DISQUS

unpoetaloco · 1 year ago

Yet another pronouncement from an other man who wears a dress for a living. I'd just as soon listen to a drag queen than a cardinal who dresses in drag.

Webster · 1 year ago

As an old drag queen friend of mine used to say: "it doesn't matter who you love, or how you love, only that you love."

That's the kind of gospel I can believe in.

naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago

Now which pope was that? You did say "old drag queen".

scytherius · 1 year ago

Be glad these people run the religious show. It's why people are leaving churches and younger people want no part of them. The Right is just going to look loonier and loonier over the next four years.

kladinvt · 1 year ago

More irrelevance from pedophilia central!

michaelt · 1 year ago

and i'm sure this brain donor just loves him some bush.

DavidinPS · 1 year ago

Okay, time for Catholics to shout this man down. In print and in person.

shanobama · 1 year ago

As if a man of the cloth could understand or tell a woman about sexuality or what to do with her own body. feh.

He would rather women (and gays) be punished by the church.
I think his speech is apocalyptic, he is railing (in his meek, rabid dismissive way) that his form of punishment is slipping from the hands of the church.

CitizenX · 1 year ago

The great whore of Rome speaks.

nicho · 1 year ago

Are all of these people nuts? God, it used to be just one or two -- now, they're all ranting like Michael Savage.

In 2003 Cardinal Stafford was appointed Major Penitentiary, in which position he oversees matters pertaining to indulgences and the internal forum of the Church.

He's one of the people who sells indulgences. That explains a lot. Probably not a growing market these days.

troqua · 1 year ago

I guess if he can make assumptions about a "clenched jaw" I can make assumptions, too. This man clearly looks and sounds like a pedophile.

Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago

He's tall, slender and has a nice looking wife. Probably has a good sex life, too.

Shit, somebody call the Pope.

prochoicelib · 1 year ago

Father Coughlin!

lucky hussein · 1 year ago

I thought palin had the 'mean jawline'?
bishops and cardinals are somewhat ignored (as I have heard) by many ordinary catholics. they need to do something about these reich-wing freaks..

prochoicelib · 1 year ago

No. She punishing women who are raped by forcing them to give birth and paying for the rape kit.

kevinbgoode · 1 year ago

When is the diocese going to be place on the sex offender list?

dcredhead · 1 year ago

Hey, Catholic Church --

STAY OUT OF MY BOX.

Have a nice day.

rextrek1 · 1 year ago

I couldn't even listen to the whoe thing...this just "Re-affirms" WHY I'm an X-catholic...and have NOTHING to do whatsoever with any Organized religions.....Hate-mongers the lot of them..baring thier FALSE WITNESS,LIES,and Distortions....about a man who believes in "Choice"..? Oh how horrible......Aaarrgh! You never hear them going on and on about the Warmongering GOP,the Lying,Stealing of the American Treasury, the Torture of Prisoners....the 100's of 1000's of Innocent dead.........I'd like to tell this asshole off to his face!

Brian · 1 year ago

I still want to know what these people will say to themselves after eight years of Obama when the world is still perfectly intact. I know they won't admit they were wrong, but man, I just...don't...get...how.

AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago

I know there is a nascent anti-abortion movement saying that the way to deal with the "problem" of abortion doesn't lie in politics.

At some point, don't these rabid anti-choice people feel abused by politicians just taking them for suckers? What have they gotten in return?

MaudGonne · 1 year ago

By REUTERS

Filed at 4:33 p.m. ET

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California's Attorney General on Monday urged the state Supreme Court to consider whether a gay marriage ban passed by voters this month was legal. The state's top lawyer, former governor Jerry Brown, said the court should keep the ban in place while it considers the issue -- and it should rule quickly.
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/washington/polit...

Topher · 1 year ago

This is a positive development. They could have taken the opposite position, which would have been for the Court to throw out the case without considering the merits. I'm very curious as to how the State of California will "respond" to the legal challenge, given the legislature, Court and governator have all stated that same-sex marraige should be legal in California.

OT, but important to note. How can Reuters get the basic facts wrong? From the cited article:

"Only a handful of states, provinces and European countries recognize same-sex marriage and gay marriage advocates have demonstrated vocally around the country since the November 4 vote."

Is Canada a "province" or am I missing something? Did Reuters forget that our neighboring country to the north also has marraige equality?

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Those old guys need to get laid.

(And not with young boys either.)

vkobaya · 1 year ago

What makes you think these old guys aren't getting laid. And, not only with young boys, but young girls too.

paulbe · 1 year ago

Religion has always been a hiding place for dysfunctional noxious people. It allows them access to money, sex and power without responsibility and all they have to do is appear to believe, to the point of authority, some abject nonsense invented generations ago by equally noxious, dysfunctional people.

green_libertarian · 1 year ago

Right, the 85% of the country who are believers are ALL dysfuntional noxious people.

Good luck with that bigoted belief, but you'll go far.

GWMustGo · 1 year ago

"Why do so many religions have to be run by such angry people?"

Those zealots (any flavor of any religion) are so absolutely damned sure of their particular version of belief that if somebody even DARES to disagree, they are heathens and sub-human. Most religious and non-religious folks seem to have a grip on reality in that they don't insist that THE WHOLE WORLD follow *their* belief. These fascists (Goodwin shoots and scores!) have no such grasp on reality.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Notice they have no problem with Bush killing hundreds of thousands of swarthy people.

AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago

I remember back in the '90's, the Catholic church opened a rehab facility for for alcoholic and drug-addicted priest and nuns (they also sent the some pedophiles there too) in a small town in New Mexico (near my where my sister lived). The locals were scared to death to let their children out alone. They ruined normal family life in town for years.

The kids wanted to know why they couldn't talk to the priests and nuns and the parents had to explain -- it was a mess.

moreleesafer · 1 year ago

They are pro-life....except for them "Muslins"

truebluecoondog · 1 year ago

And don't forget about Obama's cloven hooves!!! And his strangely dark complexion.

I'm glad that this man of the cloth knows so much about sex and pregnancy and that he has been specifically trained to spot people with apocolyptic jawlines. I only wish he told us sooner so that we could find a suitable replacement to be our leader. Someone maybe who we'd like to have a beer with. Someone who wouldn't hesitate to open up a can of whoop-ass and demolish those brown countries with no regard to women, children or even our own youth trained to kill in order to bring about the rapture and the end times. Who's apocolyptic.?

Apphouse50 · 1 year ago

ALERTNESS! BAD!

bumpkis · 1 year ago

godamn old white men....

nikto · 1 year ago

The cardinal of Baltimore is ignorant scum who probably
finds breathing complicated.



The cardinal of Baltimore is worth far less than Obama's feces.

Far, far, FAR less.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

He fancies himself quite the body language expert, doesn't he?

nikto · 1 year ago

The Cardinal should be investigated and subpoened immediately.


How many children has he sodomized??

C'Mon, how many??

Answer the question, Cardinal:

HOW MANY CHILDREN HAS THE CARDINAL OF BALTIMORE SODOMIZED?


Good Guess: LOTS.

boloboffin · 1 year ago

And he weeps over abortion because that means less children to sodomize.

johnt66 · 1 year ago

I THINK HE SHOULD BE ANGRY AT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEX WITH UNDERAGE CHILDREN.

Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago

what's most disgusting about this is the deliberate misinterpretation of what obama said about being "punished with a pregnancy". obama was saying that abstinence teaching should be backed up with contraceptive choices to avoid pregnancy. his point was that it is cruel to leave young people with no alternatives, ie, to effectively ramp up the pain if they don't abstain. the sanctimonious religious right wants you to believe that an unwanted pregnancy is not painful because every child is a miracle.

Asterix · 1 year ago

Anyone know for sure if His Eminence is an Opus Dei wingnut?

These idiots have been working very hard since Paul VI to utterly obliterate any of the ecumenical ism that was so successfully promoted by John XXIII.

Damn them and their small corrupt minds.

nikto · 1 year ago

Are we up to the last Pope yet?



I'm ready.

truebluecoondog · 1 year ago

Hey, did anyone watch that CNN special on Jonestown this weekend??? Funny how all of the survivors remained spiritual but none of them believe in organized religion any more. They've been to the edge and have seen the dangers and the carnage first hand.

I'll be the good cardinal watched it. Looking for tips.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

I'm confused.

Is he Cardinal of Baltimore or just a Cardinal FROM Baltimore?

From the writeup, it seems like the latter.

skeptic · 1 year ago

Why do so many religions have to be run by such angry people.

Because they know that they are going to HELL when they die.

Older_Wiser · 1 year ago

Someone should tell the cardinal (what a shitbird!) that it's not normal for grown people to suppress their sex drive to the point that they're truly perverted.

And if they want to live like medieval ignoramuses, they should all be wearing sackcloth and ashes...

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Sounds like he was Bishop in Denver, then moved to Rome.

Usually, when they move a Bishop to Rome, it's because he's bad news and they want to keep an eye on him.

empirecookie · 1 year ago

"Aggressive, disruptive, apocalyptic"

Gee, not at all like your assessment of him. No, your comments are totally reasonable and level headed.

Fuck you. What a bunch of disgusting wanking hypocrites. They just make me sick.

paulbe · 1 year ago

OOh somebody's a fundie catholic. This mightn't be the site for you. try Sesame Street

Sharoney · 1 year ago

Dipping into the Communion wine again?

KeithNovo · 1 year ago

He doesn't want his daughters punished for having sex! None of us took the silly vow of celibacy, nor would I ever! Keep the eunichs for the kingdom of heaven in the hierarchy and out of our face! If the prelates want us to become as anticlerical as the rest of the Catholic world, so be it!

1970cs · 1 year ago

This is the product of spending a lifetime in seminaries and inside the bubble of the church. Never having worked a day in his life, and making a living telling others how to live their lives.

movalca · 1 year ago

OK, here's what's confusing. The "Bible" talks about the end of days and supposedly Obama is the anti-christ that is going to bring on the "end of days". If that is true wouldn't opposing him be against "God's will"?

moreleesafer · 1 year ago

seeee that's the kind of question that gets you kicked out of Sunday School when you are 7. Happened to me more that once.

<sigh> yeah, they don't like us critical thinkers messing up their stories and predictions.

Asterix · 1 year ago

THE HIPPOPOTAMUS

by: T.S. Eliot (1888-1965)

THE broad-backed hippopotamus
Rests on his belly in the mud;
Although he seems so firm to us
He is merely flesh and blood.

Flesh-and-blood is weak and frail,
Susceptible to nervous shock;
While the True Church can never fail
For it is based upon a rock.

The hippo's feeble steps may err
In compassing material ends,
While the True Church need never stir
To gather in its dividends.

The 'potamus can never reach
The mango on the mango-tree;
But fruits of pomegranate and peach
Refresh the Church from over sea.

At mating time the hippo's voice
Betrays inflexions hoarse and odd,
But every week we hear rejoice
The Church, at being one with God.

The hippopotamus's day
Is passed in sleep; at night he hunts;
God works in a mysterious way--
The Church can sleep and feed at once.

I saw the 'potamus take wing
Ascending from the damp savannas,
And quiring angels round him sing
The praise of God, in loud hosannas.

Blood of the Lamb shall wash him clean
And him shall heavenly arms enfold,
Among the saints he shall be seen
Performing on a harp of gold.

He shall be washed as white as snow,
By all the martyr'd virgins kist,
While the True Church remains below
Wrapt in the old miasmal mist.

ezpz · 1 year ago

What I want to know is how many children did this *cardinal* molest.
How many molesting priests did he help relocate to avoid exposure and prosecution?

Answer those questions, cardinal; then we can talk about an antichrist.

cole3244 · 1 year ago

to be so angry, he must have missed his daily dose of boy that day.

Indigo · 1 year ago

"Aggressive, disruptive and apocalyptic."
Oh, my gracious! Quick! The smelling salts!
Lady Marchmain has fainted.

Sharoney · 1 year ago

Props for the Brideshead Revisited reference.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Looks like he's not based in Baltimore, he just grew up there.

I think he's based at this church in Rome.

The church of San Pietro in Montorio was built on the site of an earlier ninth-century church dedicated to St. Peter on Rome's Janiculum hill. Commissioned by Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain, it marks a traditional location of St. Peter's crucifixion.

The church's current Cardinal-Protector is James Francis Cardinal Stafford, since 1 March 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Pietro_in_Mont...

Nice place, if you like old stuff.

woodroad34 · 1 year ago

Well, it seems that Obama won't have his Justice Dept. would go after anyone involved in the criminal and harsh interrogation techniques during Bush's administration. That means no war crimes hearings:

"Obama's most ardent supporters are split on whether he should prosecute Bush officials.

Asked this weekend during a Vermont Public Radio interview if Bush administration officials would face war crimes, Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy flatly said, "In the United States, no."

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20081117/D94GU...

With that kind of compassion towards one of the Cardinal's like-minded brethern, he should be happy. I guess he's the real agent of the Devil.

Rufus · 1 year ago

Revoke the tax exempt status on all religions in the U.S. -- the increased tax would probably wipe out our $10 trillion national debt.

Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago

He needs a blow job more than any white man on the face of the earth.

davidinchelseama · 1 year ago

What he needs is a swift kick in the ass.

ThingsComeUndone · 1 year ago

Have you seen his face I think he gots one of those diseases.

naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago

My God! They should talk about betrayal and Gethsemane? Tell that to your thousands of SNAP victims, Archbishop McPhoney.

Kansaskitty · 1 year ago

Clenched jaw? WTF? He must have someone else confused with Obama or he's been into the altar wine again.

empirecookie · 1 year ago

no shit! I think he was looking in the mirror (except then there would have been a scary black man looking back at him and not some pickled white guy).

lauren1959 · 1 year ago

He's in state of constant alertness? That's a bad thing? Haven't we had a pro life guy who never thought ahead? Isn't that the problem with most of the anti-choice crowd?

This man is angry, dishonest and really scary....

Wolfsinger · 1 year ago

Media Matters has been trying to make the case for years to the MSM and the public at large that through local/national hate radio and pulpits of every Christian stripe, hate, fear and intolerance is the fuel that drives the engine of the Republican party.

Sarah Palin - the Christian rights answer to everything with her man-walks-with-dinosaurs, 6 thousand year old Earth, anti-intellectualism, witch hunting, bright new GOP future leader manifestation of this hate in high heels is proof positive that the Republican party is chock full of deviants, psychopaths and sociopaths hell bent on destroying the fabric of a civil nation of secular laws.

They will not fade away gently into the sunset of the new day for this nation born Nov 4th. No. They see their way as they ONLY way any ANY other way is a threat to their existence. Guns sales are booming. The hate rhetoric is growing more outrageous by the day. While their total numbers continue to ebb, those that remain are embolden to fight. To them, these are indeed, "the end times. "

But, history has proven that these types are cold hearted cowards to their very core. For when one ultra deranged soul leaps in the abyss of acting on the hate they espouse so freely, they say, "Hey! It Wasn't ME! I wasn't to blame!"

Heaven help us all.

RitornaVincitor · 1 year ago

Great post. These people don't trust people. They don't trust themselves. They don't trust humanity. That's why they turn to the rule books - the bibles - the korans - the churches. They think people are basically evil, and good has to be imposed upon people from outside. They look outside themselves for truth and guidance. They turn to flawed institutions and battle over each line of outdated text. Just look at the thousand-year-old schism between the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox. How many thousands of people have died over the question of whether the Holy Spirit is equal to or proceeds from the Father and the Son? Who cares?! And just look at the Armenian and Greek Orthodox monks brawling just last week over some stupid procession at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem. In their quest for good the churches have made a mess of themselves. No wonder they have made such a mess of the world.

Wolfsinger · 1 year ago

Yes. It seems that "the Church" be it by any name can't get out of their own way. History is rife with the blood that has been spilled in the name of religion. "the Church" specifically in this case, the Christian right churches that drive today's Republican party understands the power of fear and hate of what it refuses to learn and understand. To hate is a choice. To choose to stay ignorant is a choice. To close ones mind to the wonders and reality of a complex world is a choice.

JamesR · 1 year ago

I don't think "Catholics" weep over these words. Priests weep over this, The Catholic Church weeps, or really will weep - when it finds out it's members find this type of trash-talk alienating, divisive and irrelevant. This out of touch old man is still inveighing against BIRTH CONTROL!

He is so upset that he sees a guy who can't be influenced by their bullshit. Boo hoo hoo. He has principles. Damn him!

Never mind Obama would do more to end the 'apocalyptic' death of the unborn by making the lives better for the potential parents and society so that people feel secure enough to have and raise children properly.

foxy · 1 year ago

All this Pop 8 stuff etc. is making them SCARED.

LawMichigander · 1 year ago

What is with these corrupt people? Why is the church so corrupt? Why are old unmarried guys giving advice on relationships they know nothing about? Why is a foreign Church acting in American politics?

Soaplady57 · 1 year ago

You are right, LawMichigander. Unmarried AND many who are child molesters!! I honestly don't believe that people were put on earth to
NEVER have sex!!

Sharoney · 1 year ago

As the old Italian grandmother once said, "They no play-a the game, they no make-a the rules."

RitornaVincitor · 1 year ago

As one of the religious groups that went after my marriage and shot it down, I would describe the Catholic Church as aggressive and disruptive. As for "apocalyptic", that is a biblical term. I don't believe in any of that nonsense. As far as I know I still have the right not to believe.

ThingsComeUndone · 1 year ago

Any guesses on what is wrong with his face?

vkobaya · 1 year ago

Somehow I have the feeling that the basis of this is racism. The Catholic Church was upset at Kerry who was a Catholic, but didn't call him the anti-Christ. Going as far as calling Obama the anti-Christ smacks of singling out the first Black man to be elected president of this nation. And why doesn't he have anything to say about Obama's running mate, Biden. He is neglected, I suspect, because he is a White man. And, then he has no condemnation for the vast crimes, millions of murders condemned by Bush. Sick!

SouthernYankee · 1 year ago

The Bishop of Scranton did say something about it. He isn't happy at all. In fact alot of priests are talking about these catholic pols and not getting communion. They keep going on like this there won't be anymore catholics. Especially giving to the church. I know I won't put any money in the collection basket any longer.

naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago

Racism, surely, with that priest in SC, but don't forget that these clowns are seeing their chances of overturning Roe v. Wade going down the sink.

NotSure · 1 year ago

These pathetic scared men (and their female enablers) peddling the Sky God Dominance bullshit sure are freaking out these days. LOL

Once the sheep start to figure out the con it's hard work to get things back under control

These scumbags jackoff to the good old Dark Ages. That's when the con was strong and the sheep dumb. Good times for these leeches.

Hell for them should be the rest of us laughing at them!

anarchy · 1 year ago

Catholic.. Catholic.. oh yeah, it's that old religion
where the priests would molest the young altar boys.

and WHY does anybody care about whatever poop
spouted from the mouth of this Cardinal Hate fellow?

please remind me as I haven't a clue why any right-
minded person would care.

I think my friend said that his great great great great
grandmother was a Catholic but he also said she was
a bitter mean-spirited old hag and everybody in their
family is glad she's dead.

I feel sorry for Baltimore.

SouthernYankee · 1 year ago

Don't blame Baltimore. I don't know if you are aware but 52% of catholics voted for Obama vs 42% for McCain. Not all priests are bad. There have been many preachers also that have messed around with children not just priests.

yellowdogdem · 1 year ago

Enough of this claptrap. I hesitate to weigh in, because this whole subject has become so tiresome and it's almost impossible to have a reasoned discussion about abortion.

I didn't actually hear the Eminence call Obama the Antichrist, but the implications are all there. This is way over the top. I suppose what's even more infuriating is the faux mild-mannered way it was delivered. This cardinal has a shiv up his rochet. The rhetoric is shameful, and he ought to know better. This is a democracy, or at least it was, and the Roman Catholic Church, the last time I looked, was not the established religion.

As for democracy, what these people really want is to criminalize abortion. The polemical rhetoric of pro-life and pro-choice, hurled against each other, does a good job of obscuring this, which is probably intended, and the criminalizing fanatics have achieved a propaganda victory over time in suckering those who don't think criminalization is a good idea into fighting on the pro-choice turf -- a bad long-term strategic choice.

But what do these people really want? They want to end abortion. OK. Assuming that's a good idea, and that it's even possible, how does one get there? By putting the doctor in jail? By putting the mother in jail? By putting those who inform people of abortion services in jail? And for how long? Or should it be a capital offense, so that we forfeit one life for another? Is that Roman Catholic morality? Those Catholics like Randall Terry, who would justify bombing abortion clinics, seem to think so. Fact is, abortion was a crime in most or all states for much of our history. It didn't stop abortions. It just drove them underground, with all the doleful consequences thereof. If Roe v. Wade is overturned, it will simply allow the matter of criminalization to be decided state by state. You can bet there will be states that will not take the bait. So do we then allow the state of residence, where abortion is a crime, to convict and sentence those who provide information about where to find an abortion in another state? And convict and sentence the mother when she returns home? Aren't there constitutional interstate commerce problems here? Or does the constitutional amendment we're asked to support trump every other right in the Constitution?

The real, moral problem with the criminalizationists is that they presume that abortion is a morally detached philosphical choice (that word again, where both polemical sides are singing from the same hymnbook). But that's crazy. Very few people think abortion is a good idea in itself. I venture that there are also very few women who have abortions because they want to strike a blow for women's freedom by killing their young. Not the kind of thing you can deal with by outlawing it. This is not, as the Roman Catholic Church would make it, a battle of abstractions. The phenomenon is rather linked to poverty, desperation, ignorance of birth control (oh, yeah, I suppose some of the criminalizationists want to put people in jail for that, too), economic pressures, helplessness, irresponsible fathers, and a whole host of other things. When the circumstances of women's lives in those respects are alleviated, the number of abortions goes down, as it did during the Clinton administration.

So what is the moral choice (that word, again), here, Roman Catholic Church? Something that provides you with self-righteous justification for calling people who want a reasoned approach to this social problem baby-killers? In an endless propaganda war of denunciation in the service of an objective you won't be candid about describing and that wouldn't work even if you were able to implement it? What is the moral choice here? And if you won't engage these questions thoughtfully and pragmatically in a pluralistic society, then please have the humility to shut up.

Webster · 1 year ago

I'm reminded of the comment, "If Priests could get pregnant, then abortion would be a sacrament."

munjoyfan · 1 year ago

Some great comments here. If you were raised Catholic, this guy pushes some buttons, not only with the content of his remarks, but the cadence of his delivery and his hint of an Irish lilt. He represents a certain bureaucratic prince class in the Church, and is probably a Vatican high lifer, rather than someone with a caseload. I doubt he hears confessions or says Mass in a local church on a regular basis or brings communion to hospitals or serves soup in a soup kitchen or counsels newly arrived Sudanese on how to find safe housing. And the red skin looks like rosaceae, a skin disease that the Irish are prone to which has nothing to do with alcohol--though alcohol makes it worse. This guy needs a hug. Not from me, though.
Truly, the majority of Catholics are not this racist (I hear a lot of testosterone in this speech, and a hint of "fear the uppity n-word"). See Bill Mahar's wonderful Religulous. There are some good priests out there. And remember all those Maryknolls in Latin America who tried to organize the indigenous people against the CIA and the Bush-Reagan drug trade.
Ora pro nobis et pro Pater Stafford.

RIPWAMU · 1 year ago

Honestly, he doesn't deserve that much thought. Just send him to the Vatican pasture where he and the others can look fondly back at the choir boys of yore.

SouthernYankee · 1 year ago

Oh Father you look like you have had alittle to much wine. Just look at those rosey cheeks.

brb915 · 1 year ago

I do't think I'm Hell bound if I were to say STFU you redfaced, self important, ignorant, biggoted, stupendously assinine, overblown wad of insignificance.

AdAstra · 1 year ago

Here is the cogitive dissonance for me. Abortions went down under Clinton. Up under Bush. But then, never let facts get in the way. And if this geezer thinks he's one of the white men, he hasn't looked in a mirror lately.....

MNUSA · 1 year ago

That's the difference between the Democrats' pro-family policies as opposed to the Repubs' anti-family, pro-corporate policies.

renegademom · 1 year ago

he looks like an alcoholic to me. go to a meeting, Cardinal.

gonzalez · 1 year ago

I'm a catholic and I still detest this idiot's message. Who in hell is he to tell other people how to live their lives. As I see it, he does not like President elect Obama because he may not listen to the church. Screw the church and all of these idiots. No wonder the catholic church is going DOWN! What assholes! Bunch of child molesters!

RIPWAMU · 1 year ago

That's a catholic cardinal for you, you betcha! Holier than thou and full of hypocrisy.

gonzalez · 1 year ago

We need to start puching the IRS to investigate these people and take the tax break away.

StevenJ · 1 year ago

I have seen reports of an large increase of threats to Obama since winning the election. This could be because of people like this cardinal spewing hate to the masses. There are a lot of unstable people out there, including this cardinal. Unstable combined with Obama being black you start to see the crazies come out of the woodwork.

RIPWAMU · 1 year ago

Hmmphh, that cardinals ass is clenched so tight he can barely form a thought.

He obviously needs to be removed and sent to pasture.

HarpoSnarx · 1 year ago

"aggressive, disruptive and apocalyptic"

More Wholly Roman Catholic Apostolic inner projection.

Image the horror of some poor alter boy having that siddle up to 'em.

cmoorehead · 1 year ago

Usually, when they move a Bishop to Rome, it's because he's bad news and they want to keep an eye on him.

Or they're trying to make him extradition-proof, like pederast-enabler Bernard Law...

naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago

Yes, and they recently moved the bishop or archbishop of St. Louis, Burke, to Rome too. There are quite a few dioceses left where the shit hasn't hit the fan yet so maybe the pope is moving them preemptively?

mattycakes · 1 year ago

We should all forget about religions. We should all just remain spiritual, believe in God (if someone wants to), be peaceful, no more wars, love one another for what we are. Religions just want "followers" like a cult. They spew untruths, and seem to subliminally "brainwash" people, and we should all email President-Elect Obama, and tell him like "Rufus" said, make them pay taxes like everyone else. There seems to be so much nastiness now, since Barack Obama was elected. The Catholic Church needs to go, along with all the others. The bible says "cast no judgement", and yet that is all they are doing! Shame on all of them.

mattycakes · 1 year ago

I just emailed the Archbishop of Baltimore to tell him how disgusting his Cardinal is and that the Catholic Church should do something about this man who is spewing "hate" about Barack Obama. I told him that the only one that is the anti-christ, is that Cardinal.

tw9ff · 1 year ago

This guy's is a lying sack of crap. He took several of the comments from the speech out of context and I can find, NOWHERE, the comments about protecting his daughters from an "tragic pregnancy". Somebody made up crap for him to read.

MNUSA · 1 year ago

Too much time is spent by some religious leaders worrying about politics and not enough time doing the work of God. It's all about power and control - particularly control over women.

Sage24 · 1 year ago

This hypocrite should stop feigning religious outrage, and perhaps spend his time trying to stop his fellow priests from molesting little children.
Perhaps his concern will be well suited within the church.

heathwood · 1 year ago

I was born and raised Catholic, in fact 16 years of Catholic schooling. I was proud to be taught by the Servites, who marched with Dr. King, and the Irish Christian Brothers and Jesuits who taught the value of diversity and tolerance. Now I hear this and a lot of the recent ramblings on the Catholic Church and have to say, enough is enough. Unless the church allows women to be priests, supports gay rights and allows for others to believe that separation of church and state means just that, I'm done. I wonder if the Cardinal wonders why the church pews are empty in many parishes on Sunday. The Church needs to look in the mirror. They are the cause of dispute in this country not the folks they rail against.

interlude · 1 year ago

his Ominousness would make a great hunting buddy with Cheney.

mgardener · 1 year ago

Somewhere Jesus is weeping for they know not what they do !!

Wesinoregon · 1 year ago

He's most likely a racist pig.

jlo422 · 1 year ago

This is the reason why we have to start taxing the churches. Along with the Mormons and the money the funnelled into Prop 8, we need to aggressively pursue revoking the church exempt status from these denominatons.

If they want to tell everyone how to live their lives, they should pay their admission price like everyone else.

They have the nerve to judge or condemn us from their alter for voting for Obama or any other Democrat, then these hypocrites pass around the baskets asking for money which eventually is used to pay for the lawsuits to protect the pedophile clergy.

willie · 1 year ago

These dirty little men spoke nothing about their exploits of young boys for centuries and now they are coming out of their closets spewing hate for President-elect Obama. Shame on the Catholic Church.

Hargrove · 1 year ago

From the 37th president through the 43rd, all but the two Bushes, advanced abortion rights in some respect yet, only this African American president has inspired a collective priestly voice of aggressive criticism. Even when there were great wrongs perpetrated by priest, against children, there was no collective and resounding priestly expression of indignation, only this African-American president-elect has been the object of that. Perhaps the Catholic heirarchy is more comfortable blessing the activities of the slave trade, which they did, than they are praising the day that an entire nation declared, by their vote, that they can see the magnificence of God's creation, in all colors . . . http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/262376

Mike · 11 months ago

Hargrove, no other president has been as radical as Barack. He went before Planned Parenthood and said that THE FIRST THING he will do as president is pass the radical "Freedom of Choice Act," which not only overturns the twice expressed will of the American people, but prevents the states from expressing their will on the matter of partial birth abortion.

Trying to turn this into a racial issue is absurd and low class.

Veronica · 9 months ago

Many thoughts written here are truly ignorant and unjust to the Catholic faith. Removing politics from the discussion for a moment, just looking at the types of comments here are unsettling. If you are seeking for equality, justice and tolerance then give Catholics the same treatment you seek. The past several decades had some truly horrendous occurrences with the Catholic Church and the matters of pedophilia and how they handled it, yet this is but a small number of cases that were highly publicized. Saying Catholicism is all about priests molesting boys is blatantly ignorant and offensive to the 1 billion Catholics in the world. Please comment with discretion.