AMERICAblog: Clinton tries desperately -- and I mean desperately -- to change the subject from her lies about the Bosnia trip
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
One begins to have impressions of personality pathology, at this point.
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
What does Monica know?
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
Well Monica apparently knew enough to keep "the dress" in her closet without bothering to send it out for cleaning which has always suggested to me to perhaps "poor innocent intern" Monica may have been a republicon plant. But then, with all the other whoring around that Bill did, why would they have bothered?
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Hillary Dear,
STFU and Drop Out.
Thanks.
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading. - Lao Tzu
jr
· 1 year ago
"he's black"-Hillary
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
She really needs to tell us exactly where she was when she was targeted under enemy fire. I'm sure it happened somewhere. It had to. Who wouldn't remember being shot at?
grandma
· 1 year ago
She wouldn't be MY President.
We can't pick our family but we can pick our President....good bye traitor Hillary.
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
Grandma, as always, you have it right. Maybe you can tell us, has Hillary just blown a gasket, a giant series of "brain-farts," like kindly old Uncle John? Is she working hard to give women a bad name like Uncle John is doing for senior citizens??? Or is this racist-liar just scared stiff about whats going to happen when those tax returns are released? Perhaps it will justify the $14mil suite for fraud against her and philandering Bill? And whose gonna vote for such a fool that sat by while Bill played with all those women? Could it be that he was her ticket to power? Pretty shabby reason, almost republicon sounding... oh but thats right Hil is a DINO as well as a monster bitch!
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Hillary ever say why she never read the NIE?
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Somebody needs to ask Hillary if she plans to declassify most of Bush's secretive decisions...and signing statements.
Then Bush will declassify everything Bill ever did...tomorrow.
grandma
· 1 year ago
two words for traitor Hillary:
tax returns
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Obama released his like a man, didn't he? You'd think Hillary would do it as a Democrat.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
She's scared. Halliburton had another good year.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Clinton must think we're all stupid and have short memories.
A guy on Tweety's show commented that if it was that dangerous (too dangerous for even Bubba to go), why would he have sent his wife and only child to a battle-torn area?
She also said something in PA today (dissing Obama, of course) that made me furious...so furious that I wouldn't vote for that political whore if I just don't vote at all in Nov.
KerrynowCampau
· 1 year ago
Why would someone under the microscope say something that appears to be totally untrue? Did she honestly think that no one would check something like that out? Who does she think she is? Cheney?
I agree it must have happened somewhere to someone. Was it part of an episode of 24?
grandma
· 1 year ago
She said she's human (coulda fooled me)....she says she misspoke....she says she was sleep deprived.....
Who knows what she says tomorrow....
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
And...............now where are her Tax Returns....
I actually have a signed photo from them in my living room....
It's time to take it down and put it in the closet....
And to think I actually gave money to their legal fund back in the late 90's....yea...I was one of the people who actually gave to them cause I felt sorry for them....
Hard to believe in just 10 years I've become so disgusted with them.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
So, Hillary is having a "Senior Moment" that is lasting some 16 years?
If you were targeted by a sniper, wouldn't you have nightmares? Must seem so real to her.
I hope they find her a nice nursing home.
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
Hillary LIED about the dramatic details on the Bosnia trip. Yes, its more exciting, but IT DIDN"T HAPPEN like that. Hillary lied. Hillary is now being a FAT RACIST PIG again attacking Obama and Pastor Wright. I wish I could get this message to every voter in Pennsylvania. Hillary is a Liar and a Racist. She should eat shit and die!!!!
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Oh, I remember...Clinton said she was releasing her tax forms "in a few days" but wants Obama to release everything he ever said in the Illinois legislature.
You think this awful woman wouldn't bomb Iran? Think again. She's on a quest to prove she has more balls than any man out there. Like killing people makes you a man...cheeeezus, my bile is rising.
Rab
· 1 year ago
Sorry Hillary, the news cycle moves on and you were caught lying.
johnosahon
· 1 year ago
i am tired of this woman, i am tired of abusing her, can she PLEASE leave us alone. she is like a rat that would not die. i am pleading now.
HILARY,PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. PACK YOUR BAGS AND GO BACK TO NEW YORK.
lauren1959
· 1 year ago
Maybe she has more in common with George Bush and John McCain than we thought. Maybe she can help them find the weapons of mass destruction. It appears that she has Pat Buchanan squarely in her corner now. Her supporters should analyze why...
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
Good point Lauren1959, I think there are lots of MSNBC views who wonder why they keep dragging Pat Buchanan out over and over again. Does he have some secret hold over them, or is it just to see where hes flip-flopped to this week. Does anyone breathing really care what Pat Buchanan thinks at any given moment.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
I hate all things Clinton! I believe I've said that already today but I just want to say it again. No republican could do more damage to the democratic party than she is doing. NY ought to recall her and boot her out of the senate.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
I can't believe that the editorial board of the NYT still endorses her. And they base their endorsement on her so-called "experience". Surely in light of the lies or fantasy of Tuzla they would start to question her experience. She has lied about the major reason why she thinks everyone should vote for her.
grandma
· 1 year ago
So apparently Hillary Clinton was "sleep-deprived" when she forgot that she'd never dodged sniper fire while running from a plane in Tuzla...............maybe we have an explanation of her war vote -- maybe she was sleep-deprived when she authorized the war? Maybe she's been staying up all night studying the classified National Intelligence Estimate trying to get to the bottom of things? Well, okay, she wasn't doing that, but maybe it was something. Presumably her plan is to be well-rested during her freaky 3AM phone calls.
and THEN tell me she don't have Bat-sh!t Wingnuts in her closet , , ,
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
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So apparently Hillary Clinton was "sleep-deprived" when she forgot that she'd never dodged sniper fire while running from a plane in Tuzla... ----
Actually, she must be sleep deprived an awful lot lately... because she used her 'misspoken' description of landing in Bosnia on FOUR SEPARATE OCCASIONS.
to use a bushism... 'that's a lotta misspokening!'
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KerrynowCampau
· 1 year ago
What does her daughter remember of the incident?
grandma
· 1 year ago
"Well sir, I think that my mother’s on record as having talked about this and I support what she said. I mean, I was there as well and I’m so honored that I was there."
well... at least mccain can't attack Obama's pastor.
I mean, look at the lunatic fundies that support THAT guy!
grasshopper
· 1 year ago
Older and Wiser,
I saw the segment on Tweety's show with Sestak shilling for Hillary. He defended her by playing the sexist card saying voters had no problems with Teddy Roosevelt lying about leading a charge up San Juan Hill and JFK lying about having Addison's Disease. The Hillary campaign has really hit a new low.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
No kidding...and isn't Sestak one of those DINOs his constituents are having buyer's remorse about?
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Bubba probably sent Hillary and Chelsea out of the country so he could get some more head from Monica...even though it appears she was in the WH 6 times that he did. She KNEW, I'm convinced of it. How did he threaten her, and what did he offer her?
johnosahon
· 1 year ago
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Yeah, Hillary Clinton, YOU HAD A CHOICE TO LEAVE YOUR CHEATING HUSBAND, TOO, YOU SELF-CENTERED POLITICAL ASSHOLE.
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LOL, why did she not leave her husband after he serially cheated on her ass? i know, because of her political career, she wanted to be president, that's why the bitch does not want to quit, because she wasted her time with bill.
comsympinko
· 1 year ago
If this were true (and it isn't) and she did come under sniper fire in Tuzla (which she didn't), then I really have to question the judgement of a mother who would expose her only daughter to the danger of being killed for a photo op.
What kind of sick individual would place their child in deadly danger for a publicity stunt?
Stupid or lying--we don't need four more years of this kind of bullshit.
nicho
· 1 year ago
So much depends on what the meaning of "sniper fire" is.
If Hillary is so concerned about what someone's pastor said, why does she praise the leader of a right-wing theocratic cult to which she belongs?
grasshopper
· 1 year ago
Bill is paying a heavy price for promising her the presidency after the Monica affair by not only throwing away his legacy, but all the wasted millions for his presidential library which he now has to move out of Harlem.
Question: Do you still think the Democratic race can be resolved before the convention?
Reid: Easy.
Q: How is that?
Reid: It will be done.
Q: It just will?
Reid: Yep.
Q: Magically?
Reid: No, it will be done. I had a conversation with Governor Dean (Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean) today. Things are being done.
Ann_in_KC
· 1 year ago
Andrea Mitchell just said that Clinton came out with a statement first (before Obama) concerning sub-prime loans. Not true! Obama sent a letter in March 2007 according to a post on Andrew Sullivan.
she will do anything to make sure John McCain becomes President.
and that Reid quote is scary. real scary.
grasshopper
· 1 year ago
nicho, I don't trust "Give 'em a sternly worded letter Harry"
shanobama
· 1 year ago
Well, I think Dean is a man of his word. It would be a disaster for the Democratic party as a whole to let this stalemate go on to August.
June resolution. McCain meet us in the desert, this coming June, we are having that debate. Prepare yourself. The Obama statement "McCain will follow Bin Laden to the gates of hell, but he wont follow him to where he actually is"... sic. ouch.
shanobama
· 1 year ago
Dean will gather the superdelegates to push one candidate or the other over the top. Or they will come out voluntarily. One third to go.
Sage24
· 1 year ago
I did hear Blitzer and someone at MSNBC remark that Hillary's strategic reference to Wright, and the timing were suspicious, knowing she is in hot water, when it comes to the Bosnia lie.
During Hardball a journalist remarked that Hillary claiming that she was sent to places that were too poor or dangerous instead of the President was questionable. What kind of a President/father and mother, would send Chelsea on this so called dangerous journey? Are they bad parents or is Hillary a brazen liar. I think the latter.
So what exactly did Hillary "I am owed the nomination" Clinton, do in Bosnia? Did she negotiate peace or policies? I see her strolling casually among the welcoming committee, receiving flowers and kisses, posing for photo ops, smiling and making nice. Does this count as experience? Who believes this BS anymore? Would she be grinning like an idiot, if there was ANY danger of sniper fire? Why is she insulting our intelligence?
It is time Hillary stepped out of this race. She has done everything possible to beat Obama, and has gone down to gutter politics to win. It is pathetic to see the Clintons lie, exaggerate, play the race and fear cards, and denigrate someone from the same party, and most of all, make admiring comments about McCain and endorse him. If this is how the first woman runs her campaign, she is an embarrassment to all women.
jimfromthefoothills
· 1 year ago
Tonya Harding Clinton. She doesn't know what the truth is. In her mind she is James Bond 007.
grasshopper
· 1 year ago
Ann, Mrs. Greenspan isn't an unbiased source in light of the fact Hillary picked Mr. Greenspan to be on her sub prime task force.
BorninUSA
· 1 year ago
I keep wondering why MSNBC keeps Pat Buchanan around. Was just watching David Gregory's show and Buchanan sits with that "pained" look on his face while the others are speaking. He can't wait to jump in and interrupt someone so he can look stupid. Tonight he was again stumping for a Clinton/Obama ticket. He thinks this would be a winner. Note: he never says an Obama/Clinton ticket; it is always Clinton/Obama. His time is so over.
gustavmahler
· 1 year ago
Please look at Hillary's comments about Bosnia, "I CLEARLY REMEMBER THE TRIP TO BOSNIA...." followed by her lies. This is not misspeaking!! Notice too how she does that nervous laughter before she lies again and says she is human and this is the first time 'in 12 years that I have misspoke". 12 years ago was 1996. What was happening then? Why did people defend her comments if she misspoke? Can we trust Hillary in the future? Millions of words a day comes out to 123 words per second. She is a liar pure and simple, lied about Bosnia, lied about Ireland, lied about NAFTA, will she tell more truth as president?
Indigo
· 1 year ago
The gotcha method doesn't play well with me. I don't like Hillary at all any more. She puts me in mind of too many failed administrators from the Reagan Era, the Total Quality Management movement, the Six Sigma Method and all the other bumper car management techniques that plagued the last quarter of the 20th century and seem to already subvert the promise of the early 21st.. I'm afraid it's going to take a real live shoot-em-up global war to put an end to the nonsense.
rgodfrey
· 1 year ago
My biggest fear is Al Gore. He's always seemed a little slimy and I don't trust him for delaying an endorsement of Obama. I think Gore is hoping that Billary damages Obama enough that Gore will step in as some "white knight" during the convention. Gore has always seemed like a snake in the grass to me ever since the 2000 election and I guarantee he is pulling some strings behind the scenes for his own corrupt agenda.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
about this whole Rev. Wright thing...
can anyone get me a link to the speech he gave that kicked this whole frenzy off??
I've gotten a bunch of soundbytes from it, and I can't find anything he said that I don't agree with.
The biggest issue they have with his speech? blaming 9/11 on our policy worldwide...
YES, our foreign policy CAUSED the attacks on 9/11... There, I finally said it. In fact, if you don't believe anything else Osama Bin Laden has said, he DID say THAT.
how many times can you infringe on a culture (WITH warnings from them) before you're going to see retalliation??
If someone bombs the USA, we tend to bomb them back... hell, we invaded a country without cause and we're STILL referring to people fighting us IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY as enemies?
the question remains, If THEY (Iraq) were a superpower, wouldn't they think of us as terrorist invaders??
ChicagoKid
· 1 year ago
You can't make this stuff up--lol!!!!
Shrillary, when trying to comment on the Wright/pastor issue, said, "You can't pick your family..."
Actually you can't choose you siblings, but you chose you husband! And since he was cumming all over Monica's dress you might have divorced him, but then you wouldn't have had a chance to be in pollitics.
Next time SHRILLARY needs to choose her words more carefully.
Misspoke aka misremembered= I was lying, but now I'm caught.
hector
· 1 year ago
McCain Addresses Housing Crisis Options By LIZ SIDOTI The Associated Press Tuesday, March 25, 2008; 4:03 PM
SANTA ANA, Calif. -- Republican John McCain on Tuesday derided government intervention to save and reward banks or small borrowers who behave irresponsibly though he offered few immediate alternatives to fixing the country's growing housing crisis.
"I will consider any and all proposals based on their cost and benefits," the certain GOP presidential nominee, who has acknowledged in the past that the economy is not his strong suit, told local business leaders south of Los Angeles. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
Not too sharp in politics either...
ChicagoKid
· 1 year ago
Note to John. Where in the hell is John Edwards?! He needs to come out and tell Shrillary to get out for the good of the party and let us not lose the Supreme Court.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
There is something wrong with the entire picture. Either Clinton is farther off her rocker than Richard Nixon in that she won't give up or else she is hanging on regardless because she has been promised the nomination even if Obama is ahead of her in the delegate count ... maybe even guaranteed the presidency. Right now, my guess is she is farther gone than Richard Nixon who finally was sane enough to give up and surrender to the inevitable. However, given the massive corruption we've seen that our government is capable of, it is indeed possible that she has been guaranteed the inauguration at noon on January 20, 2009.
This also calls into question her advisors. If they aren't advising her to concede to Obama at this point, there is also something wrong with them. At this point, she has demonstrated beyond a doubt that she is too flawed to be trusted with the Oval Office, especially when she is opposing a strong, charismatic candidate like Obama and apparently willing to destroy the Democratic party if she can't be the Democratic candidate.
rgodfrey
· 1 year ago
"Either Clinton is farther off her rocker than Richard Nixon in that she won't give up or else she is hanging on regardless because she has been promised the nomination even if Obama is ahead of her in the delegate count"
The Clintons are plenty corrupt, but they aren't stupid. Shillary knows she has no chance at winning the nomination. But I guarantee she and Slick Willie are pulling all kinds of strings behind the scenes right now to get their buddy Al Gore to step in. I'm hoping Matt Drudge or another journalist like Andrew Sullivan is able to break a story on that and short-cut their little plan. Don't forget that Gore was Bill's right-hand man during the corrupt 90's and probably has some favors to pay off. Basically anyone who has been close to the Clintons can't be trusted.
Rustyzipper
· 1 year ago
Love the Pastor reference...
I hear the Super D's are moving to Obama FAST.. Its about time some one did something to end this, Howard Dean has exercised no leadership. Much of the confusion over delegates, what the "rules" were/are, etc., is a consequence of his inept leadership. If the Dems lose in November, its because he failed to exercise any control over the party and disenfranchised millions of democratic voters. This is a real travesty. Come on Super D's show your stuff, and end this before its to late.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Hiya Rusty! Beating you in the race to -100. Just attack Taylor Marsh's blog and the hillbots over there and you might catch up :) (I'm NOT shaving my head though!!!!)
I can't believe the inaction of the so called leadership in the democratic party. The are just sitting on the sidelines watching the deathmatch that will leave the winner too bloodied to fight again and the loser dead (politically). The time for them to take action came a long time ago. They MUST tell hillary to get the hell out of the way already!
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
I could be mistaken but I thought there were stories about Gore intensely disliking the Clintons. I seriously doubt Gore would step in to help them.
markwatl
· 1 year ago
She is really making me sick.
Sage24
· 1 year ago
From what I gather, Al Gore is not too cozy with the Clintons. I am sure he is still mad with Romeo Bill for messing up his chances to win the Presidency in 2000. There is talk that Hillary was trying to be VP too! I am sure he leans towards Obama, but didn't someone say that he will remain neutral, because some folks need to be neutral to settle this fiasco?
grasshopper
· 1 year ago
Luna Stick,
Please don't blame Howard Dean. As Chairman of the DNC he's not allowed to get involved in the primary. Dr. Dean is responsible for the 50-state strategy which Barack's campaign is bringing to fruition. Terry McAuliffe and the rest of the Clinton DLC machine is bitterly opposed to Dean's bottom up grassroots/netroots approach. I'm sure privately Dean is in Barack's camp. Remember, Dean picked a little known Illinois State Senator to be in his original "Dean Dozen" which helped Barack get elected to the US Senate.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
I do like Dean grasshopper. I don't know what he can and can't do as chair of the DNC but there are other "leaders" who are free to stand up to the Clintons and make things clear to her. She can only win the nomination by destroying the party and she will get KILLED in the general election if she goes that route. Someone needs to get through that thick skull of hers and tell her to get out. If she doesn't do it after a private meeting, the leaders need to step up and go public with their concerns. Enough is enough already. SHE NEEDS TO GO!!!!!
DaveinMpls
· 1 year ago
4 posts on Bosnia today. A week or so ago, John accused the Clintons of inventing the politics of personal destruction (the term was invented during Bill's administration, the tactic itself was used against them). Now it appears that the Obama fans are the masters of personal destruction unless they're just desperate to divert attention from 20 years in Rev. Wright's church. Build your guy up (not one post today on BO's positive attributes). Show us what BO means by a new kind of politics, by change. Chicago-style politics is looking just as ugly as the southern-fried version...
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Oh please DaveinMpls. The "politics of personal destruction" is a tactic that may have once been used on the Clinton's but they have become the masters of it. Hillary is a definite never vote for as far as I'm concerned. She looks worse than McCain at this point. At least you know what he is going to do. Hillary is such a bald faced shameless liar there is NO WAY to tell what she will do. It's not about building up Obama. It's about recognizing that he is the last man standing among those who are acceptable to be president. The Wright thing is purely a troll tactic. Look at the whole of what he says and quit the soundbite shit and maybe you will learn something. Hillary's lies are OBVIOUS! All you got is a pastor.
DaveinMpls
· 1 year ago
LunaStick -
I'm not an HRC fan - you enjoy putting words in my mouth. Just saying Barack (or his supporters) seem to using the same tactics as Hillary. I don't think the Rev Wright thing will stick.
The point I've made consistently is that we need to be a united party in November. If Obama is the nominee, he will need to unite the party by overcoming resentment from MI/FL (argue the merit, but it will be there) and HRC supporters. What I see in your comments of contempt for your fellow Democrats is a John McCain victory
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Okay DavinMpls. What same tactics do you think the Obama campaign is using? Remember that we supporters here are not affiliated with the campaign. If Obama made such blatantly false statements as hillary has, he would deserve to face a lot of heat for it. So what real mistake has he made that is serious? What has he done that is unfair to hillary? I can list many things she has done. As to your point about reuniting the democratic party, not sure if that is possible unless hillary drops out (Yes, she must be the one to drop out and soon) It will also be up to her to do a lot of damage control and do a lot of convincing to her supporters. Obam needs to do a lot to win them over himself but she has to be the one to tell her supporters that Obama is the candidate she supports and she needs to do it emphatically.
Hey bowseat93. That anonymous party official stole my analogy! LOL!
( I made it a couple days ago)
DaveinMpls
· 1 year ago
bowseat93-
If Barack is susceptible to knee-capping (I don't think he is), better that it happen now and we send the stronger candidate to the general. If he wins the nomination, he'll be inoculated (i.e. everyone will be bored with Rev Wright and whatever by November).
If you guys think Barack is in danger of being "destroyed" by Hillary (I think that's paranoid), he certainly doesn't have what it takes to stand up the Republican smear machine in the fall.
Rustyzipper
· 1 year ago
Hiya Luna...
Just got back, I see your beating me :PP
I guess I need to try harder :)
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LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Happened overnight Rusty. You got to go to hillbot country and stir up trouble. That will get them to find every comment you ever made and drop it a point. Won't get them to comment or defend their girl but that's understandable given the circumstances. There is NO defense for her!
Rustyzipper
· 1 year ago
Luna, you'l have to send me the addy, I'd love to go there... in the mean time I'l vote +'s for you, so you don't beat me to -100. LOL
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Here you go Rusty. You won't find a more disgusting hack job of a blog even from a right winger. The commenters make Rush's dittoheads look reasonable. http://www.taylormarsh.com/
Olbermann just referenced the Tonya Harding Option! :) GO KEITH!
Rustyzipper
· 1 year ago
umm , speaking of the Wright thing, and Hill-billy bring it back up today... where are all those photos of Wright being at The WH with Bill and hill..."you can pick your pastor"?, can you also PICK your invitees??
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Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
DaveinMpls If Barack is susceptible to knee-capping (I don't think he is), better that it happen now and we send the stronger candidate to the general. If he wins the nomination, he'll be inoculated (i.e. everyone will be bored with Rev Wright and whatever by November).
If you guys think Barack is in danger of being "destroyed" by Hillary (I think that's paranoid), he certainly doesn't have what it takes to stand up the Republican smear machine in the fall.
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let's turn this around a bit... you actually think HILLARY is going to stand a chance when the mccain/rove machine goes after her??
yeah, right.
DaveinMpls
· 1 year ago
Soundboy_Jeff
"let's turn this around a bit... you actually think HILLARY is going to stand a chance when the mccain/rove machine goes after her??"
Everyone already knows her baggage and has made up their mind about it. There's not much else for them to say. Impressions of Barack are much more malleable. I'm not an HRC fan - just want a Dem in the WH.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
DaveinMpls said: Everyone already knows her baggage and has made up their mind about it. There's not much else for them to say. Impressions of Barack are much more malleable. I'm not an HRC fan - just want a Dem in the WH
A congressman supporting hillary on Hardball tonight tried to make that same argument but as Mathews pointed out, we didn't know about this. Hillary is adding baggage by the day. The cargo holds are overflowing with her baggage!
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Clinton Campaign Equates Wright to David Duke: these ratfuckers WANT to alienate the WHOLE African-American voting populace.
Rustyzipper
· 1 year ago
If Obama made the same"mis-spoken remarks about Bosnia, Wolfson would be spinning like a top.
Thanks Luna was just there... what a Hoot... We need to go there when Obama clinches this thing.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
YES RUSTY! We got to make plans to go over there and say Hi on the night Obama clinches ;)
We don't want to rub it in too much though do we? (wink wink)
I'm kidding of course but I got to admit that a part of me really wants to rub their noses in their shit.
grasshopper
· 1 year ago
DavinMpls, There's a world of difference between defending attacks from the Republican slime machine from one coming within the same house.
DaveinMpls
· 1 year ago
Well, LunaStick - have you been reading the news? This has been a back and forth all along (HRC may have started it). Let's just take the Bill Clinton comments last week that BO's adviser said smacked of McCarthyism. John Aravosis was outraged. If you saw the video, there's no way you would come to that interpretation. Even Bill Richardson repudiated the McCarthyism charge as ridiculous just after endorsing. But of course headlines read Bill Clinton = McCarthy (otherwise known as the politics of personal destruction).
I think the root problem is the presumption of most here at AB that everything BO does is in good faith and everything HRC does is in bad. I don't see that to be the case.
DaveinMpls
· 1 year ago
Yikes - need to clarify before I get pounced on. I think they are both acting in good faith to win the nomination.
Rustyzipper
· 1 year ago
DaveinMpls:
Hillary has won the golden ticket regarding Dishonesty.... and it will show in the Polls in the coming days.
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John Aravosis
· 1 year ago
Actually, a number of our readers saw the video and thought it reeked of McCarthyism, calling into question Obama's patriotism, etc. I was outraged about Clinton's comments, not at the McCarthyism charge, which was valid.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
DaveinMpls, I agree with John. I saw the whole context of what Bill said. He praised hillary and McCain as being patriots and then suggested it would be NICE to have two candidates who love their country to choose from. It was as direct an attack on Obama's patriotism as one could make without saying the words "Obama doesn't love America". The Clintons have done nothing in their campaign to make me want to vote for hillary but they have done a goos job of building up McCain as a potential president. Great fucking Job hillary!!
philip
· 1 year ago
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton doesn't have baggage.
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton has CARGO!
DaveinMpls
· 1 year ago
philip - "Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton doesn't have baggage.
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton has CARGO!
The most truly funny thing I've seen all day. Thanks.
cambridge1246
· 1 year ago
Was she supposed to attend an interview with a newspaper, like Obama did last week, and refuse to answer questions? She was asked pointedly about the Wright case and she said what SHE would do. She was not critical of Obama or anyone that I have heard, so I am sorry, but if she refused to answer questions, she would be getting hammered for being secretive. She didn't raise anything about the Wright controversy but the paper did. So why aren't they getting the criticsm for asking her about it? Or are we going to get any criticsm about the Obama supporters talking about the blue dress or asking Chelsea Clinton whether the Lewinsky affair hurt her Mother's credibility? Where is the class in those kinds of attacks?
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Damn, my first comment in reply got lost. (note, don't hit the hide button before you publish.
Cambridge1246, How did an Obama campaign worker get to aske Chelsea a question? Was it a reporter who asked her that question? Do you have a link as to when and where that question was asked (if indeed it was)? As to the Wright thing, last week hillary refused (rightly) to answer questions about that overblown controversy and was (rightly) praised for her discretion. Youe attempt to say she would be attacked for not answering that question is weak. It is only this now that she has been caught in this lie that she is trying to deflect the conversation back to Wright. A cheap attempt but I recognize it for what it is (desperation) and it is not the reason why I am hating her more today than I did yesterday.
DaveinMpls
· 1 year ago
mirth - well he did change his story about what he heard in Wright's church. He "revised" the amount of money he got from Rezko and we found out that he misrepresented his relationship with Rezko in one of the early debates (A few hrs work vs 17 years of close contact). In a comment the other night I linked to a WaPo story about how he took credit for work he did not do in the Senate... To read AB and it's loyalists, BO is perfect. I'm not an HRC fan, just a realist.
Ann_in_KC
· 1 year ago
This is a pretty good article.
The Obama Doctrine
Barack Obama is offering the most sweeping liberal foreign-policy critique we've heard from a serious presidential contender in decades. But will voters buy it?
So...now we know that when the phone rings at 3 P.M., Hillary is apt to tell the American people that she distinctly remembers it ringing at 3 A.M.
And 3 A.M. might be the time she figures out the phone actually rang at 3 P.M.
Sarah B.
· 1 year ago
Yeah, even Wolf gets it.
Well, I'm not sure that I would go that far -- Wolf still calls John McCain a "maverick" and a "straight-talker" and refers to Muqtada al-Sadr as the "Radical Firebrand Shiite Cleric" -- and he bought Bush's WMD and Saddam/al-Qaeda fictions hook, line, and sinker.
Actually, I doubt if Wolf really "gets it" -- he was probably just reading the teleprompter that contained a prepared script written by the show's writers and producers. He suffers from an advanced case of CNN Syndrome.
Wolf is a dim bulb -- 10 watts, maximum.
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sbhdawn
· 1 year ago
Lanny Davis, saying on A.C.360, that this is just "silly season" in answering this Bosnia thing and the Clinton tax records,. but no one said that it was just "silly season" when it concerned Barack and his Rev. sermon; which by the way was mostly true and coming from the perspective of Jesus's teachings in the Bible, regarding how to treat one's enemies and in that way, he spoke the truth!
edpell
· 1 year ago
When Clinton was campaigning for Senate in New York she stopped in Kingston, New York. A banner was placed over the Maritime Museum sign it read "Holocaust Museum" so Clinton was able to have a press release saying "Clinton visits Holocaust Museum in Kingston, New York". Lying is the way of Clinton.
mirth
· 1 year ago
rgodfrey,
Excepting your suspicion that Gore is a snake in the grass, I otherwise agree with your comment. And opposite of how I felt before he withdrew, I'm not too thrilled with Edwards either.
rgodfrey
· 1 year ago
I don't really care about Edwards because he doesn't have much support anyways. Gore has built his own fake mystique on claims that he invented the internet and has somehow saved the world from global climate change. I'm pro-Environment, but I just think Gore has used too much bitter partisan spin in his speeches much like extremist Michael Moore. If Gore had any integrity he would have endorsed Obama by now when it counts. Instead he is hoping to be crowned himself. The whole self-righteous Gore schtick makes me nauseus.
beltman713
· 1 year ago
Gore never said he invented the internet. You've been listening to the Republican smear machine too much.
mirth
· 1 year ago
aquarius,
The idea isn't that Gore would help Hillary. It is that Gore is waiting for a convention situation which makes him the candidate after Hillary has fatally bloodied Obama but does not have enough delegates to get the nom herself. There could be truth in this.
mirth
· 1 year ago
I'm good, Luna, if I overlook the Hillary news. ;) Otherwise my stomach feels sick and my hands curl into fists. You? Omg, I see you are beating me in neg points. Darnit! * Let me make this clear, DaveinMpls. Under no circumstances will I vote for Hillary Rotten Clinton.
DaveinMpls
· 1 year ago
mirth - i hope you get your chance to vote for Barack, then.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Hey Mirth! :) I got so mad last night reading a thread at Taylor Marsh's blog that I was spitting nails! Today's hillary newsconference has just put me right over the edge. I hate her! With a passion, I hate her! I will not vote for her. McCain is a better choice than her. Only if Bush were running for a third term would I consider voting for her and it would be very hard for me to do. Hillary is beneath contempt and so are many of her supporters (not all, I'll be fair)
mirth
· 1 year ago
For the sake of the country, DaveinMpls, I do too. And I think I will.
mirth
· 1 year ago
Me too, Luna. I've gone from disliking her voting record and her "centrist" shit to actually hating her. A visceral hate. I hope the citizens of NY are paying attention and vote her fat lying ass out of her Senate seat. And I agree McCain would be less destructive to our country than she would be.
mirth
· 1 year ago
DaveinMpls,
You are fooling no one that you are neutral. Your pro-Hillary bias is very obvious. S'ok. Support whom you like, but don't expect to last long here if you begin Hillbot shit. Word.
The fact is, Obama has not given us reason to doubt the things he tells us. If he begins lying and smearing, then John and his readers will call him out. But as of yet, that hasn't happened.
mirth
· 1 year ago
Excellent article, Ann_in_KC, and it tells the awesome potential Obama offers. Are voters are smart enough to buy it? That is iffy, to say the least.
Thanks for the link.
Ann_in_KC
· 1 year ago
"dignity promotion" is exactly what I've been telling anyone who'll listen, not in those words, but I work for a company that links up sponsors to third world children/families. My family sponsors a boy in Kenya and I'm visiting in September if the situation doesn't worsen. I think of it also as my little way of promoting peace. They get food, medicine, and uniforms/money for school. We help with basics + education to help them out of rock bottom. Hey, maybe it keeps them from being scooped up by terrorists groups.
mirth
· 1 year ago
I had a fun day answering a 6-page DNC questionaire...y'know, the fundraiser one disquised to make me feel like they actually care about my opinion? Thanks to my threadsmates and all I learn from them, I had quite a lot of notes in red next to each question. In the comment space where it asks what advice or ideas do I have for the DNC...ok, I really got into that and I addressed it to Howard Dean, kinda lengthy but boiled down it said to get Hillary to concede and get the fuck back to NY and then they will see a donation from me.
mirth
· 1 year ago
rgodfrey,
Ok, I have no agreement with your 2nd Gore comment. My objections to Gore have been, all along, that he swept into office on a DLC ticket and was a part of the (now fully being revealed) disastrous Clinton adm. One particularly disturbing Gore fact is that both he and Bill authorized extraordinary renditions. I have nothing but admiration for Gore's efforts to teach about global warming.
mirth
· 1 year ago
rgodfrey,
Please go to your Disqus Profile page and turn off email notifications. For some reason they bounce back here to the threads.
mirth
· 1 year ago
Good one Rusty. I'll bet those Wright/HillBill pics weren't included in today's coverage at CNN.
Luna, those Hillbot blogs, including taylor marsh's...gawdalmighty! No wonder the Dem party is so fractured. n Nastiest stuff on the Net.
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STFU and Drop Out.
Thanks.
We can't pick our family but we can pick our President....good bye traitor Hillary.
Then Bush will declassify everything Bill ever did...tomorrow.
tax returns
A guy on Tweety's show commented that if it was that dangerous (too dangerous for even Bubba to go), why would he have sent his wife and only child to a battle-torn area?
She also said something in PA today (dissing Obama, of course) that made me furious...so furious that I wouldn't vote for that political whore if I just don't vote at all in Nov.
I agree it must have happened somewhere to someone. Was it part of an episode of 24?
Who knows what she says tomorrow....
I actually have a signed photo from them in my living room....
It's time to take it down and put it in the closet....
And to think I actually gave money to their legal fund back in the late 90's....yea...I was one of the people who actually gave to them cause I felt sorry for them....
Hard to believe in just 10 years I've become so disgusted with them.
If you were targeted by a sniper, wouldn't you have nightmares? Must seem so real to her.
I hope they find her a nice nursing home.
Hillary is now being a FAT RACIST PIG again attacking Obama and Pastor Wright. I wish I could get this message to every voter in Pennsylvania. Hillary is a Liar and a Racist. She should eat shit and die!!!!
You think this awful woman wouldn't bomb Iran? Think again. She's on a quest to prove she has more balls than any man out there. Like killing people makes you a man...cheeeezus, my bile is rising.
HILARY,PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. PACK YOUR BAGS AND GO BACK TO NEW YORK.
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives...
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich
and THEN tell me she don't have Bat-sh!t Wingnuts in her closet , , ,
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So apparently Hillary Clinton was "sleep-deprived" when she forgot that she'd never dodged sniper fire while running from a plane in Tuzla...
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Actually, she must be sleep deprived an awful lot lately... because she used her 'misspoken' description of landing in Bosnia on FOUR SEPARATE OCCASIONS.
to use a bushism... 'that's a lotta misspokening!'
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http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=67634&comments=1
Glad Chelsea cleared THAT up.
I mean, look at the lunatic fundies that support THAT guy!
I saw the segment on Tweety's show with Sestak shilling for Hillary. He defended her by playing the sexist card saying voters had no problems with Teddy Roosevelt lying about leading a charge up San Juan Hill and JFK lying about having Addison's Disease. The Hillary campaign has really hit a new low.
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Yeah, Hillary Clinton, YOU HAD A CHOICE TO LEAVE YOUR CHEATING HUSBAND, TOO, YOU SELF-CENTERED POLITICAL ASSHOLE.
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LOL, why did she not leave her husband after he serially cheated on her ass? i know, because of her political career, she wanted to be president, that's why the bitch does not want to quit, because she wasted her time with bill.
What kind of sick individual would place their child in deadly danger for a publicity stunt?
Stupid or lying--we don't need four more years of this kind of bullshit.
If Hillary is so concerned about what someone's pastor said, why does she praise the leader of a right-wing theocratic cult to which she belongs?
http://www.lvrj.com/news/16948521.html
Question: Do you still think the Democratic race can be resolved before the convention?
Reid: Easy.
Q: How is that?
Reid: It will be done.
Q: It just will?
Reid: Yep.
Q: Magically?
Reid: No, it will be done. I had a conversation with Governor Dean (Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean) today. Things are being done.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/3/25/15...
and that Reid quote is scary. real scary.
June resolution. McCain meet us in the desert, this coming June, we are having that debate. Prepare yourself. The Obama statement "McCain will follow Bin Laden to the gates of hell, but he wont follow him to where he actually is"... sic. ouch.
During Hardball a journalist remarked that Hillary claiming that she was sent to places that were too poor or dangerous instead of the President was questionable. What kind of a President/father and mother, would send Chelsea on this so called dangerous journey? Are they bad parents or is Hillary a brazen liar. I think the latter.
So what exactly did Hillary "I am owed the nomination" Clinton, do in Bosnia?
Did she negotiate peace or policies? I see her strolling casually among the welcoming committee, receiving flowers and kisses, posing for photo ops, smiling and making nice. Does this count as experience? Who believes this BS anymore? Would she be grinning like an idiot, if there was ANY danger of sniper fire? Why is she insulting our intelligence?
It is time Hillary stepped out of this race. She has done everything possible to beat Obama, and has gone down to gutter politics to win. It is pathetic to see the Clintons lie, exaggerate, play the race and fear cards, and denigrate someone from the same party, and most of all, make admiring comments about McCain and endorse him. If this is how the first woman runs her campaign, she is an embarrassment to all women.
Why did people defend her comments if she misspoke?
Can we trust Hillary in the future?
Millions of words a day comes out to 123 words per second.
She is a liar pure and simple, lied about Bosnia, lied about Ireland, lied about NAFTA, will she tell more truth as president?
can anyone get me a link to the speech he gave that kicked this whole frenzy off??
I've gotten a bunch of soundbytes from it, and I can't find anything he said that I don't agree with.
The biggest issue they have with his speech? blaming 9/11 on our policy worldwide...
YES, our foreign policy CAUSED the attacks on 9/11... There, I finally said it.
In fact, if you don't believe anything else Osama Bin Laden has said, he DID say THAT.
how many times can you infringe on a culture (WITH warnings from them) before you're going to see retalliation??
If someone bombs the USA, we tend to bomb them back... hell, we invaded a country without cause and we're STILL referring to people fighting us IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY as enemies?
the question remains, If THEY (Iraq) were a superpower, wouldn't they think of us as terrorist invaders??
Shrillary, when trying to comment on the Wright/pastor issue, said, "You can't pick your family..."
Actually you can't choose you siblings, but you chose you husband! And since he was cumming all over Monica's dress you might have divorced him, but then you wouldn't have had a chance to be in pollitics.
Next time SHRILLARY needs to choose her words more carefully.
Misspoke aka misremembered= I was lying, but now I'm caught.
By LIZ SIDOTI
The Associated Press
Tuesday, March 25, 2008; 4:03 PM
SANTA ANA, Calif. -- Republican John McCain on Tuesday derided government intervention to save and reward banks or small borrowers who behave irresponsibly though he offered few immediate alternatives to fixing the country's growing housing crisis.
"I will consider any and all proposals based on their cost and benefits," the certain GOP presidential nominee, who has acknowledged in the past that the economy is not his strong suit, told local business leaders south of Los Angeles.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
Not too sharp in politics either...
This also calls into question her advisors. If they aren't advising her to concede to Obama at this point, there is also something wrong with them. At this point, she has demonstrated beyond a doubt that she is too flawed to be trusted with the Oval Office, especially when she is opposing a strong, charismatic candidate like Obama and apparently willing to destroy the Democratic party if she can't be the Democratic candidate.
The Clintons are plenty corrupt, but they aren't stupid. Shillary knows she has no chance at winning the nomination. But I guarantee she and Slick Willie are pulling all kinds of strings behind the scenes right now to get their buddy Al Gore to step in. I'm hoping Matt Drudge or another journalist like Andrew Sullivan is able to break a story on that and short-cut their little plan. Don't forget that Gore was Bill's right-hand man during the corrupt 90's and probably has some favors to pay off. Basically anyone who has been close to the Clintons can't be trusted.
I hear the Super D's are moving to Obama FAST.. Its about time some one did something to end this, Howard Dean has exercised no leadership. Much of the confusion over delegates, what the "rules" were/are, etc., is a consequence of his inept leadership. If the Dems lose in November, its because he failed to exercise any control over the party and disenfranchised millions of democratic voters. This is a real travesty. Come on Super D's show your stuff, and end this before its to late.
(I'm NOT shaving my head though!!!!)
I can't believe the inaction of the so called leadership in the democratic party. The are just sitting on the sidelines watching the deathmatch that will leave the winner too bloodied to fight again and the loser dead (politically). The time for them to take action came a long time ago. They MUST tell hillary to get the hell out of the way already!
There is talk that Hillary was trying to be VP too!
I am sure he leans towards Obama, but didn't someone say that he will remain neutral, because some folks need to be neutral to settle this fiasco?
Please don't blame Howard Dean. As Chairman of the DNC he's not allowed to get involved in the primary. Dr. Dean is responsible for the 50-state strategy which Barack's campaign is bringing to fruition. Terry McAuliffe and the rest of the Clinton DLC machine is bitterly opposed to Dean's bottom up grassroots/netroots approach. I'm sure privately Dean is in Barack's camp. Remember, Dean picked a little known Illinois State Senator to be in his original "Dean Dozen" which helped Barack get elected to the US Senate.
Build your guy up (not one post today on BO's positive attributes). Show us what BO means by a new kind of politics, by change. Chicago-style politics is looking just as ugly as the southern-fried version...
I'm not an HRC fan - you enjoy putting words in my mouth. Just saying Barack (or his supporters) seem to using the same tactics as Hillary. I don't think the Rev Wright thing will stick.
The point I've made consistently is that we need to be a united party in November. If Obama is the nominee, he will need to unite the party by overcoming resentment from MI/FL (argue the merit, but it will be there) and HRC supporters. What I see in your comments of contempt for your fellow Democrats is a John McCain victory
As to your point about reuniting the democratic party, not sure if that is possible unless hillary drops out (Yes, she must be the one to drop out and soon) It will also be up to her to do a lot of damage control and do a lot of convincing to her supporters. Obam needs to do a lot to win them over himself but she has to be the one to tell her supporters that Obama is the candidate she supports and she needs to do it emphatically.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com...
( I made it a couple days ago)
If Barack is susceptible to knee-capping (I don't think he is), better that it happen now and we send the stronger candidate to the general. If he wins the nomination, he'll be inoculated (i.e. everyone will be bored with Rev Wright and whatever by November).
If you guys think Barack is in danger of being "destroyed" by Hillary (I think that's paranoid), he certainly doesn't have what it takes to stand up the Republican smear machine in the fall.
Just got back, I see your beating me :PP
I guess I need to try harder :)
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http://www.taylormarsh.com/
Olbermann just referenced the Tonya Harding Option! :)
GO KEITH!
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If Barack is susceptible to knee-capping (I don't think he is), better that it happen now and we send the stronger candidate to the general. If he wins the nomination, he'll be inoculated (i.e. everyone will be bored with Rev Wright and whatever by November).
If you guys think Barack is in danger of being "destroyed" by Hillary (I think that's paranoid), he certainly doesn't have what it takes to stand up the Republican smear machine in the fall.
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let's turn this around a bit... you actually think HILLARY is going to stand a chance when the mccain/rove machine goes after her??
yeah, right.
"let's turn this around a bit... you actually think HILLARY is going to stand a chance when the mccain/rove machine goes after her??"
Everyone already knows her baggage and has made up their mind about it. There's not much else for them to say. Impressions of Barack are much more malleable. I'm not an HRC fan - just want a Dem in the WH.
Everyone already knows her baggage and has made up their mind about it. There's not much else for them to say. Impressions of Barack are much more malleable. I'm not an HRC fan - just want a Dem in the WH
A congressman supporting hillary on Hardball tonight tried to make that same argument but as Mathews pointed out, we didn't know about this. Hillary is adding baggage by the day. The cargo holds are overflowing with her baggage!
Thanks Luna was just there... what a Hoot... We need to go there when Obama clinches this thing.
We don't want to rub it in too much though do we?
(wink wink)
I'm kidding of course but I got to admit that a part of me really wants to rub their noses in their shit.
I think the root problem is the presumption of most here at AB that everything BO does is in good faith and everything HRC does is in bad. I don't see that to be the case.
Hillary has won the golden ticket regarding Dishonesty.... and it will show in the Polls in the coming days.
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Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton has CARGO!
"Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton doesn't have baggage.
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton has CARGO!
The most truly funny thing I've seen all day. Thanks.
Cambridge1246,
How did an Obama campaign worker get to aske Chelsea a question? Was it a reporter who asked her that question? Do you have a link as to when and where that question was asked (if indeed it was)?
As to the Wright thing, last week hillary refused (rightly) to answer questions about that overblown controversy and was (rightly) praised for her discretion. Youe attempt to say she would be attacked for not answering that question is weak. It is only this now that she has been caught in this lie that she is trying to deflect the conversation back to Wright. A cheap attempt but I recognize it for what it is (desperation) and it is not the reason why I am hating her more today than I did yesterday.
The Obama Doctrine
Barack Obama is offering the most sweeping liberal foreign-policy critique we've heard from a serious presidential contender in decades. But will voters buy it?
SPENCER ACKERMAN | March 24, 2008
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the...
And 3 A.M. might be the time she figures out the phone actually rang at 3 P.M.
Well, I'm not sure that I would go that far -- Wolf still calls John McCain a "maverick" and a "straight-talker" and refers to Muqtada al-Sadr as the "Radical Firebrand Shiite Cleric" -- and he bought Bush's WMD and Saddam/al-Qaeda fictions hook, line, and sinker.
Actually, I doubt if Wolf really "gets it" -- he was probably just reading the teleprompter that contained a prepared script written by the show's writers and producers. He suffers from an advanced case of CNN Syndrome.
Wolf is a dim bulb -- 10 watts, maximum.
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Excepting your suspicion that Gore is a snake in the grass, I otherwise agree with your comment. And opposite of how I felt before he withdrew, I'm not too thrilled with Edwards either.
The idea isn't that Gore would help Hillary. It is that Gore is waiting for a convention situation which makes him the candidate after Hillary has fatally bloodied Obama but does not have enough delegates to get the nom herself.
There could be truth in this.
You?
Omg, I see you are beating me in neg points. Darnit!
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Let me make this clear, DaveinMpls. Under no circumstances will I vote for Hillary Rotten Clinton.
I got so mad last night reading a thread at Taylor Marsh's blog that I was spitting nails! Today's hillary newsconference has just put me right over the edge. I hate her! With a passion, I hate her! I will not vote for her. McCain is a better choice than her. Only if Bush were running for a third term would I consider voting for her and it would be very hard for me to do. Hillary is beneath contempt and so are many of her supporters (not all, I'll be fair)
You are fooling no one that you are neutral. Your pro-Hillary bias is very obvious. S'ok. Support whom you like, but don't expect to last long here if you begin Hillbot shit. Word.
The fact is, Obama has not given us reason to doubt the things he tells us. If he begins lying and smearing, then John and his readers will call him out. But as of yet, that hasn't happened.
Thanks for the link.
Ok, I have no agreement with your 2nd Gore comment.
My objections to Gore have been, all along, that he swept into office on a DLC ticket and was a part of the (now fully being revealed) disastrous Clinton adm. One particularly disturbing Gore fact is that both he and Bill authorized extraordinary renditions. I have nothing but admiration for Gore's efforts to teach about global warming.
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Luna, those Hillbot blogs, including taylor marsh's...gawdalmighty! No wonder the Dem party is so fractured. n
Nastiest stuff on the Net.