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AMERICAblog: An (unexpected and unplanned) report on the health care system

  • Helen Rainier · 9 months ago
    Joe, Best wishes for a very speedy recovery. I'm sure Carlos will take good care of you and thank goodness you have Petey there to protect from the subversive balloons! Take care of yourself and don't try to over do until get the "OK" from the doctors.
  • A guy · 9 months ago
    First off, obviously, best wishes for a continued speedy recovery. Any kind of surgery pretty much stinks, as does any kind of hospital, so I'm glad you're feeling better.

    Having spent a fair amount of time in emergency rooms at really quite respectable hospitals, I have to offer this thought: If we had nationalized healthcare and legalized drugs, just think how much better our emergency rooms would be.
  • lex · 9 months ago
    Best wishes Joe for a fast and painless recovery!I'm happy to hear it wasn't one of Cheney's boys slipping you a radiation cocktail.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 9 months ago
    We're as happy as a slobbering puppy you're back, sweetie!

    And have several cocktails in you before you open any envelopes marked "Care[no hyphen]First". . .
  • Joneses · 9 months ago
    Glad to see you back! Here wishing you well!

    From friends and family that do not have health coverage, what's wrong with all Americans having coverage? Something I do not for the life of me don't understand. And will never understand.

    Me personally since I can remember have always had Kaiser. My father thru his job LAUSD (Los Angeles), and now my husband (Los Angeles Probation Department). So in essence, I always had coverage. I've also had dental coverage thru Blue Shield, etc. and still have coverage thru my husband's dental program. He's retired now and therefore the medical and dental coverage is free (they don't take anything out of his retirment money). I do have to pay $5.00 co-pay. Medications are $7.00 (prescribed).

    I think it's shameful that a lot of Americans are unisured and have no medical/dental coverage. When I was working, I dealt with Medi-Cal, Medicare, Medicaid, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Aetna, Kaiser Permenente Hospital, and other insurance health carriers. And from what I experienced in dealing with them it was somewhat surprising.

    Medical facilities high cost for charging for everything.

    I was 14 when I had appendicitis. My father thought I was making an excuse for not going to school because my stomach was hurting. So he took me over to my aunt who was a school nurse. She didn't believe me neither. She gave a two alkiselors(ok the spelling is wrong) and told me to lay down. I promptly got worse and my father and my aunt realized that I was really sick. They rushed me to Kaiser on Sunset Blvd. and of course the doctors testing for everything and by night fall they prepared for surgery.

    I was told later that it was the doctor's first surgery. That the appendix exploded in his hands after he pulled it out. The young doctor came in the see me later that night, either I was still high but what a vision I saw, a fine looking man. LOL
  • mcjoan · 9 months ago
    I'm so glad you feel good enough to write this! I should have written to John to tell him not to let you eat any hospital food! You and Petey make the best of your recuperation.

    Rest up!
  • anastasjoy · 9 months ago
    Welcome back and may you have a speedy recovery, Joe. I'm really surprised that after all the years we've been increasing our attention to nutrition now that thngs haven't changed in hospitals. I broke my ankle in 1987, had to have pins and plates put in and was in for almost a week, during which I felt perfectly fine and ate NOTHING until some friends brought me some chocolate chip cookies on the fith day. The food was ghastly. One day i ordered 'fresh fruit" figuring "How can they screw that up?" By lying! It was canned peaches in heavy syrup. I remember hobbling over to the sink to wash off the syrup. Then they started putting mcDonald's in hospitals. YUCK!
  • debbiet · 9 months ago
    Bless you, Carlos, and Petey!!!
  • artmofo · 9 months ago
    Joe,

    Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

    I know exactly what you mean by the ER. It indeed is a trip.

    Back in my bike messenger days I wound up in the GW ER a few times, and on at least one of those occasions I waited on a gurney in the hallway for hours, it seemed, until they could be bothered with a nondying patient like me. That time, there was another guy in the hallway -- he was a student from Galludet who looked like he had been beaten within an inch of his life. I kept asking the docs and nurses why they weren't doing anything for the guy. And I never got a good answer.

    Keep your chin up, your incision uninfected, and you'll be fit as a fiddle in no time!
  • icebergslim · 9 months ago
    Speedy recovery. I had emergency surgery and it takes you for a loop. You are correct about hospital food the worst. And I worked everyday to get out of that hospital bed so I could go home. That was my mission. I am glad you had close friends and your partner to take care of you. Petey understands. When I came home from surgery, Hobbes and Snoop never left my side. You would think I was gone forever. But no, there they were up in the bed with me as I was trying to surf the net. Dogs are truly a human's best friend.
  • Mark217 · 9 months ago
    Joe, I am so glad you are on the mend. And I am thankful you have your partner and a community of loved ones Including your dog) around you. Best wishes!
  • Asterix · 9 months ago
    Best wishes for quick recovery, Joe.

    Now why did the mention of an appendectomy bring to mind the film "Ensign Pulver" and marbles...?
  • jean nolan · 9 months ago
    I had the same experience with the food after a hysterectomy. They gave me a beef broth that was so salty I took two spoonfuls and gat up with my iv to get my wash basin.

    If they all know this, why do it?

    Glad to hear your back home and on the mend.
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 9 months ago
    LIE down; LAY an egg.
    not sure why this befuddles so many native speakers.
  • Angela · 9 months ago
    Hey Joe, Welcome back. Glad you came through so well. I haven't always heard such good things about our hospitals. Missed you and wish you a speedy recovery. Take it easy for a little while! You earned it.
  • Spence in New Mex · 9 months ago
    Joe!

    Glad you're feeling better. Well documented and I can't believe that your mouth was too small!

    Thinking of you in Santa Fe!
  • MommaKat · 9 months ago
    We're as glad as Petey, if not more so, that you're home and on the mend. The hospital food bit of your story makes me laugh. Didn't you know that's the Great Lie? Everyone with initials after their name must pretend that the food is incredibly healthy and curative. All complaints of nausea are to be met with the standard, "Have you eaten?" followed promptly by, "Perhaps you're not eating, drinking, or walking enough."

    Despite the wisdom of encouraging people to walk, drink plenty of water, and eat healthy, I found that most of those are successfully accomplished once home. Glad you're there and not still in the hospital.
  • AdmNaismith · 9 months ago
    I had the same whirlwind experience with Appendicitis.

    Glad they figured it out right away and that you are all right.
  • Scott · 9 months ago
    Paul Lin??? I totally loved Uncle Arthur.
  • phillydem · 9 months ago
    I hope you're not expecting the bills to arrive within a few weeks. If your experience is anything like my uncle's, it will be at least 3 months before you find out what the insurer paid and what your co-pay is. Then it will more weeks before you get a bill from whoever the "provider" of the service was to whom you owe the co-pay amount. Watch out for the double billing of physician services, too. Even though once the doctors agree to a reimbursement rate from the insurer, they might send you a bill for the difference. Make sure to call your insurer to verify if you should pay the bill.

    Then there's the "we denied your claim" letters, that you might not even know "you" submitted.

    Don't forget the HIPAA authorizations either or no one (except probably your parents or siblings), not even Carlos, will be able to get any medical information about you.
  • SCLiberal · 9 months ago
    Joe, get an itemized bill from the hospital. 80% of hospital bills are wrong and those mistakes can total 25% of the cost.
  • hn^3 · 9 months ago
    "logarithmically better. I feel ten times better tonight ... and about one hundred times better". I think you mean exponentially better, except that at some point you would then feel way better than anyone has in the entire history of the universe (you sure you're not on morphine?).
  • nickiuk · 9 months ago
    As i said in a previous comment, i'm newish here, but welcome back and i can imagine the paperwork you are going to get, I know i'm lucky living in the UK, (the NHS rocks on that front)
  • ahermit · 9 months ago
    You get bills for something like that?!

    Weird...
  • jcgraham77 · 9 months ago
    Joe,
    Just had the same thing done--posted comment on it in another thread but then saw this one so sorry for the duplication. I suffered the same symptoms after eating Thai food for dinner...by 330 am I thought there was some hybrid monster parasite in my stomach trying to gnaw its way out. Its the only way to describe it. Couldn't walk or anything. Got the ER--no one else in there. The receptionist was horrible and the nurse was on break--being the drama queen I am and in the pain I was I just laid down on the floor in front of their desk when they told me it was an hour wait. They then took me in. After running my vitals (high fever, abdominal pain, nausea/vomitting, spiked white blood count) they just couldn't figure it out. I was crying and yelling in pain and they told me to watch my mouth...I was astonished. The Dr. ran a CT on me and told me nothing was wrong--I was just gassy and he would give me pain killers and I needed to go home. At this point it was 5 am and I called a Dr. friend to advise me--he told me to tell them to admit me, transfer me, or I was going to sue. I got admitted. 12 hours later a nurse was looking at my chart as I lay there pumped full of dilaudid and screaming like I was in labor. She wanted to do a CT scan and I told her already had one. She took one look at it and said that my appendix was rupturing. Emergency surgery. I had been awake from the surgery for a few hours and billing called my room wanting to know how I was paying what my insurance wouldn't cover. I was apalled. Had a bill at home the next day. It was the worst experience of my life.
  • freeleeper · 9 months ago
    well, i'm happy you're on your way to a full recovery, but let me ask: did you get an itemized bill yet? did your insurance (if any)pay most or all of it? and were you actually billed for those ice chips? i've heard some crazy things about hospital bills and...
  • fl79tr · 9 months ago
    Man I'm glad to hear you're recovering well. Take care.
  • Aaron · 9 months ago
    Joe- As someone who worked as a health insurance claims examiner (now very happily a nurse and out of the business BTW)...be SURE you get an itemized bill from the hospital. They aNOTORIOUS for errors in billing. If you see ANY charges showing implants of any kind, demand a copy of the original invoice from the hospital. You and Blue Cross together should NEVER pay more than 150% of the hospital's ORIGINAL cost for the implants. I would also advise you, if you have any questions at all about what you were billed for certain things to call the hospital and find out EXACTLY what they are and why you were billed for them. If you have any "convenience items" like slippers, or kleenex that the hospital bills for, you will probably find that they are non covered items under your plan. Also, if Blue Cross mentions anything about "reasonable and customary charges", you should know that the big database that all that info comes from is made by a company called Ingenix, which is OWNED by United Health Care (convenient, huh?), and that they recently settled a class action suit for $350 million because much of that information was proved to be WRONG, and insureds (and docs) had been duped out of too much money for YEARS. It's important to remember that YOU pay your premium, and Blue Cross owes you a debt for your business that it pays by processing your claims. ALL of your claims whould be processed within 30 days of receipt by Blue Cross (most if not all state laws require this). Insurance companies COUNT on the majority of their insureds being mostly if not completely ignorant about what their plan covers or does not cover. Most people won't argue enough to get things done. If you have to, go up the chain of command, and demand reviews by successively higher ranks of the company if you feel that they have not processed your claim according to your benefits. That schedule of benefits constitutes a binding legal contract with you, and legally they should provide you with a satisfactory explanation of WHY things are not covered rather than just telling you they are not. If it so happens that I could help with any questions about insurance....email me....ajmalone00@yahoo.com