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AMERICAblog: BREAKING: Wesley Clark reportedly called Hillary tonight, urging her to drop out

  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Because he will be Obama's VP.
  • Jump to the Left · 1 year ago
    Because she lost.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Because she cannot win.
  • Jump to the Left · 1 year ago
    Because it's over.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Because yes Clinton cannot.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Hillary Dear,

    STFU and DROP OUT.

    Thanks
  • Jump to the Left · 1 year ago
    Sounds like consensus but for the candidate in question.
  • Bubbles · 1 year ago
    Not a bad choice for V. P. But I'm of kind of tired of throwing southerners on the ticket to balance it - Southerners still reject us. I think the low hanging fruit for flipping states blue is in the great plains from Kansas north, and the Eastern Slopes of the Rockies and the midwestern states adjacent to the great plains.

    Essentially of the 11 or 12 eastern slope to the Mississippi states north of Oklahoma and Texas should all go to the Dems if we select a candidate from that area. Sebelius, Schwietzer, Richardson, McCaskell, those kind of folks and in about that order.

    But still, I like very much, Clark. He's the kind of guy that can help fix the problem in Iraq.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Southern ius an add-on, the real plus to Clark is his military experience and presence on the world diplomatic stage. Geniius choice, plus he attracts .many in the Clinton camp
  • Bubbles · 1 year ago
    I agree on that point. As I understand it he did a great job in the
    balkans, and Iraq is a similar kind of mess, only much worse. So I very
    much like to see him in high places. He's a great man in my mind.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Impossible to Win = Lost
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Redo:

    Obama could use Clark's military cred to combine with Obama's sound anti-Iraq stance. Clark disarms and disembowels senile McCain's obvious military cred.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Clark has clout in certain important circles.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Clark is well connected with the military and the Pentagon.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    If McCain's a war hero, then General Wes Clark is a war superhero!

    Obama/Clark '08

  • Smarmy · 1 year ago
    Like she gonna listen to Clark. Look, she remains in this race because she's unwilling to give Obama the win. Her intentions are to muddy the waters and hopes he crashes and burns. These Clintons don't belong anywhere near the White House. They're Machiavellian.
  • campgranata · 1 year ago
    and that gives Machiavelli a black eye being compared to the criminal, corrupt keystone Klingons.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    From the newspaper that brought us Judith Miller and the Iraq war, there's a new reporter on the beat and he wants war with Iran, Lebanon and Syria before Bush leaves office. Here's a great analysis of Bush's blood lust for war with Iran and beyond.....
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/he...
  • dad · 1 year ago
    ALL ABOARD!

    The train is leaving the station.
    whoo-whoo!
  • firebrand · 1 year ago
    What great news about Obama and what a great speech. I feel like a kid on Christmas.

    Been reading comments on Huffpo from people in other parts of the world: They're excited too.
  • firebrand · 1 year ago
    Morning inspiration

    "It's time, ladies and gents.

    It's time to play, 'TAKE BACK YOUR GOVERNMENT'!!

    It's time to get a hold of our under-informed friends and family, and organize for the big fight! The fight for the survival of the middle class! Countdown to November JUST BEGUN.

    Go Progressives, and GOBAMA!"

    (comment by knixplan
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-melber/key-vo...)
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    This man needs to retire......

    Terry McAuliffe Has Become Baghdad Bob LOL
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-littman/terr...
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    Hill-Billy will trash this party and this election so she can run again in 2012. She did this to Al Gore in 2000. Is this what the Clintonistas plan over the next quarter century? To just keep trashing this party until there is no nation left? One of my best friends' parents was a big wig in the Democratic Party back in the eighties and warned me that this hillbilly governor from Arkansas and his pit bull wannabee wife would eventually come to hurt this nation badly through their dirty tricks with the party. This person knew them well enough not to trust them as far as they could throw them back then. Pity the American people are such fools to allow the idiot media to push this woman onto the scene just so as to trash her down for the hand puppet neocons like McBush. If they don't pull out now, Obama will be so wounded by November, McCain will take the next four years and take us with him in to hell. Thank God I am 57 and will not live to see the legacy of this time.
  • Faxus · 1 year ago
    Sorry, I'd love to vote for Obama, but as a Gay man, Obama has ignored me. As a Democrat he does not inspire me. I'm 52 and I don't care if McCain wins. If I cannot have Hillary, you can all have McCain. If the Obamites think they can just absorb Hillary's supporters, if they think that we will just fall into line and vote for him, well they have a big shock ahead. Hillary has paid her dues, Obama will be another Jimmy Carter. No thanks. I'm not going there.
  • cnick · 1 year ago
    Where are you going, to McCain who now wants a Constitutional amendment against you???
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Gorbachev: Bush could start new Cold War
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europ...
  • TomJoad · 1 year ago
    Kudos to John, Americablog, etc. Of all the blogs, it seems like Americablog is the most up-to-date, and has the most insight and evaluation going in. Surprisingly little on talkingpointsmemo, and other usually campaign focused places.
    Good job guys!
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    This Rush Limbaugh shit is really pissing me off today. Time to mute him.
  • Patriot · 1 year ago
    Is there anyone besides Vegas still taking odds that Clark would be a good running mate with Obama?
  • Patriot · 1 year ago
    Limbaugh is and has been a rotten corpse for some time. Unfortunately, he is so bloated with his own brand of bile that he spews more nastiness every time he is given the attention he craves.
  • TomJoad · 1 year ago
    Dimbaugh ought to be charged with terrorism, inciting to riot, and tampering with elections. How can that bloated junkie (who ratted out his housekeeper for gods sake) mean spirited, pinhead can be walking around after the illegal things he's done?
  • Patriot · 1 year ago
    I suspect Hillary might be receiving a lot of similar calls today from many equally important people.
  • Faxus · 1 year ago
    As a 53 year olf life long Democrat I must write that under no circumstances will I vote for Barack Obama if he is nominated. I don't like him, I don't like his wife. He does not speak to me. I am not compelled by his rhetoric. I do not find him sexy. Sorry. Sexy is not good enough. I can introduce you to many other Democrats who feel the same way. Fool yourself into thinking that Clinton's supporters will just line up and vote for Obama but come election day, when McCain is projected as the winner, you will all know exactly how I feel.
  • cnick · 1 year ago
    I am also a life long Democrat (48 years) and I voted for Obama, as well as many of my friends. The older people who tell me they can't vote for Obama are more afraid of a black man as President then they are FOR Hillary. We won't miss your vote!!!!
  • jeeves · 1 year ago
    cnick, I am 63 years old, I live in a dark red state, and I voted for Obama in our primary election. There is no reason Obama can not win, or at least cut deeply, into whatever margin McCain is assumed to have with them. The Republican policies are not helping older people at all.
  • Neva · 1 year ago
    I'm roughly the same age as you are: white, middle-aged, female, belonging to the one human race.

    Barack Obama goes far beyond rhetoric and sexy. I urge you to start reading about him to find out about the content of the man. A good start would be his book, "Dreams From My Father." That book started me as a supporter of Barack Obama -- me, a person with many very strong Republican beliefs.

    What you will find out is that Barack Obama has incredible integrity, the courage to put it all out there, with no sugarcoating to make himself appear better. You will also find out that he has the very rare ability to turn a dream into a vision, a vision into action and action into results. In addition he is bright, has eleven years of combined experience in the Illinois and US senates (HRC has seven years), and has leadership skills, the likes of which we will not see again in our lifetime.

    Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, is a liar -- not just a rumoured a liar, but a documented liar -- wrapped in equally documented scandals. Most significantly she was fired from her position on the Watergate Judiciary Committee for being a liar and unethical, dishonest lawyer. That, in itself, should be sufficient grounds to preclude her from being a candidate, let alone from being president. Her other unattractive qualities of adopting the political sound bites of the moment to further her ambitions, padding her resume (cause for dismissal in the corporate world) and riding on the coattails of an abusive husband are moot points, because she does not meet the integrity threshold we should be demanding of our leaders.

    Her campaign is giving us a very clear picture of what we could expect from her as president. A clear picture of a shameless president with no concept of behaviour boundaries. She is now claiming another attribute: being a fighter. Yes, she's a fighter: a dirty fighter and a losing fighter, without the judgement to know when to stop.

    If this woman were to somehow win the nomination through her politics of untrue diversions and distractions or superdelegate manipulation, it would go down as one of the darkest episodes in US history: an unethical liar winning against one of the most honest and dynamic politicians ever!

    As a woman, I am ashamed of Hillary Clinton. As a person who believes we should demand that our leaders be honest, it blows my mind that anyone would vote for her, particularly women.
  • Faxus · 1 year ago
    You haven't convinced me. Senator Obama hasn't convinced me. People always attack Hillary and resort to name-calling without provocation. I cannot and will not support Obama. I will not vote for Obama. The primary reason for my decision are the attacks on Hillary Clinton. I do not understand the level of hate that people have for her. It's unchristian, it's actually very republican. If you cannot convince me and he doesn't bother trying to convince me, then McCain is going to be the next president because you folks have this "charismatic savior" idea that Obama will save us. I don't need saving. I want competent administration. And right here people call me names. I find that so typical of people who are narrow minded and I will not put myself in the same category as most of the folks who are online and comment here. The vast majority of Americans are over 50 and not "wired" and they aren't going to vote for Obama and they won't mess around with semantics when they say why. They say they won't vote for him because he's Black. You'll never convince those folks to vote for him. Even Hillary begging them won't sway them. So hate on. I can take it.
  • watchertoo · 1 year ago
    Bravo. I, a 52 year old, life long register Republican, could not have said it better. I have supported Obama since he declared his candidacy for the same reasons you so eloquently explain. HRC is embarrassing women everywhere with her demand to have her way at ANY cost. Gives us all a bad name. I will support Obama and pray that he restores a moral compass in our government and we can all start practicing what we preach to our children and let them watch the news!
  • Honour · 1 year ago
    Beautiful post, Neva . . . purplegirl, too. Thank you both for speaking truth in clear, peaceful terms. There is simply no denying it: Obama is a man of decency, integrity, and tremendous promise as our President - a president for all seasons !

    I look forward to a time of real hope for healing and positive change in government, hope for a level playing field in the economy (an equitable and actual living wage !), and - please God - a return to true and lasting peace in our time. Let it be . .

    Obama is the Man! Vote Obama 2008!
  • jeeves · 1 year ago
    The Clinton supporters will, by and large, vote for the Democratic candidate in the general election. This election is about getting rid of the Republicans. If egos have been bruised they will heal. But this election is about something much more important than one person. The Republicans and their twisted policies have to go!!!!!!!!!!
  • rebrarenee · 1 year ago
    NO one is asking you to like Obama. What in the world does whether or not you like someone has anything to do with the job they are capable of? How is it possible to even make such a statement about someone you don't know personally? If you don't like Obama's message, then say that. You sound like one of those people the pundits say are Hillary's base. Uneducated, uniformed and the only thing required for someone's opinion to have any validity is that their skin be the same color as theirs.
    You need to take a long look at exactly who is going to be looking out for you, your interests. Instead of basing your vote entirely on past unsubstantiated biases. If you have been a Democrat for 53 years, I am willing to bet, the likes of George H.Bush, George W. Bush and especially John McCain don't subscribe to your core beliefs. Get over yourself, you and all the other Democrats you know. It's time to encourage new ideas, passionate enthusiam and unity.
    To cut your nose off to spite your face is just plain stupid, and if you have lived for at least 71 years you should know better.
  • TomJoad · 1 year ago
    I think faxus is a troll. Obama has mentioned gays and his belief that all should be equal, and NOT just at gay audiences, at all. Clinton only ever mentions gays at gay ralies, gay newspaper interviews.

    Finding a candidate "sexy" as prerequisite (AND then saying you want Hillary...is this person gay or not?) is a REALLY smart way to get a great candidate in the White House.

    If you are a real person, you need to work on finding out what your civil duties are. You can choose to not like a candidate, but those grounds are both wrong and stupid.
  • Faxus · 1 year ago
    What is a troll?
  • Linzack · 1 year ago
    There's no way in Hell Obama would pick Clark... He betrayed Obama by backing Clinton... He's a jerk anyway... Obama will be picking a woman to run with him... possibly Sen. Clair McCaskill of Missouri. But there will be no Generals or Clintonites in the Obama election. D.
  • Faxus · 1 year ago
    Betrayed? Betrayed? I think you've been watching too many Spanish soap operas. You folks behave like Clinton is just going to roll over and die. Clinton will not win in West Virgina. I was born there. The race isn't over and Hillary will be at the convention with roughly half of the party behind her and those supporters are a very diverse group of people who do not follow her blindly. Even if she concedes to Obama, many of the men and women who voted for her will not vote for Obama. If the party nominates him in Denver, he will not win. No Clinton on the ticket? No Obama in the White House.
  • shanobama · 1 year ago
    I hope the Democratic party comes together in November. McCain is a threat to the whole world, not just to the American dream.

    Yes, there is racism, but it has been predicted to be 12%, and the majority in Appalachia. I have a close friend in Shepperdstown, Aunt and Uncle were both in Congress. She will support the Democratic nominee in November.

    The youth vote, the new voter block (Obama has been registering record numbers of voters), the Independent vote (I am in this group) all have put Obama over Clinton and will over ride the racist vote by triple digits. Obama will win over McCain because of this new dynamic, too.

    You only have to look at the results in Louisiana to see this is true. A seat held by Republicans for 70 years went to a Democrat even though the Republicans pulled the racist card over and over.
  • High Crimes & Misdemeanors · 1 year ago
  • purplegirl · 1 year ago
    Amen Neva. I too am a 50+ white woman who voted Obama. Clinton's integrity, or lack thereof, is what kept me from supporting her. Haven't we had enough lying and political game laying after 7+ years of Bush??? Holy cow. HRC would be more of the same political garbage we've grown so tired of, and here we have a chance to change all of that and people just want to keep being abused. And they seem to hold on to HRC's traits of being a sore loser. If they can't win then they won't let Obama win. They really don't care about this country, just about their bruised egos. If Obama would've lost, I would support HRC, because I care about this country enough to not want to see McSame in the driver's seat. Too bad HRC and her supporters are such phonies. All the while they claim to care and love this country and want to see it back on the right track. Yeah, right. Only if THEY win. Otherwise they hope we all go to hell, with McSame driving. Selfish. Sad.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    "Bill O'Reilly says you took money from George Soros"-Hillary to Wes Clark
  • redfox · 1 year ago
    Faxus, you said Obama will not win guesswhat Hillary wil not win either if she is the nominee. Have you watched the polls? Even though I do not put stock in the polls every poll that cnn, msnbc and other stations use Obama beats MCain, every poll with Hillary , MCain wins. I have seen about 6-7 polls saying the same. Hillary will not win a big black vote because are angry as to the racist things Bill has said and how the Clints have been so mean spirited against Obama. The media won't tell you but she has and is loosing the spanish support because of the way the Clintons threw Bill Richards under the bus when he endorsed Obama. So think again if you think Hillary will win. Enough said.
  • LanceThruster · 1 year ago
    General Clark has always come across as someone with integrity and superior reasoning capacity. I supported him in his presidential bid and had at least hoped that he woould have been a veep selection (though Edwards was fine. I would have rather had JE at the the top of the ticket in 2004 and supported him early on this time round).

    Which Clinton operative will declare Gen. Clark a Judas and non-entity if he goes any further with this?
  • allainjules · 1 year ago
    Dear Hillary,

    Bye bye and go home definitely, we have it enough !

    http://allainjulesblog.blogspot.com/
  • margif · 1 year ago
    As a "foreign" watcher of the election process I believe it is time for Sen. Clinton to quit. She is hurting the image of the Democratic party and its chance of electing a Democrat in November. The whole western world needs to be rid of the Republicans . Someone with a "healing" personality has to repair the damage done by the present Administration. The western world needs a CEO it can respect and look up to. I think Sen. Obama would be ideal for this role.
  • PSoTD · 1 year ago
    This is not true. He did not contact Hillary or the Clinton campaign expressing a desire for her to drop out.

    I wonder if somebody said "it may be time to pull the plug on this" would be described as "expressing a desire for her to drop out." There is room for parsing here.
  • timothycrocker · 1 year ago
    PLEASE WEST VIRGINIA DEMOCRATS: If she goes until Tuesday its time for some euthansia. Let's get going on the important job at hand.
  • dingram · 1 year ago
    The only way I would vote for Hillary is if Wes Clark is her running mate...but I'm hoping that the General will ride shotgun with Obama. I personally believe he would make a better president than either of them...and he is the one person out there that can rekindle my political enthusiams (which have been crushed by the last two elections and the last 8 years of political misery).
  • gregrocker · 1 year ago
    "Let the word go out that the torch has passed to a new generation"

    ---John F. Kennedy
  • blue_in_redville · 1 year ago
    You would think in the "greatest Democracy" in the world, we would have learned by now how to hold elections. This whole process has been a fiasco. Close elections always bring to focus the flaws in the system. Caucus here, primary there, caucus and primary there; voting by weighted congressional districts so urban areas get more of a vote; and no Florida, no Michigan; and who are these idiot "superdelegates" anyway? Regardless of who gets the nomination (most likely Obama) the other side and their supporters will be left with a most foul taste in their mouth.

    So we Dems will likely manage to pick the Most Liberal senator (Obama) as our candidate with no real prior political or life experience besides (a) having taking the position that he would not have voted for war authorization if he had actually been in the Senate and really had to make that tough call; and (b) having been "an organizer" in Chicago; and (c) having been the son of a single mom who once was on welfare (apparently a badge of honor). Hopefully we can have some shots of him bird hunting in Iowa in the fall to complete his faux "I'm just a regular guy like you" PR blitz.

    Here we go again, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Oh well, after George Jr., McCain's got to be better. I'm depressed.
  • kitonlove · 1 year ago
    dear blue_
    I think the process has been revealing of some flaws, but not the ones you mention.
    1. Caucuses are outdated, but if a state wants to switch to a primary they have but to vote for that change.
    2. Weighted congressional districts? You don't know that congressional districts are drawn so that they have basically equal populations? Of course urban areas get more of a "vote," they have MORE VOTERS.
    3. FL and MI *chose* to face the consequences of breaking party rules. If the voters in those states are upset, let them take anger it to their legislators who made this bad call.
    4. Superdelegates are not necessarily a bad idea. Imagine a scenario where most of the way through a primary season, say after a few of the big states have voted, a candidate is found out to have no viability (insert crazy sex scandal here). You couldn't just have the states that voted take back their decision, so for the good of the party there's a safety switch to prevent a dud getting to the general. I do, however, think that more superdelegates should be elected officials rather than random former whatnots so that they have more of a compelling interest to represent their districts/states/constituents.
    So, while Obama is a liberal senator (though hardly the most, those metrics are so bizarre) he does represent an awful lot of the country and poll after poll has shown him to best McCain nationally. If you had any illusions that Hillary would have been better, time to put those aside. Obama is a great statesman and a great leader. He certainly has proved that in creating such a successful campaign from scratch at the very least. If you have any love at all for your country, you'll come onboard-- McCain brings nothing but further ruin, ruin from which I think we may not recover.
  • blue_in_redville · 1 year ago
    True, congressional districts have similar populations but under the primary rules of some states, the votes of congressional districts that are "more democratic" are weighted more heavily than others. It is not one person, one vote. Check it out. I am right. Isn't that crazy?

    The ultimate flaw in the process will be revealed in November. Sorry to say.
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    This would be juicy John. Who told you this or is it just rumor?
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    You have to talk to Mirth about Richardson. She's a New Mexico lady and she has some strong opinions about Richardson...
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Limbaugh has prolonged Hillary's candidacy to the point that she has to wonder if he's more important to her than "Bill the dud".
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    OK, tbhull, caught your comment on the downthread. Yes, I do believe you're from OK. Lots of respect.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Cherokee, Choctaw and hispanic.
  • Hangtown Danile · 1 year ago
    Hey Busboy-
    Q:How are Hillery Clinton and an Oncologist alike?
    A: They both make six figures destroying peoples hopes and dreams.
    Funny, but not really.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Thanks, Hangtown, for making my day. Get your own blog someday?
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Clark is viewed as a "loose canon" by most voters. Obama needs someone like Webb?
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Webb is too weird. Richardson would be better than Webb as would perhaps Evan Bayh. Biden, like dodd, would not be bad, but would not bring any greater voter appeal. Colin Powell would be nice.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Question: Why would Wes Clark call Hillary to tell her to drop out? WTH? The pipsqueak addressing the peanut gallery? Makes no sense to me...
  • campgranata · 1 year ago
    it's politics and doesn't need to make sense for if logic were applied it wouldn't be politics.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    hmmmm, vbad spelling: blow it out your blooeyhole, Nigel.........
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Imagine Wes with A2-D2 stencilled on his forehead. Get back to me on that?
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    I just noticed that I was running a -1368 on the "scoreboard". Please, don't give me a neg unless it's important. You will be repaid in the afterlife"...
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Clark could make a good dog catcher; but it would take years of practice. Should never have quit his day job...
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    tb, answered you on the downthread. Wesley Clark? Political has been; who never was. Fine credentials. Wrong theatre. Lot's of guts telling Hillary to suck it up. Guess his pension kicked in...
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Obama could use Clark's molitary cred to cmbine with the sound anti-Iraq staqnce. Iraq disarms and disembowels senile McCain's obvious military cred.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Don't know, tb, Clark never impressed anyone the last time around. Maybe he's a bridge to influence peddling for the Clintons. Only thing that makes sense to this cowboy...
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Blow it our your blooeyhole, Niger.....