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The Republicans are ashamed of her. Only the rapid right could watch that tripe coming from Palin's mouth and not want to run screaming out the door.
Moosie was Dick Cheney with a wink and an updo...
The way that she went from not knowing what the VP does, to inventing powers for it to do. Biden should incorporate a little dig at that in his speech (Obama should stick against McCain) that the public can't afford another VP who doesn't respect the Constitution. Respect for all Americans starts with respect for the Constitution and the rules and separation of powers defined within.
If Penn had the brains to enter all the caucuses, we probably would have been seeing Hillary up there tonight.
I wish they would talk about how Joe Biden did for a change.
"I'm
too sexy for your question --
too sexy for your question --
no way I'm compromising!"
(w/respect to Right Said Fred)
Seriously, I'm so grateful to see that some CNN watchers can see beyond the little come-hither shrug/nose-wrinkle stuff... *oh* so appropriate for discussion of war and nuclear weapons!
Now if that does not spell dangerous, nothing will.
I hope the Obama camp will use those words in an ad.
The VP Debate: The Strangest I've Ever Seen
Exactly an hour into the debate, Joe Biden began an answer by saying, "Facts matter, Gwen."
To him, maybe. To Sarah Palin, maybe not. The pattern, so far, has been one of Biden presenting facts and Palin countering with… saying stuff.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/2/224641/...
Howard, on the other hand, trotted out hard facts, numbers and research showing specifically how certain projects would be accomplished, even under budget. (Bee clued in and dropped out-would that Palin had that kinda sense...don'cha know...) Basically, the Palin-Biden debate was an Andy Griffith rerun...
I was leaning towards John McCain in this election, first time to vote for a Republican. But if choosing someone of Sarah Palin's limited experience is indicative of the type of decisions he would make as President, my feelings have substantially changed. Also, if the election committee thought that by selecting a woman (oh, any woman will do, just get one), that's a slap in the face to women AND men. It's like saying that the reason people supported Hillary Clinton was just because she was a woman, her policies and experience and involvement in government both foreign and domestic had no bearing. The McCain committee seems to be of the opinion Hillarry was getting votes just because she was a woman. What's that old line, "With a bag over their head they're all alike." How very commendable, and predictable of old line Republican men.
But wait, I do not want to leave out Obama/Biden. I do not feel that a man who would align himself in friendship and religion for twenty years with a minister who so scorned the United States would not have know that minister's feelings. I question that perhaps Barack Obama felt/feels somewhat atune to those feelings. I hope I am wrong. Joe Biden, demonstrated graciousness tonight toward Sarah Palin. High marks for that because I think he could have levelled her with little effort. He took the high road. But this is a seasoned politician and aren't we wanting, needing, change?
So, during the next four years how about those of us moderates getting together and developing a group of Americans that want to take back America for Americans? Rip it right out of the hands of lobbyists and special interest groups and let them know we are foreclosing on them and taking the House (and Senate) back. Oh yeah, by the way, the President now works for America, not for big business contributors. Let's put an end to these stupid red states and blue states. Let's be what we used to be really good at being, The United States of America for ALL Americans!
P.S. By the way John, please drop the use of tired, tired, tired term of Maverick. Good lord man,give it up please! No one is buying it anymore.
When Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla, her budget would not allow for the city of Wasilla to pay for the rape kits that were needed in the investigation of crimes. Even though her police chief acted as her mouthpiece...as she stated tonight..."...there were things that she wanted to zero out in her budgets...but she faced resistance on both sides of the aisle...." This is a matter of record. This was a major battle with the state legislature of Alaska and the city of Wasilla. The OFFICIALS at the state level of Alaska...said that they got more resistance from Wasilla, than from any other city in Alaska. Please Note: Those kits provide the morning after pill...to prevent pregnancy. Sarah is adamantly against any typeof abortion. It does not matter if the pregnancy is a result of rape or incest. She believes that the woman or the girl should be forced to carry to term...get counseling...and then if she chooses; give the child up for adoption. Please Note: The Mayor sets the city budget; the appointed officials are responsible for meeting that budget. All of this is on the record. You can even check the Alaska Daily News or the Fairbanks Newsminer...they have been carrying this story.
I give it to Biden because he continuously focused on the issues and the record which is what gives us an idea of what we can expect from both parties post-Nov. 4. Palin's repeating of "Maverick", "Hockey/Soccer Mom", and every other cliche in the book is starting to annoy me. But maybe it's working on the rest of the country, that wouldn't shock me at all.
The MCCain/Palin ticket was trying to capture the VOTES of Minnesotans...and the people of that region. They felt that they were secure with the south. Asof this weekend, they are losing key areas of the south. They are struggling in the northwest.
One thing, I can say: Now, Alaskans know the truth of -WHO- Sarah Palin really is. She no longer has the power to bully and manipulate Alaskans...the way that she has in the past. Her selection has actually done the state of Alaska a huge favor.
YOUR WELCOME!
PALIN: "Barack Obama even supported increasing taxes as late as last year for those families making only $42,000 a year."
BIDEN: "The charge is absolutely not true. Barack Obama did not vote to raise taxes. The vote she's referring to, John McCain voted the exact same way."
THE FACTS: The vote was on a nonbinding budget resolution that assumed that President Bush's tax cuts would expire, as scheduled, in 2011. If that actually happened, it could mean higher taxes for people making as little as about $42,000. But Obama is proposing tax increases only on the wealthy, and would cut taxes for most others. In the March 14 budget resolution supported by Obama and Biden, McCain actually did not vote.
So you see... people take the word of who ever they support as the gospel.
How could MAC have voted for the same as Biden stated, when he didn't vote at all. That's my point.
BTW... I'm not a Sarah Palin supporter....
As a side note, not sure if your name reflects Lynn Swann,-88 if so.. I tip my hat... he was one of the best.
Hope the best for you.
This is how I choose my leaders. I base my decision on their own words and their actions...their respect or lack of respect for their fellow man. Rules are put in place for those who do not "freely and willingly" respect others...no matter what their position. In the military: Rules are put in place to protect everyone...not just from each other...but from the enemy. That is a lesson that John MCCain has not learned. Tonight Sarah Palin made it very clear that she is cut from the same cloth. As stated before: Bush and Cheney are of the exact same mindset.
Please Note: You really need to PROOF-READ your comments. "You keep proven it here" does not makeany sense. "If you base your decision on what people say, then you really do need to spend some time looking at the facts.": Really??? That does not make any sense. When Sarah Palin or John MCCain makes a speech; should I/We - NOT - make a decision about them - based upon what they say??? Should all of us completely ignore: What they say....based upon your comment??? Get the point? It is quite obvious that you have a problem with basic logic; and you have great difficulty communicating.
Your party...the Republican Party...is both Imploding and Exploding all at the same time. Your leaders...who are running for re-election...and some that are new to the game: DO NOT WANT THE WORD "REPUBLICAN" ON THEIR SIGNS...OR THEIR ADVERTISEMENT. It seems to me that it would be a better use of your time to focus on ALL of your leaders who are outraged at John MCCain for: Picking Sarah Palin...and for his Train Wreck of a Campaign. Let us not forget the mess that George Bush and Dick Cheney have made of this country. The world is hoping that WE do not elect another Republican...especially...John MCCain and Sarah Palin. Embarrassing: is only one small word; that only begins to define this duo.
Instead of trying to BULLY me and others...on this site: Take your need for giving orders - to your party - and tell your party members and leaders how to REPAIR the Republican GOP. Once you fix your party...you can come back and talk to us.
FINALLY: That is all that I have to say to you. As I suspected: You talk in circles...That is why - it would be a waste of my time to debate with you. I have spent enough time with you. GOODBYE!
We really don't like Palin! I think we were on the road to impeaching (well, at least investigating, to be fair) her when the mccain camp stepped in and held hostage the investigation - as I'm sure you well know, his lawyers (and hers) advised all 7 people who were served a supoena to disregard them, and the law that hold them to it. She is a real piece of work. I don't like being in fear that she could run the country, but having all of this riped open does expose the corruption - much to the dismay of the taxpayer. This isn't how Alaskan's treat each other. We need one another to survive. I find it all very sad.
Well, thanks for paying attention, and trying to keep America informed of who this poser is. Sarah is only out for Sarah...
Laura
Take Care of Yourself. (I need to go to bed.)
Peace, and sleep well,
Laura
also check out the celtic diva's blue oasis!! Very informative!!
Laura
seriously, i had my pad and pencil ready to write down the points as the moderator asked...i was GRAVELY disappointed to come away with a fairly blank sheet from Palin -the only fact/action i got was a $5000 healthcare tax credit (but i didn't feel confident that i would even qualify for it?) if she can't articulate these basic FACTS, that she should know like her own name, how can i possibly have ANY confidence in her?
Prior to joining ABC News, he was a senior political campaign adviser to Clinton and later became his communications director.
Could there be anyone more far left?? I about fell off my chair when he said Biden won (which should NOT have surprised me).
Let's look at George's scorecard for the debate:
Strategy: Biden A, Palin A-
Style: Biden A-, Palin A
Accuracy: Biden B, Palin B
I'm a math teacher, and the numbers just aren't adding up, Mr. Stephanopoulos.
If I had 2 students with these grades, the report cards would be even. How in the world did Biden get a "win"???
Apparently the liberal media uses different calculators than teachers do.
Personally, I think Sarah won, but that's aside. It was NO LESS than a tie.
And if a flaming liberal gives EQUAL overall scores to Biden and Palin, there's only one thing to conclude: Sarah won.
We'll also see that CNN "suggests" that Biden won. Read on.
They say 51% of voters said Biden did better, BUT they say their survey is not a measurement of the views of all Americans, since only people who watched the debate were questioned. More Democrats than Republicans watch the debates (they said so last "poll", and there were well-organized Obama Debate Watch "parties" all over the country). What does it say if more Democrats than Republicans were surveyed, and only 51% of those surveyed said Biden did better? Sad.
Palin was eloquent, confident, strong and enthusiastic (and all this after a week of incessant attacks by the liberal media). She addressed the people of this country throughout the debate by looking at us. (Biden addressed the moderator). When she spoke to Biden, she faced him. Interestingly, those were repeatedly touted as Obama's strengths last week, but barely mentioned when Sarah did the same this evening.
Still, tomorrow morning we'll see newspapers selectively quoting George and CNN to "prove" Biden won. Fortunately, some will have enough intelligence to see through all that (newspapers, after all, are a big part of the liberal media). UNFORTUNATELY, some will be naive enough to believe that if something is in print, or said on TV, it must be true. Again, sad. We need divine intervention. Oh, wait, we must be careful, since Obama said "this is no longer a Christian nation".
So, did you enjoy the debate? Where you able to quote Sarah Palin's "talking points" as she used them to substitute for answering the questions? I did. I was amazed at how well I had memorized them. Given the fact that she has repeated them as much as John MCCain has told his POW story...We should all know her entire key phrases from her stump speeches.
How about you - "chicagofinest"? Do you have them memorized?
I've always been a democrat, however I HAD a lot of respect for McCain (2000). But, now I can't stomach is lies and hypocrisy.
Going to volunteer at headquarters in the morning - going to bed now. I will look for you tomorrow. I enjoyed our conversation.
I wasn't impressed with Palin. She talked about what she knew about and stayed away from things she didn't know. The reason she had trouble in the interviews, is because she was asked about subjects she didn't know anything about. The corny smile and folksy lingo was nauseating.
We are in a 700 billion dollar hole and she was out there smiling and winking?
She came across as a caricature of herself. It didn't feel authentic. You'd have to ice water running through your veins to not show some kind of compassion to another human being, who is overcome with grie Here's a woman who basically said I'm not going to answer the moderators questions the way "she'd" like me to answer them. Which means she doesn't play by the rules. That's why there's troopergate. Then she says she wants to expand the VP powers. HELL NO!
It's not always about the shinny fast car. It's about the reliable, dependable, mini Van that will get you from point A to point B. Fast cars eventually crash and burn.
I have to respond because of your reference to "GOD" and what this "great country is founded from". I would refer you to OUR doctrine of Democracy - The United States Constitution- and 2 clauses that specify the SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE:
1) the establishment clause which prevents the government from establishing a national religion, providing tax money in support of religion, or otherwise favoring any single religion OR RELIGION IN GENERAL and
2) the free exercise clause, that ensures that private religious practices are not restricted by the government.
Together, they represent the "separation of church and state" -any direct connection between religious and governmental institutions and the protection of private religious freedom and autonomy.
To preserve Democracy, we MUST keep this ISSUE out of the WHITE HOUSE and in PEOPLE'S HOMES/RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES, where it belongs, regardless of your party affiliation.
I saw in an earlier post that you made a remark about Sarah having a hint of a Southern accent. Wrong! I have lived in the South all my life and no one sounds like Sarah unless they moved here from the midwest. Tell me this. Why does Obama sound more and more Black the closer Election Day gets?
I have defended the people of your beautiful state to a lot of those who attack Sarah because she hasn't been mayor or governor of a highly populated city or state. Folks like you who have their own liberal agenda will not spoil my favorable view of your state.
I have a strong feeling you will get your wish, you won't have Sarah for governor much longer.
But - She is totally incapable of giving a specific example of anything. This is why when asked a simple question like what media do you read, she could not give a simple example. She is the master of the generality.