AMERICAblog: Cheney aide Mary Matalin published the Corsi smear book -- and Corsi is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist to boot
SociologistTina
· 1 year ago
I read Paul Waldman's book FRAUD in 2004, found his site/blog, and that's how I found Americablog!
GREAT post. Thanks, Joe. I appreciate your knowledge so much!
Bobby
· 1 year ago
Corsi is a piece of SLIME!
He has zero credibility.
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
Joe, just so you don't go off the reservation here, you need to understand that the government has in the past infiltrated sub-groups in movements against the government to discredit the "theorist".
It is not out of the realm of possibilities, it's happened before.
That said, you should not believe the words or meme from the necon/nationalist view on 911. Thats what has brought us to the present stage. You have fallen for their story. I see it everywhere in the blogs.
Read: Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil.
From there, you too will be come that "conspiracy theorist" you so dread. The evidence is right in that book, that: governments will kill for their agenda. It's been proved time and time again, throughout history.
When I talk to folks like you, I correct them that it's not a conspiracy theory, but an AGENDA.
Stop, spewing the neocon version of 911!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
Also, if you notice, I've changed my picture. America is dying a slow death. A death of a thousand knives.
The black band on the American flag indicates a stressed and dying nation.
Wait... while the "thinking" processes of neocons have always been shaky to say the least, let me see if I have this right:
1. Corsi believes that the government (run by Repukes) was involved in 9/11. ~ Okay, I really do understand why ANYONE would believe this, and actually have a hard time understanding those who refuse to at least follow through on this line of thinking, there are so many loose ends and inconsistencies after all... ~ But a neocon douchebag like Corsi believes it, and yet, he is still one of them... ??? 2. Corsi writes a book trying to destroy the chances of Obama, in order to help McCain who has been working with the same government (hell, McCain is practically having sex with Bush if you look at the votes, and the kissing and hugging...) who Corsi believes were involved in the 9/11 attacks. ~ So he was against the attacks before he was for them? ~ Or does logic just go right out the window for walking dildos like Corsi?
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
Excellent questions, PeteWa:
Let me see if I can address them. I think Corsi is a mole. I think he has setup the notion to conivce the american people that "conspiracy theorists" are the enemy.
That meme is not out of the ordinnary, just look at what recently happened from the NRA mole.
I don't think he was neccesarr'ly "against the attacks before he was for them". I think he's out to "swift boat" the "theorists".
God forbid (if you beleive in that hocus pocus), that the truth be told about the actions of the bush crime family.
I think Obama is playing into the neocon bullshit. BTW: google George Soros and Barak Obama, you will get some very interesting stories.
PeteWa
· 1 year ago
One of my favorite things about so called liberals and progressives is the fear that they have of being called a conspiracy theorist, as if there have never been conspiracies in this world... and it's not like you have to look far for a conspiracy in these past eight years (Maggie Gallagher, James Guckert, Armstrong Williams, fake news segments, fake niger document, etc.) or were those all just a really funny, knee slapping coinkidink?
Aanya
· 1 year ago
I appologize in advance for this, but I'd just like to tell Joe Lieberman and James Carville to go "F*#K Themselves! Unless someone can explain what either one of them is contributing to society, they are both using up good oxygen. Those are two men who look one way on the outside, and are rotted to the core on the inside!
jr
· 1 year ago
the wrong wing straps a Scaifeian bomb belt on these retards and sends them in front of a video camera
vwcat
· 1 year ago
Obama's campaign just put out a 41 page rebuttal to this sleaze book and said Corsi is unfit to publish. The rebuttal is on PDF
boloboffin
· 1 year ago
Thanks for this, Joe. The little YouTube video is mine. I'm glad to see this is finally getting some attention.
And the Alex Jones Show isn't the most odious place Corsi's been hanging out at. Check out the Southern Poverty Law Review's blog on him:
I have said over and over and over again that the only thing that James Carville and Mary Matalin stand for is MAKING MONEY. The fact that they appeared together time after time after time on Meet the Press with Tim Russert was a totally disgrace. One other benefit that we will get if we elect Obama is not only will the Clintons be sent to the political wilderness but all of their worthless hangers on as well.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Matalin is as ugly inside as she is outside.
ewastud
· 1 year ago
"9/11 conspiracy theories" have no relevance to any slanders or defamation put out by Corsi against Barack Obama. It is time you separate out those issues, Joe Sudbay. The perpetrators of 9/11, whoever they really were, are clearly plural -- two or more people working together -- which by definition makes the crime a conspiracy.
It is a question whether you believe our extremely and demonstrably corrupt government's sketchy conspiracy theory of what happened (despite the fact that it has been very reluctant to fully investigate the events and the fact that "9/11" has been such an extremely convenient pretext to launch wars against Iraq and Afghanistan where US/UK/Saudi oil interests coincidentally reside), or whether you believe any one of many other people who are more curious and open-minded, like Peter Dale Scott, and others who probe and ask more questions and want more answers. The fact is there are major consistencies and gaps in the "official" account resolved. If you think there are no major inconsistencies or flaws in that account, you are just ignorant and not paying attention, Joe.
ewastud
· 1 year ago
Speaking of 9/11 "conspiracy theories," once again, I happened to stumble upon this article in the Pakistan Daily, USA Military Officers Challenge Official Account of September 11:
"Twenty-five former U.S. military officers have severely criticized the official account of 9/11 and called for a new investigation. They include former commander of U.S. Army Intelligence, Major General Albert Stubblebine, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Col. Ronald D. Ray, two former staff members of the Director of the National Security Agency; Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, and Major John M. Newman, PhD, and many others. They are among the rapidly growing number of military and intelligence service veterans, scientists, engineers, and architects challenging the government’s story"
The notion that only lunatics reject the official government account of 9/11 should be dispelled by this website and the Obama campaign. Another good website that is collecting comprehensive news accounts and reliable information about 9/11 and other subjects of US foreign policy/activities (but without pushing any particular theory or speculation) is:
Wow, exactly 25 former U.S. Military officers have severely criticized the official account of 9/11. And you just "happened" to stumble onto that article from the Pakistan Daily? Will wonders never cease?
One of those is Albert Stubblebine, the officer who ran the Remote Viewing experiment for the Pentagon. That hoped to psychically spy on the Soviets and learn what they were doing before they even knew it. FAIL. Stubblebine also walked into a wall literally because he thought he could convince his atoms to pass through the atoms of the wall. FAIL.
And Stubblebine is your lede. Please take your 9/11 CT trash elsewhere.
ewastud
· 1 year ago
By the tone and language of "Boloboffin," I get the distinct impression that we actually hearing from the anti-Obama ranting nutjob and blogger, Joe Cannon.
Many credible and reputable people are cited in the Pakistan Daily article, such as Scott Ritter, Robert Bowman, Ann Wright, Karen Kwiatkowski, and John M. Newman (author of Oswald and the CIA). Bowman ran unsuccessfully for a U.S. House seat in 2006. I don't know the background of some of them but it certainly does not negate the fact that the official government conspiracy story of 9/11 is not credible and a real investigation is needed, not one by a supposedly "blue ribbon" committee of government insiders, many with conflicts of interest.
boloboffin
· 1 year ago
Count that as another one of your "distinct impression" that is 100% wrong. This is not Joe Cannon. And I am decidedly not anti-Obama. Did you notice the avatar at all? I voted for and caucused for Obama here in Texas. My sole donations this season are to Obama. You couldn't be more wrong.
I'll bet you could find 25 former military officers that think we didn't go to the Moon. I'll bet you could find 25 former military officers that think we've still got POWs in Vietnam (you might be able to find 2500 of those). It doesn't matter. You're ankle-deep in an authority fallacy and you dove in. You could get the entire U.S. military past and present, you could resurrect George Washington, and get them all to sign off on the WTC buildings being demolished intentionally, and it wouldn't matter. The facts remain the facts.
Seismographs sensitive enough to register the collapses of the buildings would have distinct signatures of explosives being used to cut the columns of those buildings. Experts in demolition have examined the seismographic records, and NONE OF THEM have the demolition signatures. That is POSITIVE evidence that no controlled demolition of these buildings occurred.
BONK. Is that a) the sound of Stubblebine hitting the wall, or b) you hitting the facts, or c) BOTH?
ewastud
· 1 year ago
Calm yourself down, "Bolobofill."
Since posts are made on this website by use of monikers, one cannot know for sure the true identity of anyone posting here. I noticed your avatar, but that could have been chosen to conceal your identity as far as I know. I am still not necessarily persuaded by your denial. Joe Cannon may not be the only one who displays such a maniacal hostility toward anyone speculating about the demise of the WTC 1 and 2 and Pentagon crash, and the questioning of the 9/11 Commission Report, but your method of attack and character assassination seems very much like his.
If you read my posts carefully, I have never stated that I personally believe any particular alternative theory, just that the official story is totally inadequate. The 25 various persons cited in the Pakistan Daily story have different views among themselves about what happened; they all agree on just one thing, as do I: that the official story is woefully lacking and full of major inconsistencies and gaps requiring explanation and further investigation. That is all!
boloboffin
· 1 year ago
A moment's Googling will provide you with my actual identity, uwasted.
Is it character assassination to point out Stubblebine's one-way ticket to a headache? If so, it sounds like one he would be in control of.
I see that you neatly avoided dealing with the positive evidence that no charges were used in any of those buildings. Those wishing to verify this (and many other facts about the collapses of those buildings) can find Brent Blanchard's PDF on the subject here:
Yes, I understand that you're Just Asking Questions. It's a standard technique of 9/11 conspiracy theorists to refuse to commit to any actual alternative, even though the questions they ask and the answers they accept lead logically to actual alternatives. It's the logic of the Intelligent Design advocates who say they aren't pushing any particular deity on children. They're Just Asking Questions about evolution. Well, disagreement among scientists about the mechanics of evolution doesn't mean creationism is a valid proposition. The buildings fell down because of the damage and the fires. 19 members of Al Qaeda hijacked those planes and crashed them where they crashed. These are facts. The sooner you realize this and start dealing with actual problems, the sooner you will be working towards defeating the things you see wrong about the world and not contributing to them.
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GREAT post. Thanks, Joe. I appreciate your knowledge so much!
He has zero credibility.
It is not out of the realm of possibilities, it's happened before.
That said, you should not believe the words or meme from the necon/nationalist view on 911. Thats what has brought us to the present stage. You have fallen for their story. I see it everywhere in the blogs.
Read: Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil.
From there, you too will be come that "conspiracy theorist" you so dread. The evidence is right in that book, that: governments will kill for their agenda. It's been proved time and time again, throughout history.
When I talk to folks like you, I correct them that it's not a conspiracy theory, but an AGENDA.
Stop, spewing the neocon version of 911!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The black band on the American flag indicates a stressed and dying nation.
Don't believe me?
End of the Line for Financial System; Bankruptcy Issue Raised
1. Corsi believes that the government (run by Repukes) was involved in 9/11.
~ Okay, I really do understand why ANYONE would believe this, and actually have a hard time understanding those who refuse to at least follow through on this line of thinking, there are so many loose ends and inconsistencies after all...
~ But a neocon douchebag like Corsi believes it, and yet, he is still one of them... ???
2. Corsi writes a book trying to destroy the chances of Obama, in order to help McCain who has been working with the same government (hell, McCain is practically having sex with Bush if you look at the votes, and the kissing and hugging...) who Corsi believes were involved in the 9/11 attacks.
~ So he was against the attacks before he was for them?
~ Or does logic just go right out the window for walking dildos like Corsi?
Let me see if I can address them. I think Corsi is a mole. I think he has setup the notion to conivce the american people that "conspiracy theorists" are the enemy.
That meme is not out of the ordinnary, just look at what recently happened from the NRA mole.
I don't think he was neccesarr'ly "against the attacks before he was for them". I think he's out to "swift boat" the "theorists".
God forbid (if you beleive in that hocus pocus), that the truth be told about the actions of the bush crime family.
I think Obama is playing into the neocon bullshit. BTW: google George Soros and Barak Obama, you will get some very interesting stories.
and it's not like you have to look far for a conspiracy in these past eight years (Maggie Gallagher, James Guckert, Armstrong Williams, fake news segments, fake niger document, etc.) or were those all just a really funny, knee slapping coinkidink?
And the Alex Jones Show isn't the most odious place Corsi's been hanging out at. Check out the Southern Poverty Law Review's blog on him:
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/08/13/bestse...
It is a question whether you believe our extremely and demonstrably corrupt government's sketchy conspiracy theory of what happened (despite the fact that it has been very reluctant to fully investigate the events and the fact that "9/11" has been such an extremely convenient pretext to launch wars against Iraq and Afghanistan where US/UK/Saudi oil interests coincidentally reside), or whether you believe any one of many other people who are more curious and open-minded, like Peter Dale Scott, and others who probe and ask more questions and want more answers. The fact is there are major consistencies and gaps in the "official" account resolved. If you think there are no major inconsistencies or flaws in that account, you are just ignorant and not paying attention, Joe.
http://www.daily.pk/world/americas/99-americas/...
"Twenty-five former U.S. military officers have severely criticized the official account of 9/11 and called for a new investigation. They include former commander of U.S. Army Intelligence, Major General Albert Stubblebine, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Col. Ronald D. Ray, two former staff members of the Director of the National Security Agency; Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, and Major John M. Newman, PhD, and many others. They are among the rapidly growing number of military and intelligence service veterans, scientists, engineers, and architects challenging the government’s story"
The notion that only lunatics reject the official government account of 9/11 should be dispelled by this website and the Obama campaign. Another good website that is collecting comprehensive news accounts and reliable information about 9/11 and other subjects of US foreign policy/activities (but without pushing any particular theory or speculation) is:
http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?proje...
One of those is Albert Stubblebine, the officer who ran the Remote Viewing experiment for the Pentagon. That hoped to psychically spy on the Soviets and learn what they were doing before they even knew it. FAIL. Stubblebine also walked into a wall literally because he thought he could convince his atoms to pass through the atoms of the wall. FAIL.
And Stubblebine is your lede. Please take your 9/11 CT trash elsewhere.
Many credible and reputable people are cited in the Pakistan Daily article, such as Scott Ritter, Robert Bowman, Ann Wright, Karen Kwiatkowski, and John M. Newman (author of Oswald and the CIA). Bowman ran unsuccessfully for a U.S. House seat in 2006. I don't know the background of some of them but it certainly does not negate the fact that the official government conspiracy story of 9/11 is not credible and a real investigation is needed, not one by a supposedly "blue ribbon" committee of government insiders, many with conflicts of interest.
I'll bet you could find 25 former military officers that think we didn't go to the Moon. I'll bet you could find 25 former military officers that think we've still got POWs in Vietnam (you might be able to find 2500 of those). It doesn't matter. You're ankle-deep in an authority fallacy and you dove in. You could get the entire U.S. military past and present, you could resurrect George Washington, and get them all to sign off on the WTC buildings being demolished intentionally, and it wouldn't matter. The facts remain the facts.
Seismographs sensitive enough to register the collapses of the buildings would have distinct signatures of explosives being used to cut the columns of those buildings. Experts in demolition have examined the seismographic records, and NONE OF THEM have the demolition signatures. That is POSITIVE evidence that no controlled demolition of these buildings occurred.
BONK. Is that a) the sound of Stubblebine hitting the wall, or b) you hitting the facts, or c) BOTH?
Since posts are made on this website by use of monikers, one cannot know for sure the true identity of anyone posting here. I noticed your avatar, but that could have been chosen to conceal your identity as far as I know. I am still not necessarily persuaded by your denial. Joe Cannon may not be the only one who displays such a maniacal hostility toward anyone speculating about the demise of the WTC 1 and 2 and Pentagon crash, and the questioning of the 9/11 Commission Report, but your method of attack and character assassination seems very much like his.
If you read my posts carefully, I have never stated that I personally believe any particular alternative theory, just that the official story is totally inadequate. The 25 various persons cited in the Pakistan Daily story have different views among themselves about what happened; they all agree on just one thing, as do I: that the official story is woefully lacking and full of major inconsistencies and gaps requiring explanation and further investigation. That is all!
Is it character assassination to point out Stubblebine's one-way ticket to a headache? If so, it sounds like one he would be in control of.
I see that you neatly avoided dealing with the positive evidence that no charges were used in any of those buildings. Those wishing to verify this (and many other facts about the collapses of those buildings) can find Brent Blanchard's PDF on the subject here:
http://ae911truth.info/pdf/blanchard_implosion.pdf
Also, quite a few scholarly papers not connected to the government have been published about the collapses:
http://ae911truth.info/tiki-index.php?page=Scho...
Yes, I understand that you're Just Asking Questions. It's a standard technique of 9/11 conspiracy theorists to refuse to commit to any actual alternative, even though the questions they ask and the answers they accept lead logically to actual alternatives. It's the logic of the Intelligent Design advocates who say they aren't pushing any particular deity on children. They're Just Asking Questions about evolution. Well, disagreement among scientists about the mechanics of evolution doesn't mean creationism is a valid proposition. The buildings fell down because of the damage and the fires. 19 members of Al Qaeda hijacked those planes and crashed them where they crashed. These are facts. The sooner you realize this and start dealing with actual problems, the sooner you will be working towards defeating the things you see wrong about the world and not contributing to them.