AMERICAblog: Bill Clinton: Hillary would be the nominee if she were in the Republican primary, or something equally idiotic
scooter in brooklyn
· 1 year ago
if i had wings i could fly.
scooter in brooklyn
· 1 year ago
really, the clintons need to shut up and go away already. june 3 can't come soon enough.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Does this mean you and hillary will join the republican party once she loses the nomination Bill? I sure hope so, you are no longer wanted in the Democratic Party!!!
hopelesspedant
· 1 year ago
So basically Bill is saying he's fine with Bush winning in 2000 despite trailing Al Gore in the popular vote.
Ohhh-kayyyyy...
Smarmy
· 1 year ago
Sour grapes go well with his whine.
None of them realize how fatigued we are with the Clintons and Bushes. No more, ever again.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
If O's hand tails they'd be Qs
hopelesspedant
· 1 year ago
Also a bunch of the states McCain won (Calfornia, Texas for example) were not winner take all, so his comment doesn't even hold true on their own terms.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Democrats are about all of the people. Republicans are about the self-selected VIP people. Bill's right, Hillary's a Republican.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
And if the Republicans had the Democrats system, they'd have some fabulous parties.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Bill just loves him some republican ways of doing things. Take that (D) off the end of your name already and go join with those you feel more at home with!
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Bill is getting senile early. Will somebody, anybody, please get him a bag of Big Macs?
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
"If we were under the Republican system,"
He wouldn't of been President. Correct?
jr
· 1 year ago
"the blacks get to coast through life"-Bill Clinton
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Well, so now it's the system as an excuse for Hillary, funny but it seemed just fine when Bill was elected by the same process TWICE. Didin't hear him complaining then
Sage24
· 1 year ago
Hillary seems to be a Democrat in name only. Surely here tactics are those of a republican. She has embraced conservatives like Murdoch, Limbaugh and Schaife, people who detest the Clintons, and have attacked them over the years. Just like McCain, who after being attacked by the right wingers, and the religious right, embraced and kissed up to them, Hillary has no shame, nor any self respect.
She is even worse than Lieberman, in my opinion. The fact that her Democratic supporters are okay with the very same Rovian tactics we detested, is unbelievable. They seem okay with her Iraq vote too. What does that say about them?
fl79tr
· 1 year ago
EXACTLY! SAGE 24 I think you just coined a new phrase DINO as in Democrat In Name Only hopefully they'll go the way of other Dinos like Dixiecrat-ceratops truly a species of terrible lizard (brained fossils)
mike31c
· 1 year ago
Um, Bill? Loved ya as President but remember just one thing... YOU and your wife are Democrats, running under the Democratic Party. At least I think you are... Therefore the rules of the DNC apply and not what the rules the repulsive repukes use.
claudew
· 1 year ago
Is Hillary going to renounce and reject Gov. Rendell's support now that this video of him heaping lavish praise on Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam has surfaced?
steve303
· 1 year ago
Yes, and if we had a hereditary monarchy she would still be president -- as she would have poisoned you (Bill) in your sleep.
. . . jackass
ChicagoKid
· 1 year ago
during the debate shrillary was talking about Louis Farrakhan's friend Ed Rendell, not Obama!
LynnDee
· 1 year ago
Has anyone looked at how Bill Clinton would've fared under a winner-take-all, "more like the electoral college" allocation of delegates in the Democratic primaries?
Chris From Maine
· 1 year ago
she belongs in the Republican primary.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Hmm, I love this from Michael Moore's piece: "...I guess the debate last week was the final straw. I've watched Senator Clinton and her husband play this game of appealing to the worst side of white people, but last Wednesday, when she hurled the name "Farrakhan" out of nowhere, well that's when the silly season came to an early end for me. She said the "F" word to scare white people, pure and simple. Of course, Obama has no connection to Farrakhan. But, according to Senator Clinton, Obama's pastor does -- AND the "church bulletin" once included a Los Angeles Times op-ed from some guy with Hamas! No, not the church bulletin!
"This sleazy attempt to smear Obama was brilliantly explained the following night by Stephen Colbert. He pointed out that if Obama is supported by Ted Kennedy, who is Catholic, and the Catholic Church is led by a Pope who was in the Hitler Youth, that can mean only one thing: OBAMA LOVES HITLER! "
sweetauntfanny
· 1 year ago
Gee, there's a lot of appreciation for things Republican all of a sudden. Their primary system, their lobbyists, their fear style ads, etc. Anybody still think Hill and Bill really care about the party they're asking to support them? And anyone remember when it was the Republicans who used to accuse their opponents of the very thing they were doing? Please, Pennsylvania, end the madness.
ndtovent
· 1 year ago
So true, John, however, I don't like the superdelegate system either, and I think it should be sh*tcanned after the 08 election. We dems need to come up with a better solution/system.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Thank goodness NC isn't falling for the Clinton bullshit. Obama has it wrapped up. NC also has 115 delegates...even if Clinton wins PA and IN (and that one is dubious), she still won't have enough elected delegates. And she doesn't have enough money to bribe the supers...
Cora
· 1 year ago
Yes, it would be equally idiotic if HRC was the nominee, equal to George W. Bush being President.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Under the Republican primary system the winner is determined so early on to show unity that many Republican voters are in effect disenfranchised. This happened with McCain and Bush's first term. As an Oregonian, I like our system this year when my vote will actually matter although I agree with others here that the party needs to go back to the drawing board for the next primary in 2012. Something that needs to be dealt with promptly is rooting out Republican moles in the party (DLC and Clintons) and safeguards against the Republicans playing with our heads. Of course by then I fully expect Karl Rove to be behind bars.
interlude
· 1 year ago
The Clintons are once again gaming the system. Everyone - even Hillary - knew the rules of this game when the primary season started. It wasn't winner take all, it was proportional voting, it included caucuses, and had nothing to do with the electoral college.
If the rules were different at the start, and the democrats had the republican type of primary, Obama would've employed a different strategy and would have defeated Clinton that way.
Seems to me that any good commander-in-chief would think things through and deploy a strategy that worked well. Is the way Hillary has run her campaign any indication of her skills as commander-in-chief? She has run her campaign somewhat like Bush has run the occupation and colonization of Iraq.
Bill? Hillary? Turn out the lights when you leave. (I hear the GOP may be looking for a V-P candidate)
WorkinJoe
· 1 year ago
And if the general election in 2000 had been run like the Democratic primary, Gore would have been president. The Dems don't have a nominee because they chose a system that prevents a nominee? Actually, the only thing that throws the Dem primary out of kilter is the high percentage of super delegates. Without the super delegates, the way the Dems do it is fairer. Winner take all when the victory is by a percent or two rules out the votes of the losing side. Under the Dem format, my vote for the losing candidate still provides some gain for that candidate. Under the Electoral College / Repub primary style, a candidate can win several small to mid-size states convincingly and lose one large state by a point or two and subsequently trail in electoral votes / delegates. That's less fair.
KISSman
· 1 year ago
The Clintons are just slimey.
If they could, they would change any existing rule that would give them a victory. Let's scrap the delegate system and make it on popular vote. Let's let every state break the rules and let them all count. Let's got to the Republican system because the one that Bill Clinton successfully went through apparently doesn't work right anymore.
These two act like two big babies who are always complaining about how all the existing rules -- the ones that they didn't complain about until they fell behind -- screw them. It's a joke.
BatGuano
· 1 year ago
Okay, who hid the rules for all this from the Clintons? Who?
If only they had some way to find out what the rules were going to be in advance of this race...
SociologistTina
· 1 year ago
LOL! That's a good one!
Hangtown Danile
· 1 year ago
Bill is getting senile early. Will somebody, anybody, please get him a bag of Big Macs?
Accualy its the Siphillus it has done brain damage this time!
I sure hope so, you are no longer wanted in the Democratic Party!!!
Ohhh-kayyyyy...
None of them realize how fatigued we are with the Clintons and Bushes. No more, ever again.
He wouldn't of been President.
Correct?
Just like McCain, who after being attacked by the right wingers, and the religious right, embraced and kissed up to them, Hillary has no shame, nor any self respect.
She is even worse than Lieberman, in my opinion. The fact that her Democratic supporters are okay with the very same Rovian tactics we detested, is unbelievable. They seem okay with her Iraq vote too.
What does that say about them?
I think you just coined a new phrase DINO as in Democrat In Name Only hopefully they'll go the way of other Dinos like Dixiecrat-ceratops truly a species of terrible lizard (brained fossils)
. . . jackass
"This sleazy attempt to smear Obama was brilliantly explained the following night by Stephen Colbert. He pointed out that if Obama is supported by Ted Kennedy, who is Catholic, and the Catholic Church is led by a Pope who was in the Hitler Youth, that can mean only one thing: OBAMA LOVES HITLER! "
If the rules were different at the start, and the democrats had the republican type of primary, Obama would've employed a different strategy and would have defeated Clinton that way.
Seems to me that any good commander-in-chief would think things through and deploy a strategy that worked well. Is the way Hillary has run her campaign any indication of her skills as commander-in-chief? She has run her campaign somewhat like Bush has run the occupation and colonization of Iraq.
Bill? Hillary? Turn out the lights when you leave. (I hear the GOP may be looking for a V-P candidate)
If they could, they would change any existing rule that would give them a victory. Let's scrap the delegate system and make it on popular vote. Let's let every state break the rules and let them all count. Let's got to the Republican system because the one that Bill Clinton successfully went through apparently doesn't work right anymore.
These two act like two big babies who are always complaining about how all the existing rules -- the ones that they didn't complain about until they fell behind -- screw them. It's a joke.
If only they had some way to find out what the rules were going to be in advance of this race...
Accualy its the Siphillus it has done brain damage this time!