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AMERICAblog: After Cheney and McCain's surprise visits, a deadly day in Iraq

  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    "In the Middle East and Southwest Asia, our overall objective is to remain the predominant outside power in the region and preserve U.S. and Western access to the region’s oil."

    Paul Wolfowitz
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    Shades of Saigon, 1974!
  • martha · 1 year ago
    Noone cares. We are all supposed to be outraged that a minister once gave a sermon that said the United States has done some evil things. And we are supposed to believe that someone who sat and listened to this man say these truths is now unfit to be president.
  • unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago
    Easter Sunday in the year of our Lord 2008 and more death in the Middle East. Maybe Jesus is waiting till it is less dangerous before coming back.
  • dad · 1 year ago
    McCheney

    failure. republican failure.
  • KatherineHepburnEyes · 1 year ago
    Is it possible the violence erupted because Cheney started shooting his gun off and McCain couldn't remember what country he was in and it offended the Iraqis?
  • 1billinnj2 · 1 year ago
    we are in iraq on a lie. that is the bottom line. we need to get out of iraq. that is the top line.
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    A friend of mine recently returned from the GreenZone. In an email exchange I asked him if he wanted to talk about anything. He said he had to sign a NON-DISCLOSURE agreement valid for 5 years. This is quite different from the normal agreement one signs agreeing NOT to reveal classified information.

    He is forbidden to discuss anything about his time in the Green Zone.
  • Chris From Maine · 1 year ago
    thats amazing. if they are bringing liberty and freedom to Iraq, why are they hiding information from the American people???

    Is freedom and liberty good enough for Iraq but not good enough for America?
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    I suspect he saw some real shit, especially re the new embassy compound...
  • Chris From Maine · 1 year ago
    or the fact that they are building a dozen permanent bases every one of them near an oil field.

    or serious torture, not just waterboarding, but the hardcore stuff that you dont hear about in the media.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    The Potemkin Travel Agency is the gift that keeps on giving to the Iraqi people
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    51 Iraqi civilians and soldiers, including two children.
    So, Cheney doesn’t give a flying fuck and McCain thinks that it is more reason to bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. It has nothing to do with their visits, the occupation or the Bush foreign policy because if we could just get in there and bomb Iran everything will fall into place and the Middle East would fall down on their knees thanking Bush and Cheney.

    All of this death and destruction that the Bush/Cheney/McCain policies have led to but all the MSM wants the American people to worry about is what one black man said about the US. I believe that these are the most dangerous times that we are in right now, Bush/Cheney/McCain will not just give up power quietly and go into retirement, death and destruction and a way to profit from it is all they know. The pursuit of power and keeping it at any cost, look at Bill and Hill they want power again so badly that they are willing to destroy the Democratic party in the process. They know that Hillary has lost to Obama but Bill and Hill have promises to keep and a lot of favors to pay back before they sleep.
  • Chris From Maine · 1 year ago
    lol I guess the indenting thing is gone, gotta pay attention I guess.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    Has it occurred to anybody that maybe the Iraqi's are just gathering their strength for another all out push. Why get shot during the surge let it die down and come out of hiding. This conflict cannot be won by America because we continue to just shoot and bomb at random because we don't know how to fight this kind of war. The Russians who I once thought were more ruthless than America couldn/t win in Afghanistan. because they didn't know who they were fighting a finally admitted that it was best to pack up and get out. We need to do the same. Protect America but let these tribes continue the conflict that has been raging for thousands of years.
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    Has it occurred to anybody that maybe the Iraqi's are just gathering their strength for another all out push. Why get shot during the surge let it die down and come out of hiding.
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    There was an article, maybe a year or two ago where a former Iraqi Army officer said when they are ready, they will push into the Green Zone and destory the occupiers. He mentioned they had the firepower, and inside intel to pull it off.
  • hector · 1 year ago
  • Sarah B. · 1 year ago
    Alas, we are on the threshold of yet another grim new milestone....

    Consequently, these latest numbers should be the lede on the front pages of every American newspaper of record -- but don't bother to look for them there beyond passing references embedded in a related article:

    U.S. troop deaths in Iraq to date (and counting): 3996

    U.S. troops wounded and requiring medical air transports (hostile and non-hostile) as of March 1, 2008 (and counting): 40,229,000

    U.S. troops requiring medical air transport for diseases and other medical issues as of March 1, 2008 (and counting) 23,052,000

    http://icasualties.org/oif/

    Earth to Bush: There is nothing "romantic" about these grim statistics and nothing "noble" about this tragic loss of life -- and that realization takes nothing away from the extraordinary courage and endurance and bravery and valor demonstrated by the soldiers and their families.

    Like the Iraq invasion/occupation that it was meant to rescue, the "surge" has not only failed, it has failed miserably!
    :(
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  • davidi92260 · 1 year ago
    The liberators.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    Some day, not on this earth, George Bush will be held accountable. They say he's a praying man, he better be real good at that when it comes time to explain to God what his actions were.
  • Sarah B. · 1 year ago
    Rab

    As an atheist, I very much prefer that George W. Bush and the entire Bush Crime Family be held accountable in public trials and punished with huge fines and prison sentences carried out right here on plant Earth for their massive crimes against humanity and the U.S. Constitution and the United Nations Charter and the Geneva Conventions and for multiple and serial violations of the U.S. federal statutes.

    Divine justice, if any there be, would just be a bonus.
    :)
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  • tofubo · 1 year ago
    Sirens went off, and loudspeakers blared, “Duck and cover! Duck and cover!”

    right before cheney landed, they leafleted and gave out portable youtube players to all in the area

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0K_LZDXp0I
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Why the surprise visits? Cheny and McCain must know the Iraqis want to greet their liberators with "flower power". :-)
  • tofubo · 1 year ago
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Let's just rename it the Brown and Yellow Zone! Or the Pucker Zone!! Incoming!! Be like a turtle: Duck and Cover! You can change your underpants later...
  • Joshau Norton · 1 year ago
    Yet the President of Iran made an announced visit and went everywhere without squadrons of troops to protect him. The Repig hawks have to make "surprise" appearances then sneak out of town in the dark like someone who owed the landlord 3 months back rent.

    Irony much?
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    A Conn newspaper has a case of buyer's remorse.....

    When The Day endorsed Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman for re-election in November 2006 it was supporting a candidate who demonstrated a history of pragmatic leadership and a willingness to seek bipartisan solutions.

    We wonder what happened to that senator.

    http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=ebf24507-9e00-...
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    When Bremer dismantled the Iraq army he should have been hung for treason. This Iraq army would have been fighting FOR us not AGAINST us right now. These repugs all thought they knew everything about Iraq and the U.S. was in charge and we knew everything about running a war. And the MSM and the rest of us sat back and let it happen. We didn't want to be labeled "unpatriotic."
  • unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago
    An Easter message from President Bush...
    "Money Trumps Peace Sometimes"
  • nicho · 1 year ago
    In the Iraqi dialect of Arabic, "mortars and grenades" sounds very much like "candy and flowers." It's an easy mistake to make.
  • Sarah B. · 1 year ago
    Josuha

    Excellent point -- the irony did not escape me, either, as I watched and compared Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's very public and much anticipated announced-in-advance ceremonial visit to Iraq -- with Iraqi PM Nouri al-Malaki there to welcome him with pomp and fanfare, hugs, kisses, and holding hands -- with the furtive slithering in and out of Iraq in the dark of night that characterized the recent Cheney and McCain visits.

    Also worth noting is the fact that Ahmadinejad came and went without a massive and sustained barrage of rockets and mortars raining down upon the Green Zone, like the attacks which we have witnessed today.

    Actually one could get irony fatigue from the double and triple doses of irony that we have to withstand in a 24-hour news cycle -- such as this bit of supreme irony from the Guardian on Friday:

    "Sunni militia strike could derail US strategy against al-Qaida"
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/21/ira...

    But, you really need to watch the video link at the Guardian website to get a visceral sense of just how pissed off the so-called Sunni Awakening Councils really are at the U.S. military:

    "80,000 Angry Men: Is the US Surge collapsing?
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2008/mar/...

    “In an investigation carried out by GuardianFilms for Channel 4, we uncover how thousands of Iraqis employed at $10 a day by the US to take on al-Qaida are threatening to go on strike because they say they have been used by the 'Americans to do their dirty work' and haven't been paid ."

    And this embarrassing bit of gross incompetence reported by the BBC yesterday didn't help, either:

    "US air strike kills 'Iraq allies' "
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7309292.stm

    "Six people have been killed in a US air strike near the Iraqi town of Samarra, with some reports suggesting they were US-allied anti-al-Qaeda Sunni fighters.

    "The US denied claims by a police source and a militia member that those killed at the checkpoint were members of an Awakening Council.

    "The US-funded groups are credited with helping to curb the level of violence."

    It's pretty fundamental -- you don't make “allies” out of the Sunni militias, aka Awakening Councils, and pay them not to shoot at American soldiers, and then kill the new "allies" by mistake with air strikes. It pisses off the new "allies" every damned time. Oh, the irony!

    Irony, upon irony, upon yet more irony....
    :)
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