AMERICAblog: After destroying the country, Republicans are planning to rebuild and re-energize their party. They really must be crushed.
dad
· 1 year ago
failure. republican failure.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
Crime! Republican crime!
It was deliberate. They knew what they were doing from the beginning. Bush was warned that Iraq wasn't a patsy, yet he persisted in telling us it would be a cake walk, that they would greet us in Baghdad with flowers and dancing girls in the streets. We told him thousands would die ... if only, 1.3 million innocent dead Iraqi civilians was our bad as we misjudged Bush's willingness to butcher, slaughter, massacre innocents, women children, old men and old women.
The economists also told him deregulation was handing over the cash to Wall Street criminals with no sanctions, but of course, Bush got his cut. There are trillions and trillions of dollars missing, unaccounted for and you say these are failures.
I say they are deliberate premeditated crimes and deliberate premeditated murder, mass and serial murder.
evan_la
· 1 year ago
"Show no mercy, they never did". No, they certainly didn't. GFY GOP. No sympathy, none whatsoever.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
GOP Establishment to Sarah Palin: "Sarah. . . we don't want to hit that any more. Get off MILF Island!"
Patrick_Bateman
· 1 year ago
By definition, liberals and progressives tend to be laid back, introspective people. IMHO, the party of Rove has seized that moment to fight bare fisted knowing it would take time for our passion to rise and boil and fight back. I for one, have had the gloves off for some time.
My work place has become tense. It's becoming nearly impossible not to debate everyone and anyone who claim support for McCain.
Mark in Florida
· 1 year ago
But is it nice to be armed with the truth. And watch them fold under their own ignorance. I work at my home office, and fortunately this election cycle I don't have to listen to such crap. I would be going ape shit about now in an office environment.
Mark in Florida
· 1 year ago
Also, short of telling off your boss.....give it right back to these people, don't be afraid. I bet you have been listening to these blowhards for years in that office. Don't back down, shut them down with an unequal disproportionate force.
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
Dear GOP...you wanna rebuild your party? Fine. Start with throwing out the Bible Belt polyester pastor shit like Pat Robertson and his ilk. Thanks ever so. Yours truly, one very pissed off faggot.
grandma
· 1 year ago
I agree with Wolcott on this one:
"....I don't want the Republican Party simply defeated in November, I want to see it smashed beyond all recognition, in such wriggling, writhing, anguished disarray that it can barely reconstitute itself, so desperate for answers that it looks to Newt Gingrich for visionary guidance, his wisdom and insight providing the perfect cup of hemlock to finish off the conservative movement for good so that it can rot in the salted earth of memory unmissed and unmourned in toxic obscurity."
OT OT but I just got this odd email saying that Obama has falsified his birth certificate and that he is unqualified, constitutionally, to be President. Does this shit have any legs? Some case is now in court.
grandma
· 1 year ago
There were a couple posts about that over at The Corner on Nat'l Review.....I figure they are so desperate now they are grasping at anything.
cmpnwtr
· 1 year ago
This story was debunked a long time ago. See factcheck.org
Older_Wiser
· 1 year ago
Absolutely NO LEGS. Just a last ditch ploy by extremists. Hawaii was a state when he was born there in 1961 and his mother was an American at the time even though his father was not.
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
Oh I figured as much. But apparently there is a case filed in court? Jesus they are really freaking out on the right if this is actually going to court.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
There real point is not arguable in court, but is emotional, that is Obama is not American citizen as N---- isn't human therefore can't be a citizen since citizenship is limited to human race. Of course, their argument invalidates the Chimpanzee-in-Chief.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Yes, if one of your parents is American, you can claim American citizenship, right?
I worry about Obama after he is Pres. I hope to god there is some real talent in the Secret Service nowadays.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
I think he needs to fire the current lot when you consider what has been going on at McCain/Palin rallies and they have done nothing about it. He must surround himself with loyal, hand-picked people, not people who are selected for him by someone else.
Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood)
· 1 year ago
"He knew the job was dangerous when he took it" I worry more about our country if he does NOT get elected.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
I hope they very carefully re-qualify every single member of the Secret Service, wouldn't even oppose requiring all agents assigned to Obama's security details must be African-Americans ... and still carefully vetted. Secret Service has other responsibilities such as, IRRC, counterfeiting and as long as they never come near Obama, I don't care who the idiots are. But even with all Black agents assigned to his security, I don't think his changes are very good of surviving two terms. I wouldn't put it past some southern Air Force general to order an air strike on the White House assisted by Republican insiders.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
They're going to vet his detail far more closely than any other president before him. I for don't think an all white detail would be the answer. You need agents that can read the "intent" on someone's face and in their actions. They'll do an excellent job I'm sure.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
The talent in the Secret Service has a different mindset. The agents around him are trained not to smile at a white face in the crowd. They don't see white! They see potential danger in every face and handshake. It's a different level awareness than if he were white. Trust me on this one Boston.
That jackass that shot Reagan was just another white face walking down the sidewalk, and I'll put money down that they didn't read the intent because he was one of them. It's the same shit I see when police walk up to a car that's pulled over on the side of the road and the driver is white. They have a different ease. Eveyone knows it, and everyone sees it.
You guard a black politician or president, and you're senses are keener and sharper--if nothing more than the fact you realize the odds are higher he's going to be some asshole's target.
Obama will be fine. The secret service will continue to do its job.
I'm not being racist here, just presenting the scenairo from a different angle.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
No legs, just an email blast to put doubts in the minds of the public. As you know, anything can be brought before a court of law. Simply a hoax. A Senatorial candidate is vetted beyond what you or I could imagine.
Every organization possible has done the research on this issue--you can count on that fact!
This is the jist of it. Remember, any one can file a lawsuit. This judge shot down the BS quick-fast.
You need to get about that writing career of yours....lol
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
I love you blackwolf...you are so encouraging about my very mediocre writing! This whole birthright thing is bullshit, I know. I had heard something months ago and this rightwing asshole (a fag, no less, what planet are they on?) sends out this thing today to his email list and it caught me off guard. I had NOT heard that a court brief had been filed. God they will try anything, won't they? I think a sidebar to Obama's success is that many right wingnuts are now panicking over the fact that the party will be out of power for some time. They can see the bloodshed going on for Senate and the House. Oh I wish Noriega here in TX could oust Jubilation T. Cornhole...aka Senator John Cornyn. Unfortunately we seem all to red in that area here.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
Don't celebrate too much. Even if the Democrats sweep everything possible including Obama in the White House by a massive majority, Democrats are also human and subject to corruption. No, I agree, corruption is not inherent in the Democratic Party as it is in the Republicans since Nixon's Southern Strategy. But comparison between to parties, excluding the current administration show corruption is about equal in numbers if not in kind. Don't forget we have that idiot in Florida who replaced Foley and is now in trouble for sexual abuse of his own staff and campaign workers. I would like to see the current Republican party all tossed in jail for long long sentences and replaced by honorable conservatives, like Goldwater and those of 40 years past. We need them if only to keep liberals honest and avoid them becoming as corrupted as say the Communists.
Also, never forget Obama is not a liberal, but a moderate, even worse, a corporate moderate.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
No need apologize Boston, I'm exactly the same. I walk on pins and needles because it's always in the back of mind that the Republicans wlll try something new. I have exactly the same reactions. I won't be able to rest until the day Obama is actually in the White House. It's that feeling that some surprise is always lurking around the corner waiting to pop up at the last minute.
Anyhow, we're sticking it out here, and this is the one place I can find relief from all the anxieties.
Mark in Florida
· 1 year ago
Here is the deal: The last 27 years will haunt the repbublican party for the next 20 years or so. They are incapable of nuance in a complicated world. Based on this simple tenant, they will not manage to figure out what Obama already knows. The world is not catch phrases, and one liners. Younger voters see through this. In the fast pace information age the republicans will find it impossible to use the same old tactics and create 'smoke and mirror' candidates from Ronald Reagan to Sarah Palin. They will have to actually discuss issues in the future......and when they do that. We all know what happens. Republicans fail because their entire philosophy is based on false logic.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Exactly...sooner or later someone with actual brains and wisdom and good judgment needs to be in charge.
ARP
· 1 year ago
I agree that the tactics and the recent incarnation of the Republican party is just sad (and a little evil). Personally, I don't have a problem with TRUE conservatives- small government, low taxes, pro-4th amendment, hands off on social issues, not the world police, etc. I think there's value in that philosophy to have as a good counter-balance to Democrats (as long as we still have the advantage).
I think they went downhill in the 80's when they brought in Evangelicals. That created this rift in their party that they've always had to do mental gymnastics to maintain.
grandma
· 1 year ago
They talk of not wanting a 'Nanny State'....yet they want to police who can get an abortion and who can get married.
Mark in Florida
· 1 year ago
They have been a Theocracy disguised as a party.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
This is true! So very true. The information age has put an end to the catch phrase. Reagan was the beginning, and Bush/McCain is the end of an era. It's blogs like these that offer facts at the speed of light.
Excellent post Mark:)
Mark in Florida
· 1 year ago
Thank you :-). Also, for all you folks (not on AB) who think this is the beginning of Palin's career. No way. She is the last embodiment of the sputtering 'one liner' Reaganesque vapid ideology. She is damaged goods, and will fade into oblivian as a joke.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
These are good times Mark, even in the midst of bad times. What will follow is a change in how we do intellectual business in the world. I think a problem here in America is how we go about getting to the truth of a matter. I have a great deal of disdain for the debating process. I think we're going to see a shift to a format where winning isn't how far off track you can throw your opponent. I think it'll reverse and become centered abound "sound" dialogue, where facts and commons sense are allowed to come into play.
I had a very quiet moment when watching Alan Greenspan admit that his thinking was flawed, and that he was dismayed (all of his colleagues) that the banking system wasn't able to police itself!
Mark, everything in my life has been secured and acquired because I understand the concept of ACCOUNTABILITY! This carries over with respect to being a father and a husband, being the best I can at whatever I do, friendships, accomplishing goals etc. There's always a structure in place, often self-imposed, that allows me to gauge my progress and performance at any point along the way.
I'D like your take (no hurry) on the mindsets of the Alan Greenspans' of the world. Let's give him credit for admitting the mistake, but what are the factors that allows an individual on that level to circumvent the OBVIOUS? And I say "on that level" because I believe the Alan Greenspans' of the world have extraordinary access to the knowledge of the history of the world beyond the norm of the average individual.
leo
· 1 year ago
'Completely fictional' might be their first 'simple' point since if they start with Ronnie, 'no deficit spending' might not be the most accurate description of what happens once they unfortunately gain office.
Another Republican sex scandal. Our former R state Senator, Chris Ortloff is in jail awaiting trial(denied bail) for arranging sex with under aged girl via the internet. He served Northern NY for 20 years and was serving on the Parole Board when this happened. he gets to KEEP HIS PENSION!!!!!!!!!
Karma ~ He pushed for the stronger laws that he will now be tried under!!!!!!
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
Fascinating turn of events. Consider the thought of what people fight "FOR" as opposed to what they fight 'AGAINST". He ended up trying to protect us against...'HIMSELF".
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
The Republican party can never be rebuilt. The principles they stand for are self defeating! Smaller government--can never work. ADEQUATE GOVERNMENT will. It's not the size of govenrnent, but the quality of servies it provides in proportion to the needs of the people.
The wealthy envision smaller govenment becuase there are less rebgulations in place that will keep them in check. They pay no taxes! Taxes aren't evil, but they help provide the services we all need such as healthcare, road construction, national park maintenance, and police and fire services at every level of government. We all know this!
The Republicans tickle me. Can you imagine if they were standing in front of the American people, and instead of saying ,"Obama wants to spread your weath around", would bone up and say, "Obama wants to SPREAD THE WEALTH OF THE SUPER RICH AROUND?".
Now for those who think this is socialism: WRONG! It's simply getting the rich to pay their fair share of the taxes.
grandma
· 1 year ago
True...instead of being for 'good' government they want none...so they can be as corrupt as their little hearts desire.
Except they do want government to pay for their illegal and immoral wars to enrich themselves.
Mark in Florida
· 1 year ago
yup.
Mark in Florida
· 1 year ago
You are exactly correct. Frankly, I would love a flat tax and get rid of deductions and the entire accounting industry. Bye bye. The tax system is a relic and a joke. I find it stunning that McSham continues to push this 'spread the weatlh around' meme. What a losing arguement.
Since when is getting a tax cut spreading the wealth?
These people are completely nuts. And these ignorant morons at these Palin rallies will be the first to collect their social security check, and accept medicaid, and send their kids to use the public schools system. I guess this makes them socialists, AND hypocrits.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
And how do they divorce themselves from the Religious Right? They can't rebuild until they get rid of their "base".
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
Fascinating! And right on the money. They can never rebuild, becuase it would mean "gutting" their base. If they gut the base, it will no longer be the Republican party. This is why I predict the party is in its last days. We can all thank Bush for it. He alone was able to expose the party for what its always been.
Millineryman
· 1 year ago
First step is to crush the Republicans, second and ongoing step is to be vigilant in keeping the Democrats in check and not allow them to get too comfortable with the power.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
The Repukes are at the same point the Democrats were in 1980. This year is our year for a political revolution, and may it take them 28 years or more to recover. By then we will be well on our way to being a multi-cultured country where whites will be a minority so lots of luck to them. They can love us or leave us.
Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood)
· 1 year ago
TODAY TEXT ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND ASK THEM IF THEY HAVE VOTED! If they haven't gather them up and take them to early voting TODAY!
Mark in Florida
· 1 year ago
Good idea. Also, if they live in Florida tell them to vote 'NO" on 2.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Rove's great vision for a permanent GOP majority is no more....thank God. Until they get rid of the Roves and Kristols in the Party there is no future for them.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Rove's vision was of a one party totalitarian state when you come down to it.
Mark in Florida
· 1 year ago
Hopefully, in the near future Rove will be in jail for voter caging fraud.
dad
· 1 year ago
rove over
munjoyfan
· 1 year ago
Let us start with forcing the Republican business and political leaders to carry through on their moral obligation to lend out that federal money. James Galbraith was on the Moyers Report last night laying out an impressive sequence of actions and solutions, starting with REGULATION. He talked about the incentives still in the system that reward continued misbehavior, and this article in the NYT points out a prime example. It's a teachable moment. Either the president and business leaders are going to change their behavior, or they aren't. Right now, they aren't. And it's costing us a bundle. The only thing that will make them change is a massive pushback from the American people. Move on, where is the email campaign? Congress and Senate, where is your outcry (you won't believe it, I got another of the sporadic spam emails from my Congressman last night and the subject was--don't hold your breath--legislation he had introduced to protect children from internet predators. HUH?????)
i think that republicans should build the future of their entire party around sarah palin.
they are already off to a good start.
Older_Wiser
· 1 year ago
One of the first things that needs to be done after the election is to tax every single penny made by any US company that tries to send its profits to offshore banks. That, and stopping any tax credits to those who engage in cheap labor practices which both undermine the US manufacturing base and the employability of American citizens.
BTW, does anyone really believe that Palin would care about "special needs children" if she herself did not have a Down Syndrome child? Does she have a history of this kind of advocacy? Did anyone notice how neatly she folded the issue into "school choice" which is a favorite segregationist technique of racist Rethugs?
stranded
· 1 year ago
These people are incapable of understanding what brought them down. Even now, the majority of the mouthpieces refuse to accept any responsibility for the mess they've made. Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, and all their acolytes absolutely live and breathe self-righteous bloodlust. They're not going anywhere. They'll continue spreading their poison. Hopefully, though, it will be for a smaller and smaller minority. But as long as they speak for Conservatives, their party will never find their way.
Gary SF
· 1 year ago
OT but important: The American Family Association has a website called One News Now. At the bottom of every page (except the home page) is: "f you believe OneNewsNow.com is an important source for Christian news, please consider a small tax-deductible gift for this service." But if you link to this page, you will see a major rant against Obama: http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=.... I believe that this rant disqualifies the AFA from any further tax exempt status. There are other nuggets on this site as well.
Older_Wiser
· 1 year ago
There was a piece on NPR last Thurs about churches lobbying for the Rethug ticket from the pulpit, and how 32 of them are challenging the IRS by doing this. They are actually telling congregations who to vote for--and openly risking their tax-exempt status. So far, the IRS has done nothing.
Buford
· 1 year ago
Perhaps the effort to reform the Republican party is the one scenario for which they should consider a strictly military solution, as opposed to a diplomatic one.
dances_with_beagles
· 1 year ago
The Democratic Party should make its primary objective to make the conservative principles espoused by Wamp so despised and rejected by the American people that they can be drowned in a bathtub. When in power, Democrats should use the full power of the federal government including the Justice Department, to destroy this ideology that has destroyed this nation, all within legal means of course. All that has to be done in this regard is enforce the laws that have been established over the last 60 years to protect society from precisely what has happened in the last 28 years. There should be no compromise, no mercy. Destroy the ideology, and destroy it now.
bumpkis
· 1 year ago
Never hire anyone who was pardoned for past crimes, and learn the meaning of the word VETTING....
Older_Wiser
· 1 year ago
There is no Republican Party. They have all devolved into fascists.
ckerst
· 1 year ago
When a repugnacan spews one of their idiot ideas in public I no longer let it pass. I take the time to dispute it with facts. When they argue I tell them the entire nation is no longer interested in hearing about their failed policies. They have to be confronted and pointed out and mocked.
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Don't hope. Don't pray. VOTE.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
and keep making calls and knocking on doors and talking to people...
ronfromnh
· 1 year ago
the reqlly interesting part will be to watch the struggle between the real republicans (goldwater) and the neocons and christers. can one survive without the other two?
therepguy
· 1 year ago
In the end, the new republican party will end up a regional party at best, holding to it right-wing, fundamentalist, christian, fascist ways. If ever they again have national expose ...will be the day they kick the fundamentalist, christian out of the party and return to the ways of Lincoln.
But even then I don't think the American people will trust them to lead!
A really sad ending to a once great party that once held to the ideas of Lincoln!
henrythefifth
· 1 year ago
I hate to say it, but when it comes to deregulation, bankruptcy, and Wall Street, the Dems in the Senate (for sure) and House (barring the Progressives) are just as responsible for the position we're in. What Dems in the Senate stood up to the credit card industry and opposed the bankruptcy bill? Not Schumer or Biden or Dodd. And a lot of House Dems supported that crap bill too--Hoyer, New Dems, Rahm, etc....
Most Senate Dems supported Permanent Normal Trade Relations for China in 2000 (a Clinton initiative) and now they complain about our record deficit w/ China.
Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, Gene Sperling, Voelcker, Austan Goolsbee--all these Wall Streeters are Obama's top economic advisers and they are bad too.
ronfromnh
· 1 year ago
a good start will be to stop using government money to subsidize faux news. have you ever noticed how many federal agencies put public service announcements on faux?
jeffg166
· 1 year ago
I love it!
"It's time for a fresh start. We need new faces and new people to communicate what our party stands for."
HA!
We all know what the Republican party stands for, big intrusive government, endless wars, hate, looting the treasury, lying to a fair thee well, living in denial and general dissembling.
Older_Wiser
· 1 year ago
MSNBC just showed Palin blowing off Bush...way to go Brain Trust, since at least 23-27% of the base you're courting still supports him.
Cheeeez. And they wonder why they're losing.
therepguy
· 1 year ago
The American people need to under stand that there is a fundamentalist christian movement afoot in America that embraces fascist tendencies albeit not all member of this movement fully understand the movement fascist tendencies!
Nevertheless, its time to call out this movement for what it is and for what it stands for ...FASCISM!
greyroadster
· 1 year ago
At the risk of being unpopular here, I truly hope they do this. It is better for every American - and people across the world really - if the Republican party abandons faith-based governing and focuses on the intellectual discourse people like David Brooks and Buckley Jr say the R's have abandoned. Pull that party back towards center and away from extremes and maybe we can have a chance at solving some our problems rather than mindless battles. The party will exist, it is best if it is more rational.
Just imagine the positive impacts of being governed by people who accept scientific facts!
lilyannerose
· 1 year ago
"Seriously, that party must be crushed on November 4th. Badly. Crush them. Show no mercy, they never did."
Love it when you talk dirty!
pcpablo
· 1 year ago
The Gop circular firing squad is most entertaining. I hope the last one standing has a bullet left to swallow!
I'm hopeful that the Republican Party will not re-emerge but I'm not confident that they're smart enough to go away. I could see a small coalition of them re-forming as the Tory Party, a sensible direction for some of them. I could also see the Alaska Separatist Party forming an alliance with the Libertarians and redefining themselves as the NeoWhig Party revisited. Developments like that would force the Democratic Party to re-image itself and this would be a very good time to do exactly that. Visualize: The Democratic Party, the party of the people. The Whig Party, the party of pioneer indolence. The Tory Party, the party of the very privleged and wealthy and rude. Oh, but I'm writing fantasy now, aren't I?
skeptic
· 1 year ago
"It's time for a fresh start. We need new faces and new people to communicate what our party stands for," said Representative Zach Wamp,
They stand for hate, divisiveness, and distortion of the facts. That is not what I would support in their wildest dreams. I have always found Republicans to be a selfish bunch. I know and have known a large number of them. Piggy mentality.
devlzadvocate
· 1 year ago
I'd like to see Republicans holding a "permanent minority".
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
Crush them. Show no mercy, they never did.
Crap! You just want to throw them out of office and let them walk away free for what they did? I say indict, prosecute, convict, imprison. And severe sentence, not these little white collar crime sentences of 15 months, or even 6 weeks. No, minimum 5 years in a high security prison and for worst of them, Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Rice, Rove and that ilk, life sentences, no possiblity of parole even if they live another thousand years.
minik
· 1 year ago
There is a fundamental mistake with the current Republican Party.
It plays only to three groups of people: 1) The christian religious fanatics 2) The Rich 3) Racists
Because of this they don't address the needs of all Americans. They depend on their funding coming primarily from "the rich" which is what makes their party so corrupt. But "the rich" make up only a small percent of America. This means to get that cash they have to alienate everyone else. And then when more people turn out to vote, they don't have a leg to stand on.
The other two groups the Christian Fanatics and the Racists are a bad core audience, primarily because they alienate the rest of the country who might possibly vote republican.
They need to reposition their party as a party that has everyone's interests in mind. Not just these extreme groups.
Something the Republicans don't seem to be able to get a grasp of is that when you run for office you have to reach out to people you don't like. Saying South Virginia is "pro-america" is a great example. This alienates everyone in the north. They need their vote. They are preaching to their choir and shutting out all the people who's votes they need. They fail on even the most basic level of strategy.
Which brings us to the last problem. For them even if they got it right. It would just be a "strategy" and not something they really believe in with their hearts. What they believe in is Racism, Power, Wealth and that everyone who is not like them is going to hell. That's about as un-american a platform as you can get.
The GOP has some big work to do.
Kcunac
· 1 year ago
They still lack one essential ingredient to pull themselves together.
They have to admit they got it wrong.
They have to repudiate the embrace of the Palins, and the Bachmanns, and the lets legislate the end of Terry Schiavo crowd.
Center right, center, or center left, if they want to be a national party they've got to grow up and focus on ideas, not labels, not mud, not manipulation, not Willie Horton, not Ayers and Wright.
I don't think they get that yet.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
i agree. they don't see all that's wrong within their party, and the fractious, extreme elements are still very powerful...it's gonna be awhile... and that's fine with me.
Hello...GOP!!! America is rejecting far right extremism...and you can't hide it behind Ronald Reagan or apple pie or patriotism or nostalgia for the good old days and make it any less reprehensible...
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
I call on the Republican Party to disband, without delay.
CruzBustamove
· 1 year ago
"It's time for a fresh start. We need new faces and new people to communicate what our party stands for," said Representative Zach Wamp, Republican of Tennessee.
What DOES your party stand for, exactly? I mean, besides ignorance, incompetence, corruption, greed, cronyism, criminality, etc., etc., etc.
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It was deliberate. They knew what they were doing from the beginning. Bush was warned that Iraq wasn't a patsy, yet he persisted in telling us it would be a cake walk, that they would greet us in Baghdad with flowers and dancing girls in the streets. We told him thousands would die ... if only, 1.3 million innocent dead Iraqi civilians was our bad as we misjudged Bush's willingness to butcher, slaughter, massacre innocents, women children, old men and old women.
The economists also told him deregulation was handing over the cash to Wall Street criminals with no sanctions, but of course, Bush got his cut. There are trillions and trillions of dollars missing, unaccounted for and you say these are failures.
I say they are deliberate premeditated crimes and deliberate premeditated murder, mass and serial murder.
My work place has become tense. It's becoming nearly impossible not to debate everyone and anyone who claim support for McCain.
"....I don't want the Republican Party simply defeated in November, I want to see it smashed beyond all recognition, in such wriggling, writhing, anguished disarray that it can barely reconstitute itself, so desperate for answers that it looks to Newt Gingrich for visionary guidance, his wisdom and insight providing the perfect cup of hemlock to finish off the conservative movement for good so that it can rot in the salted earth of memory unmissed and unmourned in toxic obscurity."
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2008/1...
they are really freaking out on the right if this is actually going to
court.
These people swear it is true. How could you possibly doubt these real Americans.
talent in the Secret Service nowadays.
country if he does NOT get elected.
That jackass that shot Reagan was just another white face walking down the sidewalk, and I'll put money down that they didn't read the intent because he was one of them. It's the same shit I see when police walk up to a car that's pulled over on the side of the road and the driver is white. They have a different ease. Eveyone knows it, and everyone sees it.
You guard a black politician or president, and you're senses are keener and sharper--if nothing more than the fact you realize the odds are higher he's going to be some asshole's target.
Obama will be fine. The secret service will continue to do its job.
I'm not being racist here, just presenting the scenairo from a different angle.
Every organization possible has done the research on this issue--you can count on that fact!
This is the jist of it. Remember, any one can file a lawsuit. This judge shot down the BS quick-fast.
You need to get about that writing career of yours....lol
writing! This whole birthright thing is bullshit, I know. I had heard
something months ago and this rightwing asshole (a fag, no less, what planet
are they on?) sends out this thing today to his email list and it caught me
off guard. I had NOT heard that a court brief had been filed. God they will
try anything, won't they? I think a sidebar to Obama's success is that many
right wingnuts are now panicking over the fact that the party will be out of
power for some time. They can see the bloodshed going on for Senate and the
House. Oh I wish Noriega here in TX could oust Jubilation T. Cornhole...aka
Senator John Cornyn. Unfortunately we seem all to red in that area here.
Also, never forget Obama is not a liberal, but a moderate, even worse, a corporate moderate.
Anyhow, we're sticking it out here, and this is the one place I can find relief from all the anxieties.
I think they went downhill in the 80's when they brought in Evangelicals. That created this rift in their party that they've always had to do mental gymnastics to maintain.
Excellent post Mark:)
I had a very quiet moment when watching Alan Greenspan admit that his thinking was flawed, and that he was dismayed (all of his colleagues) that the banking system wasn't able to police itself!
Mark, everything in my life has been secured and acquired because I understand the concept of ACCOUNTABILITY! This carries over with respect to being a father and a husband, being the best I can at whatever I do, friendships, accomplishing goals etc. There's always a structure in place, often self-imposed, that allows me to gauge my progress and performance at any point along the way.
I'D like your take (no hurry) on the mindsets of the Alan Greenspans' of the world. Let's give him credit for admitting the mistake, but what are the factors that allows an individual on that level to circumvent the OBVIOUS? And I say "on that level" because I believe the Alan Greenspans' of the world have extraordinary access to the knowledge of the history of the world beyond the norm of the average individual.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6559
Our former R state Senator, Chris Ortloff is in jail awaiting trial(denied bail) for arranging sex with under aged girl via the internet.
He served Northern NY for 20 years and was serving on the Parole Board when this happened. he gets to KEEP HIS PENSION!!!!!!!!!
Karma ~ He pushed for the stronger laws that he will now be tried under!!!!!!
The wealthy envision smaller govenment becuase there are less rebgulations in place that will keep them in check. They pay no taxes! Taxes aren't evil, but they help provide the services we all need such as healthcare, road construction, national park maintenance, and police and fire services at every level of government. We all know this!
The Republicans tickle me. Can you imagine if they were standing in front of the American people, and instead of saying ,"Obama wants to spread your weath around", would bone up and say, "Obama wants to SPREAD THE WEALTH OF THE SUPER RICH AROUND?".
Now for those who think this is socialism: WRONG! It's simply getting the rich to pay their fair share of the taxes.
Except they do want government to pay for their illegal and immoral wars to enrich themselves.
Since when is getting a tax cut spreading the wealth?
These people are completely nuts. And these ignorant morons at these Palin rallies will be the first to collect their social security check, and accept medicaid, and send their kids to use the public schools system. I guess this makes them socialists, AND hypocrits.
If they haven't gather them up and take them to early voting TODAY!
Until they get rid of the Roves and Kristols in the Party there is no future for them.
over
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/25/business/25no...
they are already off to a good start.
BTW, does anyone really believe that Palin would care about "special needs children" if she herself did not have a Down Syndrome child? Does she have a history of this kind of advocacy? Did anyone notice how neatly she folded the issue into "school choice" which is a favorite segregationist technique of racist Rethugs?
But even then I don't think the American people will trust them to lead!
A really sad ending to a once great party that once held to the ideas of Lincoln!
Most Senate Dems supported Permanent Normal Trade Relations for China in 2000 (a Clinton initiative) and now they complain about our record deficit w/ China.
Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, Gene Sperling, Voelcker, Austan Goolsbee--all these Wall Streeters are Obama's top economic advisers and they are bad too.
"It's time for a fresh start. We need new faces and new people to communicate what our party stands for."
HA!
We all know what the Republican party stands for, big intrusive government, endless wars, hate, looting the treasury, lying to a fair thee well, living in denial and general dissembling.
Cheeeez. And they wonder why they're losing.
Nevertheless, its time to call out this movement for what it is and for what it stands for ...FASCISM!
Just imagine the positive impacts of being governed by people who accept scientific facts!
Love it when you talk dirty!
Illustrated end of the GOP
http://pabloonpolitics.com/gop_squash.htm
They stand for hate, divisiveness, and distortion of the facts. That is not what I would support in their wildest dreams. I have always found Republicans to be a selfish bunch. I know and have known a large number of them. Piggy mentality.
Crap! You just want to throw them out of office and let them walk away free for what they did? I say indict, prosecute, convict, imprison. And severe sentence, not these little white collar crime sentences of 15 months, or even 6 weeks. No, minimum 5 years in a high security prison and for worst of them, Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Rice, Rove and that ilk, life sentences, no possiblity of parole even if they live another thousand years.
It plays only to three groups of people:
1) The christian religious fanatics
2) The Rich
3) Racists
Because of this they don't address the needs of all Americans. They depend on their funding coming primarily from "the rich" which is what makes their party so corrupt. But "the rich" make up only a small percent of America. This means to get that cash they have to alienate everyone else. And then when more people turn out to vote, they don't have a leg to stand on.
The other two groups the Christian Fanatics and the Racists are a bad core audience, primarily because they alienate the rest of the country who might possibly vote republican.
They need to reposition their party as a party that has everyone's interests in mind. Not just these extreme groups.
Something the Republicans don't seem to be able to get a grasp of is that when you run for office you have to reach out to people you don't like. Saying South Virginia is "pro-america" is a great example. This alienates everyone in the north. They need their vote. They are preaching to their choir and shutting out all the people who's votes they need. They fail on even the most basic level of strategy.
Which brings us to the last problem. For them even if they got it right. It would just be a "strategy" and not something they really believe in with their hearts. What they believe in is Racism, Power, Wealth and that everyone who is not like them is going to hell. That's about as un-american a platform as you can get.
The GOP has some big work to do.
They have to admit they got it wrong.
They have to repudiate the embrace of the Palins, and the Bachmanns, and the lets legislate the end of Terry Schiavo crowd.
Center right, center, or center left, if they want to be a national party they've got to grow up and focus on ideas, not labels, not mud, not manipulation, not Willie Horton, not Ayers and Wright.
I don't think they get that yet.
Hello...GOP!!! America is rejecting far right extremism...and you can't hide it behind Ronald Reagan or apple pie or patriotism or nostalgia for the good old days and make it any less reprehensible...
What DOES your party stand for, exactly? I mean, besides ignorance, incompetence, corruption, greed, cronyism, criminality, etc., etc., etc.