple choice; I would have picked McCain as the one who said it.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Naschkatsehussein, you make an interesting point. There are a whole lot of pundits who think that Hillary wants to politically mortally wound Obama so that she can be the next nominee 4 years from now. Also, there are a lot who believe that they should do everthing in their power to help her get the nomination this time because McCain can beat her. The DOJ action in Philly may well be an attempt by Rove to encourage the Hispanic vote; which probably breaks strongly for Hillary.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
IMO; McCain would love to have Lieberman on the ticket as VP.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
She'd probably rather commit genocide than give Bill a BJ...
And, BB, I don't think McCain is worried about the south.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
You might not like what she said; or the way she said it. But, she did speak the truth for a change.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
This can't be good news for Obama. Justice department to monitor Philly election to make sure (my take) that illegal aliens who can't speak English get to vote. Motor voter registration; what a grand idea!
If it weren't for the fact that it's the Bush DOJ, I would welcome them because I fear a lot of hanky-panky by the Democratic machine, but in this case, maybe it's to help that sort of thing along and get Hillary nominated.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Maybe Obama's getting punch drunk too. "let me eat my waffle" is not a good response to a serious foreign policy question(note to Devis.... it's from AFP, not UPI):
He's got to pick someone who can help him in the North and East; and Huckabee can't do that. I'm sure he'd pick Schwarzenneger if he was a natural born citizen and have a shot at Kaleeforneeya.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Devis, I didn't say it was a "Belgian" waffle! You didn't go to that odious Moonie driven UPI site, did you??
Busboy
· 1 year ago
How could Haley Barbour help McCain in Ohio? Forget it.... Haley could help Obama more than McCain.
All Comments
So much for not playing your hand.
Then for Clinton to say, "we'd obliterate them," is really scary. Iran has a population of over 65 million people, about 25% of them under the age of 15. She's going to obliterate them?!
Could we not have presidential candidates threatening war with Iran, and another war in the Middle East.
I cannot accept this type of reckless comments about something so important to me.
Iran = trying to develop nuclear energy....
and idiots are talking about Iran being a danger
If the majority in this country doesn't wise up, and soon, the people in this country may not have a say in OUR governments actions. Honestly, I'm not sure we have in a long time.
Wasn't it Jimmy Carter who sent the "Peacock Throne" down the old tubes?
----
Well, the Shah sent himself down the tubes. Carter just didn't help him.
Could she be running a more "Republican" campaign?
At this point it's just sad.
It's also not very presidential. You don't use phrases like "obliterate them." It makes you sound stupid, and like you're lying actually. Yes, you make it clear that they will not survive if they go nuclear on Israel or anyone else, but phrases like "obliterate them" just strike me as crass pandering, and again, not very presidential.
----
Well, it USED TO BE not very presidential.
I think the bar's been lowered since Bush started shooting his mouth off like some kind of punk-president.
It doesn't matter if the wingnut Pittsburgh newspaper is suddenly "impressed" with the Senator, after years of launching campaigns against her and her husband without ever meeting her at all. And it doesn't matter to her that Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter have declared her better than McSame - all con games to help her along and then launch the longed-for attacks the Right has been storing up for a dozen years against the Clinton dynasty.
I was one of the people who was utterly surprised, frankly, when Hillary decided to run this term. Not because I think she'd be a bad President, but because conservative pundits and newspapers and gum-smackin' talkin' heads on the radio and teevee have told the American people for eight years that Hillary is the biggest danger to the very universe and to watch out - she is gonna run for President. Strategically I thought it was a mistake for her to run this time, specifically because the Clintons did so little to effectively counter what Hillary once called the vast "right wing conspiracy." Her high negative numbers among American voters isn't ALL her fault - we know that - and yet she hasn't managed to use her large public exposure in this campaign to whittle down the effect of all those years of right-wing demonization.
We've seen the beginnings of that effort in terms of Obama - the unseemly "Osama" nonsense, the ridiculous flag lapel pin "issue", the hilarious "Rev. Wright-said-bad-things-about-America-so-Obama-is-anti-American" line of crap, the internet whispering of "you know, Obama is really a Muslim - his middle name is Hussein". That is the level the conservatives deal with running for the highest office in the land - testimony to just how deeply they love America and how desperate they are to engage the public in anything BUT the Bush Administration record and the dismal failure of the neo-con dominionist alliance politics.
Hillary has now embraced this kind of campaigning. I'm not sure if she thinks it will endear her to the Right, who we all know will throw her under the bus the moment she gets the nomination, laughing all the way - or if she thinks she is showing Americans that she can get as down and dirty as Republicans. And that is, unfortunately, where she fails me - and in my opinion - the American people. Most people are sick and tired of the schoolyard bullying of conservative political activists who, once they get their turn in office, deliver nothing of substance and often make things worse. Since they attack anything that is fact-based, they are incapable of making any good decisions that aren't based on their ideology - a marriage of fear-and-smear fascism with a strange devotion to some non-denominational political action committee "church" which opens the pearly gates only for the rich and greedy.
So the more Hillary sounds like a politically cross-dressing neo-con, the less likely I am willing to trust her if she did become President. The only signal I get from her campaigns is that Hillary will do whatever she wants - when she wants it and when it is profitable to her - and damn the people. We've just had two terms of a President with that sort of complex.
It's kind of weird how Hillary and McCain are both willing to humiliate themselves to the same people who tried to destroy them, isn't it?
As Hunter Thompson said: "How low do you have to sink to become president these days?"
Wasn't it Jimmy Carter who sent the "Peacock Throne" down the old tubes?"
But it wasn't Carter who played some dumb assed game of extreme Iranian regime change which dislodged a whole mountain of boulders which is still coming down today
She's losing even when she had big money and big endorsements lined up ahead of time.
Imagine if she had to compete on an even playing field?
She'd look just like Lieberman in 2004.
and she wants to be the DEMOCRATIC nominee???
I dont think he will choose LIEberman, he will pick a young hardcore fundie. (maybe Huckabee)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24226079/
How could Haley Barbour help McCain in Ohio? Forget it.... Haley could help Obama more than McCain.
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McCain thinks he can carry the Midwest and the Southwest.
He needs to lock down the South.
Also, Mississippi is close enough to Florida to make a difference in the panhandle.
I see McCain picking a good ole boy, with some Fundie connections.
You see him picking an Arnold/Mitt type (back before Mitt tried to be a conservative, that is).
We'll see soon enough.
"...So the more Hillary sounds like a politically cross-dressing neo-con, the less likely I am willing to trust her if she did become President. The only signal I get from her campaigns is that Hillary will do whatever she wants - when she wants it and when it is profitable to her - and damn the people. We've just had two terms of a President with that sort of complex."
Thank you for the excellent summary!
And, BB, I don't think McCain is worried about the south.
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2008/04/2...
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=0804220...