AMERICAblog: AP's Ron Fournier delivers for his almost boss, John McCain
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
If Obama picks Biden, according to this polesmokin' McCain sycophant Fournier, it proves he's "green," lacks confidence, and reinforces all his weaknesses. But Lil' Davy Brooks, in yesterday's NYT, insisted that Obama had an imperative to pick Biden. To prove that he could play with the big boys, show he had confidence to prove himself to the Washington Establishment, and Biden would complement his strengths. Brooks concluded that Obama would be stupid if he picked anybody but Biden. It short: whatever Obama does, he sucks, according to the MSM.
JMOHR
· 1 year ago
What can we do to make our displeasure felt at AP? The house issue and ads proved very effective against McCain's attempt to distort Obama's image and humble beginnings. It is now time to wage a similar effort against those in the press corps who have put aside nonpartisan status yet attempt to play that role while participating in sub rosa campaign activities. I would review RNC tactics to go after him.
bunnyjump
· 1 year ago
OT I tuned in Coast to Coast last night on WLSam Chicago....I know a wackjob tinfoil hat program on a right wingnut station, but coast to coast can be good for some late night ghost stories.
The lead story was Obama isn't a citizen....(turned it off and didn't hear the story). But the point is is the media is saturating the airwaves with this crap. The Obama campaign has got to go for McCain's jugular.
devis1
· 1 year ago
I started listening after the lunatic who filed the lawsuit was gone. I was a little relieved to hear some people calling in and saying it was crazy but of course they were in the minority. Some lesser known female wingnut host was on my local station tonight spewing the same garbage on her show. Right wing radio is a major, major, major problem
ozzinny
· 1 year ago
Fournier's hack piece reads like it was written for publication in a Republican house organ. It is partisan commentary of the weakest kind, but definitely not journalism. Whoever claims to be his editor isn't doing their job.
pilgrim_billy99
· 1 year ago
What a wanker.
slappymagoo
· 1 year ago
You just know this transparent shill had a similar opinion piece written for any and every likely Obama veep contender...including a vague piece in case Obama chose some unknown quantity. And every piece was written under the conceit of how this pick shows Obama's "main flaw," with the flaw to be determined based on Obama's pick. Biden means he's not as much of an outsider as he claims to be. Bayh would mean he's not as serious about getting out of Iraq as he claimed. Clinton would've meant he easily caves to pressure from within his own party. And the beat goes on...
Someone should ask this dopey jackass who HE thought Obama would've picked. He won't have an answer. Because he doesn't want one, he doesn't need one. He was chosen to write about why Obama's pick - HOWEVER he/she was - was bad for Obama. And he delivered. Good lickspittle. Here's a hambone.
Bobby
· 1 year ago
Can someone tell me what PUMAS is? Something to do with Hillary?
This is driving me crazy.
OleHippieChick
· 1 year ago
Party Unity My Ass
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
OleHippieChick is right about one of the groups, the other one (the PAC or the money raising arm) is for People Working Together means Action (yeah right...)
LisaLV711
· 1 year ago
PUMA ("People United Means Action" or "Party Unity My Ass") is a political action committee in the United States that is protesting the Democratic Party leadership and the presumptive nomination of Sen. Barack Obama as the Democratic candidate for President in the 2008 presidential election. PUMA began as an effort of supporters of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton who believe that Clinton should be the Democratic nominee. According to PUMA, "We are protesting the 2008 Presidential election because we refuse to support a nominee who was selected by the leadership rather than elected by the voters."
It's a pitiful site. You can go to Wikipedia to find out more if you like, but it's pitiful.
OleHippieChick
· 1 year ago
You can't spell "analysis" without "anal."
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
When McCain loses this election, I wonder if Ron Fournier will still deliver his slippers...
Butch1
· 1 year ago
These facts need to be mentioned every time Fournier makes a comment about Obama or Biden.
paul94611
· 1 year ago
I thought "AP" stood for "American Pravda". Silly me.
middlegirl
· 1 year ago
AP Absolutely Partisan AP A-holes Personified
SarainKC
· 1 year ago
I watched CN this morning from 7:15-8:30 Central and they played McCain's counter Biden ad 4 times in it's entirety. Four freaking times. We have got a lot of work to do to overcome the media's collective assault on Obama. They are circling the wagon to protect the status quo and keep the extra billions coming thanks to dergulation. No way are they going to give that up.
SarainKC
· 1 year ago
oops- CNN, I mean.
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
They are shitting their collective pants right now that Obama/Biden could take this in a big enough landslide that Diebolding won't work. Pass that fucking popcorn!
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
If McCain picks Willard, there will be plenty of grist for the mill: Willard and McCain HATE each other and there is a ton of televised sniping between them from the debates during the GOP primary that the Obama campaign can use to craft a dozen of these ads.
threshingmachine
· 1 year ago
"And he talks too much.
"On the same day he announced his second bid for the presidency, Biden found himself explaining why he had described Obama as 'clean.'"
I guess he'll fit right in with Bush and McCain who make gaffes every day.
"And there's the 2007 ABC interview in which Biden said he would stand by an earlier statement that Obama was not ready to serve as president."
I've seen the McCain ad. Obama should come out with an ad that lists every negative thing said about McCain by his primary opponents, and by the many republicans who have been sharply critical of him.
SarainKC
· 1 year ago
Here's the deal, though. It looks like Mittens will ge the VP nod on the right and to use their logic, it must mean that he is compensating for McCain's weakness. Let's think about that. Mittens is a self made man, (albiet by screwing over hundreds of loyal employees to serve his shareholders), while McCain is a kept man. Keep the meme up that McCain went from a controlled POW to Cindy's Beotch, and now he wants to be the official tool for the PNAC war machine. For all his bluster, McCain just does what he's told. Sad.
ron071
· 1 year ago
SarainKC offers a logical explanation for McSame which is backed up by the facts as they have evolved.
Further to his point on Republican goals and tactics, he is right on target again. Thusly, the advice is good and the Republicans must be fought with the strongest tactics which will defeat them.
threshingmachine
· 1 year ago
Here's everything Obama would need for a response to Mittens for VP:
And in looking at the history of McCain's attacks on Romney, we see that he is quite vicious. Then when the victim cries foul, he pokes fun of the complainer as wimpy. That's what we're going to see now in the general ...so, how do you handle that?
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
I hope you guys are right and I am wrong. But the choice of Biden gives me the gut feeling that Obama's real, secret campaign slogan is "Same ol', Same ol'!" Oh, Biden may even come down a tiny bit to the left of center, but he's still and establishment, old line Democrat no matter how you cut it. He is not "Change you can believe in!" Obama has done very, very little to believe in him or hope that he isn't just another Clinton that is a Republican dressed in Democrat's clothing ... like Pelosi, Reid, Feinstein, and so many other ... no, make that all the Damnocrats. Obama didn't even bother to throw us progressives a tiny bone, something that would make us continue to believe. Gut feeling is all too familar, that of getting a finger in the face.
ron071
· 1 year ago
vkobaya: You are seeking extreme change which, as we've learned long ago, is not going to happen. I urge your moderation and work for some significant change which will be a world better than what we've suffered under Bush/Cheney/Rove/Gonzo./Rummy/Wolfie/ McSame, etc....
WANT MORE PAIN????????VOTE McSAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
Oh, I know where the real world is. Unless Obama is certain to win by a massive, massive landslide that guarantees he cannot be cheated by Republican election fraud, I will vote for him ... or if he is a dead certain loser. But, I have my standards and forgive me for holding my nose when I vote for Obama. The reality is that no serious Black politician can afford to be anything but moderate or they will be rapidly Swiftboated, condemned and persecuted. Witness what happened to Cynthia McKinney and how Maxine Waters is regularly vilified as one of the most corrupt members of Congress. But Obama won our support by his campaign slogan of "Change You Can Believe In." It hurts, hurts very bad to be so betrayed.
Let's put it this way. I love to read fantasy stories like McKiernan, Tolkien, Charles deLint, Hambly, etc. But if I ever saw an elf, dwarf, fairy or troll, I would find the closest straight jacket and complain bitterly that it wasn't tight enough. Obama is as good as we are going to get except for McKinney, Nader, Kucinich, who will never be president. But, also recall that every single piece of liberal, progressive legislation passed by Congress in the last 40 years orginated with Nader. I suggest a few more of you share my fantasies. Maybe if we can elect Obama now, in another 100-150 years, we can elect a Black president who can be a true progressive. As for Obama, he has to be harshly critical of his own people, saying things that he would never even dare accuse Hispanics of.
Some day! Over the rainbow! Sigh!
LisaLV711
· 1 year ago
Well, change won't happen overnight and cannot be achieved by Senators Obama and Biden alone. We all have to be willing to put forth some effort to make sure there is some accountability. In essence, we can't sit back and let things happen to us anymore. You see where that has gotten us. For instance, start by attending a City Council or County Commissioner meeting and let your voice be heard. This is where change can begin.
jr
· 1 year ago
Ron Fournier gets a volume discount at manhunt.com
ron071
· 1 year ago
The Fournier story is just one more example of the pollution now infecting our media sources.
lilysmom
· 1 year ago
Ron Fournier for Secretary of the Fluffer in Chief
DENVER - The candidate of change went with the status quo.
In picking Sen. Joe Biden to be his running mate, Barack Obama sought to shore up his weakness - inexperience in office and on foreign policy - rather than underscore his strength as a new-generation candidate defying political conventions.
Can anyone tell me how this is anything but the most partisan writing. This is completely unfit to be published as news. The standards for journalism are that such stuff except in the opinion sections, must be objective. This piece of crap violates every code of ethics taught in real journalism schools. Okay, admittedly, there is the possibility that ethical journalism schools no longer exist. Bush has probably snatched every decent journalism professor and sent them to Guantanamo, if not Abu Gherib, Syria, Libya or even the damn secret prison ships.
LisaLV711
· 1 year ago
Ron Fournier must have written McWeak's health care plan because it says about as much as his article regarding Biden; it's full of $#@! and makes no sense! Dude is a Hater. I often wondered what kind of person wrote for the Enquirer and the Globe.
All Comments
I tuned in Coast to Coast last night on WLSam Chicago....I know a wackjob tinfoil hat program on a right wingnut station, but coast to coast can be good for some late night ghost stories.
The lead story was Obama isn't a citizen....(turned it off and didn't hear the story).
But the point is is the media is saturating the airwaves with this crap. The Obama campaign has got to go for McCain's jugular.
Someone should ask this dopey jackass who HE thought Obama would've picked. He won't have an answer. Because he doesn't want one, he doesn't need one. He was chosen to write about why Obama's pick - HOWEVER he/she was - was bad for Obama. And he delivered. Good lickspittle. Here's a hambone.
This is driving me crazy.
It's a pitiful site. You can go to Wikipedia to find out more if you like, but it's pitiful.
AP A-holes Personified
"On the same day he announced his second bid for the presidency, Biden found himself explaining why he had described Obama as 'clean.'"
I guess he'll fit right in with Bush and McCain who make gaffes every day.
"And there's the 2007 ABC interview in which Biden said he would stand by an earlier statement that Obama was not ready to serve as president."
I've seen the McCain ad. Obama should come out with an ad that lists every negative thing said about McCain by his primary opponents, and by the many republicans who have been sharply critical of him.
Further to his point on Republican goals and tactics, he is right on target again. Thusly, the advice is good and the Republicans must be fought with the strongest tactics which will defeat them.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/22/romney...
And in looking at the history of McCain's attacks on Romney, we see that he is quite vicious. Then when the victim cries foul, he pokes fun of the complainer as wimpy. That's what we're going to see now in the general ...so, how do you handle that?
WANT MORE PAIN????????VOTE McSAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's put it this way. I love to read fantasy stories like McKiernan, Tolkien, Charles deLint, Hambly, etc. But if I ever saw an elf, dwarf, fairy or troll, I would find the closest straight jacket and complain bitterly that it wasn't tight enough. Obama is as good as we are going to get except for McKinney, Nader, Kucinich, who will never be president. But, also recall that every single piece of liberal, progressive legislation passed by Congress in the last 40 years orginated with Nader. I suggest a few more of you share my fantasies. Maybe if we can elect Obama now, in another 100-150 years, we can elect a Black president who can be a true progressive. As for Obama, he has to be harshly critical of his own people, saying things that he would never even dare accuse Hispanics of.
Some day! Over the rainbow! Sigh!
By RON FOURNIER (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
August 23, 2008 4:02 AM EDT
http://my.earthlink.net/article/pol?guid=200808...
DENVER - The candidate of change went with the status quo.
In picking Sen. Joe Biden to be his running mate, Barack Obama sought to shore up his weakness - inexperience in office and on foreign policy - rather than underscore his strength as a new-generation candidate defying political conventions.
Can anyone tell me how this is anything but the most partisan writing. This is completely unfit to be published as news. The standards for journalism are that such stuff except in the opinion sections, must be objective. This piece of crap violates every code of ethics taught in real journalism schools. Okay, admittedly, there is the possibility that ethical journalism schools no longer exist. Bush has probably snatched every decent journalism professor and sent them to Guantanamo, if not Abu Gherib, Syria, Libya or even the damn secret prison ships.