DISQUS

AMERICAblog: Can someone out there get me in touch with Eleanor Smeal?

  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Perfect topic for Oprah and the Kennedy girls oh an HRC too if they're really onboard...
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    How about the View? John Mccain went on the freaking View yesterday. Had Obama jumped on this earlier in the week, McCain would have been forced to answer the question on national tv, or cancel his appearance. One missed opportunity feeds into others.
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 year ago
    you should be running this campaign.
  • SarainKC · 1 year ago
    As Obama keeps telling us- "we are the change we've been waiting for"

    Thanks John for taking the lead on this!
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    But the further associations between McCain/Palin and intentional untruth have to be hammered and hard with pithy Googlable detailsover the next week by tough talking heads like that Ari Melber fellow celebrated here in song and dance.
  • ydthin · 1 year ago
    Is this because Hillary didn't get the nom? Are the feminists ignoring Obama and the dems on purpose? I kinda wonder, I was for Edwards in the primary so I wasn't involved in the infighting between the camps and I know there were alot of hurt feelings and crap. A dem is a dem to me but a lot of people are mightily upset still I think. I hope that is not what is going on...maybe there is some Hillary-lag or something going on within the feminist groups...are they not wanting to 'help' Obama win? I know libs can really trip up over our ideals sometimes and we really should have learned after Nader to face reality and move forward.
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    Well, I heard that when the calls went out for rich Democratic donors to stop funding the 527s, the same call was made telling them to stop funding groups like Planned Parenthood (and VoteVets, among others). If true, then there may be a reason these groups aren't helping Obama, if in fact they're not. I suspect they don't want to see a McCain presidency, but I heard that it's true about folks on our side trying to shut down their money. That's criminally stupid.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I know i am going to take heat for this but I just don't see the importance of this issue UNLESS it can be tied to Palin's religious beliefs. I believe paying for rape kits was done in some states before Joe Biden took up the women's cause. Maybe I missed the articles you posted about how Joe Biden has championed women.

    Just me but I think it would be more positive to show a total picture of Palin being cold and unfeeling while Biden has been a champion.
  • ydthin · 1 year ago
    when you are the mayor of the only town in a huge state that is charging victims, that is weird, and when you are rabidly anti-abortion, it's more than coincidence. The point also is it's not about what happened in the past, it's what's to come. This is what Sarah Palin would like national policy to be across the board, there is a purpose in linking her past heinous behavior and the way that she has used what influence and political power she has gotten to ram her beliefs down the throats of unsuspecting citizens to show that she would do so again if given the chance. I don't think even McCain is this extremest, and the likelihood of him surviving even one term is nothing anyone would lay money on in Vegas. I don't know what judges they may be able to appoint to the Supreme Court but that is always a possibiltity...overturning Roe and possibly Griswold v. Connecticutt is their endgame and the more lunatic fringe ones are just hoping to get all the right people in place.
  • EvilSlutClique · 1 year ago
    We totally agree. Our attempt to get started doing that is here: Joe Biden: Honorary Vagina-American?

    Biden has a long record of working to do good things for women, and Palin is 100% anti-woman but has a vagina. We can certainly see how this is a tough judgment call.
  • El_inNY · 1 year ago
    I don't think it has to be tied to Palin's religous beliefs. The point can be made strongly that Palin is not attuned to women's needs, women's rights and that Palin was recklessly allowing ways for rapists to go free. After all, if a woman couldn't afford a rape kit there is no way dna evidence would be gathered for prosecution.
  • fauxbourdon · 1 year ago
    John - I love your blog - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use your influence to get something done on this subject. I am SO TIRED of watching the Obama campaign let McCain steal this election by sitting there sedately and reflectively while opportunities like this slip away. PLEASE help bring this to the public's attention. If you need to set up a donations page to fund an independent 527 ad or something, I will donate!
  • bunnyjump · 1 year ago
    Thank you John, you are great. From the bottom of my heart, thank you. I'm starting to feel more and more hopeful....WE CAN WIN THIS!

    And in appreciation, a donation coming your way.
  • henrythefifth · 1 year ago
    I keep sayin it, but we need an ad like this:

    Come on 527s!

    (female actor/narrator)

    Joe Biden stood up for women and authored the Violence Against Women Act. He calls it "the single most significant legislation that I’ve crafted in my 35 years."

    And Sarah Palin? As Mayor of Wasilla, she required rape victims to pay hundreds of dollars for their own evidence-gathering rape examinations.

    How out of touch is Sarah Palin? The AK legislature had to pass a bill making it illegal for Sarah Palin to charge rape victims.

    Sarah Palin: Wrong for women, wrong for America.

    (This doesn't even get into the fact that Palin would force these women to keep any offspring, or that the McCain camp implicitly wants to do nothing to stop child molesters by being against teaching "Stranger Danger" and good touch/bad touch to kids, based on their outrageous Obama attach ad)

    (Also, Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, a Dem from Illinois brought up the topic in a Huff Post column, but this needs to get beyond liberal sites).
  • ydthin · 1 year ago
    They really need to hammer home the religious issue with this instead of painting it economical, because economical is something that appeals to logic and people can easily excuse. She is a Feminists for Life member, and their doctrine is no abortion after rape or incest, they call it the "second rape" when a victim is allowed to abort the product of that crime. This is a philosophical belief of hers, not a fiscal policy.
  • SarainKC · 1 year ago
    Too complicated. Keep it simple. It's about crime and the fact that in a McCain/Palin world, unless you have the money to prove it, rapists can rape at will. Your wife, sister, daughter, and mother are not safe. Fear works and this time, knowledge of McCain/Palin views and policies on this is something everyone SHOULD be afraid of. Time to use the fear card and use it now.
  • bunnyjump · 1 year ago
    Excellent!
  • SarainKC · 1 year ago
    Exactly! Leave the abortion issue out of this. This is about crimes against women and the right of the victim to get the evidence needed to prosecute her attackers. Palin and McCain are for justice, provided the victim has the money to pay for it. Maybe they'll be creating some new jobs selling crime insurance?
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Planned Parenthood did a pretty good ad on McCain's support of child sexual abuse.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvpFUYTViLw

    Maybe they'd be willing to tackle the Rape Kit issue?
  • interlude · 1 year ago
    that's a great ad...how many states is it playing in?
    has the Obama campaign produced a response to McCain on this?
  • SarainKC · 1 year ago
    I think it would have a beter impact if Planned parenthood stayed away from this (or at least didn't take the lead). It would appeal even to the staunch anti-choice advocates if this was presented as a crime issue. Women are sitting ducks for rape if we have leadership that forces the victims to pay for the evidence to prosecute their attackers. No matter what your views are on the abortion issue, no woman wants an administration who makes it easier for attackers to rape without fear of prosecution. Having an ad done by a cop in uniform giving today's stats on rape in this country and describing how tough it would be to stop predators if they knew the evidence needed to put them behind bars would have to be financed by their victim under a McCain/Palin administration. Let people realize how vulnerable they and every female will be if McCain and Palin get to exorcize their hostile female policies.
  • interlude · 1 year ago
    good insight....make it a law & order issue

    where is Obama on this???
  • reelactor · 1 year ago
    John, you rock. The only blogger I know who continually gets results.
  • ydthin · 1 year ago
    I'm wondering about this quote by her spokesperson:
    "A Palin spokesperson, contacted by USA Today, said the governor "does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test."'

    So some journalist who still has their testicles needs to ask her is that in effect saying that if said 'evidence gathering kit' is free of pills that will abort the zygote or make the uterine wall inhospitable to it then that is okay with her, and is it the prescense of said pills in the kit that she has a problem with?

    Because she sure did something she didn't believe in by making people pay for those kits, and I bet that deferral is fundie-speak for her wielding her influence her.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    It's a lie anyway.

    According to this article, she had a direct role in making victims pay for the rape kits.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsher...
  • ydthin · 1 year ago
    well, I'm saying that that denial is a non-denial denial. Because it could be interpreted to say that if kits are in fact "evidence gathering" kits, as the spokesbot says, and don't contain abortifacients (sorry for the enemy terminology but it is what it is) then she's all for them. Someone needs to press her on the issue of why she did what she did and was it because of what the kits contain in addition to the crime scene stuff so she doesn't get away with the double talk.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    McCain / Palin has made the Rovian decision to LIE their ASSES off. They don't care what the issue is they know they won't win if they tell the truth. They are rationalizing it with the idea they would "govern us better." Its the "end justifies the means" crap we've lived with for the past eight years. For instance, the American public was lied to about the Iraq War with the Bu$h Admin thinking, "They can't handle the truth, and we know better..." Well, we see how all that worked out! Its time for the media and journalists to do their job and stop this shit. The very least we can expect is to have honest leaders who tell us THE TRUTH. WE CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH!
  • cmpnwtr · 1 year ago
    This is a dynamite wedge issue that should peel away a huge number of voters from McCain/Palin. The Newsweek poll revealed that 57% of McCain women voters didn't even realize he wasn't prochoice. Well, opposed to treatment for rape victims.. explosive issue! Go for it!!
  • Ed_Tracey · 1 year ago
    Why can't Joe Biden take up this issue on the stump, even if Obama doesn't want to (the angry-black-male-and-all). Joe authorized the law, he's qualified to speak on it and he's good about taking on the opposition.
  • joshmo · 1 year ago
    I hate it when people post in caps but...

    TAKING THE HIGH ROAD GOT US INTO 2 TERMS OF BUSHCO POLICY, WE CANT AFFORD ANYMORE. ITS TIME TO HIT BACK, HIT THE ISSUES AND HIT HARD OBAMA... JESUS CHRIST DON'T PULL THIS HIGH ROAD BULLSHIT AND LOSE US ANOTHER TERM!!!

    ...thank you and have a great day.
  • ydthin · 1 year ago
    yeah, I really don't understand it, statistically there have to be some sociopaths in the democratic party that can strategize with the best of republican scum. Do we not pay enough or something?
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    OT:

    McCain/Palin have been lying about the crowds they've been pulling to their rallies.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070...
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Wow....big difference between 23,000 and 8,000.

    to borrow a phrase from A. Sullivan; when they're not lying they're bullshitting.
  • OlderButWiser · 1 year ago
    The horrible truth about Palin is that she (sorry, guys) thinks like a reactionary man, and doesn't really concern herself with what she believes are "feminist" issues (but which affect all women).

    Scrutinize her beauty-pageant answers to Gibson--again. Every single answer sounds warlike, over-confident about her own "knowledge" and totally ignorant.
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 year ago
    John, I will call her also. If you post the information here all of the abloggers can call her.
  • freshpaint · 1 year ago
    With everyone watching the news from Galveston and Houston this weekend, I hope the DNC and Obama/Biden will take this opportunity to get all their facts and talking points lined up (no one I talk to about it can believe it, even ardent Democrats, since it hasn't been reported in the conventional media yet.)

    Once they have a complete package on this, they MUST let loose on the press this coming week relentlessly. It has nothing at all to do with abortion, etc,. and they should not let anyone tell them this.

    Pictures, video should be helpful. Get an actual kit so they can show what's actually in it. Find news clips. It's all out there.

    I would like to think it is not a womens issue, it is a human issue. Thank you John A., who is a REAL MAN, for pushing on this.
  • Gatsbyguy · 1 year ago
    I will donate money to get a rape kit ad on TV. Tell me where, and my credit card is there. That is the ad that will win the election -- or at least could have if Obama had gotten up top of the issue when the story broke. Like someone said, if this ad had been out BEFORE McCain went on the View, McCain would be dropping like a stone.

    That said, and I hate to be a concern troll, but Obama doesn't seem to understand what he's going up against. It's like he never saw what happened to Gore or Kerry. First it was, don't worry about the national polls, it's the state polls that count. Now with him behind in the state polls, they're saying don't worry about the state polls, it's the ground game. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the Obama camp said, it's not about this election it's about the next one....
  • FastAndBulbous · 1 year ago
    The comment that this is a law and order issue is right on the money.

    I am sure that municipal law enforcement, like any other trade, has its trade journals, and that in them there can be found articles about "best practices" or tales of how "what one city did to solve more rape cases", etc. Someone, please, do a journal search so that we can confront Palin with her hand-picked top law-enforcement officer deliberately moving against the advice of his profession and implementing a policy he knew would result in fewer successful prosecutions for one of the most horrific crimes. Then Palin herself literally signs off on his decision. This is a 2-hour job for a smart intern with LexisNexis, and when its the national association of chiefs of police saying that Wasilla's practices lead to more crime, not some dirty damn hippies. it WILL get some press.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    This more than just about Obama. It is about us Americans who want to save our democracy.

    Thanks for doing this!

    Oh, and also thanks for the comic relief. Love the batman photo! :-)
  • OlderButWiser · 1 year ago
    Another thing that pisses me off: Dems and the MSM have allowed the rightwing bullshit artists to steal the phrase "pro-life" when they're not pro-life at all.

    They're anti-abortion and anti-female, plain and simple,because they believe women should stay pregnant in spite of their situation and furthermore, after a baby IS born, the rightwingers want nothing to do with it. You're on your own totally if you follow their ideology. Bait and switch experts...
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    OH, they have stolen almost every word Obama has uttered. Change, more of the same, reform and on and on. It is being done to deliberately confuse the less than educated voters.

    Their philosophy is obviously the old Harry Truman policy "it you can beat 'em then confuse the hell out of them"
  • OlderButWiser · 1 year ago
    Exactly...if they can't frame it in original terms, steal what the Dems are offering. It's going to take a revolution, you know. This election is a sideshow and popularity contest, and I'm already tired of it. Thurs I did voter registration for Obama (although we couldn't advertise it that way, just be "neutral") and I sort of thought in this area it was an exercise in futility, since they almost all around this area are rightwingers.

    I'm hoing the debates bring out the real differences, but I'm not too hopeful, the way the beauty contestant answered Gibson and the Rethugs got away with covering up her ignorance on the pundits' shows...
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    Part of the problem is that folks are still under the impression that the MSM is a real functioning "free press" employing basic journalistic standards to their "reporting".

    They are now and have been for years doing the heavy lifting for the GOP. Quit giving them the benefit of the doubt, they don't deserve it. And they aren't going to change, they are doing what they are being paid to do. We need a way to break them.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    OT

    This is disheartening. Chuck Todd, MSNBC, has pretty much just said the Republicans are going to win. They know how to keep the focus on Palin. Notice he didn't tread into the area of lies, just that Republicans are good at retaining the focus. I am not sure if Obama can get past the Republican lies unless he gets down and dirty. Sure he beat Hillary but she is no GOP slime machine. Repubs know how to win on nothing more than slime.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26676452/
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Well, we still have the Clinton's to thank for the whole Republican line of attacks and using Hillary's attacks against Obama. The Clintons have made it harder for Obama to win and need to come to his rescue.
  • Sialia · 1 year ago
    I'm inclined to think that this may be better handled by a 527 type of organization. (It's a very hot-button issue that might attach negative as well as positive emotions.) However, I just now ponied up $200 to Defenders of Wildlife to pay for one 60-second spot of their "aerial wolf slaughter" ad and I pledge to be in for at least that amount to any group that would run an ad about this.

    I also don't understand why they're not hitting him harder on the anti-choice issue. They had a radio ad out a while back -- after Palin, nothing?
  • mother_bottom · 1 year ago
    that dumb turd palin said one right thing in her gibson interview -- she thought ms. husein-obama regretted not picking mrs. c as a running mate. like palin, i believe the landscape would be much much different now - and palin wouldn't have gotten the nod. someone please tell the obama camp to wake the @#$# up!!!.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    OBAMA / BIDEN - "WAKE THE @#$# UP!!!"

    I agree about Clinton... Palin wouldn't have been chosen if Clinton had been picked and that LOW INFORMATION 19% of voters who are still "undecided" would have split in favor of Obama / Clinton. It would have been a LOT easier. Biden needs to start doing his attack dog job. Otherwise, he needs to step aside and let Clinton join the ticket. I'm sure Hillary would get a lot more tough than, "McCain is my best, honorable friend" Joe Biden. I've been REAL disappointed in his performance.
  • mossy1 · 1 year ago
    Yeah - Obama would've picked his running mate for political expediency just as cynically as McCain did. Women as poker chips.
    That's not femism. That's just the opposite.
  • bdhp · 1 year ago
    I saw an interview with Scott Rasmussen at update@rasmussenreports.com

    He said the important number is 43% of the voters are solid McCain and 39% are solid Obama and the other 18% hold the election in their hands. Now I have an interesting question. It is obvious that something is bothering these people about each candidate. When they get in the voting booth will they be afraid to vote for the black man or will they be afraid to vote for the lunatics? This election is not lost and it will come down to the last day. More Malox please!
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I don't think they are properly taking into account all the young people who are breaking big time for Obama but I don't want to count on that demographic either. Republicans will "game the election" and we have to beat the crap out of them to claim victory (think year 2000)...
  • SouthernYankee · 1 year ago
    YES THAT IS THE QUESTION. But after listening to my Aunt who is a die hard democratic saying the country isn't ready for a black president I was shock as hell. She is 72 yrs old. I thought she wasn't that way because I have a black in law and a couple of gays in my extended family that I love dearly and so does she. She just floored me. I begged her not to vote for McCain. She said she hadn't decided yet. I told her if she won't vote for Obama than vote for Nader, Paul or even Barr because they all want us to get out of Iraq. But to realize that there are people who would rather vote for a lunatic and a black man just is sad.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I really want to see Joe Biden get nasty about some of this stuff. It is HIS JOB as V.P. candidate.

    But, until then, GO ELEANOR! ITS YOUR BIRTHDAY! ITS YOUR BIRTHDAY!
  • mossy1 · 1 year ago
    RELAX, okay?
    I'm a woman, I'm deeply offended at the rape kit info, but I also know if it comes out that A LOT of towns and cities either have victims, women's groups, non-profit groups, anyone but the municipality pay for it, then we will look like hysterical idiots. The Obama campaign has other fish to fry right now, and let's all agree - this is the candidate who vanquished the Clinton machine. Patience!
  • OlderButWiser · 1 year ago
    Rape is a CRIME. The victims should NOT have to pay for either evidence collection or any other aspect of that crime. This is not hysteria. No, I won't have patience over this issue, having been a rape victim myself. I remember how women used to be treated. No more and never again.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    OlderButWiser,

    I am SO SORRY you were a victim!

    I will REMEMBER YOU and resolve to fight even harder on behalf of our A-blogger friend!
  • OlderButWiser · 1 year ago
    Thanks...that was 45 years ago, but you never forget. I'm just one of millions of women affected by rape, and it was one of the reasons I got involved in the women's movement, was a founder of a women's center and became a staunch feminist.

    It may be time to do the same thing over again...the same issues are still around, so it seems.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I know what you are saying about never forgetting. I was a victim of some gay hate crimes, including getting beaten to a pulp, and it does give one more purpose when trying to fight for equal rights for ALL AMERICANS. I fight harder for justice from experiencing American injustice.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    mossy1,

    She was IN CHARGE of Wasilla and forcing women to pay for the "rape kit" and Alaska had to pass a LAW to defend victimized women because of Palin's radical beliefs. This is a great line of attack, and I believe we should exploit it! I will not breath easy until a Democrat takes the oath of office. The last two elections have been a disaster for our country. Many of us can not "just relax" because we know Obama should win "in a walk" and we are seeing the same old pattern of Rovian politics and the Republican's exploitation of ignorance and fear.
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    Yes, there are other fish, fish with lipstick on, I believe. They wouldn't be dealing with those fish had they jumped on this 6 days ago. And I'm sorry, but we need to stop,as Democrats, being intellectuals about these issues. Yes, it's possible if we jumped on an issue that was hideously damaging to mcCain and Plain, it is POSSIBLE that they MIGHT find a response. And? So we don't jump on issue that are horrendously damaging to McCain because, you know, he might respond? Why don't we all just go home then and stop pretending we want to win. By the time McCain comes up with any response at all, he will have spent the week explaining why he doesn't care about rape victims. Not to mention, the only town in Alaska that didn't pay for them - so the argument about "others paying" doesn't fly. No one who hears about this issue - no one - says "gosh, there's a logical reason she did that." If they can't figure out the easy stuff, how are they going to figure out the hard stuff.
  • mossy1 · 1 year ago
    Good grief!
    I'll re-think responding to a post next time.
    Check out Bob Cesca's blog. He has the right idea.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    You are correct, but there is another avenue to takeas well. Make fun of them. Turn them into laughingstocks and they will melt..
  • Upland_Oddball · 1 year ago
    What response to this story, as it stands now, can the Palinbots and McCainiacs come up with that wouldn't be laughable or equally troubling to most Americans? Palin could argue that she did set up a private fund to pay for such rape kits. But if this was true, then why didn't she reveal its existence when the state made the initial fuss? Why didn't her own hometown newspaper report on the fund? She also could argue that she simply didn't know, but what does that tell us about her attention to her duties as mayor? Or she could pull off a Romney, this time refering to Mitten's father, George, and argue that she was brainwashed. Maybe while in Vietnam, which she visited ....er, ummm, she visited by watching a DVD of "Platoon." No, make that the "Green Berets!"
  • jmcon007 · 1 year ago
    The Obama camp probably assumes, correctly, that the story is a net negative for Palin...for those who even know about the story. Why stir the pot yourselves? McCain's goons have probably already written their response to anything Barack might say and, in any event, Barack didn't get to where he is by blindly following concensus advice. I trust the man to pick and choose his fights.
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    I've already explained this repeatedly. Most Democrats don't understand how public relations works. When I run a big campaign on this blog that gets lots of news and makes companies like Microsoft or Ford cave on a big issue, do I sit back, do nothing, and hope the media will cover the story? Or do I write about it incessantly, always finding new angles that give the media more and more stories to write, until the story becomes a fireball, a feeding frenzy? Well, I do the latter. That's what a "campaign" is. I realize you probably don't work in politics, but anyone who does knows that the media doesn't usually create firestorms - you have to help them. Obama isn't helping at all, and that's why this isn't a firestorm. Note what mcCain does, however, he comes out with ads, then members of congress criticize Obama on the house floor, then women do press conferences, they go on tv, he puts crap on his web site, it's a comprehensive response. McCain doesn't sit back and hope the media covers his angle of the story.
  • jmcon007 · 1 year ago
    Point well taken.
  • Happy_Housewife · 1 year ago
    Actually, I think it's a very good idea for the women's groups to raise a big stink about this, and THEN have the Obama camp react to it. It changes the dynamic of the message if it comes from the population that is directly impacted by it, rather than have the "male power structure" seemingly raising it on behalf women. It would also cast the Democrats as being responsive to the concerns of the citizens.

    If we want this election to be about issues - including women's issues - let's turn this particular topic away from Sarah Palin as everywoman, and turn to the real issue of women's health, reproductive rights, and - perhaps most compellingly - victim's rights.
  • OlderButWiser · 1 year ago
    Pam Anderson (for whom I have more respect now): "I hate her." Pam, a PETA activist, noted Palin standing over a moose she had shot., a defenseless animal who couldn't shoot back...and a grizzly bear skin hanging on the wall in the gov's office...
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    My theory:

    McCain / Palin has made the Rovian decision to LIE their ASSES off. They don't care what the issue is they know they won't win if they tell the truth. They are rationalizing it with the idea they would "govern us better." Its the "end justifies the means" crap we've lived with for the past eight years. For instance, the American public was lied to about the Iraq War with the Bu$h Admin thinking, "They can't handle the truth, and we know better..." Well, we see how all that worked out! Its time for the media and journalists to do their job and stop this shit. The very least we can expect is to have honest leaders who tell us THE TRUTH. WE CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH!
  • OlderButWiser · 1 year ago
    Let's just hope the Goldsteins of this country don't prevail...fight for the truth every time. Put everyone on notice!
  • sittenpretty · 1 year ago
    IT LOOKS to me like Gov.Moosellini REALLY ENJOYS TELLING the great lies...she smiles boldly and dares the public/media to CALL HER ON IT...she is REALLY ENJOYING this you can see it in her face
  • Ellies_Assistant · 1 year ago
    Ellie's son alerted us to your post. I look forward to hearing from you on Monday!
  • Beverly33 · 1 year ago
    Does Obama even want to win? Why is he still holding back? The longer he waits it only makes him look weak and ineffectual. The GOP knows that and will continue it's brazenly dishonest attacks. Obama needs to get his act together and get a backbone.
  • Sialia · 1 year ago
    I am inclined to think that an ad like this might be better from a 527-type organization. I just ponied up $200 for the Defenders of Wildlife "aerial wolf slaughter" ad and $50 for an ad from Truth and Hope, and I pledge to be in for at least $200 for any ad about this topic.

    I also don't understand why the campaign isn't hitting them harder on the choice issue. A while back they had a radio ad that took it on squarely but now, nothing? It's even more important now!
  • boloboffin · 1 year ago
    So let me get this straight.

    Sarah Palin's police chief began to charge rape victims for their own rape kits. Sarah Palin signed the budgets that allowed this to happen. The Alaska State Legislature had to step in to stop this despicable practice.

    And it just so happens that part of a rape kit involves emergency contraception, something Sarah Palin is explicitly against.

    Paging Eleanor Smeal, indeed. McCain should just wave goodbye to all the women that flocked to him after the convention. This trumps Rape Gurney Joe by an order of magnitude.
  • SouthernYankee · 1 year ago
    I just put www.NOW.com = I got a bunch of information. Just try that. Hopefully it will be helpful
  • macsurf · 1 year ago
    Joe Biden, author of the Violence Against Women Act should be all over this. He should be out in front calling her to task.
  • CMB · 1 year ago
    Chill out!!!

    The Obama Campaign won't waste this golden opportunity. But, it will wait for the right moment to run with this.

    Look at how the Obama Campaign is nailing the McCain camp to the wall on the lying. Had it done that a week or two earlier, the MSM and people paying attention might have found that the Obama Campaign was overreacting and being unfair to McCain. By waiting, it's a lot harder to criticize the Obama Campaign for calling McCain and Palin liars.

    Do you want the rape-kit story to get lost in the shuffle? Right now, the Obama Campaign has other narratives to run with (McCain is not a change agent & McCain/Palin are congenital liars).

    Don't underestimate the value of message control. There are 52 days until the election. There is plenty of time to use this gem. If a 527 were to run with it now, the Obama campaign's narratives could get lost in the shuffle.
  • KyleP · 1 year ago
    Can we possibly find an actual rape victim that had to pay for her or his rape kit?
  • EllaDisenchanted · 1 year ago
    FROM YOUR OTHER THREAD SOMEONE STATED: I should add that the contraception offered in these instances would either be Plan B or something called the Yuzpe method which is 4 tablets of a high dose oral contraceptive. It would not be RU486 which does expel an implanted ovum. Plan B and the second method have several modes of action, including prevention of implantation of a fertilized ovum in the uterus, but these modes of action do NOT include aborting an already established ovum.

    Just to add:
    Birth control and high dose contraceptives are SEEN, by the radical anti-choice crowd, as abortofactants simply because they COULD expel the FERTILIZED ovum itself regardless of implantation. That's the whole reason they see birth control pills as evil.

    This new information about the rape kits is about as frightening as it can get. What they HELL are Obama's people waiting for?!
  • Upland_Oddball · 1 year ago
    Just read the Associated Press (AP) story on this. Seems that the McCain/Palin campaign can't help but to lie on any matter, in any forum. The AP ended its story "Under Mayor Palin, Wasilla charged victims for rape kits," with the following;

    "Maria Comella, a spokes-woman for the campaign of Palin and John McCain, said that Palin "does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test."

    She may be parsing by emphasising the "evidence-gathering" properties of the test, which Palin would support, as opposed to the feature in standard rape kit tests that allows choice in keeping a possibly fertilized egg or in stopping its further development. The latter she not support or want the public to pay for. Overall, this statement is still another big lie, told to the face of the AP reporter.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    John A. i am with you 100% on this issue, i just don't think it's too late for Obama to get on it. We've got over a month left and the way things go so fast these days, I wonder if they're just saving up some real zingers for the end...
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 year ago
    no, obama is not saving anything. Look at our history... we though Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry were all strategizing....

    they were not! There were fucking pussies and they lost.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
  • wsteele · 1 year ago
    Please don't waste this nice piece of artillery at a time when any damaging information on Palin is considered angry liberal media h0rsesh!t.
  • boloboffin · 1 year ago
    Some pushback I'm getting from a forum I frequent (sort of a neutral ground):

    Alaska has had a Violent Crime Compensation Board (VCCB) since 1971. Victims of violent crime can apply for compensation in case their other options have been exhausted.

    http://www.state.ak.us/admin/vccb/faq_victims.s...

    Illinois has one of these, too -- a Crime Victims Compensation Board (CVCB). It was started in 1973.

    http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/victims/...

    Righties are claiming that the Alaskan women could have received compensation from the VCCB for any expense Wasilla did not cover. And since Obama had to change the law to get the Illinois women to be compensated, Illinois was worse than Alaska.

    I don't see that the VCCB actually did compensate for rape kits. Wasilla was the only community, it seems, that charged rape victims, and only under the Palin administration. When the Alaskan legislature finally forced Wasilla to provide the rape kits, the police chief complained that he did charge insurance when he could, and filed for the perpetrator to pay restitution otherwise. He DIDN'T mention the VCCB compensation in his homina-homina-homina, though.

    So I don't think the VCCB did compensate for rape kits ever. And after the Alaska law was passed, making the municipalities pay, they wouldn't have had to. The Illinois CVCB does now, but only because Obama got the law changed.

    Be careful out there.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    Women say no to Sarah the Wolfkiller:

    http://womenagainstsarahpalin.blogspot.com/
  • middlegirl · 1 year ago
    I did voter registration yesterday for Obama. The women volunteers that I worked with didn't know about the rape kits. They were gasping, they were so stunned. This is not an issue for the Obama Campaign to take on. John is so right, this is a NOW issue. Women's groups should take this on. It will be more powerful. Lets all call or email our local NOW and the national group and encourage them.
  • El_inNY · 1 year ago
    John, you make a great point, one that I've been thinking for several day, that the Democrats HAVE to get out there. Eleanor Smeal is one way, but I believe that each and every female surrogate--congressional or otherwise,as well as Joe Biden needs to repeat this meme. John McCain is also a culprit because he voted against Biden's rape kit legislation. John McCain and his running mate can and should be tied together for being reckless on something that is so vital to the means of providing justice to female victims of rape and and for preventing crimes against women. It is a major character issue that is based on the records of both people on the Republican ticket. I think that this is a tactic that the Obama camp needs to come out of hiding and go directly on. It can and should be done using the facts, which are on the side of truth.
  • EvilSlutClique · 1 year ago
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