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AMERICAblog: Bailout investments have already lost $9 billion

  • Gridlock · 11 months ago
    It's change! and hope! changehope! CHOPE!
  • green_libertarian · 11 months ago
    Looting. Did you not notice?

    Greed is good.
  • Indigo · 11 months ago
    Can't loot an empty treasury.
  • green_libertarian · 11 months ago
    empty is a relative term.

    Amazingly, our credit is still good. Well, not me or you mind you, but Uncle Sam's.
  • Indigo · 11 months ago
    Perhaps I misunderstand but it looks like a long term plan to semi-nationalize the banking system. On the surface of it, I have no objection to that.
  • Older_Wiser · 11 months ago
    If a thief comes into your house and takes your wallet, do you really want to tell him, "Wait a minute, let me get that money I have hidden before you leave..."?

    Paulson, former CEO of Goldman Sachs, was the brain trust behind this particular bailout, and the switching of rules to allow outfits like his former business to qualify for TARP by becoming bank holding companies. Now, the Rubinites are following him into the next administration?

    Cheeeez. Pillaging has never been so easy.
  • MaudGonne · 11 months ago
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  • caphillprof · 11 months ago
    It's not just the bonuses, though clearly the bonuses are an easy call and probably the first step; it's also the pay scales particularly as they careen out of control near the top; and you also need some one forcing them to loan money to customers. The Brits did the latter by putting the bailout money not in the banks but in the special bank accounts in the treasury, when the banks loan money to customers they acquire the money from those treasury accounts, but if they aren't lending money then the bailout money stays in the treasury. Simple really but not simple enough for the GS13s at the US Treasury.
  • EdNSted · 11 months ago
    I don't understand why Americans have such a hard time adding 2 + 2. If the stock of these financial groups were such a good bet, there would be a FLOOD of people from all over the planet literally crawling over the top of each other to invest in them. Money flocks to profitable businesses. If they deal we good, investors would be furious that government of the United States was their competition for these stocks. The fact that the only buyer for these stocks is the US government is what we simple folk like to call A BIG CLUE. Clearly, I'm no expert but I have observed that it is often the case that when there is no market for the product you are offering, it means your product is of little or no value. Anyone who honestly believes these stocks will pay off 'in the long term' should be rushing TODAY to invest their 401K money in these institutions.

    Here's something else to consider. That same logic applies equally to the auto industry. Let's say, as it now appears, that the Democrats successfully engineer a 'bridge loan' (a term I find terribly disingenuous) for the "Big 3" auto makers. In the words of Wisconsin's immortal Ernie Von Schledorn, "Who do ya know vants to buy a new GM?" You cannot take the blood out of the water. The damage has already been done. If you put Ford, GM and Chrysler on the welfare roles today, they will be there at the end of the Obama administration. You really think $34 billion will turn these 3 into a highly profitable industry? Do you believe the world will beat a path to GM's door ANYTIME IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS? Even old Ernie knows that if it were that simple, investors would be punching each other in the face to throw their money at GM. How many $34 billion 'bridge loans' are you prepared to give these folks on the basis that they are just too big to fail? Think long and hard about that because I'll guarantee you that one loan is not going to be nearly enough. And each time the pigs return to the trough, you can bet that profitability will be "just around the corner". Just one more injection of capital and all will be right with the world.

    Still, as long as China continues to accept our post dated checks, I suppose we can sustain our collective delusion.
  • Mark · 11 months ago
    What is the legality (or constitutionality) of requiring those accepting bailout packages to switch their compensation schedule to match the GS schedule? CEOs end up as GS-16s, top notch traders become GS-13s or GS-14s?
  • red_dwarf · 11 months ago
    And all of this happened just weeks before W left office. Looks like the rePigs just jacked the younger generation.

    Too bad. Maybe by the time you're 50 or thereabouts you'll have your democracy back, but I doubt it. In fact, I'm willing to bet it'll get much worse. Freedom to travel, associate and privacy? You can kiss your 1st Amendment rights good-bye. Its IT time.
  • exectec · 11 months ago
    Did I miss it or has anyone mentioned the major activity of GM top officers' inside trading on 3/20/2008?
  • Tim · 11 months ago
    I feel the banking bailout was necessary no matter the oversight. I'm not saying I would prefer a more effective path, but it has to be done. Now it's a different story for detroit....as I write about here, http://joshuetree.blogspot.com/2008/11/let-gm-g... - I think we need to let them go, but protect them from liquidation.