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Also, your comment about illegal immigrants (key word: illegal) portrays the entire illegal immigration problem as all negative for the people who break the sovreign laws of our country, while faulting we who are anti-illegal immigration . Number one: they are breaking a federal law just by crossing the border. If you decided to illegally cross Canada's border, would you expect them to give you all the rights and privileges they have as a Canadian citizen? I doubt that you'd be so presumtuous. Most of the illegal immigrants in this country know that they will get a free education for their kids, and free medical care. I worked for Louisiana Medicaid, and almost every minority, including illegal immigrants, get free, timely, top-notch health care. If an illegal immigrant is pregrant and goes to the doctor. that doctor has to accept her as a patient, provide her with the quality prenatal care he gives all of his other patients, must deliver the baby and provide care for the baby for several months. All of this medical is paid for it by...you guessed it: our tax dollars. Medicaid is fully aware of the fact that many pregnant Mexican women wait until they are close to delivery, then make it across the border in time to have American taxes pay for medical care, delivery, follow-up care, then a few years later, we will start educating the child in our schools. At this time, both California and Massachusetts are on the edge of bankruptcy, due IN LARGE PART to the huge debt they have incurred trying to provide healthcare and education to the huge number of people who have very little intention of becoming citizens. Most people, liberal or conservative, realize this country was built by immigrants. But the thousands of immigrants who helped build this country came legally, immersed themselves in the country, the language and the culture. You cannot make a valid argument for amnesty today by pointing at the decades-long legal immigration history in this country. And when you call conservatives stupid, childish, racist, "teabaggers", kooks, on and on..it only results in YOUR being perceived as the very thing you profess to hate.
Get a clue!
God Bless America.
A. There were people from groups other than the republican party at these rallies. There were republicans, conservatives, libertarians, and even some democrats angered that the government is preparing to spend billions that we do not have.
B. If Republicans were to behave in a way that was not crazy, what would they be doing? What do you want the minority party to do when the Anointed one is in office? Please tell me how to behave so noone on the left thinks I am crazy.
C. You guys on the left do not have the resolve to do what it would take to eliminate conservatives from the political landscape. Your best bet is to flood the country with immigrants from various 'victim' groups and give them voting rights so that you crooks never lose another election.
But, of course, there is nothing at all wrong with the trillions that Bush stole, embezzled, wasted and blew on a criminal, unnessasary war. To say nothing about the millions of innocent human beings that Bush murdered because he is so bigoted as to think that Muslims and Arabs don't deserve to live or the thousand plus who died in New Orleans because Bush is also bigoted against Blacks.
Yes, Obama is spending a lot of money to fix the damage that Bush caused, vastly more money lost by Bush. Obama is at least a responsible, intelligent adult as opposed the bratty, spoiled, greedy, stupid, impetuous child that preceded him. Obama's repairs will cost us a tremendous amount, but that is petty compared to compounding the damage as conservatives and Republicans are advocating.
As for your complaint about immigrants, this nation has always been a nation of immigrants and every step of the way, the right has demonstrated bigotry, hatred and ostracism for anyone who was different. Yet, regardless, those immigrants worked hard, and contributed to the growth of this nation and, when allowed, they became good American citizens. The complaint that immigrants come to this nation to take advantage of our system, or to be criminals is bunk. They come because they believe that their hard work will be rewarded and they can have a good life which would be impossible in their home country where there are very few opportunities to advance.
"Because he is!"
Ah... God loves all his idiots the same.
They cant have this, the poor or those feeling that they have their way of life threatened will get illogical it will spin out of control and someone will attempt to kill obama this is true it is easy to prove how fundamentals who are losing control and not lead can easily spin so out of control that they act illogically and do violence. Make no mistake this was in no way a protest over tax's, if it was they they would stop paying it, and they would organize locally through city councils to get rid of some, this was a zealots r us party, it reminded me greatly of the fred phelps "protest". Intstead of offering a answer to the problem it is easier to lash out and bitch, and do everything to not bring up when bush was in charge. we are talking about people that mainly believe the earth is 6000 years old you cannot argue with them it doesnt work they want control and that is it.
You FUCKING demonizing intolerant scum.
And I'm an Atheist.
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These are the people that Napolitano is worried about!
Where were they during Bush's 8 years of spend-spend-spend? At least Obama is giving the PEOPLE something from his spending. Bush gave it all to contractors!
Why are the Tea Party people getting SO much attention for crowds of 500-1000 people? There were anti-war protests with hundreds of thousands regularly!!
http://jezebel.com/5213242/tea+bagging-dick-arm...
Secret Service will need to employ tens of thousands to cope with all this rageaholism (now armed to the teeth).
wow... can't argue with THAT logic.
/snark
The Republicans are all set to try this "white is black" technique. And this is the way it will work. First of all, they will try to make people believe that everything the Government has done for the country is socialism. They will go to the people and say: "Did you see that social security check you received the other day—you thought that was good for you, didn't you? That's just too bad! That's nothing in the world but socialism. Did you see that new flood control dam the Government is building over there for the protection of your property? Sorry—that's awful socialism! That new hospital that they are building is socialism. Price supports, more socialism for the farmers! Minimum wage laws? Socialism for labor! Socialism is bad for you, my friend. Everybody knows that. And here you are, with your new car, and your home, and better opportunities for the kids, and a television set—you are just surrounded by socialism!"
Now the Republicans say, "That's a terrible thing, my friend, and the only way out of this sinkhole of socialism is to vote for the Republican ticket."
all the efforts of all the Republican politicians can't convince the people that this is socialism.
The next part of this "white is black" campaign is to try to make people believe that the Democratic Party is in favor of communism. That is an even tougher job than selling the socialism nonsense, but the Republicans are desperate, so they are going to try it.
measures against communism.
I say to you in all seriousness, beware of those who pretend to be so violently anti-Communist in this country...
Here is the reason. To me, morality in government means more than a mere absence of wrongdoing. It means a government that is fair to all. I think it is just as immoral for the Congress to enact special tax favors into law as it is for a tax official to connive in a crooked tax return. It is just as immoral to use the lawmaking power of: the Government to enrich the few at the expense of the many, as it is to steal money from the public treasury. That is stealing money from the public treasury.
All of us know, of course, about the scandals and corruption of the Republican officeholders in the 1920's. But to my mind the Veterans' Administration scandals, in those days, and the Teapot Dome steal, were no worse—no more immoral—than the tax laws of Andrew Mellon, or the attempt to sell Muscle Shoals to private owners. Legislation that favored the greed of monopoly and the trickery of Wall Street was a form of corruption that did the country four times as much harm as Teapot Dome ever did.
Private selfish interests are always trying to corrupt the Government in this way. Powerful financial groups are always trying to get favors for themselves.
Now, the Democratic administration has been fighting against these efforts to corrupt the powers of Government. We haven't always won, but we have never surrendered, and we never will.
GIVE 'EM HELL, HARRY!!!
They just regurgitate what Rush tells them to. They know that socialist = bad, and communist = the worst.
Conservatives wouldn't know what those things were if they took a shit on the collective wingnut head.
Republicans adhere to a set of policies that promote Freedom.
Now please go ask the nearest rational human being near you. (It may take while to find one in your neck of the woods). What is the opposite of Communism? Is it equality or is it freedom?
No, only freedom if you follow their narrow christotyrannical view of the world.
If you're outside of that, you are other. YOu must be destroyed, sidelined, and oppressed.
Freedom. Give me a break.
I wish MSNBC would hire her away.
DEFINE THEM.
P.S. I think the people at these rallies have misplaced their ire. It's not the job of some news barbie doll to tell me how to view them.
vs.
being upset with a president because you are paying taxes that were set up by the former president.
and where, exactly, were you when Bush and Co. were actively destroying the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?
Huh?
Oh... and extra lols at how you completely avoided the fact that the tax structure that is set up is the same exact one that none of you or these teabagging morons had a problem with under Bushco.
Funny that, huh?
And, extra points to you for pulling the age old tried and true conservative canard of "you must be a child" with your "I don't know how old you are, but..."
Weak.
Comparing Bush to Hitler?
Well, considering the family connections, it's not that insane, look up good old Preston trading with the enemy and working for the Nazis while we were at war for starters...
However, Bushco. was much more in line with Mussolini, giving away the country to the corporations, etc.
Under Bushco. we saw unprecedented and unparalleled growth of the government.
We saw the same as far as intrusion into our personal lives from the Bush admin.
The spying on our own citizens started well before 9/11, as just one example.
We had nonstop proclamations from boobs like Rove of the one party state - the endless crowing of the Permanent Republican Majority... were you asleep during that whole stint?
Funny how you didn't seem that concerned back then.
Your concern now is laughable at best.
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"ESPECIALLY AFTER MY GRANDFATHER FOUGHT AND SPENT 6 MONTHS IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP DURING WWII."
so he was part of the jewish underground in Warsaw? That's odd.
no GIs were held in concentration camps. with a degree in economics you should know were the debt came from: Reagan and Bush. They are responsible for almost all the debt.
These people are wacked.
"The next industrial revolution is going to be led by hybrid cars, and that needs copper. You can see the subtle way that China is moving into 30 or 40 countries with resources," he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambr...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/world/16china...
The bumped sculpture of Thomas Starr King will be shipped to Sacramento for display in the state Capitol.
A 7-foot-tall likeness of the 40th president will replace Civil War era orator Thomas Starr King as one of California's two representatives in the Capitol's Statuary Hall.
After 78 years of standing in the Capitol, Thomas Starr King is about to be ousted by a better known Californian -- Ronald Reagan.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washing...
Wonder whose stupid idea this was.....
ok, so when they're asked to display those razor sharp reasoning powers you so proudly are spinning...
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"Sir, why is Obama a fascist?"
"Because he is!"
'he's a fascist because he's a fascist'
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amazing, simply amazing just how quicky those teabaggers broke down that complex definition into simple terms even a 5th grader could understand.
oh wait...
"We get to make up our own mind..."
so you admit you foxsnoozers share one mind! that explains so much. both in capacity and in intent.
None.
What a moron. Does she realize the state of Lincoln will have to pay about $120B in future taxes to pay for this $50B.
Who taught this woman math?
you're less than "grand" old party......NOW.
Who taught you economics? Bert & Ernie on Sesame Street?
Obama is a fascist rather than a socialist because socialist seek to own & control the means of production. Obama wants to control General Motors WITHOUT owning it. That IS fascism you dork!
Main article: Fascist (epithet)
Following World War II, the word fascist has become a slur throughout the political spectrum. In contemporary political discourse, some adherents of political ideologies on both the left and right wings of the political spectrum associate fascism with their political enemies, or define it as the opposite of their own views. Some argue that the term fascist has become hopelessly vague over the years and that it is now little more than a pejorative epithet. George Orwell wrote in 1944:
The word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else... almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. – George Orwell, What is Fascism?. 1944".
Richard Griffiths argued in 2005 that the term fascism is the "most misused, and over-used word of our times".
Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Back in the 90s, they bitterly hated Clinton because he was a N----- lover. Imagine how vastly much more they hate Obama.
If you're angry because of the Bush spending, your little tea party is too late. Where were you when Bush spent us into the poor house on a war with no return value?
You have no validity.
Why don't you start caring about our country instead of being obsessed with hating Republicans?
But seriously you don't believe it is socialism and you ARE WRONG. Young people in germany believed Hitler would rescue them from their problems. They were wrong. I am less interested in what you and 66% of americans believe to be true. Time will tell what the cost of moving from a society based on individual determinism, to a statist government.
What happened in Cuba though was they went from having nice houses, and a grwoing economy (though classes were significantly stratified) to a stagnant economy where they are still trying to keep cars from the 50s running, and anyone with the means to do so sneaks over to Florida for helth care (in spite of the universal health care established by Castro)
I don't care what you believe. I care what is!
But then most liberals are mental.
concervitive americans might be slower to reach the point of enough is enough...... But we've arrived.......be afraid libs..
We are educated, we understand our constitutional rights and we are showing the world how you are nothing but bratty children who like to try to bully.
By the way, if you're going to be one..spell it right...its C-O-N-S-E-R-V-A-T-I-V-E......
Get ready to add another disappointment to the growing list of campaign promises that turn out to be lies. If you truly believe Barry Obummer can accomplish his political agenda AND cut taxes to 95% of Americans, then you deserve to be lied to. Nobody is living in a fox cocoon. (especially if there are posting on a political blog on the internet) it is simply a matter of looking at the numbers and figuring out where they are going to come from. Either we are going to borrow from other nations (called debt that passes down to future generations) or we will print more money (called inflation makes the $4 gas we were buying last summer look cheap) or we raise taxes on everyone. Hey if I believed Obama could do what he said he would do I would have voted for the guy, but the older I get the cost of naivete seems higher and higher.
This is not a FOX thing it is an economics thing. YOu either get it or you don't.
Yeah, I get it. We just had eight years of the worst administration ever, greedy, criminal,incompetent, bigoted, hateful, lying, Constitution trampling, defecating on the Bill of Bights, violating our laws, stealing trillions of dollars while making the rest of the world hate America and you think that Obama is worse that Bush. Sigh! Obama is, at least, an intelligent, articulate, capable, adult leader who knows how to be a president. Bush was about as capable of leadership as a very bratty 4 year old. The only thing that saved us from Bush was he was too incompetent even to succeed in his primary objective, to become a depot, dictator and ruler for life.
Obama's objective is to restore us to the greatness we enjoyed prior to the dimbutt-in-chief.
I get it. You hate Obama because he is Black and you are a racist. Grow up!
And you wonder why we call the media liberal... I think this clip shows it all.
I'm teaching my 6-year old that because little Suzy does something wrong, it is not an excuse to do something wrong herself.
By your argument, since some on the left made inappropriate connections and references to the former president, then it's perfectly ok to do it back. Which, of course, fits perfectly with right-wing methodology.
I didn't like Bush. He was wrong-headed and worked to pull as much power to the presidency as he could, making it resemble a fledgling monarchy than an elected representative of the people. I disagreed with nearly all of his major policy decisions.
But I didn't call him a fascist, I didn't compare him to Hitler or Mussolini, or any other heinous, infamous character in history. And when people did, I found it offensive.
And I find this just as offensive. Just as I found those individuals during the campaigns offensive, the ones who used racial epithets and violent speech to express their views against Obama.
These events are designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator. They try to incite the base emotions by using convenient catchphrases. They don't want dialog, they don't want informed discussion. They wat name-calling and insult.
So please, at least use the judgment that I'm trying to instill in my 6-year-old. Don't defend inane, juvenile, uninformed actions by saying "well they did it first!"
I don't like Obama. Hasn't got a thing to do with his race. I just don't like socialism -- and I refuse to pay for it.
If you think America has any kind of shot of being a socialist nation -- yeah, pal, you do live on another planet.
I am not paying taxes for the freedom robbing programs and groups supported by the radical prez.
Susan Roesgen's behavior was unprofessional, and her comment about Fox news was fallacious. She seems offended that there would be a group of people who dare not agree with her point of view which was apparently that the state of Illinois was due to haul in some serious green over the stimulus racket (and who the hell cares where the green comes from) She wants the Plebes to just smile and get all weepy eyed that President Obummer and the rest of the beltway Pirates are going to shell out a share of the plunder.
Look the attack on Fox News as being Right wing is a little weak, primarily because it exposes that CNN is therefore on the opposite end of the spectrum (yeah I know duh!)
Now it all comes down to spin, You want to call anyone who thinks that spending trillions we don't have as an extremist. Why do I have to be an extremist for taking such a logical position. Please quit defining anyone that does not fall into your narrow political perspective as an extremist. I disagree with you. I am not violent. I did vote for George Bush. I am not 100% satisfied with the job he did. I did vote for John McCain, and I guarantee there would be a helluva lot of things he would have done that I would despise.
Get over yourself. An extremist is someone who supports violence as a political process. An extremist is someone who tries to tear down the status quo regardless of the outcome. Extremists are NOT the people that were gathered at protests today saying that the governemnt shouldn't spend money we don't have. Grow up broaden your horizons and practice some of the liberal open-mindedness, tolerance, and acceptance that you guys are supposed to be so good at. You guys are starting to sound paranoid like Hitler in his rants about 'international jewery' (Its all GOP fundamentalist zealots this time around)
http://newsbusters.org/node/3586
Pray with me.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/15/720...
That is why we are fighting agaist you and the socialist!
CNN sure showed their true colors with THAT liberal loon's interview.
NOBAMA!
If you were serious about this subject you would investigate this and not just watch some faux horror movie put together by a failed politician who knows next to nothing about it. Much of what he claims as fact has shown to be incorrect, or taken out of context. His facts are often not really facts. I suggest you go back and read news clipping from the early part of the 19th century and you will be shocked to read about how the ice on the north pole was melting away back then to its thinnest level ever.....oh how shocking! Your lack of intellectual honesty on this issue is typical of most liberals. This issue is really just about power and control. The desire of the govt to seize more control and power where it has no right to do so. Do some more reading and get educated or stay a stupid liberal......
"Conservatives are educated....(the rush show has the highest level of college degree listeners of any commercial media program)."
Then tell me sir...why couldn't Mr. "obama is a facist" define his terms?
And oh..teleprompter...ok...I'm sorry Bush lowered your expectations of how a speech should sound like.
governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Hmmm don't see that in this administration...i don't see him saying any teabaggers were anti-american unlike you know..the last guy who said anyone not supporting the war was. But I haven'
t been teabagged till my brains fell out.
you dont want regulations on people who caused this current crisis because they've done so well with deregulation? LOL ok.
Where's the diversity in these tea parties? It appears like it could be a KKK rally.
Are you noticing that all the comments being left are the opposite of what you're saying? If you do a google on this "reporter" you'll find that the majority of the comments being left all point out how she was not reporting and that she should be fired. But, I guess you, like her, feel that the American people don't have a right to their opinions.
Only if he were bashing Bush would he have been given a chance to talk.
No wonder Fox is kicking CNN in the ass with lousy left wing radical reporters like her.
Then she went off to the next guy with a baby and started to provoke saying "Well you are getting back $400 dollars" ?!!@#!? $400 dollars was that repoters cliam, she did not include how property taxes, food prices going up, and so on.
then she countinues to harasses the liberty comment guy trying to rough himn up saying "What's that got to do with taxes" then as he speaks and starts to make sense, She cuts him off, then walks off calling every person an anti-family act and brings fox news into it.
And that is not a problem, LOOK at all cnn reports in the past saying BUSH is facist?!?! not that I like Bush 100%, it is the point that CNN board backs her, yet they are the only ones allow to bash presidents they dont like, and the general public who does not have their beliefs is cut off and called right wing beliefs???
This is just what I have seen, CNN can dish it out but can not swollow the fact the Americans have beliefs different then theirs.
SO LETS THAT IT TO THIS LEVEL FROM OBAMA
"Every American will be heard!" yet CNN cuts them off.
SO sad CNN is filter the voice of the countrys opinions either be good, bad, nasty or nice!
Now I heard CNN to the twitter over? is that true? they are not into journalism, they want to be able to brain wash the public by throughing out only their view points at the young public with propoganda points of view.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Obama IS a fascist -- he's trying to take over every major private industry, he's stealing money to, by his own admission, "spread around" to groups he deems more worthy, he wants to install his citizen army of Brown Shirts, he's issuing phony official government reports calling those who oppose his radical agenda "dangerous extremists," he's stealing the census from the commerce department to help consolidate his power, and he's going to shut down his opposition on talk radio the first chance he gets.
Seig Heil!
I voted for Barrack Obama and support him as our president, but I don't agree with all of his policies which is my right.
The Tea Parties yesterday were not about taxes but about a US government (Congress) that is totally out of control. I blame Republicans and Democrats for where we are today and the debt our kids will be saddled with. The only way that the debt will able to come down is to raise taxes on all of us, that will happen soon.
In regards to Susan Roesgen she is a commentator not a reporter. A reporter is someone that just reports the facts and lets the viewer decide. She obviously had made up her mind what the Tea Party was about and really was totally clueless and it shows. CNN need to identify her as such.
Most of the comments being made on this board are being made by the same simpleton using different names.
Stop responding. You are wasting your time.
If you keep speaking truth to idiocy, he/she or both is going to have a stroke.
For the sake of this idiot/moron quit responding.
I dont know who the he** you think you are but i have not read so much Bull droppings in a while. Yes I can understand outrage about going to what you think was an unlawfull war but when you can't do anything but impune the former Pres. and blame him for the current mess remeber his administration warned congress about the lending mess in 2001 and the Congress did NOTHING so your beloved Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, and any other obstructionist who did not want to fix anything so the hated administration could be blamed. So it would give them the chance to grab POWER. You don't even want to get me started on New Orleans. Yey lets blaime Bush for the fact the the City is below sea level and they DID NOT have an evacuation plan and they knew that the levies would not hold after huricane Andrew and they did nothing. Now lets talk about the Prince among men Mayor Nagin who after the blaim game made the infamous comment about rebuilding a "chocolate New Orleans" NOW who is the Racist. So in conclusion there is enough Blaim to go around on all of Goverment not just one party. So vote for the person and NOT the Party and our Great Nation will see its way through any and all hard times.
Thousands died in New Orleans? What? You're a liar. If you choose to embrace your crap thats fine...... but most of us know the truth and at least derive our ideas from the facts and not BS lies that you've chosen to waller in.
Grow up.
With the smashing success of CNN and MSNBC's running "teabagging" jokes, it's a great shame they didn't think of "tossing the salad" for the illegal alien fieldworker protests.
Remember when CNN used to use the voice of James Earl Jones saying, "This is CNN," to project gravitas? How's that gravitas working out for you now?