DISQUS

AMERICAblog: Big GOP consultant comes out against anti-gay measure in Florida

  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    "If loving gay couples want to form a union what business is it of mine? "

    Amen, brother. That is what needs to be asked of EVERY anti gay marriage hysteric out there....

    I bet that guy also smokes weed....
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I can respect a Republican who isn't a hypocrite. Wow, if there were more like him in his party then maybe the Republicans wouldn't have to go into exile for the next ten years. Did anyone hear about Utah banning the "Zack and Miri make a porno" movie? Yes they did. I guess after they are done trying to ban gay marriage in California, the Mormons will move to book burnings?
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    "Alaska's Personnel Board finds that Gov. Sarah Palin did not violate ethics law by trying to get her ex-brother-in-law fired."

    This is "big" breaking news on CNN. What a joke. Isn't this the board she put together? And, it comes out the night before the election? Do they think we are stupid?
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Innocent? On the eve of election? From a board she put together that doesn't have any legal standing? How utterly convenient.

    Speaking of Alaska. I heard some good Republican "citizens" up there are wearing "F--- the FEDS!" t-shirts in support of their CONVICTED Senator. Nice, huh?
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    I can't think of another state with a group of people asking to leave the Union. These people are NOT patriots. I think some might call them traitors. Isn't the "First Dude" one of these people?
  • yellowdogdem · 1 year ago
    Yes, or at least he was until it became inconvenient. And she's a fellow-traveler and sympathizer. He's belonged to a treasonous organization, and she's aided and abetted it. The media have basically given them a pass on this. And they purport to represent the party of Lincoln, who's great mission was to save the Union. Ha!
  • unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago
    Mike Gravel for Alaskan Governor!
  • Older_Wiser · 1 year ago
    I think he was at one time...nope, it was Wally Hickel I was thinking of.
    Hell, let Alaska secede, then we wouldn't have to put up with idiots running for president.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    I think we should invade them for their oil.
  • unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago
    Just like Canada
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Yes, and lets put their governor in a stockade! By the way there are other states that have wingnut separatist, but I can't think of a governor who actively supported them except for Sarah Palin. Had the media made a big deal out of this then Ms. Palin might have had a hard time getting her security clearance. No separatist should EVER get access to our top secret information!
  • unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago
    "Do they think we are stupid?"
    If they don't yet; that would be their goal.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Was watching CNN because I can't get MSNBC at the Quality Inn here in Tunica, MS. Imagine not having MSNBC?!!? Any way, I just couldn't stomach Lou Dobbs. Had to switch to something less nauseating.
  • Older_Wiser · 1 year ago
    Fine. But Libertarians not only want to fuck you any way they can physically, but materially as well, as in "I've got mine, get your own any way you can." And drown the government in a bathtub, to boot.

    Libertarians always give backhanded endorsements, using the Constitution to back them up. Real Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hydes and hardly trustworthy.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    David Vitter not only likes hookers. He likes diapers, as well, according to his hookers!
  • Patrick_Bateman · 1 year ago
    He's a swinger, of course he is open minded.

    Gay clubs are so inclusive, Village Station on any given night has trannies, bisexuals, straights, swingers.

    They felt comfortable there. Who wouldn't?
  • unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Man alive...they're been running the Jeremiah Wright ad here in the Twin Cities constantly all day today.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    Here in Central California too, grandma. But I am convinced it's to get the "values" voters out tomorrow to vote for prop 8. McCain doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning California. It's got to be for prop 8.
  • yellowdogdem · 1 year ago
    The Jeremiah Wright ad has been running non-stop all weekend in Pennsylvania, together with Joe the Plumber and Chuck Norris for the NRA pointing a shotgun at the audience. These ads are back-to-back. Does it have the intended effect? Maybe. We'll see. I'm hoping people just tune it out because they're sick of being hectored. All of which tells you something. The fact that these vile ads are running everywhere tells you that McCain knows about them. He could stop them if he wanted to. But he can't or won't control his own campaign, which tells you a lot about what kind of of president he'd be. He's a two-faced lier. He goes on SNL and pretends to be jocular and avuncular; meanwhile he has other people doing this kind of dirty work for him.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    I want this election over. I am not worried about Obama - at least the last couple of weeks- but prop 8 has me a nervous wreck.
    The unbelievable lies coming out of these ads is so Christian.
  • dad · 1 year ago
    dandy
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    I'm a nervous wreck about Prop 8 too Karol. It's not often that we get to vote against the mormon church directly stripping us of our constitutional rights. I hope it never happens again.
  • red_dwarf · 1 year ago
    We discussed sometime last year a scientific study reporting (from a peer review Journal) that 80% of all homophobes were closeted homosexuals suffering from some type of pyschosis in dealing with their own self-identify. If the truth were known I'd bet half of those in the Mormon church were homosexual. If I were a homosexual I would seriously consider moving to Utah (oh the challenge!).
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    The backlash against this has already started. The mormon church will know true backlash if Prop 8 passes.

    Trust me.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    I agree, scott. I can't understand how anyone would vote to strip someone of his/her rights. It makes me sick.
  • red_dwarf · 1 year ago
    Stone's a liar, just like all rePigs.

    When the fascist right arises from the ashes in 20 years there will be no more room for homophobic bigots or anti-abortion religious fruitcakes. It is one of the many lessons they must learn. Stone, evidently, is already harping these lessons to the brain dead faithful.
  • willnyc · 1 year ago
    He's a libertarian, not a repub, right? My experience with libertarians is that they're so out of the loop that they grab onto anything that passes their way to feed off of, much like blowfish and remora. Most libertarians don't even believe in public school or infrastructure like roads and bridges. Yikes! Ayn Rand never saw that coming!
  • razzledazzle · 1 year ago
    So this is justification to dismiss their stand on personal liberty? Brilliant.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Let's not forget this sleazebag was behind the anti-Hillary 527 group Citizens United Not Timid, effective only for its disgusting acronym.
  • mamazboy · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the reminder! Stone is a leech with just enough sense to see which way the wind is blowing -- and reacting accordingly.
  • bluestockton · 1 year ago
    Remember, Jeb Bush's deep-pocket buddies bankrolled an amendment that says a simple majority of the votes isn't enough to add an amendment to the Florida constitution. Their goal was to prevent tax increases, but they learned a lesson in unintended consequences. Now, unless an amendment gets 60% of the vote, it fails. Polls are showing support for the anti-gay amendment in Florida -- but it's stuck at around 55%, less than the magic number.
  • LauraSchleifer · 1 year ago
    I'm not familiar with Stone, but any Republicans coming out in favor of gay rights is always a good thing, since it's their constituency that needs to hear it.

    The role that homophobia played in the 2004 election was shocking and horrifying, and I'm hoping to see that in the coming years that's going to change. I'm a big subscriber to the theory that the reason we've seen such venomous attacks on gay rights in recent years in because gay relationships and gay identified people are becoming more and more acceptable to the mainstream society with every passing year. Lately I've been looking at a website, perspctv.com at http://www.perspctv.com that measures public and media opinion on different issues, as well as political figures, through a unique method; namely, tracking the number of times they're mentioned in the media and the blogosphere. At the moment it's the presidential candidates, but after tomorrow it'll be issues themselves that will be tracked. It will be very interesting, as the economic crisis deepens and the wars continue and the environment crumbles, to see how much time is being spent trying to deny gay people of their basic human rights. Right now we still need to pay attention--a LOT of attention--to accomplishing full rights for every human being, regardless of sexual orientation. But won't it be a glorious day when the issue of gay rights disappears off the political scene altogether--because, like heterosexuality, homosexuality will be able to be able to be simply an aspect of private, personal and cultural life without having to be a debatable political issue everyone has an opinion on.
  • cellophane · 1 year ago
    "ANY REPUBLICAN COMING OUT IN FAVOR OF GAYS RIGHTS IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING."
  • mamazboy · 1 year ago
    After seeing Stone prattling (rather mindlessly) on MSNBC recently, I have to say the thought of him wagging his fat ass around a swingers' club is a bit much. Though of course I salute him for this sensible stand on gay rights.
  • shell · 1 year ago
    Same topic -- different state:

    Here in California, in Sacramento, you wouldn't guess (maybe you would) who is really FOR the discrimination proposition: Ukranians. There are a LOT of Ukranians in Sacramento. And they all seem to be VERY religious -- which is, I guess, why they got approved to enter the U.S.

    They are very stupid, though. At a MAJOR intersection, in rush hour, my daughter saw the protest. She parked her car and joined it. On one side were the YES people. As she described it, 95% Ukranians. On the other side, the NO people. No Ukranians. Now I have absolutely nothing against Ukranians unless they use their ignorance to interfere with American laws. And they are ignorant on this topic. They claimed they didn't want their children taught "gay sex" in public school. Can you get much more ignorant than that? (Of course, their churches told them that.)

    And, of course, they ALL had their own children with them. Even though it was dark. Even though it was RAINING. Where was Child Protective Services?????
  • Naked Bunny with a Whip · 1 year ago
    I've often wished that people would stop calling measures like Prop 8 "anti-gay marriage" and instead focus on calling them what they really are: anti-marriage. Period.
  • cellophane · 1 year ago
    What's wrong with gay bathroom sex? It's a shame that Larry Craig was reduced to that. I wonder what kind of reception he'd get here if he advocated for the rights of homosexuals?
  • cellophane · 1 year ago
    And Roger Stone has impeccable personal taste.