DISQUS

vwcat · 1 year ago

John, do you honestly think Obama needs Bill. As i recall the man has no coattails and since Obama now controls the party, I don't think Bill has much room to throw his tantrum.
I read that even Hillary has lost alot of power in the past few weeks.
I am hoping Obama doesn't try to sooth the baby's feelings and instead let's him know who exactly is in charge now.
Besides, Bill is going around telling people that obama cannot win in November. bill thinks he is the only person who can win the presidency in the dem party.
The man's ego is monumental. He doesn't realize his era is over and it's a new era.

hawkseye · 1 year ago

Hillary has very little power left or she could easily raise the money she needs from her eighteen million followers. One or two bucks each would do it.

blackwolf · 1 year ago

Bingo! She has no power. That's pathetic, one or two bucks.

vwcat · 1 year ago

Huffington Post had an article on how little power Hillary has. It has all drained out in the last month and the power is now with Obama.
The news keeps making it sound like the Clintons have power and this may be because they don't know anything. But, in reality, Obama slayed the Clintons and drained out their 20 year hold on the democrats and the power they had on the party. most democrats did not care for the Clintons. They feared them.
That was why when Obama went into the House of rep. about a month ago after SC and indiana so many democrats flocked to him. They saw him not only as a giant killer but, someone who freed the party from the Clintons.
And that is why Bill is really pouting. He no longer controls things and lost his power as well.
I suppose I'd pout too if I was the king for 20 years and suddenly it was taken away from me and I couldn't do a damn thing about it. And was dependent on the new guy for money! lol.
diane
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naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago

The only power they have right now is to cause trouble which apparently Bill is doing. The whole Democratic Party is ass-kissing the Clintons right now, but I hope as we go into July, Obama making his foreign tour and naming a vice presidential nominee, the media will no longer find the Clintons newsworthy and the voters will see more and more how we dodged a bullet by defeating Hillary.

vwcat · 1 year ago

That is why I was so excited about Obama going overseas. Someone on daily kos wrote a diary about how the media has an addiction to the Clintons. Some have said that the media loves to gossip about them more than anything else.
The clintons have provided the media with countless stories with their traveling circus and without them the media is having a hard time dealing with it.
Hence all the stories dwelling on Bill's pouting and the PUMAs. It keeps the stories alive and the Clintons in the spotlight for them
With the vp selection and the overseas trip they will be distracted enough.
And then, they won't need that addiction fixed. lol.
diane
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Busboy · 1 year ago

Truly, this is the "red meat" of the day. Bill is out of control and needs to be sequestered like carbon in a Brita water filter until the election is over.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Doesn't Bubba have an intern to do that?

tbhull · 1 year ago

Bill needs to calm down or his heart will explode.

tbhull · 1 year ago

His redneck/poor whit trash blood is starting to break through the surface.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

I thought he showed that when he took a bunch a furniture out of the White House on his way out the door.

(Well, Monica was a pretty white trashy episode too.)

tbhull · 1 year ago

You are correct.

Retry:

His redneck/poor whit trash blood is starting to break through the surface, again.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Red State Update on the Obama/Hillary/Bill triangle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zap68ZqBtgk&feat...

tbhull · 1 year ago

I bet Obama cannot wait to daily view Bill's e-mails when he becomes president.

mamazboy · 1 year ago

Ha! That would be a moment.

Cethis · 1 year ago

What a sore loser. After the smear campaign the Clinton's ran, Obama has shown a lot of class by donating to retire her debt. President Clinton just shows that he only cares for himself.

hopelesspedant · 1 year ago

So we are now taking the unsourced word of a rabidly right wing UK newspaper with a history for unsubstantiated stories about Democrats - yes, that's the Daily Telegraph - just because it parallels our own worse fears?

This is just as likely to be a plant from Karl Rove- he has a history of leaking stories to the Telegraph as the most "legitimate" of the ideologically conservative UK papers. It is the most neo-con dominated paper in Britain.

I'd wait until some more reliable source verifies this.

Meantime, repeating stuff like this hurts, rather than helps, get Sen Obama elected.

njprogressive · 1 year ago

I agree that it doesn't help him get elected, but I fail to see how it hurts Obama.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Yeah, it only hurts Obama if he's viewed as kissing Clinton ass.

(BTW: It might not be true but, in that case, it would be easy enough for Bubba to release a statement denying it.)

njprogressive · 1 year ago

True. While I don't want to see Obama going out of his way for Clinton's support (I don't think he needs it), I am more pissed at Obama's flip on the FISA bill. I am still finding that one tough to swallow. In fact I might even be choking on it.

njprogressive · 1 year ago

About the FISA thing, I know it doesn't have anything to do with the story at hand and I apologize, I just don't know why he is stepping back on this one. I mean, to me, besides the Iraq War, the overstep of power by the current administration and the trampling of the constitution is the big issue, and the FISA bills plays right into that. Really bothers me.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

I don't disagree with you.

Obama's always been a pragmatist--maybe too much of a pragmatist.

I just figure we're going to have to work extra hard to get a progressive congress to push Obama in the right direction if he gets in the White House.

njprogressive · 1 year ago

I agree completely. I was extremely happy to see both NJ senators as well as my congressman voting against the FISA compromise. We just need more.

hawkseye · 1 year ago

Pragmatism.

Just my thoughts. Feel free to disagree:

See John Dean's remarks on the sloppy writing of the FISA bill. Sounds like, once in office, Obama's AG could pursue lawsuits if he so chose.

It's going to depend on how much political capital Obama has to spend, in my opinion, on something like this.

SouthernYankee · 1 year ago

On Monday on Countdown with Keith O. he will be doing a special comment on the FISA bill. I think you will be pleased with what he has to say. The telcomp can still be hurt by this bill. I called Obama's office and let them know I wasn't pleased and I wanted them to block this bill. Keith O explained it that it will not prevent them from going after the telecom cos.

njprogressive · 1 year ago

If you think that the democrats will be able to go after the telecoms through some loophole in the bill you are kidding yourself. Even Feingold knows that this is it and has said so on many occasions. No courtroom in the country will hear a case against the telecoms if they have a signed piece of paper from our congress that says immunity. You can think that Obama and Keith O have some hidden miracle up their sleeves. I remain living in the real world.

SouthernYankee · 1 year ago

Well have you bothered to call your senators and let them know how you feel. I called Obama, Reid, Hyer, and Pelosi offices and told them that I think they need to block the bill. If everyone called their senators maybe they would get the point. Saying that just wait and watch the report on Monday. Than make your decision accordingly.

hopelesspedant · 1 year ago

Issuing a denial to a quote from unnamed sources in a newspaper known for being a source for Karl Rove dirty tricks is a non-starter.

You can see how smart the Karl Roves of the world are - they figured out because it is a London newspaper with a name like the Telegraph, they can feed it a story, respectable blogs like this repeat it as if it is verified, Dems fight among themselves, John McCain benefits.

We really need to get a lot smarter if we are going to win.

Mark Steyn - one of the major neo-con architects - until recently was one of their top columnists, They were the supposedly legitimate source for much of lies leading up to the Iraq invasion. Yet progressives fall for this BS, and here we are, fighting among ourselves and assuming the worst about Bill Clinton.

Pathetic, and very dangerous.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Well, we see this differently.

I guess to some extent it depends on whether you think it's in Clinton's character to say something like that.

But people release denials of stories from anonymous sources all the time.

njprogressive · 1 year ago

The NY Times was used to plant Rove stories in also. Does that mean we can't trust them anymore... wait... they did hire Kristol... disregard previous comment.

johnosahon · 1 year ago

he should keep waiting for that kiss, because the old fart is irrelevant. its better he stays OFF Obama's campaign for our future.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Yeah, realistically, I don't think Obama wants Bubba doing too much campaigning for him.

Hillary sent him to backwoods towns toward the end of her run, because he kept going nuts when the big media were around.

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Not so shocking...this real elitism, like the royal family Bush's, is what turned many of us off.
And, of course, these mulligan-blessed and most favored boys get testy when the stacked deck doesn't quite fall totally their way much less lose like HRC's team that couldn't quite campaign straight.
Bill's character wasn't much in the beginning and isn't much now. With his legacy and popularity collapsing like a plaque-packed bureau chief the ex-president should hunker down, cruise cocktail bar happy hours and hope new illnesses generate increased public sympathy.

Andrew · 1 year ago

Poor old Bill. No longer needed or wanted. You might have played the last 12 months differently Bill, but your elitist air does leave a stench everywhere you go. It must suck not being on the inside but rather on the outside looking in as you watch the years and history pass you by. Must be tuff on the ego, but you dug your own grave in the publics eye and in the end, that's all that really matters. finally what looks like the end of the Bush/Clinton/Bush dynasty is coming to its rightful conclusion and none too soon.

Busboy · 1 year ago

Hey, stay tuned. Denial is not just a river in Egypt. Bill will have to deny. Then, maybe the source will come forward or be forced forward. Someone's going to lose their credibility.

Dumbo · 1 year ago

And now there is nothing left of him. I remember Digby posting about how we had to cut Bill and Hillary some slack, because, Bill was, ya know, our first eight year Democratic president in years, and our most successful one in a very long time, and we couldn't afford to lose a symbol like that.

Well that symbol just said, "Kiss my ass," to the next Democratic president. Fuck him. He has nothing left to stand on. A year ago, Bill Clinton was in line to be our own revered Democratic Mount Rushmore and Ronald Reagan combined. He has thrown that all away. For what?

here4tehbeer · 1 year ago

One would think "suck my d*ck" would have been the benchmark in this instance, but I doubt BHO would be caught donning a blue dress for anything short of a SNL skit (and even then not until well into his second term in the Oval).

Milli · 1 year ago

Loser

Andrew · 1 year ago

Dumbo......For people like Bill, it's their ego that usually does them in. For all intent and purpose, he's in crash and burn mode.

hopelesspedant · 1 year ago

Apart from this unsourced quote being a GOP dirty trick (see below), it could also be part of a carefully choreographed plan between the Obama campaign and the Clintons.

Think about it - look at all the pro-Obama press coverage that has happened since Sen. Clinton didn't concede on the last night of the primaries:

1) Major coverage of the Saturday formal withdrawal
2) Lots of coverage of minor events - the DC private meeting, the donors meeting last week
3) Major coverage of the NH event yesterday.

And still to come

4) Major coverage when Bill Clinton (as he certainly will) makes his first appearance with Obama.

Lots of coverage - meantime, McCain gets nothing. Who can he trot out to get anything like this? Lieberman? Sorry, old news. Bush? Cheney? Unclean, stay away.

And as a bonus - Obama is running in part on his executive management style and elevating himself to presidential status. By successfully handling both Clintons, he not only gets the benefit of their support, but also gets the benefit of looking like a leader.

This is why I refuse to be concerned about unconfirmed and possibly untrue nonsense like this.

ivyfree · 1 year ago

Good thought. My first thought, reading the article, is that it's all unsourced. I find it easy to believe that BC is angry that Hilary didn't get the nomination- after the way he humiliated her during his presidency, I believe he'd have a compulsion to be extra-supportive. That doesn't add up to saying that Obama'd have to kiss his ass. It's possible he's said that he'd want Obama to make the first approach and some subordinate creatively reinterpreted it.

It might be true. But I question it.

But Bill's not stupid. If he even remotely thinks Hilary has a shot at another run- and I don't think she has, I think her time has come and gone- he knows he'd have to maintain his connections. She'd need Obama, and there's no point in making him angry. And Obama's smart enough to know it's politics. At some point, you put aside your personal feelings and go for it.

The other thing is that Obama, as President, will need Bill Clinton. Somebody along the thread wrote that BC thinks of himself as a rock star. That wouldn't be surprising. BC has got major positive approval ratings around the world. People love him. That has the possibility to be very helpful to Obama in the future. I don't know how, and maybe Obama doesn't, but you stay friendly with people who have lots of influence. It comes under the heading of not burning your bridges.

I expect that BC is going to be very helpful in Obama's campaign in the future. He's too smart not to be.

questionauthority · 1 year ago

I may not be a national political strategist; however in my view, now that last Fridays 'Unity' event is behind us, the Clinton's are now technically sidelined.
The Clinton's are the past, Obama is the future; it's that simple! The Clinton's just have to dramatize everything right to the end. Thank goodness we're past all that now with No Drama-Obama!

Bill might do well to remember; he most likely needs Obama to help retire Hillary's $22M debt, than Obama needs them. I also might be reaching here, but; I wouldn't be surprised if there might still be a little tension in the Clinton household over the Monica spectacle. I'm thinking that getting Hillary elected was maybe supposed to be final vindication for Bill. Now he has to be at home with Hillary and hear about it for the rest of his days "If you only hadn't of..." or whatever. So perhaps Bill is really bitter with himself and projecting onto Barack.

Then again maybe I just don't have enough to do on a Saturday night... OBAMA, OH EIGHT, OR ELSE!

hopelesspedant · 1 year ago

And or even more important - he wants to be a player in the Obama administration. If indeed he is being difficult at the moment (which again I believe is not out of the question, but also could be greatly exaggerated), as soon as he thinks (if he doesn't already) that Obama could win, he will be veru eager to be seen as a staunch supporter.

This also benefits Hillary and her future - she is likely to more than ever be seen as a separate person, and increasingly the more important of the two,

SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago

Barrack and Bill should just do this and get it over with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP5ByTTZuDQ

Busboy · 1 year ago

I guess I'm a Pete re-Pete. Bill lost millions and maybe a good part of a billion by Hillary being defeated. Hell, yeah, he's pissed. Why did you think he was golfing with Daddy Bush like a favorite son? If he can't get Hillary in as vp material? He's screwed. His latest revealed comments probably mean that Hillary will not be the vp designate. Then it means that all the payola from the middle east oil and pipeline payoffs will be cycled thru the Chicago machine. He's screwed, blued and tatooed.

SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago

Cocaine running makes strange bedfellows.


she don't lie
she don't lie
she don't lie

cocaine

mamazboy · 1 year ago

Thanks for the reminder of J.J. Cale's masterpiece.

Clinton is insane and should be kicked into detox or ignored.

Hangtown Danile · 1 year ago

He's screwed, blued and tatooed.
Were you in the Navy?
Or have family in the navy like one of your kids?
screwed, blued and tatooed is after all a navy term...

Busboy · 1 year ago

It was a common saying in the south in the 60's, Dano. Didn't know it was Navy.

Hangtown Danile · 1 year ago

I was born in 69' so I had no idea. We used to use it in the Navy in refrence to takeing somebody new out in a place like Hong Kong or Tyland for the first time. "We are going to get that cherry boy blued screwed and tattooed..."
And there was my other favorit term. The four S's: Shit shower shave and shine my shoes"
What you need to take care of before you go get blued, screwed and tattooed. :>)

"For a price I will do almost anything, except pull the trigger, for that I need a really good cause." Operation Mindcrime

Busboy · 1 year ago

That's funny, Dano. Never heard of the 4 "s's" before

KISSman · 1 year ago

Bill is insane. Barack Obama does not need Bill Clinton to win the election. Not even a little bit. Arguably, Obama may need Hillary's help, but he sure as sh*t don't need Bill Clinton's help at all.

Personally, I'm glad we all got a chance to see the REAL Bill Clinton in this election cycle. We got to see how the most important living Democrat could be the most divisive, un-unifying person in the party. He permanently tarnished his own legacy and will no longer walk on water in many people's eyes. He even managed to un-become "The First Black President" in the process.

How embarassing must if have been to be the most popular figure in American politics and to be purposely sent to small towns and places where the national spotlight would be off of him because he became a detrament to his wife's campaign. Hahahaha!

blackwolf · 1 year ago

That label of being the firs black president was given to him by Toni Morrison. She reasoned that he should have certainly understood the black cause, whatever that is...lolll....due to all the sh*t he had to go through.

Bill was never down with the cause, and his tanntrums really show what he's always been about.

unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago

God, I hope he didn't mention what shade that ass was!

unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago

'Remember the Maine' McCain Has his senior moments,
'Big Dog' Bill has his adolescent ones.

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

Good cop = Hillary
Bad cop = Bill "A second source said that the former president has kept his distance because he still does not believe Mr Obama can win the election. "

Hillary wanted to be President but she can't get her man "in line?" If HIllary can't make her man shut up then what kind of President would she have been? Who would have been in charge? The Clintons are proving our point she had no business running unless she could keep Bill in line. Obviously, she can't, or she is unwilling.

Until Bill gets in line then its obvious they want an Obama defeat so Hillary can run again in 2012. They are willing to put our nation in the hands of Bush's third term to get their way. Its sad, really. I used to respect Bill Clinton. I didn't realize a man with his intellect could turn out to be so childish.

hawkseye · 1 year ago

Yes, and what the primary shows me, in retrospect, is that Hillary does what Bill says and that he would be the pupeteer if she were to run.
I also think he has physical problems and probably isn't getting enough oxygen to his brain.

hawkseye · 1 year ago

that is, if she were to run and win

Captain_America · 1 year ago

Wow, I think Bill has really lost it. He just keeps digging himself deeper and deeper into a pile of his own shit with no end in sight. If he wants to redeem any part of his "legacy" he could start by acting like an ex-president and not a 12-year old with a tantrum. Unbelievable, Bill! I used to love ya, but you really are disappointing right now, as you have been throughout the primaries.

SouthernYankee · 1 year ago

Maybe they can name a sewage plant after Bill too.

catty · 1 year ago

If you name anything after Bill ,it has to be a brothel,I mean chicken house.
He is a poor excuse for a former president.

SouthernYankee · 1 year ago

NA TO MANY GUYS WOULD LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW THE GREATEST LITTLE WHORE HOUSE KIND OF A THING. (HAAAA) THE SEWER IS A LOT BETTER. WE GOT SHIT FROM BUSH AND CLINTON. ENOUGH SAID.

moron · 1 year ago

Bill Clinton:

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

That mean mean bwack man huwt my feewings! Me want wife be pwesident!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Butch1 · 1 year ago

Bill Clinton has turned into the biggest jerk. Obama does not need him especially if he is going to act like an ass just because Obama won the nomination. Obama should completely ignore him and go on to win the presidency. If I were Obama, I would leave Clinton out of any cabinet position or ambassador post. He doesn't deserve any kindness from Obama after the way he's treated him. I have lost what respect I had for Clinton, he's a fraud and his temper tantrum will not win him any friends in the democratic party. He needs to go sit in a corner until he can play well with others.

hawkseye · 1 year ago

Yes, Bill has a compulsion to upstage, and Obama doesn't need that. The press would encourage Bill in those damaging efforts, too.

catty · 1 year ago

That whole outfit branded Clinton is a joke.They weren't served well by the people they paid. Bill is giving a lot of people reason to reevaluate the Bill they thought they knew,he's petty.Bill did more harm to Hillary's campaign next to mark Penn.Obama should keep him away,he will at this point only sabotage Obama.He's suppose to be over in London wishing Mandela well on his 90th,and not talking pot shots and talking trash to the rags.

SouthernYankee · 1 year ago

Your right catty. He was in London. He thinks he is a rock star. I think he has stayed on the stage to long. He needs to get off. What a cry baby. Billy go home.

unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago

Make a face like that for someone to photograph, you got to know they're going to use it against you. Shit,,,, a thousand words and all that! The article wrote itself, the rest of the article could be totally bogus.

catty · 1 year ago

What are you talking about? You don't make any sense.

Jim Olson · 1 year ago

Can't we just ignore them? Maybe they'll go away eventually.

unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago

OT but hopefully an improvement...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080629/ap_on_re_us...

SAN FRANCISCO - Move over Dykes on Bikes. Here come the brides — and grooms.

Given San Francisco's sizable role in initiating the lawsuits that led California's highest court to strike down the state's bans on same-sex marriage, the city's 38th annual gay pride festival and parade is likely to draw huge crowds this weekend, tourism officials say.

"It's really going to be a Pride like none other," said Joe D'Alessandro, president of the San Francisco Convention and Visitors Bureau. "I have never seen so many rainbow flags in this city, along Market Street, on shops, on homes. It's really a situation where the people are celebrating and the city is in a very festive mood."

unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago

Had I spent that much time with my Manchurian adviser programing the SOB, I'd like to see if the experiment worked.

Hanoi Hilton' jailer says he'd vote for McCain AP

By MARGIE MASON, Associated Press Writer Sat Jun 28, 2:23 AM ET

HAIPHONG, Vietnam - John McCain has an unusual endorsement — from the Vietnamese jailer who says he held him captive for about five years as a POW and now considers him a friend.


"If I were an American voter, I would vote for Mr. John McCain," Tran Trong Duyet said Friday, sitting in his living room in the northern city of Haiphong, surrounded by black-and-white photos of a much younger version of himself and former Vietnam War prisoners.

At the same time, he denies prisoners of war were tortured. Despite detailed POW accounts and physical wounds, Duyet claims the presumed Republican presidential nominee made up beatings and solitary confinement in an attempt to win votes.

Hangtown Danile · 1 year ago

God Money I'll do anything for you.
God Money just tell me what you want me to do.
Go Money nail me agenst the wall.
God Money dose not want everything he wants it all.
Head like a hole.
Black as your soul.
I'd rather die than to give you control!
Nine Inch Nails.

nsr · 1 year ago

No Bill, Obama won. He's the kiss-ee. You're the kiss-er. So get started.

LynnDee · 1 year ago

Quote: "A senior Democrat who worked for Mr Clinton has revealed that he recently told friends Mr Obama could "kiss my ass" in return for his support. "

Good grief. Maybe Bill Clinton will do a "kiss my ass" video, like Shaq did for Kobe.

HelenaMontana · 1 year ago

I think Bill Clinton is having a particularly obnoxious form of dementia. If Barack Obama, for whom I've lost a lot of respect over the past few weeks (Fisa, the Obama Imperial Seal, etc.) does kiss Bill Clinton's ass, I'm going to forget about holding my nose and voting for him because he's not McCain. I'll either stay home or vote for Bob Barr.

SouthernYankee · 1 year ago

Better Nader than Barr. He is more to the right than even god.

OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago

Actually, if this story is true (and there seems to be doubt), Clinton can kiss MY ass. Oh wait--he might like it too much. Just go away, BC. Nobody loves a sore loser.

BionicBlonde · 1 year ago

As we can see and read, there are many jerks to go around. I think all Dems need to get on board to make sure we have a super majority in January. I don't think we/you/they need to keep self-flagellating. I don't think the Repubs do this--or they mostly keep it to themselves. Even Ann the man Coulter has been quiet of late. Again, try to send the venom toward McCain.

Smarmy · 1 year ago

BOTH the Clintons are furious that Hillary didn't win the nomination. It violated their plans for the world and the country. She's publically seen with Obama because he's helping her pay off her debts! I think the party needs to distance themselves from these nasty Clintons. They look to be in a sabotaging and extorting mood.

Sage24 · 1 year ago

Losing the nomination, which they acted they were entitled to, must be a bitter pill to swallow. In this whole process, the Clintons lost their standing in the Democratic party. They really showed an ugly side, and it was not acceptable by many in the party. The least he could do now is to act gracious, and even pretend to want to help Obama. I guess he must resent this young guy, who seems to have upstaged him, but if he wants to play a part in politics, he has to act mature and not so petty.

SouthernYankee · 1 year ago

Kiss his ass hell. I bite it than kick and tell the bum to leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

jr · 1 year ago

we don't need these fossils like Clinton anymore. We have the blogs and progressive talk radio and great groups like Color of Change and Progressive States Network

Apphouse50 · 1 year ago

(Sigh) These two are so tiresome. I praise the heavens every morning that she didn't prevail this year.

michaelt · 1 year ago

f* the clintons. they need to go back to wha..........hey, this isn't Monday..

LanceThruster · 1 year ago

Well at least he didn't say that if Obama wants his support he can "suck my d*ck."

I also am glad that Hillary got bumped from the top slot. I felt disheartened that she was the presumptive nominee before the process even started.

DougStamate · 1 year ago

The whole report might be believable if all the sources weren't anonymous. It's really quite amazing how all these "supporters" of the Clintons are so willing to talk to reporters about things that, one presumes, if they were a real supporter of the Clintons, they would keep to themselves.

catty · 1 year ago

That's the problem with Bill sooo many people have gone out their way to kiss up to them,they think Obama NEEDS them.

People think the ONLY reason BIll is peeved with Obama,is because of this smoke screen,Obama won and Hillary lost.

Almost right,Bill needed Hillary's win,to payback favors that donated to his library.Now he just may have to return some of the money to his slimey friends.Obama,interfered with the people (friends of Bill,FOB) that were looking forward to plum appointments in washington.

OBAMA MESSED UP THE CLINTON MACHINE'S PLANS!

Milli · 1 year ago

Bill, Obama won't kiss your ass. Thats what you had Monica for.

catty · 1 year ago

Milli,good one~


I'm so tired of these two ego selfish people.They are old,petty and bitter.The people who voted for them reflect their attitude too,that's why they too can't let it go.

frizbeesf · 1 year ago

I can understand why Bill Clinton views an Obama candidacy as a Lose-Lose proposition.

For one, I would not be shocked if his own personal redemption with his relationship with his wife was closely tied to the success of her presidential bid.

Beyond that just think about it. If Obama wins, Bill Clinton loses stature. Former Democratic Presidents are fall less important if there is a current Democrat in the White House. And if Obama loses, then BIll Clinton loses both stature and relevance. As Obama's loss can be pinned on his less than full throated support.

For Bill Clinton, the November election is a loss for him either way.

WDemDem · 1 year ago

Funny, if you actually READ the article, it quotes an unnamed person saying "someone told me..." Give me a fucking break, rumor mongers.