AMERICAblog: ABC: Palin may have lied in a court document re Troopergate
jixter
· 1 year ago
Is there anybody left who'll be surprised by this?
unrepentant_expat
· 1 year ago
Obviously, Sarah Palin will fit in in a Republican administration. Hopefully that will be in a penal institution!
Wild_Weasel
· 1 year ago
Palin needs someone to run interference, hide documents, and cover up, kind of like Alberto Gonzales did for Bush.
switched
· 1 year ago
I'm not surprised by this. The burning question for me is if I receive a subpoena can I ignore it or do I have to be a Republican politician to ignore it? I suppose Todd Palin refusing his subpoena means that any average Joe can as well? If I'm correct that I would be in for a world of hurt by refusing a subpoena why do the GOP faithful endorse this behavior? More questions than answers but this Bush-lead ignore the law movement is very strange to me as it seems to break all of the oversight citizens should expect. But a huge percentage of our citizens are fine with that? Weird.
jixter
· 1 year ago
Very strange to me, too, switched. I got stopped in my tracks when the Valerie Plame treason happened. What? Reveal the identitiy of a covert CIA agent? Out of the White House? Cheney? Addington? Libby? And the President DID NOTHING about it - even when he said he would? And Armitage was the fall-guy so it's all "ok" now? And everybody else shrugged and walked away?
Yeah, rules are for us, not them. Nothing seems to matter anymore. I'm now at a place in my life where I used to see older people standing. I'd hear them talk about how the world had all gone wrong; hell-in-a-handbasket; down the tubes, etc... I'd roll my eyes and scoff at them. Now I'm there and I understand.
shanobama
· 1 year ago
Leave Bible Spice alone!!1! r !!!1!!!1
jixter
· 1 year ago
Good one, shanobama!
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
She might not have lied to the Judge. It is more likely she lied to the American people. Her reason stated below would not have looked good to Hillary supporters..in fact, it is worse than the rape kit debacle.
""The last straw," her lawyer argued, came when he planned a trip to Washington, D.C., to seek federal funds for an aggressive anti-sexual-violence program. The project, expected to cost from $10 million to $20 million a year for five years, would have been the first of its kind in Alaska, which leads the nation in reported forcible rape."
What the f**k is Palin's problem with rape victims?
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
This needs to find legs. The woman is dangerously deranged. Not only is she a nutty, book burning, loon, she HATES women. Feminist my ass.
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
Let me get this right. It's not okay to ask for federal funds to help stop sexual abuse of women and children, but it's A - Okay to have federal funds to research the mating habits of fucking crabs. The woman is a danger to all women. She is sick sick, sick...
LeftCoastOracle
· 1 year ago
Well, well, well. It would appear that Gov. Palin's staff is in the habit of authorizing travel to D.C. without asking the purpose of the trip. Else they would have known that Monegan intended to seek funding to fight sex crimes - a worthy pursuit.
It's amazing that Palin is ostensibly a feminist and yet opposed to seeking help to fight sex crimes in the state with the highest rate of same.
If she did lie to a judge she should be impeached and removed from office as Governor of Alaska - and she certainly shouldn't be permitted to stand for election to the vice presidency.
gustavmahler
· 1 year ago
Oh come on people, after 3 weeks of picking at her, she makes a little slip, she misspoke. Give her a break, she was a POW for 5 years.
JamesR
· 1 year ago
I think anything with a "gate" at the end of it's name ought to be severely insulted by being associated with this whole scenario. It is so incredibly STUPID it hurts. Not a "Gate' nor "Dome" nor "Business" nor "Affair." It Palins in comparison.
1.: Interesting to see if the 'MSM' find and pick at the difference between a real "lobbying trip" and a state law enforcement officer traveling to take advantage of a Federal program.
2.: Also interesting to see if any could camp out on Senator Stevens's doorstep to get a choice comment and
3.: Interesting to track the members of the RNC committee that would have to meet to initiate the removal of her as VP candidate and see when they start panicking and meet in secret somewhere....
cereal
· 1 year ago
The article doesn't make clear exactly what this "court filing" was, but it's almost certainly not grounds for perjury. Perjury requires a lie made under oath. This sounds like a motion paper or brief, which is not a sworn statement in the sense that gets you perjury charges if you lie. In these papers Palin woulnd't have signed - her lawyer would have. He might face Rule 11 issues (or state proceudre rule equivalent) but that's not equivalent to perjury, and he can always say he just repeated what she told him and so submitted this in good faith, no problem. If she lied to him, it wasn't under oath.
Sleazy, outrageous, sure, but unless this was a handful of court filings - e.g. verified complaint (no way under these circumstances, she's not the one who filed this action) or maybe an interrogatory response (which is actually a sworn statement by the party responding to written questions) this isn't "perjury."
ron071
· 1 year ago
cereal: This comment is double talk of the kind that makes lawyers look really bad. How can this be from a Republican when they always tell us how they hate lawyers? Hypocrisy from the Repugs once again!
cereal
· 1 year ago
I'm sorry you find "facts" and "accuracy" to be "double talk." And I'm not Republican. I'm a lifelong Democrat and you won't find a more outraged opponent of all that is Bush-Cheney-Palin GOPism.
I wasn't trying to defend Palin - my point is that it does no-one any good to claim that Palin "lied to a judge" and might have committed "perjury" when that does not seem to actually be the case. Criticisms that are exaggerated or can't be backed up or can be dismissed on what you call "double talk," i.e. maybe minor to you but actually factual points, tend to backfire.
DavidinChelseaMA
· 1 year ago
All of a sudden, after this serious financial crisis, any Palin story seems soooo early September 2008. She is so done with, its not even funny. And good riddance.
SouthernYankee
· 1 year ago
Moose momma bitch will get away with it.
cmccbald
· 1 year ago
The article you link to contains this: ""The last straw," her (Palin's) lawyer argued, came when he (public safety commissioner Monegan) planned a trip to Washington, D.C., to seek federal funds for an aggressive anti-sexual-violence program."
Damn him! The very idea of "an aggressive anti-sexual-violence program" is almost too horrible to contemplate. The man is clearly not a true conservative, meaning not truly a red-blooded American, and certainly he's not a good Bible-believing Christian male who knows how to keep his woman in her place. What kind of a name is Monegan, anyway. Sounds sort of like Mohammed.
It's good to see McCain and Palin standing up for the rights of those who prefer a little sadism, meaning a little discipline, with their sexual activities. The government should keep its hands off when it comes to sexual violence --and concentrate instead on regulating women's uteri (in case what Alan Greenspan would call "irrational exuberance" has some unintended consequences -- not unintended in terms of God's plans, of course).
cmccbald
· 1 year ago
Plus, as An_American_Karol notes below, the government must use its scarce resources to study "the fucking crabs."
I will admit it. We Democrats just don't care enough about the fucking crabs. Our only hope: I don't think McCain is smart enough to make this into a campaign slogan.
ron071
· 1 year ago
A SERIAL LIAR MUST BE PUBLICALLY IDENTIFIED FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE ELECTORATE!
How many lies are we expected to accept and excuse? This team of liars is beyond the pale and the brand must be placed on the perpetrators now!
PALIN / McSAME WILL EXCEED BUSH / CHENEY IN EVERY WAY!
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Yeah, rules are for us, not them. Nothing seems to matter anymore. I'm now at a place in my life where I used to see older people standing. I'd hear them talk about how the world had all gone wrong; hell-in-a-handbasket; down the tubes, etc... I'd roll my eyes and scoff at them. Now I'm there and I understand.
""The last straw," her lawyer argued, came when he planned a trip to Washington, D.C., to seek federal funds for an aggressive anti-sexual-violence program. The project, expected to cost from $10 million to $20 million a year for five years, would have been the first of its kind in Alaska, which leads the nation in reported forcible rape."
What the f**k is Palin's problem with rape victims?
Feminist my ass.
The woman is a danger to all women. She is sick sick, sick...
It's amazing that Palin is ostensibly a feminist and yet opposed to seeking help to fight sex crimes in the state with the highest rate of same.
If she did lie to a judge she should be impeached and removed from office as Governor of Alaska - and she certainly shouldn't be permitted to stand for election to the vice presidency.
1.: Interesting to see if the 'MSM' find and pick at the difference between a real "lobbying trip" and a state law enforcement officer traveling to take advantage of a Federal program.
2.: Also interesting to see if any could camp out on Senator Stevens's doorstep to get a choice comment and
3.: Interesting to track the members of the RNC committee that would have to meet to initiate the removal of her as VP candidate and see when they start panicking and meet in secret somewhere....
Sleazy, outrageous, sure, but unless this was a handful of court filings - e.g. verified complaint (no way under these circumstances, she's not the one who filed this action) or maybe an interrogatory response (which is actually a sworn statement by the party responding to written questions) this isn't "perjury."
This comment is double talk of the kind that makes lawyers look really bad. How can this be from a Republican when they always tell us how they hate lawyers? Hypocrisy from the Repugs once again!
I wasn't trying to defend Palin - my point is that it does no-one any good to claim that Palin "lied to a judge" and might have committed "perjury" when that does not seem to actually be the case. Criticisms that are exaggerated or can't be backed up or can be dismissed on what you call "double talk," i.e. maybe minor to you but actually factual points, tend to backfire.
Damn him! The very idea of "an aggressive anti-sexual-violence program" is almost too horrible to contemplate. The man is clearly not a true conservative, meaning not truly a red-blooded American, and certainly he's not a good Bible-believing Christian male who knows how to keep his woman in her place. What kind of a name is Monegan, anyway. Sounds sort of like Mohammed.
It's good to see McCain and Palin standing up for the rights of those who prefer a little sadism, meaning a little discipline, with their sexual activities. The government should keep its hands off when it comes to sexual violence --and concentrate instead on regulating women's uteri (in case what Alan Greenspan would call "irrational exuberance" has some unintended consequences -- not unintended in terms of God's plans, of course).
I will admit it. We Democrats just don't care enough about the fucking crabs. Our only hope: I don't think McCain is smart enough to make this into a campaign slogan.
OF THE ELECTORATE!
How many lies are we expected to accept and excuse? This team of liars is beyond the pale and the brand must be placed on the perpetrators now!
PALIN / McSAME WILL EXCEED BUSH / CHENEY IN EVERY WAY!