AMERICAblog: "Clinton official" tells Wash. Post: "We lost this thing in February." Okay, then wrap it up.
jr
· 1 year ago
"there's nothing I won't do to help you win so I can run in 2012"-Hillary to McCombover
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Aside from Hill and old,crazy Bill the corporate media continues to lose bigtime...
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Okay, according to the staffer this was lost in February, yet it was after February that Clinton began her scorched earth policy. One of the things being pimped by Tim Russert is that Obama needs Hillary and in order to get Hillary he will have to make some concessions, as in paying off her campaign debt. Why? As a giver to Obama this infuriates me because for months Clinton KNEW she couldn't win, trashed Obama and is still out there in West Virginia.
Why should one dime that I gave to Obama be used to pay off her mismanaged and extended campaign debt?
grandma
· 1 year ago
aquarius2
I agree....I have given to the Obama campaign too and I sure don't want it going to pay off Hillary's debts.
tofubo
· 1 year ago
talking w/my wife last night while we were watching hillary's speech, she commented on her speaking style
talking about jfk, rfk, mlk, i just said i don't believe her, she said the same about the clenis, i interjected, but he made you want to be lied to, she spoke of ann richards, how she loved her style (hated her politics, but loved her style), and came up with the greatest phase 'bout mrs clinton:
bitterly unctous
tofubo
· 1 year ago
OT, give my love to atrios, my work just blocked his site
yesterday it was working, today, the filter got it
ericgoldman
· 1 year ago
I find it hard to believe that you still don't understand what's happening here.
Hilary Clinton is running her campaign the same way she has faced every major challenge in her life. She is fighting twice as hard as any man would have to, and she is ignoring everyone who is telling her that, for the good of the (1) family or (2) company or (3) party or (4) country, get back in your place and for G-d's sake stop your yapping, woman.
She will stay in this race until she amasses enough power to dictate the terms of her exit. If that means that she has to consolidate her hold over a crucial voting bloc, that's what she will do. Come June, she is going to say that Obama cannot win without the support of Clinton voters, which means Obama and the party needs her, and so Obama and the party have to make it work for her.
And every time she gets called a bitch, or shrill, or selfish, or crazy, or irrational, or desperate,or out of touch with reality, or any other of the numerous names or insults people have used to try to keep ambitious women in their place, it pushes back the time that her graceful exit can be negotiated. And every time someone pulls some "gotcha" quote from years ago or brings up the specter of her philandering husband, it stiffens the resolve of her supporters and gives her more bargaining power.
And I have to tell you, every time I see these sexist attacks it makes me sick that this is the world in which I am raising my daughter, that even self-described liberals can be so blind to sexist attitudes and actions. That after all this time, this is still how we treat ambitious women.
So, if you want to begin the end of this nomination process, start with respect. Because after June we are all going to have to pull together if we are going to stop McCain, and that's not going to happen if we can even conduct a civil discussion among ourselves. And since McCain has just promised to nominate only conservative judges, which means the judiciary will continue to move to the right, which as far as I am concerned is of crucial importance to the LGBT community, we have to get past this.
So maybe we can stop telling Hilary to shut up and maybe we can just shut up ourselves, eat some crow, swallow our pride, cut a mutually acceptable deal and move on to the general election.
vegasbaby
· 1 year ago
this is interesting...from the Live Indiana Election Blog:
RSSBlogs: Indiana Primary Elections Lake County with 99 percent reporting May 6th, 2008 553 precincts out of 561 reporting, but still missing approximately 7,000 early/absentee votes Democratic candidates President of the United States Barack Obama 66,265 Hillary Clinton 53,310 Governor Jim Schellinger 46,313 Jill Long Thompson 55,052
Isn't stupidity doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
Clinton isn't that smart, after all.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
as a 50 year old, white female, i was all for Hillary at first. i really believed she had the brains, the experience and the best position on the issues to be a great president...
she, herself, has shown me otherwise. and even though all the sexism has been hard to take, it doesn't erase the fact that Obama is the best candidate.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
.... Yea, now watch the chickenshits SuperDems who hop on the bandwagon the next few days.
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KerrynowCampau
· 1 year ago
"and he can't get elected."
Bullshit
kabiddle
· 1 year ago
Damn right "bullshit". Once all this "distraction" goes away and McCain starts feeling the pressure and imploding, Obama's going to wipe the floor with him. Think I'm dreamin? Maybe so, but then why did some of the MSM look so, I don't know, worried this morning? Andrea Mitchell on Morning Joe looked positively shaken. The coverage of Obama this morning (the little bit I was able to watch) was right in the gutter-- they ARE worried. Good.
KerrynowCampau
· 1 year ago
"-- they ARE worried. Good."
They damned well should be kabiddle. When my Rush Limpball listening father wants Obama over McCain you know there is trouble in wingnut land.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
Ericgoldman wrote: " So maybe we can stop telling Hilary to shut up and maybe we can just shut up ourselves, eat some crow, swallow our pride, cut a mutually acceptable deal and move on to the general election."
Didn't you mean to tell Hillary to shut up?
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ericgoldman
· 1 year ago
HereinDC
Are you serious?
bumpkis
· 1 year ago
Isn't stupidity doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
No...I believe that describes INSANITY.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
bumpkis, ok, that works, too.
Believe it or not, I was napping on the couch, tuned to MSNBC, and was awakened by the desperate voice of Wolfson...it made me jump a mile.
So, continued racist appeals to the undereducated and burned out boomers is the continued strategy, it seems. Anyone with half a brain would realize that any contributions to the Clinton campaign is just throwing good money after bad. How much of that $10 million "raised" after PA was $6.4 of her own money? Gimme a break.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
I have 22 positives and you have 199 negatives...
Odds are you're wrong... Now go send Hillary another 100 bucks .
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Vegas, and if those 7,000 votes are for Obama, that cuts the Clinton "victory" to onlyt 15,000 votes. She's failing faster than she thinks.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
How about this? Clinton continuing to lose is the same as the US being in Iraq...is she just copycatting Bush and becoming a domestic imperialist, determined to circumvent the will of ordinary people who are resisting her fight?
Bubbles
· 1 year ago
My guess is that they all fought on, because they all believed, long ago, that she was the inevitable winner, and they the inevitable political appointees. So they've been spending the money before they ever got the first check. Then when things broke for Obama they woke up a little too late. Since they already spent the money, they felt like they had to do everything they can to get a chance to receive the check.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
She's "in" mainly to get her $11.5 mil back...
Blueflash
· 1 year ago
Clinton hasn't lost touch with reality. She's being tough by not dropping out or at least that's how the Budweiser crowd who once hated her sees it. And it's working. She's winning their admiration. Now if only Obama loses to Mccain, she (and Bill, of course) can come roaring back for 2012 without the high negatives she previously had with so-called Reagan Democrats. Why leave when the stage is still yours and it offers you the chance to prove once and for all that you're tough as nails and capable of being commander-in-chief?
PeteWa
· 1 year ago
"We lost this thing in February, but decided to stick around to fuck everything up" ~ The Clinton Campaign
JMOHR
· 1 year ago
I agree that Clinton should have stayed in the race through last night. However, her attacks on Obama have handed McCain a lot of ammunition and tarnished who I would now see as the presumptive nominee,. There should have been away for Clinton to establish street creds without going so low. E.g.: going after McCain with intensity, less race baiting, less obvious pandering.
I initially went along with Clinton. My views started to change after February and his initial breakout. Clinton had been the presumptive nominee and just did not seem to go for it until behind.
I hope that Clinton is not using this as a means to set up a run in 2012. Unfortunately, the country just can not take another four years of Republican misrule. Indeed, a loss this year would cause extremely serious damage to the party as in "if the Dems can not win in 2008, they no longer deserve to be a party."
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Why should one dime that I gave to Obama be used to pay off her mismanaged and extended campaign debt?
I agree....I have given to the Obama campaign too and I sure don't want it going to pay off Hillary's debts.
talking about jfk, rfk, mlk, i just said i don't believe her, she said the same about the clenis, i interjected, but he made you want to be lied to, she spoke of ann richards, how she loved her style (hated her politics, but loved her style), and came up with the greatest phase 'bout mrs clinton:
bitterly unctous
yesterday it was working, today, the filter got it
Hilary Clinton is running her campaign the same way she has faced every major challenge in her life. She is fighting twice as hard as any man would have to, and she is ignoring everyone who is telling her that, for the good of the (1) family or (2) company or (3) party or (4) country, get back in your place and for G-d's sake stop your yapping, woman.
She will stay in this race until she amasses enough power to dictate the terms of her exit. If that means that she has to consolidate her hold over a crucial voting bloc, that's what she will do. Come June, she is going to say that Obama cannot win without the support of Clinton voters, which means Obama and the party needs her, and so Obama and the party have to make it work for her.
And every time she gets called a bitch, or shrill, or selfish, or crazy, or irrational, or desperate,or out of touch with reality, or any other of the numerous names or insults people have used to try to keep ambitious women in their place, it pushes back the time that her graceful exit can be negotiated. And every time someone pulls some "gotcha" quote from years ago or brings up the specter of her philandering husband, it stiffens the resolve of her supporters and gives her more bargaining power.
And I have to tell you, every time I see these sexist attacks it makes me sick that this is the world in which I am raising my daughter, that even self-described liberals can be so blind to sexist attitudes and actions. That after all this time, this is still how we treat ambitious women.
So, if you want to begin the end of this nomination process, start with respect. Because after June we are all going to have to pull together if we are going to stop McCain, and that's not going to happen if we can even conduct a civil discussion among ourselves. And since McCain has just promised to nominate only conservative judges, which means the judiciary will continue to move to the right, which as far as I am concerned is of crucial importance to the LGBT community, we have to get past this.
So maybe we can stop telling Hilary to shut up and maybe we can just shut up ourselves, eat some crow, swallow our pride, cut a mutually acceptable deal and move on to the general election.
RSSBlogs: Indiana Primary Elections
Lake County with 99 percent reporting
May 6th, 2008
553 precincts out of 561 reporting, but still missing approximately 7,000 early/absentee votes
Democratic candidates
President of the
United States
Barack Obama 66,265
Hillary Clinton 53,310
Governor
Jim Schellinger 46,313
Jill Long Thompson 55,052
http://www.nwi.com/blogs/election/
Clinton isn't that smart, after all.
i really believed she had the brains, the experience and the best position on the issues to be a great president...
she, herself, has shown me otherwise.
and even though all the sexism has been hard to take, it doesn't erase the fact that Obama is the best candidate.
Yea, now watch the chickenshits SuperDems who hop on the bandwagon the next few days.
.
Bullshit
They damned well should be kabiddle. When my Rush Limpball listening father wants Obama over McCain you know there is trouble in wingnut land.
So maybe we can stop telling Hilary to shut up and maybe we can just shut up ourselves, eat some crow, swallow our pride, cut a mutually acceptable deal and move on to the general election."
Didn't you mean to tell Hillary to shut up?
.
.
Are you serious?
No...I believe that describes INSANITY.
Believe it or not, I was napping on the couch, tuned to MSNBC, and was awakened by the desperate voice of Wolfson...it made me jump a mile.
So, continued racist appeals to the undereducated and burned out boomers is the continued strategy, it seems. Anyone with half a brain would realize that any contributions to the Clinton campaign is just throwing good money after bad. How much of that $10 million "raised" after PA was $6.4 of her own money? Gimme a break.
Odds are you're wrong...
Now go send Hillary another 100 bucks
.
~ The Clinton Campaign
I initially went along with Clinton. My views started to change after February and his initial breakout. Clinton had been the presumptive nominee and just did not seem to go for it until behind.
I hope that Clinton is not using this as a means to set up a run in 2012. Unfortunately, the country just can not take another four years of Republican misrule. Indeed, a loss this year would cause extremely serious damage to the party as in "if the Dems can not win in 2008, they no longer deserve to be a party."