AMERICAblog: Bush: I had to kill the economy in order to save the economy
Apphouse50
· 11 months ago
Well, he knows there's one constituency this kind of tortured logic resonates with: dimitted fundies. It's one of those variations of "I had to do this awful thing to you to keep you safe" that they may not understand every time, but they accept.
Too bad they got the shit kicked out of them on November 4 and it's not a given that they'll be able to foist their stupidity on the rest of us anymore, eh?
I almost don't even care what he says anymore. He's so over.
cowboyneok
· 11 months ago
I do. I"m tired of his particular "class" of "elite politicians" not having to pay a price for their criminality. If the Bu$h Administration gets away with the last eight years with no prosecution then our American experiment is over. We are back to the same old "rich taking advantage of the poor" with ZERO accountability or representation.
Apphouse50
· 11 months ago
I hear you. I'm all for seeing him in Gitmo; I just find the blather to be emanating from his trap to be nothing but noise at this point. Nothing he says has any meaning; I really wonder what it must be like to be at the end of a 2-term stint as POTUS and know that everything you've done and said is garbage.
vkobaya
· 11 months ago
Yep! I had to murder 1.3 million innocent Iraqi civilians, 4,209 American soldiers, force 120,000 more Americans to commit suicide, leave another 100,000 Americans crippled, maimed and brain-damaged as well as a million Iraqis for peace, freedom and democracy. That says nothing about his other crimes of embezzling trillions of dollars to enrich himself and his Wall Street, greedy bastard friends.
Older_Wiser
· 11 months ago
The words of someone who truly doesn't understand a fucking thing about the economy. If this turd has a legitimate MBA, I have a double Ph.D in physics.
Can we boot him out yet? Nancy Pelosi, I'll never forgive you (but I'll bet you and your hubby are making tons of money).
vkobaya
· 11 months ago
The words of someone who truly doesn't understand a fucking thing about the economy.
Stop being an ass. Saying he doesn't understand implies innocence, a mistake, an opps-'scuse me. Bush understands that what he did was a crime, that he ripped us off for trillions of dollars and murdered millions of people. He is in no way innocent. He is one of the great war criminals and criminals of history.
woodroad34
· 11 months ago
I don't think innocence is implied; I think Older_Wiser is implying that Bush has an incapacity to mentally grasp the consequences of his actions....that somewhat implies sociopathology.
cowboyneok
· 11 months ago
Well, at least he didn't respond with the oh, so typical, Bu$hco. response of "So what?"
I have an answer to Republican Bu$hco. "So What?" How about: "ACCOUNTABILITY, SIR / Madame! You have to spend the rest of your miserable life in Leavenworth to pay for your criminal behavior?"
Next time a reporter asks a Bush lackey about criminal behavior and they respond, "So what?" How about responding with, "Where is the accountability? Don't you think you owe the American society and people a price for your criminal behavior or neglect?"
prochoicelib
· 11 months ago
It's not "so what", more like Boss Tweed with "and what are you going to do about it?"
vkobaya
· 11 months ago
That is the point that makes Pelosi, Reid and even Obama's refusal to hold Bush accountable so wrong. Cheney has brazenly admitted his cuplability in the fake war and in torture, thumbing his nose at us and brazenly saying we don't have the nerve to hold them accountable. At this point, if our leaders, the same Pelosi, Reid and Obama don't hold Bush/Cheney accountrable they are, in fact, complicit, accomplices and accessories to these crimes and war crimes.
At this point, going after Ken Lay, Madoff and any other corporate criminals is again the same thing as the prosecution, conviction and imprisonment of our privates, corporals and sargeants but no officers for war crimes and torture. In both civil and war crimes, the real criminals are those at the top, Bush/Cheney, and perhaps their complicit, accomplices, and accessories, yes, Pelosi/Reid/Obama.
Don't you get it yet? Bush/Cheney aren't stupid, mistaken, foolish, clueless, simpletons, weak minded ... They are EVIL. We are the ones who fit the description, stupid, mistaken, foolish, clueless, simpletons, weak minded ...
cowboyneok
· 11 months ago
One other thing to consider. If the political elites had to kill capitalism in order to save their version of it which is really "hyper-capitalism" or "the rich are too important or big to fail" then the American experiment did not work and the rich need to start giving up their perks and special rights. They need to pay taxes and contribute like the rest of us. No more protection of their wealth so they can put their entitled inbred idiot children in charge of the rest of us so they can continue to steer our country into a ditch. If Bu$hco. had to make our country more socialist than China to save their "massive fortunes" then we all need to start living like a true socialist country. Its time for the ultra-rich to stop walling themselves off from the poor, and being treated like royalty.
woodroad34
· 11 months ago
Yeah, if HW and Thyroid Babs can commit a crime of foisting their mutant-menace-to-society on us, they should pay through the Jim Beam.
Indigo
· 11 months ago
It puts me in mind of the Texas Christian lady who drowned her children to save them from the devil. Thing is, in Texas, that probably makes sense. I favor giving Texas back to Mexico.
JohnInTexas
· 11 months ago
Give back? There are so many Mexicans here in Texas now, they will have it back anyway soon.
(The above doesn't seem to be working; just go to Bloomberg.com and down to the middle of the page, click on there if you're interested.)
prochoicelib
· 11 months ago
"I feel a sense of obligation to my successor to make sure there is not a, you know, a huge economic crisis. Look, we're in a crisis now. I mean, this is -- we're in a huge recession, but I don't want to make it even worse."
What complete bullshit.
Patrick_Bateman
· 11 months ago
Illinois - How quickly they are in the 'Impeachment' mode.
Yet, the horrific crimes of BushCo will never be addressed now or ever.
Bush will get his, maybe not soon enough for me but the universal system of justice will eventually balance his human misdeeds.
Older_Wiser
· 11 months ago
I wonder. Imagine the SS agents who will have to "protect" him when he finally moves to Dallas. Maybe the neighbors will move out and squatters from Dallas's poorest neighborhoods move in...poetic justice of the highest caliber. They could take large group walks every night to remind him of his crimes since it's obvious he'll never be brought to justice for what he's done to this country.
Patrick_Bateman
· 11 months ago
Indeed, the Stormtroopers will have their blasters full.
woodroad34
· 11 months ago
Well, if anything, Illinois is proving to be a good reason to elect Obama. Texas for all it's rootin' tootin' justice -- well Tom Delay is still out of jail, Bush has his mansion in Dallas, and Texas courts have thrown out indictments against Cheney and Bush for Gitmo atrocities.
Patrick_Bateman
· 11 months ago
Point taken.
Ron Tunning
· 11 months ago
God, how reminiscent of Viet Nam - "We had to destroy the village in order to save it."
woodroad34
· 11 months ago
Yeah, but we're not in a quagmire here or in Eye-raq. We're now practically giving away money to stimulate his war on the economy. So much, AGAIN, for the fiscally conservative GOP.
okojo
· 11 months ago
I don't think Bush understands, What made the crisis in the first place was his administration's hands off policy toward economic regulation, inaction toward "liar loans", how Wall Street was heavily strong arming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into their business, and then turn around and tell Corps to take heavier risks in securing home loans. Demanding a tax cut while a war was going on, adding billions in gov't spending for short term political gain instead of thinking of long term political problems. He wouldn't be in this mess if he actually was realistic and showed some awareness of what was going on.
All G-8 economies are regulatory economies. Regulators may be annoying to financial companies, but they are also benefactors. It is silly to have this simple ideology that free markets means no or little oversight. The warning signs were out there for years, neither the Bush Administration nor the Federal Reserve felt any concern about their actions..
One thing Bush is not mentioning as he was doing for years to tie in Social Security privatization and home ownership, "The ownership society" gee whatever happened to that the "legacy" cornerstone of the Bush Administration?
S_in_Tokyo
· 11 months ago
How stupid can you get?
woodroad34
· 11 months ago
He's the epitome of stupidity....you can't achieve a higher plane of ignorance than his or stoop to a lower level of idiocy. He is the black hole of humanity.
Double_D
· 11 months ago
Hello? Wake the fuck UP, George... the economy HAS collapsed
More Bush fuckery
· 11 months ago
The Bush crew have always talked backwards. In public? Driven snow. In private? "We will fuck him. Do you hear me? We will fuck him. We will ruin him. Like no one has ever fucked him!"
So "I feel a sense of obligation to my successor to make sure there is not a, you know, a huge economic crisis" is not just crap. It needs to be read backwards to be understood. "I have done and will continue to do what I can to leave my successor a huge economic crisis" is consistent not only with that, it is consistent with the kind of fuckery that has consistently been this administration's mark.
NMRon
· 11 months ago
The worst part of it is there's simply no conception of any other way . . . among the media and punditry. The role that Free market ideology and raygunomics have played in destroying the middle class is undeniable, but we still have George Will, Lou Dobbs, etc. etc. etc. whose mantra for their entire lives has been this nonsense. Now that this vile assault on society has been shown for the failure that it was always known to be, they simply can't face the reality of their failure as well. I am sick to death of listening to their discussions of the economy and labor. Fuck them.
marblex
· 11 months ago
There is no media and there are no pundits. Only propagandists. They are touting what they are paid to tout. Most of the idiots who call themselves "pundits" don't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to most things, including and especially politics and the economy. But they aren't paid to know things, they are paid to repeat dutifully the talking points passed to them by the banks and the Fed, which are actually in control of this country and have been since that fucking asshole Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act in 1913.
marblex
· 11 months ago
Considering this adolescent approach to the economy that the Republicans is so fond of and, which is in turn, based on the FICTION writer Ayn Rand, herself, dumber than a bag of hair on fire, is the sole and singular cause of the depression we are careening towards and which this monumental theft of tax dollars will do nothing to stop, I find Mr. Bush's lamentation, in a word, laughable.
Cej
· 11 months ago
If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time I've seen Bush use the words "I am sorry."
After wreaking havok on every sector of society, the one thing that Bush truly regrets is his destruction of capitalism.
The CEO president, ladies and gentlemen.
Paul
· 11 months ago
Saying that you are sacrificing free-market principles to save the economy is essentially admitting that the free-market is a failure unless it is saved by socialism.
Paul
· 11 months ago
The only surviving economic system after the collapses of communism (1989) and capitalism (2008) is socialism.
EmGD
· 11 months ago
I believe this is known as the "OJ defense". He loves America so much that he just had to destroy it because he didn't think anyone would love it as much as he did.
"I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system" Anytime "principles" are "abandoned" to save something, that thing is not based on "principles", at least the ones claimed. I think the principle of the GOP is "get away with whatever you can without paying for it". And Bush is still dead-on on that one. The Hague with him.
KenStarr
· 11 months ago
You beat me to it. Dead on!
RitornaVincitor
· 11 months ago
In other words, Bush had to abandon his "free market principles" in order to save the economy from them. But he hated to do it. What a boob.
Someone could make a mint by putting together a DVD of all of Bush's pauses during his speeches where he, you know - he just kind of - like when you know - it ought to be collected down so - kind of for - you know - uh - posterity when folks look back and say - uh - the man was President but he - ya have to know how to talk. Well, I guess just one DVD wouldn't be enough to capture all of Bush's verbal screwups. It would have to be multi-volume set.
KerrynowCampau
· 11 months ago
Good bush imitation
RitornaVincitor
· 11 months ago
Well we been watchin 'em on the news now for, what'sit been, like, uh, a long - ya can't miss 'em. And after a while he kinda starts ta, you know - it, uh - people talk like that. That's what happens. Now, some say he's listenin' into one of them earpieces. But ya can't - Hold on! Let me finish this! - Ya can't talk with people talkin' in yer ear. It don't work. Ya gotta say what ya gotta - ya don't - What's that? He talks plain. That's good. Americans like that. Americans can relate to that. He's a man on the people.
Oh, that was GREAT! Bush is a comedy piñada. ROTF! Had to watch it twice. Thank you.
benb
· 11 months ago
Hasn't Bush wondered why we've had so many big investment scandals during his term in office?
woodroad34
· 11 months ago
He doesn't have intellectual curiosity. Yah, you can betcha, his answer would be: "So what?"
woodroad34
· 11 months ago
We had to fight the economy on Wall St. so we wouldn't have to fight it on Main St. -- yeah, that didn't work so well, either.
Perhaps George Bush's face should be used by MADD as a reason not to drink, or Planned Parenthood should use it as a means of birth control.
Rob Mule
· 11 months ago
Soon this drunk and abusive national dad will tumble off the wharf of history to rot in the polluted shallows until family henchmen spirit the foul carcass away...
Topher
· 11 months ago
So he was against the economy before he was for it?
IAmATVJunkie
· 11 months ago
Trying to make sense of the shit he's saying during his extended curtain call is driving me nuts.
Obviously no one is coaching him these days.
Imagine if this is what we had to work with for eight years ... oh that's right we totally did!
TomJoad
· 11 months ago
When he's not president anymore can we throw shoes (or at least sandals) at him in public without getting arrested, beaten, and all that?
Think of it, man...everywhere the little fuck goes, shoes get thrown at him. So many he cringes automatically when anyone leans down to even tie their shoes. Even in the soup and bread lines, poor folk with patched and toe-sticking-out shoes...their last defense against frostbitten shoes, risk them to throw at the litle turd, til he can't go ANYWHERE...
It's only a dream, but man...
He's the original bizzaro-Midas, EVERY goddamn thing he touches turns to shit. Wrong-way Bush. Too dumb to understand all the pain and suffering he's caused.
Even supposedly neutral news reporters start saying the reporter that threw the shoes "took the invasion personally"...what the hell? All those patriotic Bush-lovin' americans would NOT take it "personally" if some country invaded the US, killed civilians in the hundreds of thousands, could ram down your door any time day or night without a warrant, drag families out into the street with potato sacks on their heads, and instead of even handcuffs, just tie-wrap plastic, and yell at the father, daugher, mother, threaten them...
Yeah...WE wouldn't take it "personally", we'd be all grinning and saying to ourselve "hell, I don't like it, but I know it ain't personal or anything, those soldiers just think of us as a bunch of amies, or en-amies..."
All Comments
Too bad they got the shit kicked out of them on November 4 and it's not a given that they'll be able to foist their stupidity on the rest of us anymore, eh?
I almost don't even care what he says anymore. He's so over.
Can we boot him out yet? Nancy Pelosi, I'll never forgive you (but I'll bet you and your hubby are making tons of money).
Stop being an ass. Saying he doesn't understand implies innocence, a mistake, an opps-'scuse me. Bush understands that what he did was a crime, that he ripped us off for trillions of dollars and murdered millions of people. He is in no way innocent. He is one of the great war criminals and criminals of history.
I have an answer to Republican Bu$hco. "So What?" How about: "ACCOUNTABILITY, SIR / Madame! You have to spend the rest of your miserable life in Leavenworth to pay for your criminal behavior?"
Next time a reporter asks a Bush lackey about criminal behavior and they respond, "So what?" How about responding with, "Where is the accountability? Don't you think you owe the American society and people a price for your criminal behavior or neglect?"
At this point, going after Ken Lay, Madoff and any other corporate criminals is again the same thing as the prosecution, conviction and imprisonment of our privates, corporals and sargeants but no officers for war crimes and torture. In both civil and war crimes, the real criminals are those at the top, Bush/Cheney, and perhaps their complicit, accomplices, and accessories, yes, Pelosi/Reid/Obama.
Don't you get it yet? Bush/Cheney aren't stupid, mistaken, foolish, clueless, simpletons, weak minded ... They are EVIL. We are the ones who fit the description, stupid, mistaken, foolish, clueless, simpletons, weak minded ...
http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2061170&refe...
(The above doesn't seem to be working; just go to Bloomberg.com and down to the middle of the page, click on there if you're interested.)
What complete bullshit.
Yet, the horrific crimes of BushCo will never be addressed now or ever.
Bush will get his, maybe not soon enough for me but the universal system of justice will eventually balance his human misdeeds.
All G-8 economies are regulatory economies. Regulators may be annoying to financial companies, but they are also benefactors. It is silly to have this simple ideology that free markets means no or little oversight. The warning signs were out there for years, neither the Bush Administration nor the Federal Reserve felt any concern about their actions..
One thing Bush is not mentioning as he was doing for years to tie in Social Security privatization and home ownership, "The ownership society" gee whatever happened to that the "legacy" cornerstone of the Bush Administration?
So "I feel a sense of obligation to my successor to make sure there is not a, you know, a huge economic crisis" is not just crap. It needs to be read backwards to be understood. "I have done and will continue to do what I can to leave my successor a huge economic crisis" is consistent not only with that, it is consistent with the kind of fuckery that has consistently been this administration's mark.
After wreaking havok on every sector of society, the one thing that Bush truly regrets is his destruction of capitalism.
The CEO president, ladies and gentlemen.
essentially admitting that the free-market is a failure unless it is saved by socialism.
http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
Anytime "principles" are "abandoned" to save something, that thing is not based on "principles", at least the ones claimed. I think the principle of the GOP is "get away with whatever you can without paying for it". And Bush is still dead-on on that one. The Hague with him.
Someone could make a mint by putting together a DVD of all of Bush's pauses during his speeches where he, you know - he just kind of - like when you know - it ought to be collected down so - kind of for - you know - uh - posterity when folks look back and say - uh - the man was President but he - ya have to know how to talk. Well, I guess just one DVD wouldn't be enough to capture all of Bush's verbal screwups. It would have to be multi-volume set.
Perhaps George Bush's face should be used by MADD as a reason not to drink, or Planned Parenthood should use it as a means of birth control.
Obviously no one is coaching him these days.
Imagine if this is what we had to work with for eight years ... oh that's right we totally did!
Think of it, man...everywhere the little fuck goes, shoes get thrown at him. So many he cringes automatically when anyone leans down to even tie their shoes. Even in the soup and bread lines, poor folk with patched and toe-sticking-out shoes...their last defense against frostbitten shoes, risk them to throw at the litle turd, til he can't go ANYWHERE...
It's only a dream, but man...
He's the original bizzaro-Midas, EVERY goddamn thing he touches turns to shit. Wrong-way Bush. Too dumb to understand all the pain and suffering he's caused.
Even supposedly neutral news reporters start saying the reporter that threw the shoes "took the invasion personally"...what the hell? All those patriotic Bush-lovin' americans would NOT take it "personally" if some country invaded the US, killed civilians in the hundreds of thousands, could ram down your door any time day or night without a warrant, drag families out into the street with potato sacks on their heads, and instead of even handcuffs, just tie-wrap plastic, and yell at the father, daugher, mother, threaten them...
Yeah...WE wouldn't take it "personally", we'd be all grinning and saying to ourselve "hell, I don't like it, but I know it ain't personal or anything, those soldiers just think of us as a bunch of amies, or en-amies..."
Sheeit.