Is this little nugget from the AP supposed to distract us from Lieberman, it feels like one of Homeland Security's color coded terror alerts, put out by Democrats.
bill__free
· 1 year ago
Cheney and Gonzo gets indited and it doesn't his MsNBC or CNN??
jurassicpork
· 1 year ago
The post-election Republicans are like the new vampires of True Blood: Promising a new way of doing business, of abandoning their ancient evil because they’ve eschewed Koolaid for Troo-laid! But do not trust them. They want to do bad things to you.
lucky hussein
· 1 year ago
hey! you're back! AWESOME...
jurassicpork
· 1 year ago
I've been back since last summer, dude.
lucky hussein
· 1 year ago
oh sorry. you should have put a forwarding thing on the old site.
lemonyellow
· 1 year ago
Nothing to see here, folks. Please move on...
Perception Managers
· 1 year ago
Like they couldn't of waited a few weeks until Coke-head Chimpy is gone?
gallery
· 1 year ago
After reading your earier post about how we mean nothing to the politicos, this news, which I would normally get very excited about, has given me flashbacks to all the other causes that I got outraged over, and then ultimately disappointed at. I wrote to Leahy about FISA, I signed all of the petitions on that and other legislation pending, called my congressman repeatedly...... I really thought we were making a difference. It is so disheartening to support a cause that OUR party then throws into the shitter every single time. I really hope that Obama cuts through all this shit and starts reminding everyone who is in charge when he gets into office.
ezpz
· 1 year ago
Are these indictments prerequisites to pardons?
After all, how can Bush pardon someone who hasn't been charged, indicted, or convicted of anything?
No?
KKT
· 1 year ago
Nixon was pardoned before being charged, indicted or convicted. Still, this won't be a Bush pardon because it was a state indictment:
http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/brownsvil... A Willacy County grand jury under District Attorney Juan Angel Guerra returned multi-count indictments Monday against Vice President Dick Cheney, former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, plus several other public officials
ezpz
· 1 year ago
Thank you for the answer. I really didn't know if you could give immunity and call it a pardon.
E T A - It would be the Bush Doctrine of preemptiveness.
BorninUSA
· 1 year ago
Watching the pundits trying to analyze the keeping of Lieberman. The Democrats are the laughing stock of everyone. What change!!! Lieberman says some of the things he is accused of saying he did not say! It's on video for God's sake!! What is the matter with these Senators? And when I listen to Harry Reid I just want to throw up. This man is the weakest chain in the link. They say the Democrats are afraid of not having 60 votes in the Senate. What makes them believe traitorous Lieberman will vote with them? What happens the first time he turns on them? I have had enough.
lynchie
· 1 year ago
Harry Reid reminds me of Don Knotts from Mayberry or maybe he is Floyd the Barber. Scares the beejeezus out of himself everytime he looks in a mirror.
LawMichigander
· 1 year ago
Um is this in Federal or State Court? The President can only pardon for federal crimes, not state crimes.
LawMichigander
· 1 year ago
Don't mess with Texas Cheney!!!
KKT
· 1 year ago
State. But Rick Perry could (and probably will) pardon him.
RitornaVincitor
· 1 year ago
Good. Let this be just the beginning. When the door to the VP mansion closes behind him, let it be a slam.
MaudGonne
· 1 year ago
Is this an assault independent of the one where he nearly killed his drinking hunting buddy???
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Yes, it has to due with prisoner abuse--what an irony, huh?--in some facility in which Cheney and Gonzo have interests.
justadood
· 1 year ago
Cheney's *going* to trot out the Nixonian argument....you can bet your spouse on it. "If the [Executive] does it, it must be legal". He honestly doesn't feel he's answerable to anybody for his actions as VP.
I'd LOVE to be there with a camera when somebody clicks on the cuffs...whenever that time comes...
lucky hussein
· 1 year ago
who cares? we want to make peace... peace... we don't care about yesterday, like our courageous leader reid said. we just want to go forward. we don't care about bugliosi.. we don't care about torture... we just want everything to be nice... nice... just like our great neo-liberal leader bill clinton. he understands. he didn't make this mistake, did he? http://consortiumnews.com/2008/111708.html
woodroad34
· 1 year ago
So, why does it take a state official to get criminals -- how bogged down is the Federal Congress that they can't get these two indicted and impeached? Well, I they got Al Capone on Tax Evasion rather than murder...that's something, I suppose.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
i'm sure Cheney and his henchmen will make short work of this indictment, but way to go South Texas...you got one right!
bill__free
· 1 year ago
I find it highly suspicious that both Cheney and Gonzo got indicted. Sounds like a easy way to pardon 2 birds with one stone. MSM keeps this in headlines like it is a big deal and then a blanket pardon comes from Bush to protect them from this case, as well as any other crime.
fl79tr
· 1 year ago
is that possible?
bill__free
· 1 year ago
I have no idea. It just sound funny. Indicted in Southern Texas and that's where they are from. And since they appointed all the attorney generals, it sounds like they would be privy to this.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
This can be processed and swept away before Bush leaves office. Then there will be no consequences and nothing for an Obama team to go after.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
This doesn't sound like a very serious lawsuit, does it?
I mean, Vanguard has millions of investors.
I don't see how this can stick.
Aman-About-Town.com
· 1 year ago
Nice!
MaudGonne
· 1 year ago
They've tried noisy protests, consumer boycotts, and the odd act of minor terrorism. Now supporters of gay marriage have unveiled a new weapon in their war against the Mormon Church: satire. The creators of the cartoon South Park, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, are planning to stage a Broadway musical based on the lives and (many) loves of typical members of the Church of the Latter Day Saints. It will be co-written by the composer Robert Lopez, who wrote Avenue Q, the award-winning musical which sends-up another all-American institution, Sesame Street. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/america...
green_libertarian
· 1 year ago
circus. and meaningless.
wmforr
· 1 year ago
The very fact that there are "Private Prison Companies" is a blot on our nation. We outsource the post office, we contract mercenaries to wage our wars. What part of the definition of Fascist don't people understand?
Remember "Robocop" and the police department subcontracted to a private company? Remember "Aliens" and the Company that seems to run everything? How far toward those dystopias have we come before (hopefully) putting the brakes on.
Now if only they can indict him on some STATE laws, where Presidential pardons don't apply.
btw, when was the last time a sitting VP was indicted? Agnew?
(For those of you too young to remember, Spiro Agnew was widely known as "Nixon's Insurance Policy" [Nixon reportedly said, “No assassin in his right mind would kill me.".]
(The moment he left office under a cloud and a nolo contendere plea to federal charges of accepting bribes, he became a lobbyist for various Arab interests. He is best remembered for his penchant for excessive initial alliteration and the fact that his name is an anagram for "Grow a penis.")
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I wrote to Leahy about FISA, I signed all of the petitions on that and other legislation pending, called my congressman repeatedly...... I really thought we were making a difference.
It is so disheartening to support a cause that OUR party then throws into the shitter every single time.
I really hope that Obama cuts through all this shit and starts reminding everyone who is in charge when he gets into office.
After all, how can Bush pardon someone who hasn't been charged, indicted, or convicted of anything?
No?
http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/brownsvil...
A Willacy County grand jury under District Attorney Juan Angel Guerra returned multi-count indictments Monday against Vice President Dick Cheney, former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, plus several other public officials
I really didn't know if you could give immunity and call it a pardon.
E T A - It would be the Bush Doctrine of preemptiveness.
I'd LOVE to be there with a camera when somebody clicks on the cuffs...whenever that time comes...
just like our great neo-liberal leader bill clinton. he understands. he didn't make this mistake, did he?
http://consortiumnews.com/2008/111708.html
I mean, Vanguard has millions of investors.
I don't see how this can stick.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/america...
Remember "Robocop" and the police department subcontracted to a private company? Remember "Aliens" and the Company that seems to run everything? How far toward those dystopias have we come before (hopefully) putting the brakes on.
Now if only they can indict him on some STATE laws, where Presidential pardons don't apply.
btw, when was the last time a sitting VP was indicted? Agnew?
(For those of you too young to remember, Spiro Agnew was widely known as "Nixon's Insurance Policy" [Nixon reportedly said, “No assassin in his right mind would kill me.".]
(The moment he left office under a cloud and a nolo contendere plea to federal charges of accepting bribes, he became a lobbyist for various Arab interests. He is best remembered for his penchant for excessive initial alliteration and the fact that his name is an anagram for "Grow a penis.")