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AMERICAblog: At McCain event, Iowa pastor apparently wants Jesus to honor his own name by defeating Obama

  • gwpriester · 1 year ago
    Christian arrogance and ignorance.
  • BrainyPirate · 1 year ago
    some of us are trying to point out that there are many Christians voting for Obama this year. Have we forgotten the first truly evangelical President we had was J. Carter? There's a lot in the Dem platform that Christians can be proud of -- how do we get our voices heard over the shouts of the "America is God's Country" crowd?
  • gwpriester · 1 year ago
    Yeah, you're right. Sorry. I am just a bit tired of Christians who aren't very Christian and Conservatives who are not very conservative. Apologies.
  • mermaidart · 1 year ago
    I really don't think Jesus cares about U.S. Presidential elections. Just witness the last eight years.
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    ROFLMAOPMP
  • mermaidart · 1 year ago
    Glad to have brightened your day <wink - oh, God, too much Sarah Palin>.
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    is just beyond the pale.

    Yep! As in pale, pale, pale like white as in White Supremist. I suppose that is one of those pastors who deem I could not possibly be Christian since I'm not Caucasian. Makes me almost wish I wasn't Christian. And also tempts me a to be bigoted against Whites.
  • Eyeball_Kid · 1 year ago
    More myth-building for Christo-nationalism. Aren't we special.
  • JMOHR · 1 year ago
    Yes, we get to see the true purpose of the separation between church and state. There should be some serious consideration to the prohibiting of certain churches when they cross the line. We need only look at the toxic level of political discussion, the hatred and ignorance of certain right wing, religious zealots to understand the danger to our way of life, freedom and domestic security.
  • Traumatic · 1 year ago
    It amazes me that people can be so spellbound by myths. That they would go against decency and morals, because someone who represents the myth and propagates it for their own benefit tells them to.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    The way to go forward is to make all the churches pay taxes both property and income like a business. That is what they all are right from the Catholic Church down to the Church of hidden butt cracks.
    Make them pay. No more free private jets, no more free limos, no more free houses. Then if they want to participate in this country they can follow the laws that apply to all business. Until then STFU.
  • bosdav · 1 year ago
    Tax them all into extinction.
  • PinkDog · 1 year ago
    The excerpt Joe posted was not long enough for me to see the utter eff-up-ed-ness of what was said. Here is a longer clip from an AP article:

    Rev. Arnold Conrad, past pastor of the Grace Evangelical Free Church:

    "I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god — whether it's Hindu, Buddha, Allah — that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons," Conrad said. "And Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they're going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and Election Day," he said.

    WOW.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    God can't guard His own reputation without their prayers???....oh boy....Lord have mercy on us all !!
  • BarrieT · 1 year ago
    Yup - even God needs to run a negative campaign. I guess he has nothing else left.
  • shrrrr · 1 year ago
    I'm still reeling from the previous post so an evangelical pastor spewing this stuff seems par for course somehow.

    Let's say there is an attempt to harm Obama. The monster is, of course, caught right away. As part of the investigation, the SS runs thru all their video (using facial recognition) of all the McCain rallies and, behold, the monster was at a rally or two. It's a fact that if you pass through a metal dectector to an event like that, you've also been video taped. McCain better pray, I mean pray, he has not released a monster.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Palin's talking abortion in Pennsylvania too.

    They're going right for the fundie/wingnut base.

    Best thing would be to promote every wingnut statement they make.

    They'll get the fundies, but lose the independents and middle of the road Repubs.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    Lollll....agreed Bush_Bites. Let em preach to the far right. Everybody else can vote for Obama and Biden. This is some funny stuff. Only in America.
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    So when Obama wins, is this "man of God" going to disparage "God" for not defending his own honor???

    Or will he (preacher) crawl back under the rock he crept out from???
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    And if you haven't had enough of arrogant assholes to last a lifetime, Wachovia's dishing up another helping.... they're sending their top exec's and families on an all-expenses paid cruise of the Greek Isles.... for a job well done..
  • BroD · 1 year ago
    That's one of those totally incoherent invocations that leaves you thinking "What?!" I mean, was there really a thought in there?
  • jd_nyc · 1 year ago
    Now just wait a minute...

    That pastor just insulted Hindus, Muslims and Buddhists.

    Why doesn't americablog send this story to asian-American supporters of Obama?

    This jerkwad pastor just insulted most Asian-Americans as being un-American.
  • icebergslim · 1 year ago
    John McCain is in Iowa because he MUST DEFEND THE BUSH STATES OF 2004. That is why.

    McCain is done trying to grab, or snatch a blue state. He must defend all the Bush states, including Iowa, or he looses. As Obama have various roads to 270, McCain does not.

    Expect him to pull out the expensive state of Pennsylvania, next and focus all his energy on Ohio and Florida.

    He must defend: Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, North Carolina, Indiana, Missouri, Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Iowa

    These are all states that have Obama leading significantly, leading close, or too close to call.

    McCain does not have the money to defend all these states. He can forget New Mexico, that is 3 EVs. So, he must make the EVs up somewhere, which is why the battle in Nebraska and Maine. The only two states that delegate their EVs by congressional district wins. Obama is fighting him in Nebraska right now and expect Obama to ramp it up in Maine.

    The states to watch with large voter turnout is Georgia. The other state under the radar is West Virginia, which are getting these ads run by Obama because of the border of Ohio and Virginia.
  • Wild_Weasel · 1 year ago
    Please have the Internal Revenue Service investigate the tax-exempt status of this person and his organization.
  • RevDrBillyBob · 1 year ago
    MEMO to you godless heathen libruls: . . . This should come as no surprise. After all, th' Rev. Dr. Jesus DID endorse McCain-Palin awhile back. DUH.
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    The downstream thread about Norm Coleman distorting Al Franken's ad made me comment that Lincoln was ashamed of the party he founded. But this one makes me feel Jesus must be just as badly ashamed of the Church He founded
  • dad · 1 year ago
    I wish Jesus would just come out and endorse.

    I think some would be surprised if he did.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    We've all heard of food fights. Now we have god fights.
  • okojo · 1 year ago
    The two states that McCain should be only thinking about are Ohio and Florida, with a couple trips to Nevada thrown in. Basically he has to follow Kerry's plan, and do it better, which he has shown he cannot...
  • okojo · 1 year ago
    McCain also has to win Virginia, and he looks like he lost that with NC basically a tie and now Georgia in play.. He also has to win MO.

    He shouldn't worry about Iowa, MN, PA even NM, because all of them are lost. It is "firewall" time because the "firewall" states are crumbling
  • BrainyPirate · 1 year ago
    I found an email address for Rev. Conrad at http://www.interimpastors.com/index.html and sent him the following message, using language he might understand:

    Dear Rev. Conrad,

    I don't know about Asians praying for Obama, but this white evangelical U.S. Christian is praying that God liberate us from the shackles of the GOP! I have had enough of the greed and arrogance and lack of compassion shown by Republicans over the past 28 years -- as Ezekiel 16 says, this nation has outdone Sodom under their leadership.

    In Christ who is Lord of all Creation,
    bp
  • BarrieT · 1 year ago
    Why campaign in a hopeless state? It depends whether you are recruiting voters, or assassins.
  • shell · 1 year ago
    The "Evangelical Free Church"? I thought it sounded like that church was free of evangelicals.

    No? Damn!
  • sherifffruitfly · 1 year ago
    So will they turn on Jesus as a terrorist-lover if Obama wins?
  • akonuche · 1 year ago
    Jesus loves all people equally, so I suppose He already is a terrorist lover.
  • jsdc007 · 1 year ago
    Uhhh, genius, there's no such god as "Hindu."

    If these dumbass preachers ever picked up a book other than the King James Bible, they'd know a bit more about the world.
  • burro · 1 year ago
    Jesus is a registered Republican in the State of Confusion. So there.
  • Kcunac · 1 year ago
    It gets better. He also said: "And Lord, I pray that you will guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their God is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and election day."

    Just when you think these no hopers can't demean Christianity any further they turn it into a WWF match.
  • BarrieT · 1 year ago
    WCW Deity Smackdown.

    WCW = Wasilla Creationist Winker
  • skwcw2001 · 1 year ago
    buddha isnt looked at or worshiped as a god he is a reflection of what is attainable to the state of awakening
  • PinkDog · 1 year ago
    Am I the only one who thinks that sounds like a veiled threat directed at God?
  • PrettyMuch · 1 year ago
    I did not know God has a reputation. Apparently the gods of the world socialize.
  • downindixie · 1 year ago
    "an Jesus wept"
  • MNUSA · 1 year ago
    I think He could care less who is the next US president or who wins tomorrow's football game, for that matter. Some of these people should have their head's examined. They give Christianity a bad name.
  • millerdunwoody · 1 year ago
    Tax exemption, anyone?
  • akonuche · 1 year ago
    That "pastor's" prayer will be answered. Just not in the way that he was hoping.

    God is funny that way.
  • Saffi · 1 year ago
    That so-called pastor is ignorant beyond belief. Forget the damage he's doing to the church-state relationship. What really upsets me is the horrendous blasphemy he's committing by presuming to order God around.

    And since Muslims are monotheists, when they pray to God, they are praying to the same God that Pastor Douchebag is ordering around. But I guess when you treat God as your personal errand boy and order Him around, it's easy to consider Him your personal property and therefore the petitions of others to His grace are irrelevant.

    It's a perfect illustration of the original reasoning behind why church and state should be separate - not to protect the state from undue influence, but to protect religion from corruption. Guess that's too late for Reverend Douchebag's flock.

    I know it's nit-picking, but I'm a Christian, and these idiots have been giving my tribe a bad name for decades now.
  • Wolfsinger · 1 year ago
    This Conrad fella prays to his God with a threat saying basically,

    “Your reputation is on the line here Buddy Jesus and I don’t know if I can believe in you if those OTHER Gods let Obama win so you BETTER get on the ball or else! ‘Cause if I find out that their GODS are BIGGER than you? Well, I’m just gonna to take my hypocritical ass of a self home and get me a hooker or 6 just like Falwell, Baker and Haggart! You hear me Jesus!?!? Don’t make me, Jesus! Don’t make me!”
  • paulbe · 1 year ago
    Why does America have so many "Pastors"? Have they nothing useful to do with their time?
  • Nova16 · 1 year ago
    "Faith based politics are tiresome and annoying. If there is a God, fine. If there is no God, fine. The disasters that his nation faces at home and abroad created by the Bush administration and the attempt by the neocons to win another run at the White House in order to gain power and control over the US treasury for their greed and profit must not be allowed. Metaphysical incantations to an imaginary entity is surley a sign of of some mental defect in the minds of republicans, who believe that some supernatural power will trump the will of the electorate regardless who is running in an election. If one person is delusional, it is called insanity. When many are delusional, it is called religion.