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AMERICAblog: Americans expect their president to be better than them

  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Just posted this on the last thread....McCain winged this...what does that say about his judgment?

    "This decision is not worthy of a great power. Whatever skills Palin may turn out to have, however fabulous a person she may turn out to be, even if she becomes the Eva Peron of Christianism, McCain

    had no idea when he picked her.

    He winged this. That's the critical, unavoidable, devastating point.

    John McCain has demonstrated with this insane decision that he is unfit to be president of the United States. This was an act of near-criminal negligence. If he can behave this recklessly and impulsively with this decision, the idea of allowing him to become president of the United States is only a smidgen less terrifying than thinking of Palin in that position.

    Whatever few doubts I may once have still had about this election, they are resolved now.

    Obama has to win. The alternative is unthinkable."

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    Andrew Sullivan's thinking doesn't impress me. He has no great love of liberalism or Democrats. He hates the Clintons (as do others here) and only found Obama palatable since the South Carolina primary.

    He finds the GOP fabulous until it isn't.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    The fact still remains, however...what does this say about McCain's judgement....that he winged this?

    The 2nd highest office in the land and he winged it.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    Certainly it contributes to the mounting case against his flawed judgment. At this point, it seems the public is becoming significantly aware of those flaws.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I'm with you. Sullivan is a damned opportunistic leech.
  • Cpeterka · 1 year ago
    ATTN ALL LOG CABIN REPUBLICANS.
    Y O U C A N B E C U R E D !!!!
    Love one another and become a Democrat.

    Or be CURED and stay heterosexual Republicans like Buffy, Bristol, Levi, Trig, Willow, John, Cindy and the rest..
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    Good point. Maybe the HRC can use the $10,000 it committed to the Log Cabin R's to send them to the chuch for the "cure" and have them report back to us.
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    What is with the Log Cabin Republicans? Is it an illustration of the Stockholm Syndrome? I feel the same way about blacks and Latinos in the Republican Party: I just don't see how they can look at themselves in the mirror.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    You know, that wouldn't be a bad idea if someone could start some sort of tongue in cheek 'movement'. It would show the hypocrisy from both sides, Log Cabin's for supporting those that would hate them, and how ridiculous the 'cure' programs are. You know, Palin is apparently the darling of the Log Cabin's, have a former coworker who is one and he thinks she could just walk on water. She'd just as soon dunk his head under water. Go figure...
  • AdmNaismith · 1 year ago
    Remember, 'elite' is just code for educated, jewish, feminist, and/or gay.
  • cambridgemac · 1 year ago
    Don't be silly, John. if Republicans wanted our leaders to be similar to the population, they'd support gun control and birth control - both of which are overhwelmingly supported by Americans.

    They're just fucking with your mind. It's what totalitarians do.

    THEIR troubles can be explained as a consequence of unfortunate events. YOUR mistakes and troubles are a consequence of your defective character. QED. The "Saints" will always be untouchable be the likes of you and me.

    And once they've finished with their Krischun revolution, we will have to kneel to them, too.
  • AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago
    Voting *for* Negative Role Models -- a Republican innovation
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    I don't quite agree. I don't need a President-on-a-Pedistal. I don't even want one. At the same time, I also don't want a President-Confused let alone a Vice-President-Spouting-Holy-Roller-Tongues.
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    I actually what a President who is smart enough to know he is more intelligent than 99% of the population. Because supposedly if you are that smart you should know you are that smart.

    I'm sick of stupid people running this country.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    And you know if McCain is stupid enough to pick Palin, he is stupid enough to give Levi a cabinet position.
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    It's not about a "President-on-a-pedistal", it's about having someone smart enough to make reasoned, balanced decisions on both domestic and foreign policy. And someone who is smart enough to realize that he should surround him/herself with people who can give sound advice that will benefit the whole country, not just themselves and their business partners/interests or a tiny, fringe group of endtimers.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    40% are going to vote for McCain regardless of any scandal or mismanagement from the previous administration. It's our job to make sure only 40% votes for him. By keeping the spot light on McCain and his running mate, this election should go firmly to Obama.
    Naming Palin was a real f**k up for McCain.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    You're right, Karol. There is nothing we can do about that 40%. They are lost... totally lost. We have to concentrate on those 10% who can't make up their minds. The truly intelligent people with capable logic will vote for Obama. There are a few confused, undecideds who make decisions based on emotion. Those people we need to pick up!
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    I think Palin is a plus for us Democrats no matter what John Bush does about her. He fires her, he admits he made a great error in judgment. He keeps her, she will be the gift that keeps giving.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Not only that, 40% will vote for Palin (they won't even consider McCain except as her irrelevant appendage) even if it's revealed that the Palins are The Aristocrats ("and then Todd took Trig's diaper and smeared it all over Sarah's . . . "). For these trogs, NOTHING Palin does is unforgivable.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    "It's our job to make sure only 40% vote for him" Well, I'm doing all I can, but as a last resort, what do you suggest? I don't know exactly how to spot republicans on their way to the voting booth and drag them into the bushes.
  • SouthernYankee · 1 year ago
    Hell I don't want to drink a beer with the president.. Look what happened the last time people were asked that question and what we got stuck with. I want my president to do his job. I want him to be smarter than me and knowledgeable about the world.
  • ikonoklast · 1 year ago
    I wish I could say that most Americans expect their president to be better than them, but I'm not so sure anymore. Idiocracy is now. There is a general brain rot that pervades the nation. Infotainment is king as is Reality TV.

    The fact that Palin hasn't immediately been laughed out of the VP slot just amazes me. But everybody including the MSM and the GOP party is keeping up this pretense that somebody like Palin is legit. When I hear discussion of Palin's qualifications where average Americans are being interviewed, I hear them talk about how she's a mother with kids or that she's a good organizer. Many of these people aren't even concerned with asking any questions about Palin's qualifications. They talk about how they like her, identify with her, think that she is one of them, and that is all the qualifications in their mind that they need.

    The elitist truth is that there are a whole lot of stupid Americans who lack the sophistication and the judgement to understand the difference between liking someone and thinking that someone is qualified for a government position. They have no clue about the difference between being qualified to be a small town mayor and being next in line to be executive head of the US governement.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    I think most, not all, people so see the distinction in the qualifications you think they don't see. I think most people who find her experiences comparable to their own would ask, "Am I qualified?" and most would say "No" and therefore not vote for HER. However, they may still like McCain (don't ask me why) and that vote will outweigh the negatives of Palin.
  • noob9876 · 1 year ago
    Experiences in home life? Maybe. From a Governmental perspective? Not a chance. How would being a Mayor and a state Governor be justified as "comparable" to the population? It doesn't, thus your viewpoint is flawed.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    the comparison was to hunting and "getting your hands dirty" not government.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I've heard some say Palin is qualified because she goes hunting, and isn't afraid to get her hands dirty? WTF?

    Some say she is beautiful.

    These people think its American Idol. Scary, indeed, but its the reality.

    Bill Maher has said it best when he said we are getting the kind of leaders we deserve.
  • SouthernYankee · 1 year ago
    Boy your right. I wrote on another blog that people need to stop and think about voting for a Palin. You need to peel the onion back and really take a look. Just because you can organize a family doesn't mean you can organize a country. To compare her home organizational skill to Obama's community service skills are as different as night and day. Yes she was a mayor of a small town. Obama worked with community organizations of faith based I willing to bet that had a whole lot more people. The republican party is a party of hate. The hate Obama for one reason and one reason only because he is smarter than McCain. McCain knows it and so does the republican party.
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    Well it may be a "pedestal" but I at least want someone with a degree in law. Anyone who has been to law school has had at least two semesters of Constitutional Law. Why? Because it is the very foundation of all of our laws. We are a nation of laws, written by the people (well until this century). If that 21 year old eventually works his or her way up to running for the Presidency, I want them to have had a real course with real exams in Constitutional Law. The alternative is Chimpy McFlightsuit with his cabal of Gonzo beans and Fat Turdblossoms saying things like "it's only a goddamned piece of paper." Senator Obama would not even be a name we would have heard of were it not for our Constitution and our Supreme Courts of the past. Civil rights in this nation would NEVER have happened without them. The courts forced the hands of local governments over time and Senator Obama stands proud where he is today because of our COURTS, not our legislators.

    Pedestal? Maybe. But I believe in our founding documents.
  • martha · 1 year ago
    Excellent, excellent point.
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    Thanks, Martha. Maybe I am just an old fart but as a child, JFK made me feel
    that I wanted to aspire to something great, something important, so I became
    a teacher. Since Nixon, no President has made me feel this way. Perhaps
    Clinton a little bit. The rest have been total assholes. Just paving the
    paths for their rich white straight buddies to fuck the nation for quarterly
    rates of return on stocks. A President like Obama could fire up the nation
    again to greatness. McSame will just set fires.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    A hybrid of that idea, I would like to see a President who has an education in law, with a respect for the law and a logical, discerning mind and the communication skills to convey ideas and inspire the nation.
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    Barack Obama, for me, is Bobby Kennedy with a very deep tan. He inspires me
    very much. I am too old to achieve any more greatness than touching the
    future through my students. That has been very rewarding some 30 years. But
    he makes me want to give even more.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Ha!

    It looks like Cindy is saying it.
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    Cindy has a ventiloquist behind her....all those facelifts left her
    jaw frozen shut.
  • Upland_Oddball · 1 year ago
    Please make sure it is a law degree from a noted collage of law. What good is a law degree from Liberty or Regent law school? The Bush administration is full of such crappy paper. Those diplomas are not even fit for a bird cage!
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    Well as a Yale man, I don't want to invoke the wrath of the blogsphere, but
    yes, Obama was first in his class at Harvard Law School and that is good
    enough for me. In fact, they create good supreme court judges and public
    defenders at Harvard. At Yale they just turn out bad presidents and evil
    sharks who spend their careers fucking over the lower classes. Yale has been
    and always will be NUMBER TWO and it cannot stand it. It suffers from a
    dreadful inferiority complex. Although the gay sex was excellent there in
    the lockerrooms at the field house.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Democrats want a President who is better than them.

    Republicans want a President who can drink them under the table.

    Republicans want a President who can be a better hypocrite, so they don't feel so guilty.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Sarah Palin is still lying by omission. She is still talking about putting the state's corporate jet on E-Bay without telling everyone it didn't sell on E-Bay. That action is just like her - a big political gimmick.
  • dad · 1 year ago
    they had better be.
  • falloch · 1 year ago
    When I was a kid in the 1960s, if you asked my class of 10-year-olds 'What do you want to be when you grow up?', chances are girls would say nurses or teachers (with the occasional exception like me, who wanted to be a train conductor, a career goal I never fulfilled), while boys either wanted to astronauts, doctors, or president. Has there been any recent polls amongst US 12-16 year olds about what they want to be when they grow up? And do any of them answer they want to be president?
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    I hope you're right but I honestly doubt it.

    I just don't think we're a society that respects intellectual and cultural achievement anymore--in fact, we mock it as "elitist."

    I was thinking the other day of Pablo Casals playing for the Kennedys at the White House. Can you imagine that happening with Bush in the White House?

    Or think about how our parents forced us to listen to classical music or take art appreciation or learn one of the romance languages as kids. Not simply to get a better job or make money but to be sophisticated adults.

    It's just not that America anymore. Now, it's a country full of rednecks and cheap hustlers who are resentful of anybody who isn't cut from the same cloth.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    You have this dead on. There is no interest in the arts. If you need millions for a new high school stadium, great. If you need money for new musical instruments for the high school band==get real. If you need a gym full of new wrestling mats--just say how many. If you want to take the high school to an art gallery or maybe see the symphony better start saving your pennies. I wonder how these people balance the need for brains and common sense against internal combustion engines, airplanes, hydro electric stations, oil drilling equipment. Did these things just appear on earth because God dropped them in place==course that could be exactly what these creationists believe. Well good, go back to living in a tee-pee or in a cave. Get your food with a spear with a sharp rock stuck in the end of it. Personally, i like to know how things work, i like to try to build something new in my shop. I love to listen to the classical music channel and read a nice book everyday. Palin and her ilk haven't got the brain power so the demean the concept as well as anyone who appreciates anything more than the greatest book of fiction in the world the Bible.
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    Lynchie, quit dissing the cavemen and aboriginals, they are our forefathers too... and they could take care of themselves... the current crop of flat-earthers would starve to death without the benefit of modern technology.
  • BostonJoe · 1 year ago
    And you aren't smart enough to realize why regular people think you're Elitists.Give me the rednecks and hustlers I can converse with them.
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    So what does it say about the American voter?

    1. Yes, their expectations and standards are LOW, when it comes to their leaders.

    2. They can never learn from past mistakes - they voted for Bush because they wanted to have a beer with him, not because of his intelligence, and good policies. Never mind, that he was an oil man. Al Gore was "stiff" and he sighed at the debates ' never mind, that he wanted to continue the successful policies of Bill Clinton. They wanted a breath of fresh air, that they were delusional enough to think that Bush brought, and now got an awful stench coming from the present WH.

    3. Right now, they can see the havoc caused by Bush/Cheney policies, and yet
    they seem to WANT to continue these policies by supporting a man, who has voted 90 percent of the time with Bush. The term idiots come to mind, but that seems to understate the whole situation. Why are these people gluttons for punishment? They were wrong about voting for Bush/Cheney TWICE. They were WRONG about supporting Bush and Cheney's bloody war, and they still cannot get it? If they are unhappy with the way the country is heading, why vote to continue the downward slide?

    4. When will they realize that doing the same thing, again, and again, will NOT
    change the end result?

    5.They made the wrong judgment when it came to voting for Bush vs. Gore,
    and if they think that McCain/Palin will bring back the jobs, the badly needed healthcare in the country, better education, no unnecessary wars, more respect in world, more unity in this fractured country, help for the majority, and not only the wealthy, among other things, then they will be horribly WRONG again, and show bad judgment once more.
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    I do, and I know you do, John, and I know everyone on this blog does, but I wish there were some figures out there to back us up. Someone today just quoted a headline from a British paper of four years ago on Bush's reelection, and the figure is not exact but it's 59 million something: Can 59,284,l86 people be this stupid? Glad to see Obama today in Indiana telling the crowd, "They must think we're stupid", because if he continues to point out that, yes, they do think we're stupid, maybe America will wake up.
  • grueningmorse · 1 year ago
    Senator Roman Hruska (R- Nebraska) once famously defended unsuccessful Nixon Supreme Court nominee Harold Carswell. While acknowledging Carswell's mediocrity, Hruska said there were lots of mediocre lawyers, judges, and people who deserved to be represented on the Supreme Court too.

    Republicans have been promoting this anti-elitism thing a very long time.

    Oh, and Carswell was a white supremacist in his earlier years and had some Larry Craig-like "bathroom behavior" later on in life after his nomination was rejected by the Senate.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    This stupid goon think brought us the Decider, the tongue-tied, lip-moving occasional reader with whom everyone once wanted to share a beer.
    But stupid thoughts need a good firm stupid base upon which to build.
    Pet media's doing this now by conflating teevee ratings with candidate support...Perhaps corp media believes no one would actually watch their product in an attempt to be informed so naturally massive upticks in viewership must reflect fanatical followings for individuals and not popular interest in the general subject.
  • rja4429 · 1 year ago
    Has anyone asked our current President what he wants to be when he grows up? Chances are he wouldn't know. Probably wouldn't even understand the question. Besides, he can be anything his daddy and the oil companies pay for. McBush, of course, is in the same boat, tho he's got his little missy to pay for it all. It takes no brains at all to be President. Money rules! And money buys the presidency!
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Funny that they didn't mention Sarah's Academic Record.

    Five schools in six years--only one of which could seriously be called a college--to end up with a bachelor's in communications?

    She and McCain should have a dumb-off.
  • ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago
    I'd love to have Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin all take the SAT test.

    You KNOW that Obama & Biden's scores would be AT LEAST twice as high as the dumb-fuck Republicans' scores!
  • gwpriester · 1 year ago
    Better maybe. But not smarter.
    That's why they picked the self admitted C student.
  • mf_roe · 1 year ago
    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." ---July 26, 1920, H.L. Mencken in The Evening Sun.
  • Mike_G · 1 year ago
    Stupidity, mediocrity and willful ignorance accompanied by blinding arrogance as an ideology. Thanks, Repigs.
  • mf_roe · 1 year ago
    "Not by accident, you may be sure, do the Christian Scriptures make the father of knowledge a serpent--slimy, sneaking and abominable."
    -- H. L. Mencken
  • MNUSA · 1 year ago
    Frankly I'd like to have a President that doesn't embarrass our country. The idiot king doesn't appeal to me.
  • Joneses · 1 year ago
    McCain/Palin to the American public "Look were are dumb just like you" vote for me and I'll set you free.

    Obama/Biden to the American public "education should be enhanced to all of the American public" vote for me and I'' set you free.
  • FauxReal · 1 year ago
    I used to think that was true but 2 terms of Bush proved that wrong. Then Obama made me believe again. I'm back to being a nonbeliever.

    I don't understand why someone wants a president who's like them. And they voted that way in the past 2 elections and look what happened to us. But I think they're just dumb enough to do it again. The idiots are taking over the country. Maybe the rest of us will have to seek sanctuary in Alaska.
  • ydthin · 1 year ago
    I think that is true of republicans; republicans want a president who pretends to be better than at least liberals. I think that the whole teen preggo thing is why there has been notable silence from some female republican hacks re: Sarah Palin. The whole thing with republican women is that they pretend to be 'morally upright' about sexuality and they either use birth control of squrrel off to the doctor for private abortions. I think Palin has broken some rules here because she ruined the whole "republican women are virgins/ liberal women are sluts" thing. They are supposed to be better than us. They may 'falter' but it's okay as long as they 'feel bad about it' and ask forgiveness, like Ann Coulter claims she does. Paul Begala once made the point that in their eyes, "they really are better people". Well, that "better people" crap just flew right out the window. It certainly is interesting to watch.