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AMERICAblog: Bush: Bailouts only allowed for Wall Street millionaires

  • Hack · 1 year ago
    It takes someone elses money, to pillage our money.
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    Campaign finance reform...BIG TIME...is the only answer...good luck with that one.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Two different Americas.

    Wow, I sure wish John Edwards was still around to exploit this huge issue.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I have a question for the Corporate Propaganda Media, FOX, in particular, because I know they could get access. Why haven't they done a story on Dick Cheney's grandson, Samuel Cheney? Many of us would like to see the well adjusted child of two Republican lesbians. Ask yourselves this question, if Al Gore's daughter were a lesbian and had a child out of wedlock with another woman, during the Clinton years, wouldn't FOX & friends relentlessly hound them, and claim it was another example of Democratic Family Values? Why does the Corporate Propaganda Media give Mary Cheney and Heather Poe all this "private space" when they would NEVER do that if they were Al Gore's daughter and her partner? What is even more laughable is Republican policies are so totally against this kind of thing. It makes the media ignoring this huge story on Mary Cheney, Heather Poe and their baby even MORE unnaceptable. I know Mary and Heather don't really miss the financial benefits that would be conferred on them, if they were married, since they are "entitled wealthy Republicans" but the rest of the poor, and middle class LGBT people, who have children, would appreciate equal policies for our families. The rest of the LGBT families don't have the luxury of living in a Halliburton financed Bubble. The Corporate Propaganda Media really should do a story on them... don't ya think? The very least the media could do is show us a photo of the "royal bastard." I mean, Samuel Cheney IS a bastard if his mother's can't get married, right? Money can change some things but it can't change everything. Dick Cheney's grandson will always be a bastard because of his grandfather's "Family Values" policies.

    How would you like to explain to your grandson. "Well, the reason everyone calls you a bastard is because I supported the policy that excluded your mothers from getting married... so, well, you will always be a bastard, Samuel!"

    Samuel, "Gee, thanks Grandpa!"
  • GrahamCrackerDC · 1 year ago
    This is from the article: "Frank says the millions of individuals who might face foreclosure because of the expanding credit crisis deserve help, even if they made a mistake by borrowing beyond their means".

    I own a small business which is struggling. I was forced to layoff my wife -- who thankfully got a better job. We are struggling to make our mortgage payments and save for retirement. But we are making the payments. Why, exactly, should our tax dollars be used to bail the people that Barney Frank says "made a mistake?"
  • vwcat · 1 year ago
    According to the republicans, only the rich and the corporations deserve to get help because they were swindled by those greedy middle class peons.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Busboy,

    The Democratic policies support gay relationships. Gore would have been proud of his daughter and demanded they be fully recognized as married.

    Cheney didn't destroy his family? How so? I would call NOT supporting gay marriage destroying his grandchild's chances of NOT being called a bastard throughout his life. All the Republicans had to do is allow gay marriage and many children in gay families would have the opportunity of being treated equally but money, and power, is more important than family in the Cheney households. Obviously.

    Oh, I almost forgot, I'm talking to "Busboy." Logic doesn't work with you. It takes some kind of desperate Republican to try to confer honorable intentions onto the despicable actions to promote intolerance for political purposes. Instead of protecting his family, Cheney chose to appeal to the ignorant Bush base.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    GrahamCrackerDC writes: "Why, exactly, should our tax dollars be used to bail the people that Barney Frank says "made a mistake?"

    Uh, the bigger question being posed is why does the MILLIONAIRE CORPORATE types always get bailed out? We are talking about people losing their homes, and going where? If tax dollars go anywhere, it should go to keep people in their homes. If we are going to bail anyone out it should be from the bottom up instead of the top down.

    I have a question for you, if we don't bail out the homeowners then should the mortgage companies get any help? If the homeowner is helped and pays their mortgage then the mortgage company gets their payment. Wouldn't you rather see that than a bunch of "Bushville" shanty towns? We don't need modern day "Hoovervilles" or "Bushvilles."
  • JustAnOldLady · 1 year ago
    Oil hit $120/barrel but not to worry, Bushie is sending y'all $600 and putting on your grandkids' credit card........
  • zabby · 1 year ago
    Hmmm, truly an outrageous opinion. Even that John Aravosis from Americablog guy (http://www.americablog.com/2008/02/does-this-gu...) agrees with this Rep. Jeb Hansarling ;-). You know he must be out to lunch.

    It's not fair that richest of the richest got bailed out, but it isn't fair for these guys to get bailed out either. It isn't fair to the people that bought houses in their price range and were responsible with their money.
  • MorgaineSwann · 1 year ago
    The Democrats don't do anything about corporate welfare because they have financial interests in those companies just like the Republicans do. They're always going to help themselves. That means bailing out the big companies and helping them screw the middle class. We have to get the corporate money out of our elections or nothing is going to change.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Busboy

    Whoa, there. I heard Obama on some program about a month ago say he was for civil unions but not gay marriage. At the time I wondered why there was not some kind of response but no one said anything. I don't know about Hillary, I can't stand to listen to her.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Obama's quotes on civil unions, same sex marriage, military and many other issues

    http://www.equalitygiving.org/Barack-Obama-on-t...
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Of course a smileyfaced corporate media stranglehold helps a great deal...Like the media trumpeting McStain's black outreach while video showed only handfulls of white people attending in majority black towns.
    Big media...redefining the term "quisling" downward...
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Busboy

    LOL sorry, I will try to refrain in the future
  • Hangtown Danile · 1 year ago
    he court then has the obligation to raise the millage levys (property taxes) on the remaining homeowners and businesses to a level sufficient to retire the bonds.
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    So then I will loose the house we just got to taxes...
    Thank you Lib Dem dominated Sacramento for killing my American Dream.
    Don't worry I know it is all Bushes fault right?
    Well I guess we can find a house in Utah, at least they know how to run a state without running it into the ground.
  • sherifffruitfly · 1 year ago
    It's because of this that John is bassackwards on bitching about the little guy getting help. If the big guys get help, then the little guys DAMN WELL better get help. Let it be stipulated that neither of them deserves it - just for the sake of argument. I'm happy to stipulate it because it's fucking irrelevant.

    In the real world , everybody ALWAYS knew the big guys were gonna get help - that's why it's good to be the king, so they say. The only live question in the real world (and not magic pony world) was whether *only* the big guys would get bailed out, or whether BOTH the big guys AND the little guys would get bailed out.

    Given those choices, which are the REAL WORLD choices, I choose the second in a heartbeat.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    But, Chris, by putting millions out of their homes, people like Hensarling and friends can help themselves afford those luxurious homes they themselves live in!

    How could anything be more fair? [snark]
  • Andrew · 1 year ago
    Whatever the form of a bailout, I would rather see it go to my neighbor with a family rather than bailing out a brokergage firm or bank that in many cases had billions of dollars to invest and blew it. Makes more sense keeping thousands of families in their homes rather than keeping one bank open by using tax payer funds for bailouts.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Why does anyone really bdelieve the current slate of dems offer any real difference?

    We are still in Iraq. We are still being spied on by our own government without warrants supported by probable cause. the lists goes on and on.

    We have but one party, two faces, with each face sucking the breasts of mother money and offer the relief of momma gubment to the rich only.

    The way to stop this is to cut of DCs cash flow, by reducing tax inflows. With the money comes the power. A mass tax protest and/or a refusal to work thus strangling DC is a way. It will never happen, but if it did just watch those repubs changes their anti-immigration stance in a second.

    Government should bail out neither the homeowner who has fallen on hard times nor Wall Street. One learns from failure and suffering. Government handouts and bailouts only teach one to ask for more, just like my pug at the treat jar.
  • Viceroy · 1 year ago
    So let's be clear, in your universe there should be two options: 1) the federal government bails out anyone who gets into financial difficulty, including those who knowing gamble on variable interest rates and lose, or 2) major companies and corporations upon which the health of our economy depends, and upon which tens of thousands directly and indirectly rely upon for jobs should not ever be assisted for the common good regardless of impact. Brilliant.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    It takes a millage to pillage a village. Which is exactly what's going to happen in California when the property tax collection is insufficient to pay off the bonded debt. The court then has the obligation to raise the millage levys (property taxes) on the remaining homeowners and businesses to a level sufficient to retire the bonds.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    AQ-2, would you please refrain from bringing up facts when I'm trying to browbeat the cowboy? .......;).........
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Gore would have blamed it on global warming or covered it up. Cheney didn't; he didn't destroy his family; he loves the the daughter and the child. No matter what you think about Cheney, he did the right thing. For the Cowboy to suggest that the media drag the family, including the child, thru the mud is beyond reprehensible.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Cowboy, I've got some big news for you. Dick Cheney has spoken out in favor of civil unions. If you google "Cheney, Civil unions" you can read his quotes. What do princess Hillary, Obama and McCain have to say about civil unions on the old campaign trail? Zip, zero, nada. Cheney should be your hero; yet you want to call his grandson a bastard. Despicable...