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Speeches and platitudes devoid of action, world travel, escalation of wars, covering up and continuing war crimes, etc., etc., do NOT, imo, warrant a Nobel Peace Prize...
Then again, this 'honor' became a bad joke when Henry Kissinger got it, so who knows what they're thinking...
The Nobel Committee has made some bad choices in the past, and this is one of them. For the prize to mean anything to the Obama Administration, award it at the end of the administration, not at the beginning.
I think it is also ironic that the prize is given now, because of increasing troop levels in Afghanistan and playing hardball with Iran.
Nominations for the prize close on Feb. 1 so that means Obama was nominated less than 2 weeks after he took office.
So of course they did not base this on any "accomplishments" so I wonder what they did base it on?
I think the Republicans need to wake up, and see that if they get back in power, they need a steadier and more cautious approach to Foreign Policy, or rather not have a tag team of Cheney-Rumsfeld stiff arming the State Department.
Iraq is still a disaster, but the Obama Administration is still planning to withdraw troops by next year. Afghanistan is also sinking, but I don't see an open ended conflict with the Obama Administration.
The award may be granted in a couple years time, but this may backfire on the Nobel Committee.
As for ending the missile shield.....that is basically giving Obama credit for NOT doing something so is than an accomplishment?
China owns the majority of US debt so we will be dancing to their tune for years to come.
has agreed not to torture, no if, ands or buts. The crimes that
happened at Bagram AFB were under Rumsfeld, and many of them happened
either under policy shift with Rumsfeld, and/or right after the
invasion.
The missile shield was a delusion in the first place, it can't work
because the concept can be easily defeated.
China and the US have a much complex and nuance relationship than US
debt load, T-Bills and trade. It is still inter dependent.
Obama Administration Maintains Bush Position on 'Extraordinary Rendition' Lawsuit
The Obama Administration today announced that it would keep the same position as the Bush Administration in the lawsuit Mohamed et al v Jeppesen Dataplan, Inc.
A source inside of the Ninth U.S. District Court tells ABC News that a representative of the Justice Department stood up to say that its position hasn't changed, that new administration stands behind arguments that previous administration made, with no ambiguity at all. The DOJ lawyer said the entire subject matter remains a state secret.
This is not going to please civil libertarians and human rights activists who had hoped the Obama administration would allow the lawsuit to proceed.
The ACLU's Wizner said this:
We are shocked and deeply disappointed that the Justice Department has chosen to continue the Bush administration’s practice of dodging judicial scrutiny of extraordinary rendition and torture. This was an opportunity for the new administration to act on its condemnation of torture and rendition, but instead it has chosen to stay the course. Now we must hope that the court will assert its independence by rejecting the government’s false claims of state secrets and allowing the victims of torture and rendition their day in court.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/02/...
different than Administration policy or executive orders. The main
reason why torture should not be used is for one simple reason, it
doesn't work. The Obama Administration has pledge to follow the
Geneva Convention, and that is different than want to release
classified information.
Where are the locations of torture centers? who has been tortured
during the Obama Administraton?
The Obama Administration will have many black marks against them when
they finish office in 2013 or 2017, but I don't see top levels
approving torture as a way to get information as one of them.
This is why the Bush Administration was in some ways more stupid
than evil: Torture doesn't work. The Bush Administration not only
approve torture, but use the information to support their reasons.
I have one last word for you: Bagram.
is arguing some points in one legal case to Administration policy. I
know what went on at Bagram during the Bush Administration. I haven't
heard of detainees being beaten to death at Bagram as during this
current Administration than in the previous Bush Administration.
I do consider facts to my judgments, I may not agree with the Obama
Administration's position on Boumediene v. Bush, but that is not the
same as torture.
This is interesting...the President (for whom I voted) has been nothing but talk.
About the only action has been to escalate war and talk of more war!!
Good person to give a "Peace" award to, huh?
I wonder if he will call the GOP and get their approval before accepting.
Just one easy example is DADT, which he could have ended his first week in office and chose NOT to, no matter how often he said he would.
This is "premature"? Yep, and it's based on the assumption that he will do something.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/10/...
- filed a legal brief supporting Bush's arguments that Bagram detainees have no rights
- supported Israel's exemption from nuclear disclosure
- supported shelving a report on Israel's Gaza war
- relied on a 2001 congressional resolution to detain people indefinitely without charge
- allowed torture to continue at Guantanamo
- approved Afghanistan/Pakistan airstrikes that have killed more people in 9 months than in Bush's last year
- continued 2 wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
i can keep going you know.
A bogus award for bogus reasons. Jesus tittyfucking CHRIST. I feel like I've woken up in a parallel universe.
What's next, Pol Pot wins next year posthumously for his humanitarian efforts?
actual peace? not a chance. what a disgrace
My guess is he does not do that.
Obama wins award, today.
Past winners. TR, yes, even JC.
Obama prepares trip to accept.
Obama meets with past winners.
Obama at ceremony.
--- you get the drift
McCain would NOT be receiving the Nobel.
Remember Obama's "naive" willingness to talk? The one Hillary tried to make use against him?
Obama's policy direction is more than "not-the Bush."
Bush was so obnoxious to the world, and good reason, besides causing much death and destruction.
First, that's not being a leader, that's following the f*cking herd.
Second, the majority of people in the world live in societies where: women are subservient to men; child labor for the poor is the norm and education is only for the children of the rich; the rule of law is a joke; and individual liberties are looked upon as decadent Western luxuries. These are the the values the Nobel committee thinks we ought to promote?
Glad someone was watching.
http://www.swedishwire.com/general/1168-nobel-p...
http://www.swedishwire.com/general/1169-afghani...
http://www.swedishwire.com/general/1171-iran-pr...
congrats obama
yes we can!
BTW, too bad there isn't a negative Nobel to award to Bush/Cheney, maybe a fine of several million dollars as well as an upside down statuette or statue of Satan. Sigh! Or better yet, have the Hague sentence them to life in prison for crimes against humanity. Even in absentia, will be a meaningful statement of how vile these two are.
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Okay, this is a bunch of bunk. The nominations were closed February 1, after he was in office less than 2 weeks. Since then he has continued and expanded the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, threatened Iran, failed to close Guantanamo and contnued Bush renditions. This award was intended as a slap in the face of Bush/Cheney, but since Obama has become a Bush/Cheney clone, it fails miserably in that gesture and endorses Obama's own war crimes.
Oh, I deeply wish that Obama had actually earned and deserved this award. That was the Obama I supported and voted for, not the Bush/Cheney clone he is now.
http://www.swedishwire.com/general/1173-taliban...
Kaboom! Kaboom! Heads exploding all over Babble Belt!
"What....dat Ni**er got a fuckin' Peace Prize??? WTF?? Dora Jean bring me a fucking beer!"
By the way, thanks for leaving MA--can you take a few more wakos with you?
There is a radio and web news channel here in DC called WTOP
The amount of racist, vile, racist comments being posted before 7am are overwhelming....
( Ape boy, The "Black House" instead of the White House)
It's serious "why do you hate America" time. Or their other tried and true favorite, "why do you want to see American fail?"
Maybe Rush Limpbrain will stroke out.
Bush was such an epic failure that doing something usually considered ordinary, like talking to other countries that you have a disagreement with, is considered extraordinary and deserves a prize! Of course, Obama hasn't done anything to deserve this, but if it pisses off the Repukes, all the better.
I remember last year when the buffoon bush was in and walking across the World Stage not one Dignitary offered a hand and this fool was preparing to leave office.
Now we have a PRESIDENT, that THINKS, takes ACCOUNTABILITY, recognizes the differences in people and now receives the NOBLE PEACE PRIZE, wonder what the Wacko Right has to and is going to say about this remember these CLOWNS cheered when we lost the Olympic bid, I can only imagine what ate is coming down the pike now.
In fact the drone attacks in Pakistan are a daily occurrence. It's like the tree in the forest -- just because the media doesn't report it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
What he has done, in the face of much criticism, as stated above, is to extend an Olive Branch to our adversaries, because only peace can bring peace. He has fostered and ignited the will to good, which in turn, will increase goodwill around the world. In the face of ridicule, President Obama has set the tone and direction toward unity, cooperation and oneness, recognizing our interconnectedness with all nations around the world -- that we are all brothers/sisters and souls of the one Great Life from which we have all originated from. This is a very big deal Indeed because it is a Consciousness change which will change the actions of men on earth.
- promises not performance
- Talk not action
Rumor has it that the Human Rights Campaign HRC will be giving Obama an award for for being the #1 FIERCE ADVOCATE for GLBT rights.
Action? Who cares!
Remember he "promised" plus he will give a speech ("talk") and that's good enough for "the gays" from HRC.
please, you think awarding him MVP of the universe or whatever is going to motivate him to follow through on his promises? get real: this only enables his shameful behavior.
Obama may have pulled us about 30 seconds to 1 minute away from the doomsday clock midnight hour with his elimination of this saber rattling madness. Could that have impacted this decision?
Nonetheless, I was stunned when I read this news report. My gut reaction was "for what?" I also feel like I awoke in a parallel universe. Why not give it to J. K Rowling on behalf of Harry Potter, since he saved the entire muggle world from Lord Voldemort.
It was an international snub against Bush and his crime dynasty - and a message to the US to tone-down their war mongering imperialism.
Damn, and here I just thought he was just doing what reasonable presidents were supposed to do. George Bush certainly did lower the bar on that account, I just had no clue how much. Now, by simply engaging in normal diplomacy (something I thought the US did in practically every administration give or take a few) and toning down the rhetoric one can win a Nobel Peace Prize. And they can do it while considering escalating the war on another country. Wow. Go figure.