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AMERICAblog: Bear Stearns gets a $30 billion bailout, but no bankruptcy reform for real people who might lose their homes

  • jr · 1 year ago
    Second gilded age on the march
  • scooter in brooklyn · 1 year ago
    So?
  • Stuart · 1 year ago
    Will someone please explain to me why the Senate Democrats simply allow the Republicans to demand a 60 vote threshold to pass a bill instead of making them actually stay up all night and day, reading the phone book, or whatever, so that they have to conduct a filibuster the way God intended? Why do we make it so easy for them? I recall that it wasn't so long ago that the Republican majority told us that they weren't going to tolerate our filibustering major bills or nominations, at all. Why are we being so sporting with them now? I'd like to think that Harry Reid and the gang have some good reason for being such patsies, but I can't begin to imagine what it could be.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I really wish I knew more about economics. My fist thought when I heard about Bear Stearns was let them go under BUT a friend of mine said no way. It would be like a domino effect, first Bear Stearns then bank after bank. He said the government had to prop up Bear Stearns. I have no idea of what to believe at this point and I bet I am not the only American wondering what is true, what is fiction.
  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    Bring back the "welfare queens"!

    The "welfare kings" cost too much
  • Andrew · 1 year ago
    Why would anyone be surprised. Both government and the banks knew where this would end up and you also know that their always into long term planning. So change the bankruptcy laws in advance of the fiscal tsunami that they knew was coming and let the little guy take it in the neck again and you can thank both parties for that move. It happened on the Republicans watch, but the Democrats went along for the ride as long as the banking lobby was still sending funds their way. There is literally no difference between the two parties when it comes to doing what is best for the country as well as its people as they are simply in the back pockets of the major corporations and banks.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    I spent 3 hours watching that hearing. Lost in the reporting was the fact that not only did Bear Stearns get $29 Billion to sweeten the JPMorgan/Chase deal, it also got $25 Billion at the new "window" opened for investment companies and such. That's $54 Billion, $54, not $29. (JPMorgan only kicked in $1B, so if they can't manage the damage, the taxpayers are going to get stuck with $54B).

    It was disgusting watching Schwartz and Dimon in their $600 shirts, esp. Schwartz who complained that "rumors and innuendoes" were being spread that BS was in trouble, and that caused its downfall. Senators were crying like babies at the thought that, as stated by all witnesses, that the entire financial sector would have collapsed, had BS filed for bankruptcy.

    What a fucking sham and disgrace. The taxpayers are going to be screwed to the wall.
  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    Aquarius2

    If what you were told is true, OK then, but Bear Stearns should damn well pay the taxpayers back every single penny.

    With interest.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    I would love to see some heads roll if only France would send us their old guillotines...could I be first to use one on those bastards?
  • Fuzzy and Blue · 1 year ago
    “At this point in time, we don’t have the appetite in the Senate to face this.”

    Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I wonder if I can float that kind of crapola with my creditors?

    .... or maybe- just maybe- I better make sure my Hubby and babies are up for homelessness first, eh?
  • scooter in brooklyn · 1 year ago
    at least harry reid has kept the senate in pro forma session to prevent more recess appointments. it aint much, but it's something.
  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    Older,

    As long as we all get a turn. There are a lot of heads that need to roll and I don't want you to wear your arm out.
  • Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood) · 1 year ago
    The poor get poorer and the rich get the rest of our stuff. This whole mortgage crisis is just another reshuffling of our wealth to the hyper-rich.
  • ChicagoKid · 1 year ago
    OT: McSame/SHRILLARY '08?

    seems she's got the "Wright" kind of problem!!!

    http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archiv...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    I'd punch McConnell in the jaw, if he had one.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Bear Sterns went to the Government and got a $30b bailout ... and all I got is this stupid t-shirt.
  • scooter in brooklyn · 1 year ago
    mcconnell and his beard, elaine chow screw the little guys at every opportunity.
  • ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago
    Mitch McConnell is too busy tapping his foot in the stalls of the Union Station bathrooms to deal with these silly problems that might ruin the lives of America's silly little citizens.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    OT: our friend karl rove certainly is in a tizzy over this:

    http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Rove_calls_Siegel...
  • Doughh · 1 year ago
    t's stupid to give bankruptcy judges the power to abrogate contracts on a random basis with no consistency. No one would lend money under those circumstances. I'm all for helping people in trouble but this isn't the way to do it. Also you don't want to reward people for buying homes they couldn't afford in the first place.
  • Apt604 · 1 year ago
    Uhh, bankruptcy judges abrogate existing contracts all the time. It's what bankruptcy judges do. This was just a debate over whether they could do it for loans on primary residences - they already can for debts on vacation homes, farms, and just about anything else.

    The vote today had nothing to do with the merits. The bill had been changed to address any honest, good-faith policy arguments the lending industry could make. Instead, the vote was simply a matter of 58 Senators sucking up to their masters on Wall Street.
  • missmarple · 1 year ago
    What about the people who bought homes they could afford then got laid off. They're not looking for a reward - just breathing space until they can find another job and get back on their feet. What help are they getting?
  • LeslieB · 1 year ago
    I'd be willing to start a homeowner bailout fund with my upcoming May "stimulus package."
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    Mitch McConnell is a VET ya know...
  • vwcat · 1 year ago
    The democrats of the past 20 years have looked more like republicans. They have gone along and voted with republicans for all the bad legislation.
    Maybe if democrats were not ashamed of being democrats and acted more like democrats our country would not be in as bad of shape and people would have stood some chance.
    I feel the democrats sold out to the repubicans and only now are beginning to find their way back. Slowly.
  • TomJoad · 1 year ago
    On this "going along with Bush" thing...I gotta admit, I'm puzzled. It is like this putz is "King o the World". I live in Norway, and Jens Stoltenberg, prime minister here...he's been a stand-up guy I thought for years. Thought he had values similar to mine.
    It's like, he became PM and overnight they took his brain, returned it next day and he's Bush's new poodle. Same with the British PM, who talked big about being against the war in Iraq, but not realizes they "must keep troops in Basra" for longer...
    German Chancellor...the one who got startled when Bush inappropriately started giving a backrub to her, she's making nice with Bush.
    And that little insight, from a UN meeting where we overheard Bush talking to Blair by accident, him with the roll crumbs falling out of his mouth, talking like some mafia enforcer, no class, and as if Blair were his 10 dollar hooker, and Blair lapping it up.

    Even Jimmy Carter, publicly makes statements last year about Bush being the WORST prez in history, and not two days later mumbling how he was "taken out of context" and didn't mean it quite like that...

    Wonder if it has more to do with the eavesdropping. Folk in power always have something to hide, which means blackmail is pretty easy to do...

    Just wait, I'll be posting as a wingnut tomorrrow, recanting my whole life.
  • Jim · 1 year ago
    Excellent posting. I hope you do not recant what you wrote tomorrow.
  • the blind fold · 1 year ago
    what dream? we live in a win-lose system: wiseguys ALWAYS win

    bankrupt Countrywide got bought out by Bank of America, and now the disgraced CEO and president were awarded bonuses of $10 million and $9 million respectively. How does floundering Bank of America do it? well, for one thing, they no longer issue student loans...
  • Jim · 1 year ago
    I believe that allowing the continuation of the exception at all with any time frame should be forgotten. It would be best to strike the exception with only an added condition to the legislation that the debtor can finalize the chapter 13 plan and continue paying the modified mortgage for the worked out conditions.
    The bill as it stands has nothing to do with its title. It now is set as a cleanup measure for after people loose their homes.
    It is time to strike this exception and add fairness and a freer market out there. Why should primary residences be encumbered when the abuses from the exception are toppling our economy.
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    Trust me, when this house of cards comes crashing down 30 billion won't sound like squat.
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    Busboy----so do you think we've seen the worst? I just want to hear your opinion and I'm not looking for a new one right now so just tell me what you think.

    You are not a stupid person though we disagree on a lot so I would like to hear your honest answer.
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    Busboy @ 05:00 PM---thank you for the honest reply. Like I said earlier we disagree on a lot. Good to talk the real issues we're facing though. The folks in DC obviously don't give a shit.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    scottinsf 4 minutes ago:Trust me, when this house of cards comes crashing down 30 billion won't sound like squat.

    The stock market; gold and silver markets, are all saying the crisis is over. They're dealing with the fallout in Europe now. The Europeans had a huge stake in US subprime mortgage derivatives.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    O/T Hillary says she never told Richardson that "Obama cannot win" Maybe she said "can't" instead of "cannot"?? Who knows... At any rate, it looks like Richardson is on the Clinton "to do" list:

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04...
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Stuart 2 minutes ago

    Come on, Stuart; ever heard of Joe Lieberman? One vote away from a Republican majority...
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Yeah, scottinsf, I think it's over (the banking crisis). It's washing ashore in Europe right now. There's still going to be no growth for awhile because of the oil price, but IMHO that's an unrelated, currently uncontrollable phenom.