AMERICAblog: Another doctor weighs in on McCain's health
bill__free
· 1 year ago
Is it just me, or was the question about nuclear arms the gotcha question? I woke up today ready to read all the different takes on that issue. When the question was asked, Palin talked for a few seconds, then had her "deer in the headlight" moment and switched to a totally different topic. I have read C&L and Americanblog, but I really didn't see anything major about the nuclear issue and Palin, (i.e. how she didn't know what she was talking about, the hesitation and how she switched to a totally different topic. Maybe it is just me, but I thought it was the defining point (among others) in the debate . I expected to see different pundits taking about this.
I only watch the debate once, so maybe i didn't take what she said properly. Let me know if I am in error.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
She either ignored the question, or she didn't understand the question.
The question was basically when do you think using nuclear arms is permissable, and she switched it to talking about other countries getting nuclear arms.
Then, again, she either ignored or didn't understand the achilles heel question.
She's dumb or arrogant: Take your pick.
bill__free
· 1 year ago
I need to watch the debate again, because what I thought I noticed was her start to answer, a brain freeze for a split second, and then changed the subject. It was her pause and then how she switch the subject.
Styve
· 1 year ago
Good catch! Who is to say that she didn't have a cochlear implant (sp?), and Schmidt and Co. were communicating answers?! I would think that after the '04 "bump on the back" of Bush incident, they would not want to take the risk of a transmitter on her person.
bill__free
· 1 year ago
I watched it again & now I remember what caught my eye. It was her verbiage and struggling with the question about nuclear weapons and how fast & fluent she spoke at the end when she knew what she wanted to say, "Can we talk about Afghanistan real quick, also, though?".
Watch it and see if it is just me.
Styve
· 1 year ago
That seems to have been the juvenile strategery she was fed by Schoenemann and N. Wallace.
bill__free
· 1 year ago
I wasn't talking about the strategy, but rather how her demeanor changed when she really knew what she had to say. Her statement and then how she delivered that one line "Can we talk about Afghanistan real quick, also, though?".
I watched it again & now I remember what caught my eye. It was her verbiage and struggling with the question about nuclear weapons and how fast & fluent she spoke at the end when she knew what she wanted to say, "Can we talk about Afghanistan real quick, also, though?".
Thanks for doing all this, John. This is an issue that needs to be pressed. Let's hope others join your ranks, too.
Has Biden released his records? Perhaps that would be a way to get the issue in the news again....
Styve
· 1 year ago
I just called the Obama/O'Biden (sic) campaign HQ and passed on your recommendation, along with a rec. that they monitor Americablog.com.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
This could be why McCain really has no idea what he'd do as president, other than to continue Bush policies.
Maybe he knows he doesn't have much time, but wants to get his name on that list of presidents before he goes.
anneeeliz
· 1 year ago
Country first!
michaelt
· 1 year ago
when you brought up mccain's 'confuson' on stage earlier this week, i said it was silly.
i can see i was wrong about that now.
glad i got you for ballast.
and thanks for putting up with my dumbass!
marblex
· 1 year ago
IF the election is permitted by the globalists who run the world to occur, and that, at this moment, is a very big IF, the results are in!
McCain 51.2% popular vote, wins by 3 electoral votes.
Within weeks of his inauguration, DIES of his TERMINAL METASTATIC MELANOMA
The rube know nothing Princess Mooseturd is sworn is as Preznit -- dominionist rules are put into place, the constitution is suspended. Martial law probably will be imposed, if it hasn't already. The USA is dissolved and joined with Mexico and Canada to form the NAU The dollar is displaced by the Amero
KingCranky
· 1 year ago
McCain's mental state is starting to get worrisome, apparently he can't remember that, hours before blasting the Bailout on "Morning Joe", he voted FOR the same bailout bill in the Senate, the same bailout bill he claims is "putting us on the brink of economic disaster"
Is this yet another "gaffe", which are becoming more commonplace, seemingly on a daily basis, or is something more worrisome about McCain's mental faculties going on here?
Until this gaffe, I didn't worry about McCain's mental state, as everybody misspeaks, but this incident is just too glaring to ignore or gloss over with polite behavior.
To be fully informed, the voters should be made aware if it's actually McCain calling the shots of his own campaign, or his inner circle of advisers.
Put the issue of access to the nuclear launch codes before the voters, and there's no doubt which team wins on November 4, and that's NOT the team which brought us the allegation that "lipstick on a pig" is suddenly a sexist slogan when Obama used it, but a perfectly acceptable, charming colloquialism when used by McCain.
A whiney, flip-flopping hothead with possible mental issues is not who should be in charge of our nuclear arsenal, and neither should his running mate if she believes we're actually living in the "end times", and would use those nuclear missiles to hasten the Apocalypse/Armageddon.
JFK felt he had to emphasize the primacy of his secular authority over his religious allegiance, Palin should do the same.
Access to our nuclear launch codes trumps ALL political, social and religious niceties & politeness.
CrustyDem
· 1 year ago
While melanoma is frightening, it doesn't belong in a discussion next to pancreatic cancer (most people don't last 6 months with pancreatic, 8 years would be amazing) and is not nearly as dangerous as several other cancers, including (but not limited to) glioblastoma, stomach cancer, lung cancer, liver cancer, etc. Additionally, we have no evidence that McCain's cancer was metastatic (and significant evidence it was not, initial path reports, etc), he may just have high likelihood of melanoma. My grandmother spent too much time in the sun following retirement and has had several small melanomas removed over the last 25 years, no metastases, no effect on lifespan, no brain tumors.
I'm not excusing the lack of information, his medical records, and Biden's, Palin's, and Obama's, should be completely public. I'd love to see McCain get an MRI to demonstrate he doesn't have any tumors. I'd really like to see him undergo a full neuropsychiatric screening to demonstrate he's got a solid memory and is dementia free (at the very least an MMSE). But this comment by RK is just wrong, most of McCain's obvious issues are consistent with radiation damage to facial nerves and it is not likely that McCain has metastatic melanoma.
John Aravosis
· 1 year ago
Sorry, but here is what Altman, the expert on these issues, had to say in the NYT after McCain let his select group of reporters read through his medical records, given them a whopping 10 seconds a page to read them (as an aside, when McCain refuses to release his records, at the age of 72, after having 4 bouts of very serious cancer, and then showing symptoms of confusion, erratic behavior, and facial spams, we have no choice but to speculate - unless you'd like to trust your 401k to President Palin):
But the 1,173 pages of medical records did provide some important details about his cancer in 2000: Two pathologists at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology who examined the melanoma specimen from Mr. McCain's left temple in 2000 suggested that there were two melanomas on his temple, not one, as his doctors had said publicly at the time. Specifically, the Armed Forces Institute pathology report said that details about the lesion were ''highly suggestive of a metastasis of malignant melanoma and may represent a satellite metastasis,'' with satellite meaning one melanoma had spread to create another.
The Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale said it ''cannot comment'' on another institution's medical opinion, and stood by its diagnosis and treatment of Mr. McCain's melanoma. Mr. McCain's melanoma is classified as Stage IIA, his campaign has said.
But two experts in the field who reviewed the pathology report released on Friday said it was unclear whether the melanoma on Mr. McCain's temple had metastasized from another, or whether there was one new primary melanoma.
If the spread was through the nearby melanoma, that could suggest a greater risk, said Dr. Lynn M. Schuchter, a melanoma expert at the University of Pennsylvania, and Dr. Mohammed Kashani-Sabet, director of the Melanoma Center at the University of California, San Francisco.
Styve
· 1 year ago
John,
It seems you are having good luck tracking down a range of medical opinions...bravo! The next debate involves audience questions and questions submitted on the internet. I hope that you can persuade some of your medical experts/sources to hammer out a very tight, documented request for the release of McCain's medical records. Something with a timeline or two, prognoses of survival rates for different scenarios/cancers, etc.
For such a question to be taken seriously, it should come from the medical community, I would think. Thanks! S
JamesR
· 1 year ago
Um, a satellite tumor is so close to being a metastasis - is this a difference we want to bet the country on? Initial pathology reports often do not show a metastasis, and the fact that the later full reports have been HIDDEN sure say to me that there is something there they don't want folk to see. When was the last time someone HID something GOOD? Not to mention politicians.
Here are some links I am reposting to this thread for those who may not have seen them the first time and / or are new to this topic here:
Did you see this video of McCain today? He really does look ten years older suddenly . . . I just can't get over how elderly he appears. Something has happened, or has changed. Thanks for staying on top of this.
I have not seen it but a fellow writer wrote me and said there is a full page ad in today's New York Times signed by 2,768 physicians asking for McCain to releases his full medical records. The focus of the specialists are in oncology, dermatology and melanoma. Has anyone else seen this ad?
All Comments
I only watch the debate once, so maybe i didn't take what she said properly. Let me know if I am in error.
The question was basically when do you think using nuclear arms is permissable, and she switched it to talking about other countries getting nuclear arms.
Then, again, she either ignored or didn't understand the achilles heel question.
She's dumb or arrogant: Take your pick.
Watch it and see if it is just me.
The question and her answer is at 54:46 to 55:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89FbCPzAsRA
and struggling with the question about nuclear weapons and how fast & fluent
she spoke at the end when she knew what she wanted to say, "Can we talk
about Afghanistan real quick, also, though?".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89FbCPzAsRA
54:46 the question was asked to 55:45
Watch it and see if it is just me.
Has Biden released his records? Perhaps that would be a way to get the issue in the news again....
Maybe he knows he doesn't have much time, but wants to get his name on that list of presidents before he goes.
i can see i was wrong about that now.
glad i got you for ballast.
and thanks for putting up with my dumbass!
McCain 51.2% popular vote, wins by 3 electoral votes.
Within weeks of his inauguration, DIES of his TERMINAL METASTATIC MELANOMA
The rube know nothing Princess Mooseturd is sworn is as Preznit -- dominionist rules are put into place, the constitution is suspended. Martial law probably will be imposed, if it hasn't already.
The USA is dissolved and joined with Mexico and Canada to form the NAU
The dollar is displaced by the Amero
Is this yet another "gaffe", which are becoming more commonplace, seemingly on a daily basis, or is something more worrisome about McCain's mental faculties going on here?
Until this gaffe, I didn't worry about McCain's mental state, as everybody misspeaks, but this incident is just too glaring to ignore or gloss over with polite behavior.
To be fully informed, the voters should be made aware if it's actually McCain calling the shots of his own campaign, or his inner circle of advisers.
Put the issue of access to the nuclear launch codes before the voters, and there's no doubt which team wins on November 4, and that's NOT the team which brought us the allegation that "lipstick on a pig" is suddenly a sexist slogan when Obama used it, but a perfectly acceptable, charming colloquialism when used by McCain.
A whiney, flip-flopping hothead with possible mental issues is not who should be in charge of our nuclear arsenal, and neither should his running mate if she believes we're actually living in the "end times", and would use those nuclear missiles to hasten the Apocalypse/Armageddon.
JFK felt he had to emphasize the primacy of his secular authority over his religious allegiance, Palin should do the same.
Access to our nuclear launch codes trumps ALL political, social and religious niceties & politeness.
I'm not excusing the lack of information, his medical records, and Biden's, Palin's, and Obama's, should be completely public. I'd love to see McCain get an MRI to demonstrate he doesn't have any tumors. I'd really like to see him undergo a full neuropsychiatric screening to demonstrate he's got a solid memory and is dementia free (at the very least an MMSE). But this comment by RK is just wrong, most of McCain's obvious issues are consistent with radiation damage to facial nerves and it is not likely that McCain has metastatic melanoma.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=...
But the 1,173 pages of medical records did provide some important details about his cancer in 2000: Two pathologists at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology who examined the melanoma specimen from Mr. McCain's left temple in 2000 suggested that there were two melanomas on his temple, not one, as his doctors had said publicly at the time. Specifically, the Armed Forces Institute pathology report said that details about the lesion were ''highly suggestive of a metastasis of malignant melanoma and may represent a satellite metastasis,'' with satellite meaning one melanoma had spread to create another.
The Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale said it ''cannot comment'' on another institution's medical opinion, and stood by its diagnosis and treatment of Mr. McCain's melanoma. Mr. McCain's melanoma is classified as Stage IIA, his campaign has said.
But two experts in the field who reviewed the pathology report released on Friday said it was unclear whether the melanoma on Mr. McCain's temple had metastasized from another, or whether there was one new primary melanoma.
If the spread was through the nearby melanoma, that could suggest a greater risk, said Dr. Lynn M. Schuchter, a melanoma expert at the University of Pennsylvania, and Dr. Mohammed Kashani-Sabet, director of the Melanoma Center at the University of California, San Francisco.
It seems you are having good luck tracking down a range of medical opinions...bravo! The next debate involves audience questions and questions submitted on the internet. I hope that you can persuade some of your medical experts/sources to hammer out a very tight, documented request for the release of McCain's medical records. Something with a timeline or two, prognoses of survival rates for different scenarios/cancers, etc.
For such a question to be taken seriously, it should come from the medical community, I would think. Thanks! S
Here are some links I am reposting to this thread for those who may not have seen them the first time and / or are new to this topic here:
A very long but interesting article written by an actual melanoma survivor regarding McCain's oddly poor choice of lesion prevention here: http://www.counterpunch.org/mckenna07102008.html
A bit of background and links to and about the NYT story here: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/NYT_Few_mention_M...
This one is interesting, provoked by the plethora of science-blind posts everywhere, but I don't think it takes into account the satellite lesion data fully and thus miscategorizes the cancer stage: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/09/john_...
- with a direct link to armchair diagnosis of his ptosis (sorry for the rhyme) http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=386
And, as posted here before, a call to and from Doctors with lots of current info: http://onlyoneheartbeataway.com/document.html
Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r8hhShMyZw