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You sure can pick'em John and company. You actually ditch the woman who openly stated her support for recognizing gay marriage benefits, for the one that's now openly opposed to it. I hope all of you hysterical Hillary haters are happy. Because she has done exactly what we said she would do and stepped aside graciously. Meanwhile Obama has turned into the Manchurian candidate with his FISA vote, his call for restricting some abortion rights, and now this anti-gay marriage stance! You people are fools! I hope you're happy!
he has ALWAYS said that he believes marriage is between a woman and a man, BUT that it should be left up to the states.
he also SUPPORTED the court's decision to legalize gay marriage in California.
where the fuck do you get your info??
Hillary's speech was all about unity, and you IMMEDIATELY posted on how nasty we 'Obama supporters' were.
even after I posted that I pictured Hillary as the next Sec. of State.
one post, no responses... you just disappeared until now.
which makes you a troll or a plant... not a Democrat... and I'd suspect, not a Hillary supporter either.
you're just stirring up shit... does mcsame pay well?
I thought her speech was very good except for that.
I don't disagree with many of the arguments you've brought up. Her speech was far from perfect and certainly wasn't the highlight of my favorite speeches so far. She DID throw her support behind Obama (the best that Hillary could) with that speech though. Will you grant her that? Nobody here has magically changed their opinion of Hillary overnight due to her uttering anything....well...no. Seriously. I do think most of us want to move on and attack the REAL enemy. I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
Let's go. We must destroy the repugs.
So let's move on and show the balance of the doubters why Obama is the best choice.
But I want to ask you about your issue with her not addressing reproductive rights. Do you actually think she wouldn't uphold Roe? That is the ONE area that I have had no worries from her, so I'm a bit surprised to hear it from you. What is your worry with this issue?
She did enough to win her votes in '12, but she didn't do enough to win Obama votes in '08.
You misunderstand me. The one issue her supporters care the most about is reproductive rights, and her supporters would suffer under a McCain administration who would stack the court with pro-life judges. She knew that is the one issue that could sway her supporters and she didn't mention it.
Stupid is as stupid does...
Please, let us move on from the horrors of the Primary, that chapter of the campaign is now over, thank god.
Sure there will be some supporters that will vote for McCain (heck see the dolt at the top of the page for a good example) but that doesn't mean that they all will, nor should we continue the rant.
Heck, I was against getting Hillary into office big time as I have been writing to the DNC and every possible source of power for years now. But those times are over (for the time being) and we need to combine our forces to get Obama into office. Let it go and focus.
Heck, Bill might even (pleasantly?) surprise us with his speech tonight...
So for the moment, I am fine with redirecting my ire and looking toward the win come November.
For goodness sakes, you are repeating today's talking points from the GOP; please don't give them any credence.
You are merely giving credence to the Republican's talking points today, you are repeating verbatim all that they have been trying to tear down. Do you actually realize this?
"It seems to be a very technical speech about being a Democrat, supporting (Obama) as a Democrat, but she never answered the big question (on whether he was ready)," Republican former New York City mayor and unsuccessful presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani told CNN.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
a Prisoner OF W----as in George W, Bush and all his policies
Nazi skinheads in a rented truck with Weapons, Bullett proof vest and fake ID's!
Ten minmutes aftet the report..."Naw, not a serious threat to Obama".....
Fuck no, they were pulled over!
Maybe she'd be secretary of state in a McCain admin.
Let us hope that we see more of the same from other outlets.
We saw a similar pattern in the last two elections. When do we grow up and smell the coffee. It is time to go on the offensive with ads questioning McCain's relationship with lobbyists, his outright lies and pandering as well as his ethics and character.
We will be buried as usual to the typical commentary that this time our superior ethics and our higher form of campaigning will bring us victory.
Grow up little babies. There is a significant difference between character assassination as practiced by McCain and Karl Rove versus a legitimate debate of ethics, ties to special interests and the character to put the country first over pandering to special interest groups.
John McCain is a LIAR!
Keep REPEATING in our emails to friends, what we write here, what we say to others:
McCain is a LIAR!
i love the coverage you are giving -- no sensationalistic fluff and whatnot. i have found that in terms of television coverage, pbs and bbc are doing a non-biased coverage that i appreciate. plus pbs is showing just about all of the activities without having their moronic talking-heads yammering throughout.
i was wondering if you could address something for me, though. gwen ifill (sp??) interviewed michelle obama last night and michelle talked about observing two completely different conversations while on the campaign trail. there was the conversation of doom and gloom and whatever from the pundits, and then there was the one that real americans were having with the obamas. are you getting a sense of that in denver? are the people attending the convention having different conversations than, say, mrs. greenspan et al?
john, as always, thanks for the work you guys do.
will
Any mind-reader can tell you that, for sure.
Darn! Steal my thunder will you! <g> Too bad the Republicans aren't silent.
Better yet, I would have the Republicans as they were before Nixon and Watergate, when they weren't so disgraced that they had no choice but to disgrace themselves further. I only we still had Republicans of a previous generation when they were real conservatives, instead of crooks bigots, thieves and, yes, murderers. We always did have an extreme right as witnessed by the assassinations of JFK, RFK and MLK, but it wasn't every single Republican as it is now. We need conservatives to keep the left liberals and I don't want to eliminate conservatives. But if only the Republicans were conservatives.
;-)
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/27/845...
"after Friday, the engagement might be off... " nice!
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+sh...
Gustav - Republican's worst nightmare
Better start praying Republicans! God ain't happy with ya.
Having said that, let's all hope and pray that the storm doesn't hurt the country or its peoples like Katrina. I dread this season as so much of the infrastructure in this country is at an all time low level. It wouldn't take much to put many areas into Disaster territory.
John McSame approved this lie. Lets do a commercial showing a bunch of his lies while his pinochio nose grows and grows.
Call him the fucking liar that he is. He is NOT an honorable man.
I say we scare the pants off of them and play hard...
Also yes, the big news story next week will be the Hurricane hitting Lousiana how appropriate. Forecasts only showing a minimal Cat 3, but dont be shocked if this is a monster of a storm ala Camille, Andrew, Katrina. My thoughts are certainly with New Orleans as this could be a devastating blow to those folks.
Yes, it is sickening. Democrats have been celebrating how good Obama makes us look to the world and how popular Obama is beyond our borders. If Obama loses, we are going to be very sick puppies to the world and as much I was shamed before the world when Bush became president, McCain will be even worse since we had the chance to elect Obama.
Also yes, the big news story next week will be the Hurricane hitting Lousiana how appropriate.
Please don't celebrate a hurricane hitting the country regardliess of how bad it makes the Republican look. Many, many innocent people just as there were many innocents in Iraq. Many would vote for Obama if they could. No one other than the Republicans deserve to suffer for the sins the Republicans have committed ... well, maybe Pelosi and Reid for protecting and kissing up to Bush and his gang of criminals.
http://clashorama.com/index.php?id=191
MAJOR MCCAIN ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
back in the 60s/early 70s,
John McCain was a prisoner-of-war.
Film at 11, 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc etc
I really don't get it. Why are you still being so evil and cruel and unfair to Hillary and her supporters? It's not up to Hillary to convince her supporters to do Obama's bidding. Who is the presumptive here? Who is the candidate? Who is the "leader" that he can't get off his own butt and invite her supporters himself? My god, he had a servant call her and tell her she wasn't going to be picked for Vice President?!!! Why the hell did he even bother with that? Not one modicum of diplomacy, no leadership, not one bit of civility toward Hillary or her supporters, no diplomacy and this is your leader? Just a condescending throw away line by Michelle in her speech to placate us?!!! What for? Why bother. The man got a sweet heart deal, no down and 3 percent below the interest rate you and I have to pay, on a house he "bought" from a convicted felon, and yet has the audacity and gall to point to McCain’s homes. He has not shown one bit of effort to ask for our votes. He has tried to quell us at the convention and tell us we are not allowed to show any Hillary paraphernalia, this is democracy? This is your candidate??!!!! You called ours a "bitch" called us sore losers, said "we don't need your vote" and now you scowl at one of the most brilliant minds and strong persons in politics in 2 centuries, demand her supporters fall in line and yet and yet, you want Hillary to bale Obama out yet again? You people make me sick. I am a yellow dog liberal who has voted straight democratic for 40 years and I will vote now for McCain. Because I know, that Obama is inexperienced, greedy, ambitious to a fault and ruthless. I'm not fooled when I see him stab his pointed finger in the air, bark his speeches, and then pound the podium while demanding we vote for him and insist he's already won. “Si se puede?” Oh yeah, he stole that from Cezar Chavez. He stole Hillary's ideas from her speeches to make his one speech which he reads over and over. And now, he's stealing McCain's ideas as his own. He voted "present' 100 times when crucial decisions needed to be made. He didn't put Hillary on the VP list when she had 18 million votes! he can't even unite his own party without Hillary. We need a Madam President, not a mr. present. I'm voting for McCain because McCain deserves my vote. Obama does not. And yes, I am a statistic, a man, a gay man, a liberal, who, like 4.5 million other Hillary supporters, will vote for McCain. Hope you're happy, you and your candidate failed to unite this party. It's prophetic isn't it? Divided We Fail(ed). And it's Obama's fault, not Hillary's. He's the presumptive, he's the candidate, he's the "leader". And if she does run again we won’t need your votes, we will win without your votes. Hillary got the popular vote, not Obama. He paid upwards of 100,000 dollars per delegate, to buy super delegates. He got it the same way Bush got it, he was "selected". That's how you want your leader? Just like Bush? This election is now Obama’s to lose so don’t blame Hillary, he’s not the right stuff. And yes, your Obama is going to lose.The Buck stops at Barack. What candidate alienates 18 million voters by mistreating their candidate? What fool does that?! What arrogant fool refuses to make the effort to show leadership and ask her voters for their votes?! He has her do it for him. Well, we're not going to vote for someone who acts that childish. He can't be any better than McCain. I'll vote for McCain, he works well with Hillary, Kennedy and Biden! To hell with Barack the little boy! He's supposed to be the great unifier?!! Come on with the lies; strength? integrity? Give me a flippin break! PUMA! Will Barack acknowlege his failings when he loses the election?!!! Don't hold your breath! Obama is always too little too late. We are still waiting for him to ask for our votes himself????!!! too late. McCain 2008.
EGADS, who are you that you would even USE such a term? Seems you come from a place wrought with some bigotry, now who would have guessed?
As for the rest of your manufactured rant (from GOPland no doubt), it is obvious that you don't read particularly well. Most in here are praising Hillary's performance last night, so please go back to your cave and hibernate for another few years.
McCain that your ilk. Obama is a thug.
An elitist shithole like yourself. I'm a liberal a lot longer than a snot
nosed shithole like you.
2. My ilk? Interesting way to respond since you know nothing of who I am.
3. Obama is a thug? EGADS, would you just stop this GOP nonsense! You can believe what you want, but you are giving such credence to such total crap manufactured from more of the same.
4. Me, an elitist $#@^hole? Well, I may be a $#@^hole, but I am no elitist. That is actually hilarious!
5. You claim you are a liberal longer than me? Funny, how would you even know how old I am or how long I have been a Democrat.
6. The rest of your ad hominem's are such a disappointment, at least learn to use some imagination when you insult someone online!
used it.
Obama is wannabe who has not earned my vote. You can vote for a crook if you
want.
I blocked you so I don't know how you got back in, but I'm blocking you
asshole - get lost.
I can tell by your arrogance you're a moron a retarded shithole, I'm a
liberal and you're the new moron.
Oh, and look at Obama's own brother, who lives in a hut and on one dollar a
month - that says it all, when
it comes to Obama and his own baggage, that sets the tone.
You "blocked" me? LOL, you can't block anyone in here UNLESS you're an op and I seriously doubt that is your status.
And as I said earlier, your ad hominen's are a disappointment to bloggers everywhere. Your continued lies and smears don't hold water and your manner is absurd and does little to foster your own credibility.
So please, be my guest and continue your rant, I am sure that John will be delighted to delete more of your slanderous lies. Be my guest...
truth" to say that Hillary was "old guard" and not an instrument of change
is a damn lie.
4 years from now Hillary will be the nominee and Barack will be here VP. For
now, it's 4 years of McCain first, thanks to your inexperienced and bumbling
candidate Barack.
You're going to lose. And it's your fault for being ugly to Hillary
supporters. You're an idiot.You don't be insolent to people whose votes you
need but then you're just as stupid as the arrogant Barack. You're going to
lose. Get use to it. And yes you are blocked. Now you go right into the
delete file where you your trashy mind belongs - loser.
Gosh, I guess I'm not BLOCKED, am I? By the way, I do believe it is YOU who are being "insolent" (good word by the way) to the people here, not the other way around.
LOLOL....
country, but there was a crack that could be fatal.
Obama was so busy thinking he's already President he forgot to ask 18
million voters directly, "I want your vote, we need your vote to win and I'm
asking you to stay in your party and consider me, please".
We've already seen the despicable way he's treated Hillary; having an aide
call her to tell her she's not VP, excuse me?! Why bother?!
The one throw away line by Michelle, Hillary blab la...." to placate us,
why bother?
We're on the long stick of many many insults by Obama supporters, "get over
it, you're candidate lost, she's a bitch, you're all sore losers, we don't
need your votes", while McCain seems to feel our pain and has openly invited
us directly "Please consider me for your vote".
Mind you it was 18 million voters who are wholly being ignored by Obama.
After 3 months we still want to hear from his own mouth, Obama say directly
to us "please vote for me". He didn't; big mistake. He didn't say he would
be using Hillary, other than getting his votes for him, for any cabinet or
leadership role in his administration. Big mistake.
Today McCain will announce his VP, imagine, for a moment, if it is a woman,
the governor of Alaska or the female founder and CEO of EBay. Suddenly the
4.5 million disgruntled men and women who voted for Hillary (30% plus poll
estimates of the ones who don't want to vote for Obama and will vote McCain
and 27% more undecided), who saw how badly Obama and his big mouth
supporters treated Hillary and them, her supporters. Now imagine that McCain
has the smarts to fight back, convince voters he's not Bush and Obama is not
Martin Luther King and what's more, Obama himself voted 90% of the time, in
line with Bush, check the record, it's a fact, and the rest of the time he
voted "present" 120 times, 4 months out of the year, and vacationed the
other 8 months. On crucial issues Obama just voted "present".
"We need a Madam Vice President, not a mr. present" McCain will say.
"Obama has never held down a job for more than 3 years, much less the most
important job in the world, for 4 years. "
And then there is Obama's baggage. A lot. Enough to fill a book and these
voters are looking to find reasons not to vote for Obama.
In his speech Obama spoke of his mother, passed over for better jobs
because she was a woman. He spoke of the starving people who no one bothers
to feed.
My God, the man doesn't see the irony in his own actions, in his own life.
The Republicans will.
They'll bring out his starving brother in Africa whom Obama has visited but
never bothered to help.
Then they will bring out and display all of the charity work Cindy has done,
her philanthropy is prolific.
If I was an Obama supporter right now, me personally, I'd be praying McCain
listens to his senile side and chooses Lieberman instead of a smart,
successful and wealthy woman.
I I don't think Obama will be a good president. He might not win.
I think he will take the bar that Bush has raised so high, and party and go
on vacation even more than Bush, who has taken off a total of 2 years out of
the last 5.
Why? Obama's character - a leader doesn't vote present on 120 crucial
issues, a savvy politician does; it avoids the risk of making the perceived
wrong decision/ "mistake".
He had up on his website his agreement and alignment with Bush's Iraq war
which he took off soon after he started to run for the Presidency, and he
has a war supporter in Biden, leaving the liberal side of the party in
doubts.
Show me a candidate who walks their talk and I'll show you Hillary and
Nader, and possibly McCain in some ways.
When he had the executive privilege to leave the POW camps early, because
his father was a general, McCain stayed 6 more years.
Would "the elitist" Obama have done the same? If he thinks he's better than
us, that he can take an offer on his mortgage that you and I would never
get, just because he's a Senator, would he think that he was entitled to
leave the POW camp early? I think Obama would have skipped out on his
tortured buddies in a New York minute. Not all politicians exploit and take
advantage of their status, only the corrupt ones. And Obama has that for his
proven track record.
He just wants to be President. Will he really deliver on his speech? Has he
ever? The answer is no.
What I saw last night was the Democratic party (and Obama) taking credit
for 8 years of well managed peace and prosperity and excluding the very 2
people who were responsible for that management.
I love the Democratic family. I always have, The very best, most of them
women party leaders, are dead now and gone but I remember those women's
fiery speeches for ethics, hope, and the where with all to change what
needed changing.
I am a yellow dog liberal who has voted straight democrat for 40 years.
Although I can't fully enjoy now,the convention and campaign, now that I've
been excluded and ostracized, then condescended to by the newer members of
my own party, well what was once my party too.
We 18 million Hillary supporters are outsiders now, Obama doesn't even ask
for our votes, not one modicum of diplomacy or respect for Hillary and her
supporters.
And Obama? He could care less. Big mistake.
For now, he's "too little too late Obama" in my book.
Out of pure insecure jealousy Michelle nixed Hillary. She had nothing to
fear but her own fear and now women are looking at the exuberant Sarah
Palin, governor of Alaska for McCains possible VP choice.
Even lifelong democrats absolutely love her there, " a breath of fresh air
they say" and they're right. She's the most impressive Republican I've ever
gotten to know.
Obama is in deep deep trouble, when this is over and he's lost it may even
put a strain on their marriage.
I wonder how long it will take for McCain to pull the ultimate coup an make
Obama's dream his own. Turnabout is fair play.
But the cinematic fanfare of last night's convention was utterly
breathtaking; a beautiful dream of hope and truer possibilities.
then we'll see desperate ;o)
So I guess you paid Andyz a compliment, of sorts. How nice!
California just passed 400 votes - why? Because it would have put Hillary on
top. You people are liars cheaters and thieves. What comes around goes
around.
Yes, You're blocked I'm just enjoying responding to you people. You make me
small minded trolly drollies ha!
can't stand the truth cause you know Obama is his worse enemy.
No how, no way, nobama!
The big 900lb. gorilla in the room is Obama himself. If his ideology is so
close to Clintons then why was she overlooked and her 18 million votes
dismissed? Obama is a flip flopper. Obama is a late adopter. I am looking at
McCains character and then Obama's and I find Obama sorely lacking. He
appointed Caroline Kennedy to vet the VP list?!! Are you kidding me? What
are her qualifications other than her name? I thought 18 million votes
decided Hillary's qualifications. So you see, there is this gorilla no one
has the honesty to address. This man is our unifier? No, he needs Hillary to
do that. This man is compassionate? Why is his half-brother living on a dirt
floor and on one dollar a month? Why? This is not about party unity, this is
about fundamental character that governs a persons actions. I question
Obama\'s maturity. He borrowed his one speech which he said over and over
during the campaign, from Hillary\'s many speeches. He even
borrowed/plagiarized "Si se puede" from Cesar Chavez. He opts for McCains
ideas now. What is so far apart from him and McCain?! If McCain says we need
to offshore drill, then so does Obambi. If McCain says we need to increase
forces in Afghanistan then so does Obama. He says we need to back-off on
corporate taxes - now so does Obama. He says we need nuclear energy now so
does Obama. We need to acknowledge this behavior.
He voted âpresentâ 120 times when crucial decisions needed to be made. He
didnât put Hillary on the VP list when she had 18 million votes! he canât
even unite his own party without Hillary. We need a Madam President, not a
mr. present. Iâm voting for McCain because McCain deserves my vote. Obama
does not. And yes, I am a statistic, a man, a gay man, a liberal, who, like
4.5 million other Hillary supporters, will vote for McCain. Hope youâre
happy, you and your candidate failed to unite this party. Itâs prophetic isnât
it? Divided We Fail(ed). And itâs Obamaâs fault, not Hillaryâs. Heâs the
presumptive, heâs the candidate, heâs the âleaderâ. And if she does run
again we wonât need your votes, we will win without your votes. Hillary is
unstoppable. She didnât upstage Obama, sheâs just better. Hillary got the
popular vote, not Obama. He paid upwards of 100,000 dollars per delegate, to
buy super delegates. He got the nomination the same way Bush got it, he was
âselectedâ. Thatâs how you want your leader? Just like Bush? This election
is now Obamaâs to lose so donât blame Hillary, heâs not the right stuff. And
yes, your Obama is going to lose and he wonât be needing a VP.The Buck stops
at Barack. What candidate alienates 18 million voters by mistreating their
candidate? What fool does that?! What arrogant fool refuses to make the
effort to show leadership and ask the runner upâs voters for their votes?!
He has her do it for him. Well, weâre not going to vote for someone who acts
that childish. He canât be any better than McCain. Iâll vote for McCain, he
works well with Hillary, Kennedy and Biden! To hell with Barack the little
boy! Heâs supposed to be the great unifier?!! Come on with the lies;
strength? integrity? Give me a flippin break! PUMA! Will Barack acknowledge
his failings when he loses the election?!!! Donât hold your breath! Weâre
still waiting for him to ask for our votes?! Heâs too little too late Obama.
There\'s your gorilla! Thank you for all the hard work and money you have
raised, Sacha, for Hillary. God bless you. Liberal for McCain 2008 - Scott
Pelham