DISQUS

Ginger_FL · 1 year ago

Holy Sh*t !!
I didn't realize there were THAT many Supers left to declare !!

Run up the Banner !!
It's time for an ACTION Alert !!!!

STOP Hillbots Maddness !!!!

Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood) · 1 year ago

Less than 2 fucking weeks. You can wait that long and then it will be fucking over. 3 fucking primaries. Cool your jets then everyone has voted... God have just a little patience.

tbhull · 1 year ago

Cowardice perhaps, politics and payoff probably. At this point ideas mean little and "What is in it for me?" dictates. Relax, deals are bing cut. Ambassadorships, etc...

Ginger_FL · 1 year ago

While Hillbot burns Rome, Congressional canadates aren't getting any money !!!!!
We need those house and senate seats so Hillbot can go F*CK OFF!

Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood) · 1 year ago

It is a shame you know nothing about how the process works!

Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood) · 1 year ago

Jesus, Arianna and netroots should lay off the caffiene.

Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago

I love it when a plan comes together.

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

B-b-but! NO!! This is a terroristic short-circuiting of the process, which promises ALL of Hillary's millions upons millions of supporters will be heard at the ballot-box, even the ones still not counted! We must wait for that Puerto Rican landslide to finally convince the Supers that HRC is invicible against McCain!

Savage8862 · 1 year ago

It is my understanding that the superdelegates do not have to make up their mind until the convention. I may be wrong and I am sure someone here will be oh so happy to point that out...but the point is, to declare war on superdelegates to force them to go on record to support Obama is only going to force Hillary to continue to fight-thus dragging this thing out until the convention. I would much rather have private meetings set up between the DNC and both camps to come to help Hillary to decide to drop out. All out war will only succeed in putting McCain in the White House and destroying what is left of the constitution and the Supreme Court.

Sage24 · 1 year ago

Quite a long list here. a big bunch of wimps, who cannot make up their minds, especially when the party's chances of winning get slimmer, because of queen Hillary's delusions, and ugly tantrums. Obama needs time to get his campaign started, and she is, deliberately, standing in his way.
Hillary is an embarrassment and a disappointment to men and women.

sherifffruitfly · 1 year ago

It would be useful to know which of them are up for re-election, and when.

Ninong · 1 year ago

Some of these people are up for reelection this year and that's exactly why they can't commit yet. Are you really asking a white candidate in the Deep South to make a choice between a black candidate and a white candidate when doing so will offend half their supporters? Do you realize how racially polarized elections are in the South? These people will commit to Obama but only after his nomination is a lock and they can then say that they are supporting the nominee of the Democratic party.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

OK.

Now we're talking.

Scottsdalian · 1 year ago

What the fuck is Lieberman doing on the list of Dem Superdelegates????? Fer crissake, he might be the repub VP nominee.

katymine · 1 year ago

Have to check but I suspect that Terry Goddard (AZ) is supporting Obama.... do not think he would cross the Gov and loose her support when he runs for Gov in 2010.... nope that one is in the Obama column

Scottsdalian · 1 year ago

OOOOps.....sorry SAM Lieberman of Nevada. My bad.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Could be wrong, but it looks like a disproportionate number of these people from West of the Mississippi, which has been Obama's strongest region. WTF?

Zorba · 1 year ago

I got a call this evening from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee asking for money. I told the caller that I wasn't giving a dime to any Democratic organization or any individual Democrat except Obama until the uncommitted superdelegates finally did the right thing and declared for Obama.

LeeBurl · 1 year ago

My message to these delegates would be to get off the fence and vote for someone. If it's Sen. Clinton, then so be it. Just make your vote known.

ga73 · 1 year ago

Do you really want William "Cash in Freezer" Jefferson to endorse Obama? Clinton can have that one. The list also includes people like Jimmy Carter and Al Gore who are almost certainly not going to endorse Clinton.

Indigo · 1 year ago

That's a mighty long list. Why do we have primaries if they are just a veil while the superdeligates cut deals in the back room? I don't like the look of all that. It's a player's list. Now I really am concerned that John Dean could hand the nomination to Hillary. A development like that would change many things.

jamieFLA · 1 year ago

While I stand with you John, in extreme frustration with the superdels at this point, I would encourage extreme caution and propriety with this proposed action.

The last thing we want to do, is to behave like the frothing Hillary fringe and start making threatening and irresponsible threats and accusations.

I would encourage a reasoned and calm approach.

Speaking for myself only - and no, I'm not Armando!

GO-BAMA!

Gideonse · 1 year ago

You're right. I wrote a very polite email to Rep. Susan Davis, my congresswoman, asking her to please state her support for the winner of the primaries, who is Sen. Obama: "Please do this now so that this ugly fight can end immediately and we can start the work of defeating John McCain and his Bush-ist policies in November." I think the rank-and-file -- concerned, activist Democrats like us -- should pressure the supers with Obaman class and charm. No need to lower ourselves to Clintonian anger.

jamieFLA · 1 year ago

ummm - I s'pose all threats are "threatening".

;-)

MNUSA · 1 year ago

When does the Democratic Party plan to dispense with "super-delegates"? This is not democracy when the will of the voters can be trumped.

lauren1959 · 1 year ago

Write to the committed ones too. These people are supposed to care what happens to the Democratic party. Threats aren't necessary, but logical arguments (and lots of them) may get them to do what they are already inclined to do...

jr · 1 year ago

Cowardly superdelegates are Santa McCain's little elves

rmichels · 1 year ago

I'd like to second Lauren's point from a few minutes ago. The voices that we need to hear most urgently right now are those of supers who have already endorsed Clinton. Many of them did so early on and have stayed in the Clinton camp out of loyalty until the process is completed. Many of these folks are NOT supportive of Hillary's latest tactics re: Michigan and Florida. And these are the people who can, by marching out of her camp, effectively shut Clinton down. For the good of the party and our chances in November, she needs to be shut down. I'd be especially interested in seeing strong female supers who care more for the country than for Clinton step up and say "enough is enough."

Ninong · 1 year ago

All of the DNC members should be asked to commit no later than June 10. That should lock it up for Obama so that the members facing tough reelection battles can then come out for Obama and say that they are going along with the choice of the Democratic party. Do we really want to push a Democratic senator in a Deep South state who is currently facing a very tough reelection battle to come out for either of these candidates now? Do you realize just how racially polarized elections are in the Deep South? Republicans in my neck of the woods are lucky to get 1% of the black vote but white Democrats depend on the votes of both white and black voters. A white female senator in a very Deep South state who declares now for either Obama or Clinton just pisses off half of her suporters and she will need all of them in November if we want to hold onto this seat. It will be much easier for her to support "the nominee of the Democratic party." Let's show a little common sense here. And, as someone else already pointed out, we really don't want William Jefferson's endorsement.

cjfb · 1 year ago

Governor John Lynch of New Hampshire. His wife was co-chair of Clinton's New Hampshire campaign. Interesting that he is a holdout. I wonder what's going on there.

dkohns · 1 year ago

It might behoove you to do a bit of due diligence before tarring members of Congress as cowards. I haven't gone through your entire list, but in at least one case - that of Rep. Mike Honda (CA) - the member is precluded by party rule from endorsing during primary season, given his role as DNC vice chair.

Others (e.g. freshman Nancy Boyda of Kansas) are Democrats in very conservative districts whose pre-convention endorsement might actually imperil their chances for re election. In such cases, what you're advocating is, effectively, calling for there to be fewer Ds in Congress. Nonsensical.

Others (e.g. Speaker Pelosi and Reps Clyburn and Emanuel...) are doing a lot of work behind the scenes to put an end to this process; work that is much more useful than anything a token endorsement could achieve.

This is a perfect example of how some holier-than-thou netroots types misuse their power, self righteously pontificating without the benefit of facts.

nuneutralobserver2008 · 1 year ago

I think a lot of those superdelegates have dedicated their careers to progressive and Democratic causes -- it's inappropriate to call them cowards.

But it is irrelevant. At the risk of being banned, I must still offer my educated guess that Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee.

I've talked to lots of die-hard Democrats in the last couple of weeks and the majority of people I talk to (in Virginia) think that Obama is an empty suit and can not beat McCain.

I am convinced that the super delegates will reach this conclusion and swing their votes to Hillary Clinton at the convention.

It is well within the power of the superdelegates to tilt the nomination to the candidate that has the best chance of beating McCain. In fact, it is the purpose of the superdelegates.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Won't happen.

They're getting a reminder of Clinton-style drama right now.

Not to mention the fact that it appears the majority of the undecideds seem to be from West of the Mississippi--Obama's strongest region and an area where most local pols are downright scared of having Hillary at the top of the ticket..

Add to that, Hillary's plan to send busloads of people up to the DNC meeting next week to threaten the members--who happen to be a big chunk of undecided Supers--and the fact that they can remember when Bill had the White House and lost Congress, the Senate and Governorships for the Dems, and I can't imagine them supporting Hillary.

Finally, not sure who you're talking to in Virginia, but the latest poll has Obama cleaning McCain's clock in your state.

Busboy · 1 year ago

As kind of an "outside observor"; I would say that Obama has lost his momentum. That which started to deteriorate after Penn.

tbhull · 1 year ago

You are full of shit. Obama will destroy senile McCain, that is McCain can stay alive until November.

tbhull · 1 year ago

that is if...

Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago

-3164 and counting down.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Ah, maybe, but he's still polling better nationally than McCrazy and outpolling Clinton versus McCrazy.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pr...

If this is Obama's lowest ebb, he should be fine.

(Nobody seems to have noticed that McCrazy does not seem to be getting much traction, even though he has the Repub field cleared out and Obama's taking a beating every day from the Crazy Woman.)