DISQUS

MelindaK · 1 year ago

I wish Obama wouldn't resign. We all should have religious freedom. I still don't understand what was so shocking about what Rev. Wright said. It sounded like common sense to me.

zavlin · 1 year ago

This isnt exactly good news. This will fuel the muslim rumors.

AngelaChanning · 1 year ago

Sad, but not surprising. I hope he finds a new church pretty quick because we all know it will be spun that he is not a Christian. I just hope Tom Cruise and Kirstie Alley don't extend any invitations. LOL.

nicho · 1 year ago

Any chance he'll join Hagee's church? (Just kidding)

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

I still wonder why it seemed they had videotapes of everything going on inside.

WTF? Were their services televised or something?

Otherwise, I've never seen a church with so much videotape of its services.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Very short Kos diary:

Chuck Todd on MSNBC reporteds that a reliable source has told him that the RBC committee is nearly done deciding.

Apparently they are going to take Senator Levin's proposal for a 69 for Hillary, 59 for Obama solution. But they want to punish MI by dividing that in half. So Clinton will only have a 5 vote advantage. However, to sweeten it for Obama they are throwing in 2 add-ons....they're coming back in now.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/31/17593/8...

cmpnwtr · 1 year ago

If you run for president, everything that goes on in your church, or wherever you hang out, is your fault.

Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago

Awesome! I love separation of church and state.

Got Democracy? Obama '08!

KISSman · 1 year ago

It's pretty crazy that the 2008 election's most publicized issues have been about pastors. WTF??

While it's politically a good thing to get this particular church behind Obama (although a shame that it has to be so), him leaving could start raising that specter that he's not Christian, blah, blah, blah...

It SHOULDN'T, but when you still have 1 in 10 people who think he is a muslim, I expect the current stealth campain to paint him as muslim to use Obama's decision as yet another reason to prove that he is.

Anyhow, Obama needs to get himself a new church sooner than later so that his faith doesn't become a bigger diversion than it already is -- not that it ever should have been.

Miket298 · 1 year ago

RBC is finally back in session!

OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago

How sad that Obama must do this, and yet, fundies get away with taking money from the govt to pursue their own fascist goals, McBush gets away with associating himself and soliciting whacked out white church endorsements related to armaggedon and "rapture" theology.

I'm actually more concerned about how the AA community will take this, and whether they will see Obama as just another political sell out. How on earth could you not be an advocate of liberation theology in this day and age? I've seen far more conspiratorial theses coming from white web sites than govt collusion in spreading AIDS in AA communities. The black churches in general have stood on the side of social justice--and what's wrong with that? Unless, of course, you subscribe to fascist ideology.

elperropatron · 1 year ago

I know that many people have been waiting for decades for a black or Hispanic of female president.

I have been waiting for decades for an atheist or agnostic or at least a very secular president who doesn't kowtow to ANY church/synagogue/mosque.

The current nonsense with both McCain and Obama's religious supporters is a prime example of why.

elRey · 1 year ago

organized religions all over the world = the only true evil!

OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago

I'm just glad I'm an atheist. We see how religion divides this country, and how politicians exploit that for their own gain. The US is not a "christian" nation by any means and no one should have to swear allegiance to "christianity" in order to hold office because we have a clause in the Constitution that separates church and state, although it's pretty much always been a joke.

Our allegiance should be to the Constitution, not the Bible or any other fabulistic writings.

ffbuzz · 1 year ago

I'd like to also say that I like how people have also pointed out that we are better off having a candidate who either has no religion, or doesn't discuss it. Why on Earth should this matter? Aren't we suppose to be against Fascism of any kind? We should be running the other way the moment someone says the word, "God".

ChicagoKid · 1 year ago

The church and it's leaders has done nothing but harm to his chances. He was smart to kick them to the curb. WIth friends like these, you wonder how much ROve was paying them?!?!

jr · 1 year ago

camera fetishists taping everything

TampaZeke · 1 year ago

I hope he will join a United Church of Christ in Washington DC. There's no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The UCC is a wonder, progressive and active church dedicated to peace with justice and inclusion. It's just a shame that Trinity has brought so much bad press to the denomination. We don't demand conformity from our churches. Trinity is not representative of the entire denomination. Trinity and Rev. Wright have done some wonderful things in their community but I believe most people in the UCC are very bothered by the tenor, tone and message coming from the pulpit there.

I just hope Obama continues as a member of the United Church of Christ.

Bubbles · 1 year ago

He should join an AME community. I stayed at a hotel where the AME was hosting it's annual convention. They were the most impressive collection of people I have ever seen.

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

What is nice about the UCC church is each church is mostly a separate entity. I'm in agreement with "TampaZeke." I agree that Trinity has ROYALLY screwed up and just made a mockery of themselves by having their pastor and guest pastors incite so much unnecessary controversy! Then again, it should be GOOD ENOUGH for Obama to simply state he is a Christian, and stay the hell away from pastors who have injected their ego into the race. Politics and Church need to remain separate.

Judd · 1 year ago

I thought he was the candidate for change. Flipflopping about your stance on your church and pastor and then completely dumping them because they have become a threat to your political aspirations seem like the actions of an old D.C. pro.

Gary SF · 1 year ago

There aren't many churches that could not be subjected to negative exploitation for political gain. From the Catholic church with their decades of sexual abuse and current-day hatred of gays to Hagee's hatred of Catholics and gays, to the whacked-out Mormons to the creationist Baptists, 90% of them are either nuts or hateful and/or both. Of course, a Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, etc. would not have any chance of winning, even if their was no lunacy/hatred within their religions. Then there are the 'welcoming and affirming' activist churches that do good deeds, but are hated by their religious hierarchy. The state of 'faith in America' is a mess. I think it is time for an atheist to run for president and for religion to be confined to one's church or home.