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Or that inscribed on metal bracelets to be worn at all times, just in case.
GOP congressman Mike Pence gets schooled on the GOP's anti-science posturing by Chris Matthews on Hardball :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEuoevMRzgw
I don't trust anybody that doesn't believe in evolution. Especially Presidential candiates. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ88l5ql_FQ
EDIT: Went back and watched it. Mike used the word "obviate". Now I've heard obviate, twice in a month. Randy from My Name is Earl learned it from a 'word a day calendar'. Now I'm going to think of simpletons when I hear the word obviate. lol
They sprayed money into California for Prop 8.
and now we find out that OBAMA wasn't even President....and they messed around with his mother.
I give a shit on WHAT NEXT they plan to do.....or what will be EXPOSED NEXT!
Let's drag em out into the daylight and give everyone a good look at what they are all about!
PS I lived in Salt Lake City for three years, a long time ago, and knew many Mormons and Jack Mormons (ex-Mormons). Trust me on this- they have weirder beliefs even than this.
I haven't heard that term "Jack Mormons" before, interesting lingo.
Yes indeed; the best stories come from people who have insider information.
I was going to say, yes, you can only appreciate the insanity if you've been through it, but actually I think plenty of folks can tell the insanity just fine never having been through. I'm twelve years since I stopped attending church, and three since I officially sent my resignation letter in, and occasionally my brain re-adjusts just a little further and something I once found normal gets increasingly weirder.
Flood their phone banks. They are manned by LDS volunteers and missionaries. Give them an earful!
My dad hired a couple Mormons back in the early 80s to help him track family members. I'm afraid to look and see if they baptized his ancestors; of course, it might be amusing to watch the reaction from my fundie sisters who believe the LDS church is a cult.
Forget helping the poor
Forget feeding the hungry
Forget clothing the naked
Forget housing the homeless
Forget bettering yourself in order to be an example to others
Just dig up the obits and have at it......................
Someone should send this thread to Palin's witch doctor.
The fact that the Mormons chose to forcibly convert the deceased mother of the President of the United States, only months before he was elected to office, is relevant to our discussion of the Mormon influence in American politics today. There is a larger pattern of bigotry that should concern us all. Has anyone noticed how all of their victims are minorities? The mother of a black president? The forced conversion of Jewish Holocaust victims? The history of racial animus towards African-Americans (and blacks more generally)? And now the financing of religious right anti-gay hate?
If the Mormons want to promote hate back in their own state, that's their affair. When they export it to the world, steal our dead, and try to weasel their way into the Obama administration by pushing for a place at the table overseeing the Faith Based Initiative, among other ventures, it's all of our business.
Are they employing Mark Penn's firm?
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Maybe this is picky, but the Mormons distinctly say "... TEMPLE baptisms ..." I am not Mormon, nor ever have been, but I had a Mormon friend, who sent her son (at age 13) to stand in for dead people, during these baptisms. Even at the time (20 years ago) I found the whole idea creepy, bordering on child abuse. Anyway, this Mormon quote mentions TEMPLE baptisms. The one I heard about (in which my friend's son was involved) was NOT a temple. It was just a regular, Mormon "church" or whatever they call them. Where the average Mormon goes each Sunday. At that time, there was not a temple in Sacramento.
Maybe this is their way of telling the truth, while lying. i.e. Baptisms done IN THE TEMPLE must have permission, but not all baptisms?
If your friend's son was doing proxy baptisms (instead of being baptised on his own behalf) he probably made the trip to Oakland to participate in the temple there. Baptisms for the dead can only be performed inside a temple. (I did it at the ages of 12-15 and I didn't regard it as abusive. Not that it's not all totally weird once you get some distance, but abusive is a bit strong. )
This will be hard to understand to a person who is the servant of their physical appetites. But let me just say that true true freedom and happiness only comes when the appetites are kept within the limits God defines. Those limits allow the spirit and human will to govern and to be strengthened rather then end up the victim of an appetite. That is true freedom. Performing a proxy baptism is an opportunity even after death to find this true freedom.
AHHH....NO. Performing a "proxy baptism" is the height of religious arrogance.
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