AMERICAblog: Big Time Lobbyist Charlie Black is quitting Mark Penn for John McCain
tommccaslin
· 1 year ago
Great story: Your mom is running for President, you make the choice to go out there and campaign for her and you don't expect anyone to ever ask about Monica? Then too, when the Hillary supporter asks a legitimate question, you respond like a childish, little bitch that it's "none of his business". Some advice for Chelsea: personal is personal until it affects other Americans. Your father's affair with Monica Lewinsky made for a huge distraction for within country. How your mother handled that affair can impact those wondering if she really has the strength to one day be President. In other words, if you can't deal with Monica queries while stumping for your mom, than stay the hell home.
Great story: Your mom is running for President, you make the choice to go out there and campaign for her and you don't expect anyone to ever ask about Monica?
Not a great story -- just an old one -- and totally off-topic. Please try to keep up. Ask one of the attendants to help you.
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
McCain is the lobbyists' candidate. No surprise there.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Now if we could only get Penn to choose Obama over McCain.
If I were Obama, I wouldn't want Penn endorsing me! I'd like to see Penn go to work for McCain! He could do for him what he has done for her. Destroys from within.
theWalrus
· 1 year ago
"HAMMOND, Indiana (Reuters) - Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton on Friday vowed to stay in the White House race, rejecting a fellow senator's suggestion that she pull out to improve their party's chances in November. "
That sound you hear is the sound of progressive blogger commenters heads exploding.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
i kant tipe! mi hed sploded!
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
meep-meep! :-)
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Nigel :)
My new picture is dedicated to hillary. She needs help and every attempt she makes to catch Obama blows up in her face :)
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Luna,
Hillary must be using those ACME products. :-)
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
I see her putting on those ACME rocket powered rollerskates and going right off a cliff. :)
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Luna,
And Obama is the Road Runner. meep-meep! :-)
theWalrus
· 1 year ago
"Your father's affair with Monica Lewinsky made for a huge distraction for within country."
I would say it this way:
"The rightwings obsession with your father's affair with Monica Lewinsky made for a huge distraction for within country."
momby
· 1 year ago
I agree with Luna and Mirth...keep Penn away from Obama.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Momby, Penn is political poison. The anti-Midas touch. We should raise money to pay him to go work for McCain.
EdSikov
· 1 year ago
"Now if we could only get Penn to choose Obama over McCain."
Godzilla's endorsement would be preferable. Mothra's, too.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
"Top Washington lobbyist Charlie Black is leaving his firm to join Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) presidential campaign."
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interesting... I guess political views don't really mean anything to lobbyists.
its all about the money...
charlie black: "what? mccain wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years?? no problem. well..... wait a minute, he's still going to pay me more than Penn right? cool, no problem then... bomb whomever you want, its all good."
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Mark Penn has so many Republican run companies along with their associates that it makes me wonder why the media hasn't made more out of that aspect of this man's "drive".
Mark Penn must be the most charming guy in the world. He looks like jabba the hut, every time he opens his mouth on one of his conference calls he shows what a fucking idiot he is and he is ill tempered.
But.. for some reason Shillary has decided to give him $1 of every $3 she raises.
tommccaslin
· 1 year ago
Charlie Black's defection only goes to show the type of scum that Hillary attracts to her campaign. They have no real principles or heartfelt values but instead are just out for a buck. Look closely at the people who support Shillary and you see a who's who of degenerate, amoral, opportunists - Karl Rove fits right in.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
Okay... its Martini time.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
I leave you with a song dedicated to Bill Clinton... Bill? where ever you are, think about the lyrics a bit...
all my friends are married every Tom and Dick and Harry you must be strong to go it alone here's to the bachelors and the bowery bums and those who feel that they're the ones who are better off without a wife
I like to sleep until the crack of noon midnight howlin' at the moon goin' out when I wanto, comin' home when I please I don't have to ask permission if I want to go out fishing and I never have to ask for the keys
never been no Valentino had a girl who lived in Reno left me for a trumpet player didn't get me down he was wanted for assault though he said it weren't his fault well the coppers rode him right out of town
I like to sleep until the crack of noon midnight howlin' at the moon goin' out when I wanto, comin' home when I please I don't have to ask permission if I want to go out fishing and I never have to ask for the keys
selfish about my privacy as long as I can be with me we get along so well I can't believe I love to chew the fat with folks and listen to all your dirty jokes I'm so thankful for these friends I do receive
I like to sleep until the crack of noon midnight howlin' at the moon goin' out when I wanto, comin' home when I please I don't have to ask permission if I want to go out fishing and I never have to ask for the keys
grasshopper
· 1 year ago
The Clinton's have no core beliefs or values. By hiring a pollster as her chief strategist, Hillary proves her campaign has no message other than chasing after the latest public opinion based on focus groups and demographics.
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
grasshopper,
I wish I could give you five points for that comment. It's so true. She tried to triangulate voters but her campaign got tangled up instead.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Don't bogart it Mirth!
Well it's time for dinner and a movie here. Y'all have fun now y'hear?
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
That's right. She's Mirthie Bogart. :-)
shanobama
· 1 year ago
No! Obama doesnt want Penn either! yikes!
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
I've got a question for all those raving lunatic red blooded Bush Cheney free market capitalists out there. If the American taxpayer has to continuously bail out big business by just handing over billions from the federal government, doesn't that mean our system is no longer "FREE MARKET" or capitalist? If I remember correctly from high school civics classes, a government who makes the people support big business with their money is SOCIALIST or COMMUNIST. One more example of how the Bu$h regime has subverted our country.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
The new mantra from the Bu$h Communist/Socialist Dictators: "If you become too big, like Bear Stearns, you can't be allowed to fail... if you are a little peon then GO LIVE IN AN ALLEY DAMMIT and GIVE US YOUR DAMNED TAX DOLLARS and SHUT UP!"
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
One more message from Bu$h and Cheney: The American dollar makes a great alternative fuel for your fireplaces! Its the most inexpensive way to heat your home! Before its all over, Bu$h is going to make burning American dollars cheaper than paying for oil or electricity! HOORAY for Republicans!
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
cowboyneok,
I am using my US dollars for wallpaper like the Germans. :-)
Hillary better rein in Penn. He is behind all these lies she is telling, Tuzla and Ireland. This she does not need. Hillary is not stupid. Why did she let Penn talk her into telling these whoppers.
nicho
· 1 year ago
Nigel Elliott 8 minutes ago
Good question: Could John and Elizabeth Edwards be this calculating?
I'm not sure how you see this as "calculating." You could, I suppose, characterize it as petty or even bitter, if you wanted. On the other hand, Edwards doesn't have to endorse anyone, if he doesn't want to.
And I think Elizabeth Edwards has a beef. John Edwards was simply squeezed out of the presidential race by a corporate media that barely acknowledged his existence, while the media wet their pants every time Obama came into the room.
Personally, I don't pay two nanoseconds of attention to who "endorses" whom when I decide who to back .
Sage24
· 1 year ago
Keith Olbermann is off today, and Amy Roebuck (?) takes his place. There was this segment where Jonathan Alter says a high Democratic official indicated that they were trying to get Hillary interested in running for Spitzer's job. Apparently the Clintons are not interested.
bullitt
· 1 year ago
Black isn't stupid. When the Kool-Aid drinking Obama fans get their asses wiped in November, Black will have a job with President McCain. As a Democrat, I'm preparing myself for four more years of Republican rule. The Democrats are great for picking an oddball. Just wait until the real Obama is uncovered................gay brother, sister a crack head.................Dean and the boys and girls of the Democratic party fucked up.......................another FDR.....yea right!
nicho
· 1 year ago
There was this segment where Jonathan Alter says a high Democratic official indicated that they were trying to get Hillary interested in running for Spitzer's job.
Hillary only moved to New York because she calculated she could win the senate seat, which was a stepping stone to her coronation as president. She doesn't give a shit about New York or its people. They were merely pawns in her power game. She's be the senator from California -- or a number of other states -- had there been an opportunity for her to win there.
nicho
· 1 year ago
bullitt 0 minutes ago
Better trolls, John. We need better trolls. These bottom-of-the-barrel trolls are downright embarrassing.
GrantinHouston
· 1 year ago
BKSH also was hired to do damage control, public relations by Blackwater, the "mercenaries" doing our dirty work in Iraq, and Countrywide Financial, one of the mortgage bankers up their neck in bad subpime loans. So John McCain is in good hands here with Charlie Black doing damage control.
green2
· 1 year ago
hillary will lose and you guys will be happy....but you know what obama will too...i'd skip voting before 'd vote for some kid
Hangtown Danile
· 1 year ago
I dont know who to vote for. I can't vote for McCain because he is a lib and I cant vote for Hill or Big Love they are twice as bad!
Penn is a disgrace as a two-timing, unsuccessful, bitter, scrambling-for-traction, lying, lobbyist. Without him, Clinton would be further ahead in the polls AND those millions would have been spent on something more worthwhile than telephone calls to supporters.
Who wants a lead balloon when you are going fishing? Wrong tool and wrong job!
Sarah B.
· 1 year ago
Big Time Lobbyist Charlie Black is quitting Mark Penn for John McCain
I'm sure that Charlie Black made this difficult decision based on principle -- or would that be principal? ;) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sarah B.
· 1 year ago
Now if we could only get Penn to choose Obama over McCain.
I wouldn't want to see Mark Penn anywhere near Barack Obama!
Actually, Penn does seem to have the kiss of death on Hillary Clinton's campaign, and that's just fine with me. Who could ask for anything more?
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scottinsf
· 1 year ago
Imagine that. Who would've thunk it.
mirth
· 1 year ago
Oh Hell No on Penn getting anywhere near Obama.
mirth
· 1 year ago
Stopit, Nigel! You're making me ♥ you even more. I have to keep a clear head... Or toke up. One or the other, but there's no room for besottedness.
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Awww, Mirth....♥♥♥♥...tha thump...tha thump! :-)
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
One or the other, but there's no room for besottedness
There's alway room for besottedness! The night is young!
mirth
· 1 year ago
Nigel, I'm a smart cookie because I'm Irish. ;)
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Mirth,
you too? Geesh, I feel like I am at Guinness brewery. LOL
mirth
· 1 year ago
Luna, are you suggesting that since it's Friday and we're all tired and horny, we should, y'know, get it on here tonight?
hahaha
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
With a maniacal idiot running our government, we're all scared and horny, 24/7/366 ;-)
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Um...Maybe that will pull my husband away from the TV tonight. (wink)
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
meep-meep! Suffering Succotash! LOL
mirth
· 1 year ago
Oh! Ya, mon! Going back to get some more of that, Nigel. ^5
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
This has got to be unique in American politics. Obama is already a pop icon, and he's not even our nominee yet. Wow!
mirth
· 1 year ago
Nigel, it wasn't so long ago that the world stood with us. Remember their open arms and hearts after 9/11? I'm expecting to see some of that again come January '09. The King is dead! Long live the King!
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
In order for that to happen, America needs radical change to send a clear message to the world that the real America is back and reporting for duty. Obama is the best person to deliver that message to our allies, foes and the rest of the global community. ;-)
mirth
· 1 year ago
Amen, brother Nigel.
You gotta believe in something. I believe Obama will be FDR2 and, perhaps, even greater.
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Bill Clinton already realised Obama will eclipse his legacy. If Obama lives up to our expectation, he will be up there with the likes of Abraham (notice he also had a semitic name) Lincoln, FDR and JFK. Yes, he can! :-)
mirth
· 1 year ago
I'm willing to go on faith.
YES HE CAN!
President Barack Hussein Obama
aka
Big Love
:)
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Mirth,
those kinds words must have been inspired by some kind bud, eh? hehe :-)
mirth
· 1 year ago
Nope, it's the mirthiness. Sometimes it gets away from me. But a bowl awaits. ;-)
mirth
· 1 year ago
Silly people.
A tall and tan and uber-fine someone just brought a pizza and he's staying to share it with me. .
See y'all later.
maybe...
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
mirth,
is "pizza" code word for something else? hehe :-)
Have fun. It's Friday! :-)
mirth
· 1 year ago
I suspect ol' Hill&Bill are putting the meme forward that she stays in the race because they hope for more donations to pay off campaign debts. I understand those are piling up. :)
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
mirth,
Nice hypothesis! You sure are one smart cookie. :-)
All Comments
http://politikditto.blogspot.com/2008/03/chelse...
Great story: Your mom is running for President, you make the choice to go out there and campaign for her and you don't expect anyone to ever ask about Monica?
Not a great story -- just an old one -- and totally off-topic. Please try to keep up. Ask one of the attendants to help you.
If I were Obama, I wouldn't want Penn endorsing me! I'd like to see Penn go to work for McCain! He could do for him what he has done for her. Destroys from within.
That sound you hear is the sound of progressive blogger commenters heads exploding.
My new picture is dedicated to hillary. She needs help and every attempt she makes to catch Obama blows up in her face :)
Hillary must be using those ACME products. :-)
And Obama is the Road Runner. meep-meep! :-)
I would say it this way:
"The rightwings obsession with your father's affair with Monica Lewinsky made for a huge distraction for within country."
Godzilla's endorsement would be preferable. Mothra's, too.
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interesting... I guess political views don't really mean anything to lobbyists.
its all about the money...
charlie black: "what? mccain wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years?? no problem. well..... wait a minute, he's still going to pay me more than Penn right? cool, no problem then... bomb whomever you want, its all good."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/28/173012/...
toke on this:-)
Obama's Worldbeat
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/28/19412/6...
But.. for some reason Shillary has decided to give him $1 of every $3 she raises.
all my friends are married
every Tom and Dick and Harry
you must be strong
to go it alone
here's to the bachelors
and the bowery bums
and those who feel that they're the ones
who are better off without a wife
I like to sleep until the crack of noon
midnight howlin' at the moon
goin' out when I wanto, comin' home when I please
I don't have to ask permission
if I want to go out fishing
and I never have to ask for the keys
never been no Valentino
had a girl who lived in Reno
left me for a trumpet player
didn't get me down
he was wanted for assault
though he said it weren't his fault
well the coppers rode him right
out of town
I like to sleep until the crack of noon
midnight howlin' at the moon
goin' out when I wanto, comin' home when I please
I don't have to ask permission
if I want to go out fishing
and I never have to ask for the keys
selfish about my privacy
as long as I can be with me
we get along so well I can't believe
I love to chew the fat with folks
and listen to all your dirty jokes
I'm so thankful for these friends
I do receive
I like to sleep until the crack of noon
midnight howlin' at the moon
goin' out when I wanto, comin' home when I please
I don't have to ask permission
if I want to go out fishing
and I never have to ask for the keys
I wish I could give you five points for that comment. It's so true. She tried to triangulate voters but her campaign got tangled up instead.
Well it's time for dinner and a movie here. Y'all have fun now y'hear?
I am using my US dollars for wallpaper like the Germans. :-)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/28/195134/...
Good question: Could John and Elizabeth Edwards be this calculating?
I'm not sure how you see this as "calculating." You could, I suppose, characterize it as petty or even bitter, if you wanted. On the other hand, Edwards doesn't have to endorse anyone, if he doesn't want to.
And I think Elizabeth Edwards has a beef. John Edwards was simply squeezed out of the presidential race by a corporate media that barely acknowledged his existence, while the media wet their pants every time Obama came into the room.
Personally, I don't pay two nanoseconds of attention to who "endorses" whom when I decide who to back .
There was this segment where Jonathan Alter says a high Democratic official indicated that they were trying to get Hillary interested in running for Spitzer's job.
Apparently the Clintons are not interested.
Hillary only moved to New York because she calculated she could win the senate seat, which was a stepping stone to her coronation as president. She doesn't give a shit about New York or its people. They were merely pawns in her power game. She's be the senator from California -- or a number of other states -- had there been an opportunity for her to win there.
Better trolls, John. We need better trolls. These bottom-of-the-barrel trolls are downright embarrassing.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/u0QNfKq8.jpg
<img src='http://thumbsnap.com/t/u0QNfKq8.jpg' alt='Free Image hosting by ImageSnap' />
Penn is a disgrace as a two-timing, unsuccessful, bitter, scrambling-for-traction, lying, lobbyist. Without him, Clinton would be further ahead in the polls AND those millions would have been spent on something more worthwhile than telephone calls to supporters.
Who wants a lead balloon when you are going fishing? Wrong tool and wrong job!
I'm sure that Charlie Black made this difficult decision based on principle -- or would that be principal?
;)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I wouldn't want to see Mark Penn anywhere near Barack Obama!
Actually, Penn does seem to have the kiss of death on Hillary Clinton's campaign, and that's just fine with me. Who could ask for anything more?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You're making me ♥ you even more.
I have to keep a clear head...
Or toke up.
One or the other, but there's no room for besottedness.
There's alway room for besottedness! The night is young!
you too? Geesh, I feel like I am at Guinness brewery. LOL
hahaha
(wink)
Going back to get some more of that, Nigel.
^5
The King is dead!
Long live the King!
You gotta believe in something. I believe Obama will be FDR2 and, perhaps, even greater.
YES HE CAN!
President Barack Hussein Obama
aka
Big Love
:)
those kinds words must have been inspired by some kind bud, eh? hehe :-)
But a bowl awaits.
;-)
A tall and tan and uber-fine someone just brought a pizza and he's staying to share it with me. .
See y'all later.
maybe...
is "pizza" code word for something else? hehe :-)
Have fun. It's Friday! :-)
Nice hypothesis! You sure are one smart cookie. :-)