AMERICAblog: At Clinton HQ, they're making a list... checking it twice.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Just read that article.
It's brutal.
Hillary is done.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
John Kerry is currently at the top of the hate list (a top Clinton supporter says Kerry is now "dead" to the Clintons).
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LOL.
I'm sure Kerry is shaking in his boots over that.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Well, as a southern working class woman, she hates me anyway (but I knew that from the start).
mr_ed
· 1 year ago
How Nixonian!
shanobama
· 1 year ago
Hillary has run her campaign EXACTLY the way Bush ran the invasion of Iraq.
When we successfully entered Bagdad, all the offers of help, from the EU and others, were rebuffed because they did not 'get on the bus' during the wind up to war. Bush told them to ef' off. Bet he now wishes he had been more inclusive at that point in history. I do.
Hillary=Quagmire
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Shanobama,
Hillary has run her campaign EXACTLY the way Bush ran the invasion of Iraq.
I was thinking that too, but about her healthcare proposal. She said we needed to elect a leader that can implement healthcare reform. I was like, DON'T GO THERE! LOL
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
OK, Joe: One quibble.
Why mention that the guy and his wife are Scientologists?
Most religions look pretty wacky when described in black and white, and it's not like the Scientologists are working for the Repubs, like the Moonies and the Fundies are.
That's how I judge a religion's political stance, anyway. If they're not trying to rewrite the laws I have to live under, I got no problem with them.
Belinda
· 1 year ago
I've had it with the corrupt Clintons. When Slick Willy defiled the White House by performing adulterous oral sex on a young intern, we looked the other way. When Shillary tried to steam roll her disastrous socialized medical plan onto a resisting nation, we let it slide. Now we've gotten to the point where Billary is openly creating racist negative ads trying to score points with bigots: http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/why-is-obama... .
Not to be outdone by Billary's Bosnia lies, her philandering husband Bill goes on to guest-host the Rush Limbaugh program and diss as many fellow Democrats as he can: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily... The Clintons have crossed the line too many times.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
You may have missed it - almost everyone missed it - but Bill Clinton was on Rush Limbaugh's show the day of the Texas primary. You can hear the radio here. Limbaugh himself was sick that day, apparently, but he had already urged Republicans to cross over to keep Hillary Clinton in the race. Bill saw an opening - and went there.
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Wow! I had no idea.
They'll do anything, won't they?
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Wow! Obama just slipped and leaked his general election strategy at a rally today in PA.
Obama: McCain = Old Politics. Nice! ;-)
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
While Beltway pundits and others in the national press have alleged that Barack Obama is clearly and obviously out of touch with most not-so-bitter Pennsylvanians, leading newspapers in the state, who ought to know better, seem to disagree.
In recent days Obama has picked up the endorsements of every major paper in the state and many smaller ones.
Papers endorsing Obama include: The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Philadelphia Daily News, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Allentown Morning Call, The Patriot News of Harrisburg, the Scranton Times-Tribune and Bucks County Courier.
Hillary Clinton's endorsements have been far fewer, such as the Daily Pennsylvanian -- the University of Pennsylvania paper, which drew a lot of coverage yesterday. The daily in Wilkes-Barre said it is not endorsing at all.
Barack Obama's campaign is up with a new statewide ad in Pennsylvania on the subject of Hillary Clinton's health care plan. It's not a positive spot; it takes on the plan's individual mandates.
Clinton accused Obama of "attacking the solution."
The Clinton campaign just held a conference call to respond to the claims in the ad....
An Obama aide said that the campaign decided to run the health care ad because a pro-Clinton 527, the American Legacy Project, is running an ad that goes after Obama for failing to cover every American. Ah hah, but the Clinton campaign notes that the Obama health care ad says that it's Clinton who is distorting Obama's health care plan, not a 527. To which the Obama campaign responds that the 527 is funded with money from Clinton donors.
Here's another ad the Obama campaign has decided to run.
It is amazing that the NYT article about the Clintons and their vindictive ways, remind me of the Bush administration. We know how nasty they get, when someone goes against them too.
I am glad that people have the strength to disregard the Clintons and endorse Obama. No one owes the Clintons anything. This is a democratic country, and you can vote or endorse anyone you want, for whatever reason. Not because you "owe" someone a favor. This is Clinton BS. It looks like Chelsea is learning fast the Clinton ways of doing politics. People I know around the world have noticed that Hillary is not the person we all thought she was. She has turned into an arrogant, nasty shrew, who does not care one iota for the party or the voters. She does not care who she destroys in her lust for power, and it must be killing her, that someone like Obama, not only runs a better campaign, but seems to be leading her in every way. I hope this ends soon, and that the Clintons can take their heavy baggage, and go back to gloomy town.
NEW YORK While Beltway pundits and others in the national press have alleged that Sen. Barack Obama is clearly out of touch with most Pennsylvanians, leading newspapers in the state seem to disagree.
In recent days he has picked up the endorsements of the vast majority of these papers in Pennsylvania.
Papers endorsing Obama include: The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Philadelphia Daily News, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Allentown Morning Call, The Patriot News of Harrisburg, the Scranton Times-Tribune and Bucks County Courier.
Hillary Clinton's endorsements have been far fewer, such as the Daily Pennsylvanian -- the University of Pennsylvania paper -- though more may appear on Sunday. The daily in Wilkes-Barre said it is not endorsing at all.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
So threats are now the operating standard for Clinton? Quite honestly I will bet there is also blackmail of some type going on.
jr
· 1 year ago
old McCarthyite horse hillary needs to be sent to the glue factory
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
An Obama aide said that the campaign decided to run the health care ad because a pro-Clinton 527, the American Legacy Project, is running an ad that goes after Obama for failing to cover every American. Ah hah, but the Clinton campaign notes that the Obama health care ad says that it's Clinton who is distorting Obama's health care plan, not a 527. To which the Obama campaign responds that the 527 is funded with money from Clinton donors.
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True.
Hillary's donors have all maxed out, so they're starting 527s to get around the fundraising limits.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Hillary has Scientologists working for her??? This explains alot...
howie
· 1 year ago
After this is all over and Hillary loses the bid to run for president she will be going back to congress. Must make the people of New York real proud and happy to know that she will most likely be shuffeled off to a corner and given no ability to help the state she was elected to represent.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
I am glad that people have the strength to disregard the Clintons and endorse Obama. No one owes the Clintons anything. This is a democratic country, and you can vote or endorse anyone you want, for whatever reason.
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I'm not sure where they got the idea that loyalty could transfer from the husband to the wife anyway.
Do they think they're a monarchy?
(And, by the way, Kerry went out of his way to fly with Bubba when he was under the Monica shadow and nobody wanted to be around him. How did Hillary thank him? By putting the shiv in and condemning Kerry when he misspoke in that comment about "winding up in Iraq" during the midterms.)
dad
· 1 year ago
this must end.
Democratis leaders must lead.
NOW!
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Queen Hillaria: These evil treacherous vipers, which I nursed at my own imperial breast, shall live and die in the powerful shadow of my eternal malific force! They shall experience poxed and gruesome nether regions dedicated to venereal pleasures! My malediction thunders across the infinite wastelands of my empire! Let it, o Goddesses, be uttered with the force of my ancestral mother Hecate!!!
Coming Undone
· 1 year ago
The Vindictive strategy, let's see how far that gets her. Hillary is running as a Republican to win the Democratic nomination. I think the Democrats that are supporting Hillary have to go back to the reason that they became Democrats in the first place, because it we really wanted this type of politics then there is no difference between the two parties. Bush was put into office because Republicans wanted to be loyal to the Bush family and were scared to go against them, now it seems that Clinton wants to get the nomination the same way because Democrats should be loyal to the Clinton's and should not go against them.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
.....Its Senator Clinton.. NOT Billary.... get it? , or just blinded by the light?
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Well, they are running as a tag team, and she's certainly running on his record.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Listen, when they even try to bully his former cabinet secretaries into supporting her and call it "disloyalty" to him when they don't, it goes far beyond the usual spousal support role.
Coming Undone
· 1 year ago
kipper,
Bill Clinton is a former president, as far as I know Michelle is not, to have a former president smearing and attacking another Democrat and the front runner is just beyond belief, he is not just another spouse
They are running as a team and she is running on his record because if you take away Bill exactly what has Hillary done on her own that qualifies her to become president
kipper
· 1 year ago
yall arent feeling the love... come on, Saturday night.... feel it .. come on.. I have faith in you all!
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
In a few hours I'll be doing what Hillary was doing last weekend--shots and beer.
that should help the old love quotient.
kipper
· 1 year ago
there we go! don't be haters!.... You can be all the proud to be a Senator Obama Supporter and not bash Senator Clinton.... Kum Bah Yah!
Paul_In_SF
· 1 year ago
Hillary just can't figure out why politics "as usual" isn't working. I wonder if she has ever sat down and listened to any of Obama's speeches? To coin a campaign slogan: "It's the people, stupid". Or, "Read my lips. No more party hacks!"
Coming Undone
· 1 year ago
Kipper, are you saying the same things on Hillary sites and sending emails to Hillary to ask her and her supporters not to bash Obama?
"The world revolves around Hillary and Bill." - J.S.
But Obama now has the stronger gravitational pull. The Clinton orbit has swayed off track, and now they are left desperately floating in space, between their two worlds, possibly lost forever.
KarenMrsLloydRichards: :-))) More please.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
Man, I've learned more in one week from this site than I have in the past year from everywhere else. Little Greta is in bed (literally) with a top fund raiser to the Dem party. You cat's that blog this stuff amaze me.
And now, to show my gratitude--a paypal donation.
dances_with_beagles
· 1 year ago
I can see Hillary as a permanent talking head on Fox News aka Dick Morris when this is all over with.
Despite a pre-emptive warning from Robert Bauer, a campaign finance expert and lawyer for Mr. Obama’s campaign, the organizers of the American Leadership Project have plunged ahead.
The group is filled with people who have ties to the Clintons: Roger Salazar, who worked in the press operation of the Clinton White House and is a political consultant in California, and Paul Rivera, another former Clinton White House staff member and senior political adviser for Senator John Kerry’s presidential campaign in 2004 who worked on Mrs. Clinton’s Senate campaign in 2000.
Jay Eisenhofer, a lawyer in New York who raised at least $100,000 for Mrs. Clinton, making him a “Hillraiser,” gave $50,000 to the group. Richard Ziman, another Hillraiser and Los Angeles real estate magnate, contributed $15,000, and William Titelman, a former Pennsylvania lobbyist and longtime Clinton fund-raiser who gave enough to spend a night in the Lincoln Bedroom, contributed $10,000 and has helped the group raise money.
Sen. Clinton will work as hard for Sen. Obama as her husband did for Al Gore in 2000....not too hard at all. But that's not my biggest fear. The Clintons appear SO self -absorbed that she may, in fact, try to, behind the scenes, derail much of what Sen , Obama wants to do for our country if he wins the office. Does anyone here believe she can be THAT spiteful? Stuart & Robert Wyman-Cahall Las Vegas, NV 89142
donotmakemecomedownthere
· 1 year ago
Will Hillary be "bitter" enough to run in '08 as an Independent, thereby electing McCain?
kipper
· 1 year ago
that was AL Gores decision in '00.. and it cost him Arkansas...
howdydostu
· 1 year ago
Respectfully, Kipper, The Lewinski scandal really put VP Gore between a rock and a hard place. It is arguable aout how best to have used Bill Clinton in that campaign. As a progreesive, I'm well aware that the Lewinski affair was nothing more than a land-deal-gone-bad years earlier. And every time I see the Clintons I have a hard time for forgiving him for that conduct because when you know that the right wing nutters are going to look for ANYTHING to bring you down...well, he shoulda kept his pants on for a few years, and not throw our agenda out the window. Thats really why George Bush is our president today.
Sociopathic behavior, maybe?
Rose3
· 1 year ago
BONNIE AND CLYDE: I was once a big fan of the Clintons. I stood by them throughout the Clinton administrations. But from the beginning of this campaign, they have seemed like the "Bonnie and Clyde" of politics to me. They're willingness to destroy the democratic party for their own political ambitions -- even in the face of certain defeat -- is chilling. Their willingness to completely disown former friends who don't worship them 100% is ... words sort of fail. Sociopathic? I think it fits.
This list is from "Profile of a Sociopath". Is is a pretty good list of sociopathic indicators.
Glibness/Superficial Charm Manipulative and Conning Grandiose Sense of Self Pathological Lying Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt Shallow Emotions Incapacity for Love Need for Stimulation Callousness/Lack of Empathy Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency Irresponsibility/Unreliability Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them Authoritarian Secretive Paranoid Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired Conventional appearance Goal of enslavement of their victim(s) Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love) Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim Incapable of real human attachment to another Unable to feel remorse or guilt Narcissism, grandiosity (self-importance not based on achievments) May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
kipper
· 1 year ago
Thanks for the chats folks.. didnt mean to get all preachy... we just really need to keep our eyes on the prize as Dems/libs/progressives.. and the Clintons are not the enemy... the GOP is. Everyone have a great night
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Oh! Persona non grata. I know that story! For every persona non grata, there's a vindictive and drunken power player who hasn't hit bottom yet. Poor thing.
Hillary should look on the bright side: a year ago she was winning...
cosanostradamus
· 1 year ago
. Anybody who's paying attention should know the Clintons have never been anything but Republicans in Democrat clothing. It's no accident that Rush Limbo and his ditto-heads are rooting for Billary now. After all, the Clintons have always done the Republicans' corporatist job for them: Welfare reform, NAFTA, the Gingrich Congress, and now this endless, gory hatchet-job on Obama, the first real Democrat with a chance to win since 1968.
But it will backfire, because the target audience is actually paying attention. And no, they're not Alabamans, and this is not 1948. The decent white working-class folk of Pennsylvania are pretty much used to black folks by now. Hell, most of the ones under thirty grew up on Michael Jackson (unfortunately). And even those over thirty love Tiger and Shaq.
As long as a guy keeps his lawn trimmed and his house painted, keeps an eye on his kids and says hello at the supermarket, it doesn't matter so much what color he is any more. In fact, African-Americans, being American and all, really are home-boys even in the Alleghenies and the Poconos, along the Susquehanna and Monongahela, especially compared to some of the newbies from whole other parts of the world.
Billary have made a fatal error by harping on Obama's race, and compounded it by calling him elitist. What the good folks of PA are hearing is that Obama is black, so what? -not scary black. Not like some rapper or something. He might even keep the lawn better than they do. At the same time, everybody knows he'll have to be more careful with the cops, the judges, the landlords, the employers, because the bad old world is not totally gone, yet. Everybody knows that.
That makes him kind of an underdog, in the end. And here in the land of Rocky, they love an underdog. The more Billary and the media gang up on Obama, the more people in PA will root for him. So, go on, beat him bloody, Hannity & Hillary. I can already hear those trumpets as Obama jogs up the steps at the Philadelphia Museum of Art next week.
It's the under-dog thing, stupid. .
Thurston Howell the Third
· 1 year ago
Just when I thought this blog couldn't be any more shrill it outdoes itself. There must be another round of primaries coming up soon. I have a novel idea. Let the voters decide this race. What do you say?
Smarmy
· 1 year ago
Can you imagine anyone with as much baggage and negative ratings as Hillary making an 'enemies list'? They ought to toss her out of the Senate.
kipper
· 1 year ago
that was so not my point.. arent the Obamas and McCains running as a team , didnt the Clintons run as a team the first time?? My point was that we, as liberals, progressives, Democrats .. what ever...should NOT be stooping to the level of the ditto heads and Faux news watchers,,,,,,and here comes the barrage of Hillary started it... take Senator Obama's cue and rise above it... feel the love people, feel the love!
kipper
· 1 year ago
have I in any way bashed, or been disrespectful in any way, to Senator Obama?
kipper
· 1 year ago
it also will stop the second that Senator Obama wins, and she and President Clinton WILL fall in line and work hard to get him elected... hey, ive been wrong before....
kipper
· 1 year ago
There is a TINY degree of difference between the Obama Health care plan and the Clinton health care plan. Some of you attack the Clintons for talking to the right wing, or doing the right wings bidding ( wtf?) and then use words like "slick willy and Billary". Every good yellow dog democrat will be very happy when this family feud ends.. and all it will take is for Senator Obama to WIN, not for Senator Clinton quit........
kipper
· 1 year ago
I agree with most everything Belinda just typed... 100%, therefor WE as Democrats should not be leading the charge with name calling.....Its Senator Clinton.. NOT Billary.... get it? , or just blinded by the light?
kipper
· 1 year ago
Has Andrew Sullivan taken over Americablog? WE GET IT ! The Clintons are horrible, satanic, baby eating , dog kicking , no good rotten people. BUT, what if Senator Obama had not run this year? Almost one half of the Democratic Party want her to be on the ticket, at what point does all the name calling and gotcha ON BOTH SIDES stop?? OR do you all (Belinda?) just get your jollies by beating this dead horse?
Belinda
· 1 year ago
kipper: "Almost one half of the Democratic Party want her to be on the ticket"
What is your source for that? Much of Billary's 'support' is from Limbaugh and Coulter listeners who were instructed to re-register as Democrats and vote for Shillary. True Democrats are absolutely sick of the divisive, bitter partisanship, personal attacks, and name-calling by the Clinton bulldogs. Obama has gotten far more support with his themes of unity and cooperation among both Democrats and Republicans. Most people want to heal the juvenile division in our Congress between Democrats and Republcans. At least Obama is will to work with people of both parties while Hillary is universally despised.
John Aravosis
· 1 year ago
It stops when she gets out of the race and stops trying to destroy our nominee, every major constituent group in the party, our chances in November, and our congressional majority (remember how Hillary had her top 20 funders threaten to defund our effort to hold the US House?). When she stops trying to destroy the Democratic party, we'll stop exposing how corrupt and insane she and her campaign have become. She declared civil war on the party, she can't complain now that she has one.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
Hey John, how did you get to be such a baaaaaaad boy? Seriously, I stumbled upon this site, and I'm amazed at the stuff you and the crew blog about. Hillary is a woman who "does" know her way around Washington.
Nuff said
John Aravosis
· 1 year ago
Yes, blackwolf, she does. And she lost the nomination. And then lost her mind. Doesn't really matter how well she knows Washington. She lost. She's not the Queen. She doesn't inherit the throne. She lost. Now she needs to go away.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
Yep, but hey, I didn't mean that I think she knows her away around Washington in a positive way. She knows how to wallow in the dirt of DC politics. Anyhow, I'm doggin' of the Republican bat boys at work will all this up to date info:)
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It's brutal.
Hillary is done.
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LOL.
I'm sure Kerry is shaking in his boots over that.
When we successfully entered Bagdad, all the offers of help, from the EU and others, were rebuffed because they did not 'get on the bus' during the wind up to war. Bush told them to ef' off. Bet he now wishes he had been more inclusive at that point in history. I do.
Hillary=Quagmire
Hillary has run her campaign EXACTLY the way Bush ran the invasion of Iraq.
I was thinking that too, but about her healthcare proposal. She said we needed to elect a leader that can implement healthcare reform. I was like, DON'T GO THERE! LOL
Why mention that the guy and his wife are Scientologists?
Most religions look pretty wacky when described in black and white, and it's not like the Scientologists are working for the Repubs, like the Moonies and the Fundies are.
That's how I judge a religion's political stance, anyway. If they're not trying to rewrite the laws I have to live under, I got no problem with them.
Not to be outdone by Billary's Bosnia lies, her philandering husband Bill goes on to guest-host the Rush Limbaugh program and diss as many fellow Democrats as he can: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily... The Clintons have crossed the line too many times.
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Wow! I had no idea.
They'll do anything, won't they?
Obama: McCain = Old Politics. Nice! ;-)
In recent days Obama has picked up the endorsements of every major paper in the state and many smaller ones.
Papers endorsing Obama include: The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Philadelphia Daily News, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Allentown Morning Call, The Patriot News of Harrisburg, the Scranton Times-Tribune and Bucks County Courier.
Hillary Clinton's endorsements have been far fewer, such as the Daily Pennsylvanian -- the University of Pennsylvania paper, which drew a lot of coverage yesterday. The daily in Wilkes-Barre said it is not endorsing at all.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/oba...
OR do you all (Belinda?) just get your jollies by beating this dead horse?
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As soon as the horse admits she's dead, we'll quit beating her.
right down to the tiny dick.
ROTFLMAO! Funny, but closer to the truth than you think: http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/q/8/hil...
Clinton accused Obama of "attacking the solution."
The Clinton campaign just held a conference call to respond to the claims in the ad....
An Obama aide said that the campaign decided to run the health care ad because a pro-Clinton 527, the American Legacy Project, is running an ad that goes after Obama for failing to cover every American. Ah hah, but the Clinton campaign notes that the Obama health care ad says that it's Clinton who is distorting Obama's health care plan, not a 527. To which the Obama campaign responds that the 527 is funded with money from Clinton donors.
Here's another ad the Obama campaign has decided to run.
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/20...
I am glad that people have the strength to disregard the Clintons and endorse Obama. No one owes the Clintons anything. This is a democratic country, and you can vote or endorse anyone you want, for whatever reason.
Not because you "owe" someone a favor. This is Clinton BS. It looks like Chelsea is learning fast the Clinton ways of doing politics. People I know around the world have noticed that Hillary is not the person we all thought she was. She has turned into an arrogant, nasty shrew, who does not care one iota for the party or the voters. She does not care who she destroys in her lust for power, and it must be killing her, that someone like Obama, not only runs a better campaign, but seems to be leading her in every way.
I hope this ends soon, and that the Clintons can take their heavy baggage, and go back to gloomy town.
NEW YORK While Beltway pundits and others in the national press have alleged that Sen. Barack Obama is clearly out of touch with most Pennsylvanians, leading newspapers in the state seem to disagree.
In recent days he has picked up the endorsements of the vast majority of these papers in Pennsylvania.
Papers endorsing Obama include: The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Philadelphia Daily News, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Allentown Morning Call, The Patriot News of Harrisburg, the Scranton Times-Tribune and Bucks County Courier.
Hillary Clinton's endorsements have been far fewer, such as the Daily Pennsylvanian -- the University of Pennsylvania paper -- though more may appear on Sunday. The daily in Wilkes-Barre said it is not endorsing at all.
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True.
Hillary's donors have all maxed out, so they're starting 527s to get around the fundraising limits.
This explains alot...
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I'm not sure where they got the idea that loyalty could transfer from the husband to the wife anyway.
Do they think they're a monarchy?
(And, by the way, Kerry went out of his way to fly with Bubba when he was under the Monica shadow and nobody wanted to be around him. How did Hillary thank him? By putting the shiv in and condemning Kerry when he misspoke in that comment about "winding up in Iraq" during the midterms.)
Democratis leaders must lead.
NOW!
Hillary is running as a Republican to win the Democratic nomination.
I think the Democrats that are supporting Hillary have to go back to the reason that they became Democrats in the first place, because it we really wanted this type of politics then there is no difference between the two parties. Bush was put into office because Republicans wanted to be loyal to the Bush family and were scared to go against them, now it seems that Clinton wants to get the nomination the same way because Democrats should be loyal to the Clinton's and should not go against them.
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Well, they are running as a tag team, and she's certainly running on his record.
Bill Clinton is a former president, as far as I know Michelle is not, to have a former president smearing and attacking another Democrat and the front runner is just beyond belief, he is not just another spouse
They are running as a team and she is running on his record because if you take away Bill exactly what has Hillary done on her own that qualifies her to become president
that should help the old love quotient.
Hopefully, the end is near.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/19/clinto...
But Obama now has the stronger gravitational pull. The Clinton orbit has swayed off track, and now they are left desperately floating in space, between their two worlds, possibly lost forever.
KarenMrsLloydRichards: :-))) More please.
And now, to show my gratitude--a paypal donation.
BaROCKY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyhIBXNfqMA
Despite a pre-emptive warning from Robert Bauer, a campaign finance expert and lawyer for Mr. Obama’s campaign, the organizers of the American Leadership Project have plunged ahead.
The group is filled with people who have ties to the Clintons: Roger Salazar, who worked in the press operation of the Clinton White House and is a political consultant in California, and Paul Rivera, another former Clinton White House staff member and senior political adviser for Senator John Kerry’s presidential campaign in 2004 who worked on Mrs. Clinton’s Senate campaign in 2000.
Jay Eisenhofer, a lawyer in New York who raised at least $100,000 for Mrs. Clinton, making him a “Hillraiser,” gave $50,000 to the group. Richard Ziman, another Hillraiser and Los Angeles real estate magnate, contributed $15,000, and William Titelman, a former Pennsylvania lobbyist and longtime Clinton fund-raiser who gave enough to spend a night in the Lincoln Bedroom, contributed $10,000 and has helped the group raise money.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/politics/2...
Obama's people really have to get some lawyers involved in this. It's obviously an attempt the skirt the campaign laws.
Reading through your comments kept reminding me of someone/something. I figured it out (and no it is not nasty)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOjso0rPncc
The Clintons appear SO self -absorbed that she may, in fact, try to, behind the scenes, derail much of what Sen , Obama wants to do for our country if he wins the office.
Does anyone here believe she can be THAT spiteful?
Stuart & Robert Wyman-Cahall
Las Vegas, NV 89142
As a progreesive, I'm well aware that the Lewinski affair was nothing more than a land-deal-gone-bad years earlier. And every time I see the Clintons I have a hard time for forgiving him for that conduct because when you know that the right wing nutters are going to look for ANYTHING to bring you down...well, he shoulda kept his pants on for a few years, and not throw our agenda out the window.
Thats really why George Bush is our president today.
Sociopathic behavior, maybe?
http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/at-clinton-h...
This list is from "Profile of a Sociopath". Is is a pretty good list of sociopathic indicators.
Glibness/Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
Grandiose Sense of Self
Pathological Lying
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
Shallow Emotions
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Narcissism, grandiosity (self-importance not based on achievments)
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
McCrazy: ‘A lot of our problems today are psychological.’
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/19/mccain-a-lo...
Anybody who's paying attention should know the Clintons have never been anything but Republicans in Democrat clothing. It's no accident that Rush Limbo and his ditto-heads are rooting for Billary now. After all, the Clintons have always done the Republicans' corporatist job for them: Welfare reform, NAFTA, the Gingrich Congress, and now this endless, gory hatchet-job on Obama, the first real Democrat with a chance to win since 1968.
But it will backfire, because the target audience is actually paying attention. And no, they're not Alabamans, and this is not 1948. The decent white working-class folk of Pennsylvania are pretty much used to black folks by now. Hell, most of the ones under thirty grew up on Michael Jackson (unfortunately). And even those over thirty love Tiger and Shaq.
As long as a guy keeps his lawn trimmed and his house painted, keeps an eye on his kids and says hello at the supermarket, it doesn't matter so much what color he is any more. In fact, African-Americans, being American and all, really are home-boys even in the Alleghenies and the Poconos, along the Susquehanna and Monongahela, especially compared to some of the newbies from whole other parts of the world.
Billary have made a fatal error by harping on Obama's race, and compounded it by calling him elitist. What the good folks of PA are hearing is that Obama is black, so what? -not scary black. Not like some rapper or something. He might even keep the lawn better than they do. At the same time, everybody knows he'll have to be more careful with the cops, the judges, the landlords, the employers, because the bad old world is not totally gone, yet. Everybody knows that.
That makes him kind of an underdog, in the end. And here in the land of Rocky, they love an underdog. The more Billary and the media gang up on Obama, the more people in PA will root for him. So, go on, beat him bloody, Hannity & Hillary. I can already hear those trumpets as Obama jogs up the steps at the Philadelphia Museum of Art next week.
It's the under-dog thing, stupid.
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What is your source for that? Much of Billary's 'support' is from Limbaugh and Coulter listeners who were instructed to re-register as Democrats and vote for Shillary. True Democrats are absolutely sick of the divisive, bitter partisanship, personal attacks, and name-calling by the Clinton bulldogs. Obama has gotten far more support with his themes of unity and cooperation among both Democrats and Republicans. Most people want to heal the juvenile division in our Congress between Democrats and Republcans. At least Obama is will to work with people of both parties while Hillary is universally despised.
Nuff said
positive way. She knows how to wallow in the dirt of DC politics. Anyhow, I'm doggin'
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