Desperate to resuscitate his diminishing hopes for the White House, John McCain during tonight's presidential town hall meeting dramatically reversed course on a mortgage bailout for home owners. This spring, McCain adamantly stated "it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers." Now with his presidential campaign and the economy in dire straits alike, John McCain decided to open the federal wallet after all.
And the CNN People Meter dropped like a stone when he said it. Most Republicans HATE the idea of bailing out individuals who shouldn't have bought houses in the first place (specifically, people of the darkly-pigmented persuasion). Maddow pointed out on Olberman 2 (around 1110 EST) that the right-wing blogs are howling about it.
Vince in Cedar Rapids
· 1 year ago
I got mine and my partner's absentee ballots in the mail today. We voted for Obama (of course)! :) I am finally starting to feel a little better about this election; as long as people in either Ohio or Florida (or both) don't choose more recession and more war and hand it to McCain.
kirkaracha
· 1 year ago
Relax.
1) Obama can win the election without getting either Florida or Ohio.
2) He's probably going to win both.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Said it before:
Dealing with Hillary 19 times or whatever was the best training Obama could have had.
Debating with McCain must be a piece of cake after that.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
Damn Bill and HIllary bought all McCain's ammunition, donated it to the McCain campaign and then loaded the gun, aimed it at Obama and left it up to McCain to pull the trigger. Luckily McCain messed up the aim, and can't hit the broad side of a barn.
Iowa_Democrat
· 1 year ago
Well 25% of those must be the same group that thinks Bush is doing a good job too. Not sure what rock they found the other 5%.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Look at these CBS snap poll numbers (h/t kos):
Will Obama will make the right decisions on the economy?
Before debate: 54 After debate: 68
Will McCain will make the right decisions on the economy?
Before debate: 41 After debate: 49
bill__free
· 1 year ago
FOX NEWS LOL. This is the results on the screen Who won the debate?
McCain 86% Obama 12% Undecided 1%
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Huh? That is unbelievable! Are they making up numbers? I mean no other poll is even in that category.
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
It must be their online poll. It means nothing but wishful thinking.
shrrrr
· 1 year ago
Ahh. That explains it.
devlzadvocate
· 1 year ago
Mobile text poll.
butchcjg
· 1 year ago
As predicted the Republicans want to cling to the moment where John McCain patted the veteran on the back and shook his hand.
But, that was when the national spotlight was on him and the cameras were rolling.
When the cameras were off, John McCain was nowhere to be found. He left 2-3 minutes after the debate. Who stayed? Barack Obama. He probably shook every hand in that town hall. He laughed with them. Signed autographs. Took pictures. He was there at least 15 minutes afterwards.
Where was John McCain? His handshake wasn't genuine - it was a planned moment. We all knew that he was going to try to do something to prove he's "touching" and does well in a townhall. It was not genuine. He didnt care once the cameras were off.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
McCain comes off like a living history exhibit...a flickering black & white pastiche of slogan bits from yore mashed together with a jilted lover's accusatory tone and his signature, very irritating tourette-like barking of "my friends".
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Sometimes you REALLY make my night with your observations, Prezzildent. Tonight is one of them. bwahahahahahahahahaha!
"tourette-like barking of 'my friends.'"
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
God almighty, what about the other 16%?? What the hell are they waiting for, a check or something? Honestly, at this point in the election and 16% are undecided on this debate?
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
They are the suggestible sheep who have no business getting near a voting booth. They are the ones who wake up in a different universe every day. They are the ones who vote against someone because they don't like their hair style or think someone is too geeky to be President.
nsr
· 1 year ago
Part of that must be for Michelle. When Brokaw asked him what he didn't know, and he said, my wife would have a longer list than me, and the camera showed her sitting in the stands. They're such a great couple.
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
I missed most of the debate, damn it.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Ha!
Another Frank Luntz focus group picks the Dem as the winner--Bet Fox fires him.
Frank Luntz's focus group, over at Fox, showed undecided voters leaning towards Obama because of his position on health care.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
One thing I've noticed about CNN's bally hooed UNDECIDEDS in Ohio. Whenever Soledad asks them a question, NO MATTER WHAT THE QUESTION, a majority of them raises their hands as "Yes," but then when she asks for them to raise their hand again for the "No" vote then a minority raise their hands. Just goes to show you what idiots and how suggestible they are! ONLY SEVEN made up their minds tonight. FOOLS!
devlzadvocate
· 1 year ago
Robert Gibbs, Obama Comm. Director, just reamed Hannity on Fox. I thought Hannity was going to leap out of his chair at him.
justndav32
· 1 year ago
But CNN had 25 uncommitted Ohioans who said if they voted today it would be 14 McCain 11 Obama, that is still not good.
devlzadvocate
· 1 year ago
McCain can have those 14. Obama will probably get the rest of the state.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
I wouldn't worry.
As somebody below said, those people are pretty suggestible.
(It would mean more if we knew how many were voting for each before the debate--then we could compare.)
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
It was me, and I noticed that those IDIOTS who are undecided and "the stars" of tonight's debate are highly suggestible. Hell, all Soledad had to do is ask a question a certain way, and make sure she asked if McCain won FIRST and the majority of their sheeple hands went up. One hand goes up real fast and the majority of the other hands go up. Those idiots don't know what day it is.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Meanwhile, SurveyUSA interviewed 741 debate watchers in the state of Washington, 54 percent of whom thought Obama was the "clear winner" compared with McCain's 29 percent. That same polling firm had the first debate as a tie.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
McCrankypants! I love that
interlude
· 1 year ago
msnbc has Obama with 83%, McCain with 13%
unrepentant_expat
· 1 year ago
Preaching to the converted, or was that polling the converted?
Opponents of a campaign to ban same-sex marriage in California said Tuesday that a new poll shows them in danger of losing -- unless people step forward with more contributions to pay for No on 8 television commercials.
The opposition has enjoyed a healthy lead in several surveys taken by polling organizations that do not have a stake in the campaign. But officials with the No on 8 campaign held a conference call with reporters Tuesday to announce that their own poll showed the measure would pass by four points. Opponents attributed the result to fewer television ads, which is, in turn, a result of the No on 8 campaign falling behind in fundraising.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Damned haters.
devlzadvocate
· 1 year ago
Today, I heard one of the most amazing reasons possible for voting for McCain: "He is more like a Democrat than Bush."
The responses that went through my head almost made my pass out. All I could come up with was, "Then why not vote for a real Democrat?" Then I had to leave so I could laugh and call people to share.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
The absolute most stand out thing in this debate for me was the question on healthcare.
Obama thinks it is a right.
McCain thinks it is a responsibility.
devlzadvocate
· 1 year ago
yeah, but whose responsibility? he didn't go there
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Any polls about McCain's red and orange tie?
unrepentant_expat
· 1 year ago
That wasn't a tie, it was a tourniquet.. it impedes the flow of thoughts from the brain.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
If I were David Gergen, I would shave my head. He has GOT TO STOP with that stupid looking flip of his hair to try to mask his hair loss. For god sake, David, shave your head and ROCK ON! I'm proud of my shaved head. As far as I'm concerned, hair just "gets in the way."
Gergen wins "sourpuss of the night" award. I'm seriously tired of him pooh poohing Obama. We all know David predicted HIllary would win and was wrong. Get over it, David. You are not as smart as you think you are!
devlzadvocate
· 1 year ago
It's his cheap Donald Trump impression.
gumbygirl
· 1 year ago
Obama killed tonight! My darling dears, as much as I would like to stay up and crow, I must get to bed-I have a midterm tomorrow on modern European drama : Ibsen, Chekhov, Shaw, and Synge. Pray for me...
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
OMG, I'll pray for you because you are speaking a foreign language.
Good luck on your TEST! Kill it like Obama did the debate!
As propsed on the thread below and as a rational and meaningful fuel alternative I say we sacrifice the fat bastard Karl Rove on national TV to immediately thereafter render the almost infinite amount of lard off Rove's freshly dead arse in order to heat Boston for at least a weeeknd.
devlzadvocate
· 1 year ago
There was a handshake at the end in front of the monitor when Brokaw said, "You are blocking my script". The camera caught it from the back and have it on DVR.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Wow.
Tweety started his show by saying "the Democrats are now up 3 to zip on debates."
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Holy Moly, Roger Simon, water boy for the Repubicans, just admitted Obama won. The world must be ending
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
What do you want a bet McCain left early to go home and beat the crap out of Cindy? He seems like the kind of guy who would lose and take it out on his wife. I will be watching to see if Cindy joins him over the next few days.....
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
or wears dark glasses tomorrow. I wonder how many holes he kicks in the wall tonight?
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
He really looked pissed tonight.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
I hate to bring this up but I wonder what Mrs. Mean Mouth is going to have to say tomorrow?
devlzadvocate
· 1 year ago
you mean my sister-in-law?
cmuchick519
· 1 year ago
Sacrifices America must make: Haven't we already made sacrifices? Thanks to Bush college students are stuck with a debt that we will not be able to repay in our life time. So now the candidates have to restructure! McCain states programs are going to have to be cut, but why? Shouldn't the government restructure the way there is a loop hole for their pentions. For instance, Bush will now get a pention as a senator, president and the military forces. Shouldn't this loop hole be fixed before they go after important programs that are helping the U.S? As for the loses of jobs in the U.S. make companies keep them in the country stop letting companies send them out of America. It's time for both of these candidates to get their plans straight and explain to the citizens of the U.S. exactly what this entails to every state not just as a country. AND STOP PUTTING THE OTHER PERSON DOWN IN DEBATES! WE WANT TO KNOW THE ISSUES!
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
Matthews, et al can't say enough about how good Obama was and how lousy McCain did. Keep up the momentum, Obama.
zorbinlbl
· 1 year ago
Well, I noticed at the end of the debate that Sen. McCain was busy just shaking hands with all the men while Sen. Obama was shaking hands with both men and women plus having his picture taken with them. Then when Sen. McCain tapped Sen. Obama on his left shoulder while standing to his right (like when a child does it to make you spin around) and Sen. Obama went to his left to acknowledge Sen. McCain tapping him, Sen. McCain stepped back and away from Sen. Obama extending his hand to Sen. McCain, so instead Sen. Obama then greeted and acknowledged Sen. McCain's wife and little taken aback from the whole ordeal. Then Sen. Obama walked away and continued to greet the audience. That was very distasteful of Sen. McCain and he really showed EXACTLY how he really is. Plus, Sen. McCain walked around very stiff when he spoke and uncomfortable about the whole debate, as if he was being controlled by someone with an Atari game controller, while Sen. Obama was calm, cool and collective.
The biggest thing that makes me applaud Sen. Obama is how he will not lower himself to Sen. McCain's level of c___p and when answering the question about health care that it is a RIGHT, not a responsibility.
I haven't voted since 2000, but I will now for I believe my vote will count this time and I will be voting for Sen. Obama. He gives me hope, something that I haven't had for a very long time. And for all of you out there: My family was born and raised Rep. for generations, but in 2000 we changed to independent because there was no way in H___ we were going to vote for Bush, we decided to vote for the man not for the political party.
WE BELIEVE IN "CHANGE WE NEED"
rphnh
· 1 year ago
I was taking notes the whole time. It was a draw and a disappointment. They said nothing they haven't already said before, including their swapping of negative comments.
They disrespected the moderator, as usual, and as usual the moderator and/or producer didn't have the nerve to turn their mikes off when they didn't stop.
Your poll is faulty, as always; it reflects your viewership so it is left leaning. Many people in this country don't have Internet but do vote. Many people in this country have caller i.d. and pollsters don't show up by name so the phone doesn't get answered. Time to address this technology gap to get at poll results that truly reflect the voting public.
drdem
· 1 year ago
Obama was sooo wonderful , I really think we the people have a real chance this time to win !!!! McCain was proven a very old , old bitter man with nothing new to say . I guess "Granpa" can go back to his rockin' chair and Palin can put her "mukluks" back on and go back to huntin' mooses
cramoverian
· 1 year ago
McCain won in my opinion. He was presidential and stayed strong through the debate. The apology issue was well within context and I believe that Obama strayed off topic more than McCain. I hope everyone makes the correct decision, this country cannot stand for another tilted government. First the republican way, and now the democrat way if Obama is elected. The liberal side is not going unheard with a democrat majority in congress. Remember it was a DEMOCRAT that sank us in a DEPRESSION!!!
Mkolsen
· 1 year ago
I feel that the McCain-Palin party are like the Beverly Hillbillies with the way they talk with there Oh say it ain't so Joe, and cock a may me remarks. I feel that all McCain did in this debate was sling mud and he tried to make Obama look bad and he really didn't address any of the major issues
All Comments
For details on McCain's past statements and cynical turnabout, see:
"McCain Flip-Flops on Mortgage Bailout for Homeowners."
1) Obama can win the election without getting either Florida or Ohio.
2) He's probably going to win both.
Dealing with Hillary 19 times or whatever was the best training Obama could have had.
Debating with McCain must be a piece of cake after that.
Will Obama will make the right decisions on the economy?
Before debate: 54
After debate: 68
Will McCain will make the right decisions on the economy?
Before debate: 41
After debate: 49
This is the results on the screen
Who won the debate?
McCain 86%
Obama 12%
Undecided 1%
But, that was when the national spotlight was on him and the cameras were rolling.
When the cameras were off, John McCain was nowhere to be found. He left 2-3 minutes after the debate. Who stayed? Barack Obama. He probably shook every hand in that town hall. He laughed with them. Signed autographs. Took pictures. He was there at least 15 minutes afterwards.
Where was John McCain? His handshake wasn't genuine - it was a planned moment. We all knew that he was going to try to do something to prove he's "touching" and does well in a townhall. It was not genuine. He didnt care once the cameras were off.
"tourette-like barking of 'my friends.'"
Another Frank Luntz focus group picks the Dem as the winner--Bet Fox fires him.
Frank Luntz's focus group, over at Fox, showed undecided voters leaning towards Obama because of his position on health care.
As somebody below said, those people are pretty suggestible.
(It would mean more if we knew how many were voting for each before the debate--then we could compare.)
I love that
Opponents of a campaign to ban same-sex marriage in California said Tuesday that a new poll shows them in danger of losing -- unless people step forward with more contributions to pay for No on 8 television commercials.
The opposition has enjoyed a healthy lead in several surveys taken by polling organizations that do not have a stake in the campaign. But officials with the No on 8 campaign held a conference call with reporters Tuesday to announce that their own poll showed the measure would pass by four points. Opponents attributed the result to fewer television ads, which is, in turn, a result of the No on 8 campaign falling behind in fundraising.
The responses that went through my head almost made my pass out. All I could come up with was, "Then why not vote for a real Democrat?" Then I had to leave so I could laugh and call people to share.
Obama thinks it is a right.
McCain thinks it is a responsibility.
Gergen wins "sourpuss of the night" award. I'm seriously tired of him pooh poohing Obama. We all know David predicted HIllary would win and was wrong. Get over it, David. You are not as smart as you think you are!
Good luck on your TEST! Kill it like Obama did the debate!
As propsed on the thread below and as a rational and meaningful fuel alternative I say we sacrifice the fat bastard Karl Rove on national TV to immediately thereafter render the almost infinite amount of lard off Rove's freshly dead arse in order to heat Boston for at least a weeeknd.
Tweety started his show by saying "the Democrats are now up 3 to zip on debates."
Haven't we already made sacrifices? Thanks to Bush college students are stuck with a debt that we will not be able to repay in our life time. So now the candidates have to restructure! McCain states programs are going to have to be cut, but why? Shouldn't the government restructure the way there is a loop hole for their pentions. For instance, Bush will now get a pention as a senator, president and the military forces. Shouldn't this loop hole be fixed before they go after important programs that are helping the U.S? As for the loses of jobs in the U.S. make companies keep them in the country stop letting companies send them out of America. It's time for both of these candidates to get their plans straight and explain to the citizens of the U.S. exactly what this entails to every state not just as a country. AND STOP PUTTING THE OTHER PERSON DOWN IN DEBATES! WE WANT TO KNOW THE ISSUES!
Keep up the momentum, Obama.
The biggest thing that makes me applaud Sen. Obama is how he will not lower himself to Sen. McCain's level of c___p and when answering the question about health care that it is a RIGHT, not a responsibility.
I haven't voted since 2000, but I will now for I believe my vote will count this time and I will be voting for Sen. Obama. He gives me hope, something that I haven't had for a very long time. And for all of you out there: My family was born and raised Rep. for generations, but in 2000 we changed to independent because there was no way in H___ we were going to vote for Bush, we decided to vote for the man not for the political party.
WE BELIEVE IN "CHANGE WE NEED"
They said nothing they haven't already said before, including their swapping of negative comments.
They disrespected the moderator, as usual, and as usual the moderator and/or producer didn't have the nerve to turn their mikes off when they didn't stop.
Your poll is faulty, as always; it reflects your viewership so it is left leaning. Many people in this country don't have Internet but do vote. Many people in this country have caller i.d. and pollsters don't show up by name so the phone doesn't get answered. Time to address this technology gap to get at poll results that truly reflect the voting public.
time to win !!!! McCain was proven a very old , old bitter man with nothing new to say . I guess "Granpa" can go back to his rockin' chair and Palin can put her "mukluks" back on and go back to huntin' mooses