AMERICAblog: Colin Powell is going to fire back at Cheney, LImbaugh
RitornaVincitor
· 6 months ago
I have a lot of respect for Colin Powell, yet his credibility was used by the Bush administration to sell the lies that got us into Iraq. I can't believe that Powell knew the reports were false, so I see him as a tragic figure. Nevertheless I can't be very sympathetic considering what happened as a result. So I'll just sit back and content myself with watching the GOP feast upon itself now. I do hope their civil war continues right through the elections next year. Couldn't happen to a nicer party.
JustAGuy
· 6 months ago
Colin Powell's tragic flaw was that he mistook being a "Good Soldier" for being a good Secretary of State.
He was well-positioned to influence the decision making in the White House and he didn't. In stead he just kept his mouth shut and let Cheney render him irrelevant.
Had he immediately resigned when he realized he'd been made a fool of on the floor of the UN, he would have at least retained some honor and credibility.
Now he's relegated to the political sidelines, being schooled by a corpulent, drug-addicted radio host and a psychotic, addlepated Torquemada.
What a tragic fall.
-S
UncleBucky
· 6 months ago
Well, after I understood that he intentionally lied, and having looked at his face in various conversations, and considered the environment in the White House...
I think he was afraid for his life of that of his wife.
And when they DID it to Wilson and Plame, I think that is when Powell decided to leave the administration and shut up for the duration.
Wait. There could be some very interesting information coming out. Unless Cheney has already put a horse's head in Powell's house somewheres.
I must say, this scenario seems more than likely.
Ugh.
Mack
· 6 months ago
Wilson and Plame lied to Congress. His memos when he came back verified that Iraq had sought yellowcake in Niger, but he denied it. She recommended him for the job but denied it. Who did anything to them? They should be on trial for lying to Congress.
UncleBucky
· 6 months ago
Cite your assertions.
Ugh.
mtiffany
· 6 months ago
Cite his assertions? What? And be beholden to facts? What kind of socialist atheist tree-hugging terrorist-loving black gay pedophile America-hater are you?
Joneses
· 6 months ago
I'm so sick and tired of the race card bullshit. He picked Obama because he felt Obama was qualified and would take the country into a better future.
vkobaya
· 6 months ago
Yeah, but we know the real reason they hate Powell. Same reason they hate Steele. Both of them are "Negros," except they don't use that polite term. Steele is an ass if he thinks they won't kick him out of the party sooner or later. Cheney and Limbaugh know in their hearts that neither Powell, Steele or also Obama are anything but traitors to "their" America, that is the nation that is deep in their pocketbooks.
Rob Mule
· 6 months ago
Rethuglican vinegar is hoping to lure imagined hordes of bile-filled flies who have soured on sugar.
One might have imagined the 2008 campaign presented an alternate perspective for these ill-favored Masters of the Puniverse...
mtiffany
· 6 months ago
I think it would be beneath Powell's dignity to respond to either Limbaugh or Cheney. They are simply not worthy of response, and the people that follow Cheney and Limbaugh are not open to anything Powell could say. He is, after all, black.
tertam
· 6 months ago
Oh so not fare MTiffany. That is a large judgment you place on people in general. Regardless of whom one follows in the political realm or not. And I am sure it has nothing to do with black, brown, purple or pink. Not until our politicians learn to play in the sandbox together will our country see true reform on anything. They are often worse than little kids with no manners.
tlsintx
· 6 months ago
have you listened to rush limbaugh?
mtiffany
· 6 months ago
tertam probably has. If only to say "ditto!" I would guess.
tlsintx
· 6 months ago
mtiffany, you rock.
mtiffany
· 6 months ago
Please don't take this the wrong way, but... boo-fucking-hoo on your "so not fare[sic]" about my calling out Republicans for being bigots. They are.
What exactly do you think Republicans are implying when they talk about Nancy Pelosi and her "San Francisco values?" It's not the most overt gay-bashing I've heard, but it's homophobic nonetheless.
What exactly do you think Steve Douchebag, er, Doocy et al of Fox 'News' were implying when they kept referring to then-candidate Obama by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama? The only way they could have been more overt in their attempt to equate Obama with Muslims and terrorism would be to accuse him of secretly being a Muslim and therefore, by implication, a terrorist. Oh, wait a second! They did!
And let's not forget Sarah Palin never missing an opportunity to accuse Obama of being anti-American and "paling around with terrorists."
I could go on and on, as far back as you like, reaching back into the past: George Allen calling a young man of Indian descent "macaca," Dick Armey caught on tape calling Barney Frank "Barney Fag," etc. Name the minority group, and I'm sure you'll find the Republican party has used them as convenient scapegoats and painted them as somehow being a threat to "real America" and "real Americans."
Again, no offense, but please take your protestations about my being unfair to the specific group of Republicans who are of like mind with Cheney and Limbaugh and kindly blow them out your ass.
Rob Mule
· 6 months ago
Rush and Dick might want to consider a domestic Night of the Long Knives with emphasis on the Ernst Röhm treatment...
amazing. the shit is rising to the top of the GOP.
HereinDC
· 6 months ago
2 men who NEVER served a day in Military Service are dissing General Colin Powell.
Hope General Powell makes that one of his talking points.
Indigo
· 6 months ago
General Powell could easily lead the Republican Party of Eisenhower. He doesn't fit the mod of the freshly minted National Socialist Republican Party in America that Cheney and Rush and the disgraced Bush administration riff-raff are working to set up.
UncleBucky
· 6 months ago
With a good tour of the country, Powell could easily lead true conservatives BACK to the GOP of Eisenhower, or perhaps even back to the Republican Party of Lincoln.
Cheeny, Limpboy, Palin, Joe the Plumber are not and never were members of the same party as that of Lincoln or Eisenhower. They are fascists who see as their goal the subverting of the US Constitution and its replacement with something a little easier.
Bush: "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." — Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
Ugh.
Indigo
· 6 months ago
I can see that but I doubt there enough cloth coat Republicans left to go for it.
Scottsdalian
· 6 months ago
As a former admirerer of Powell - a HUGE admirerer - I will not accept Powell as a good & decent man again until he fully explains why he said the shit he said at the UN. He owes America and the world a clear and complete explanation for his blatant lies to the world on behalf of America.
Until he mans up on that...he's just another repug POS.
Too bad a formerly good & proud military man has been emasculated like this, but he allowed his own emasculation and he alone possesses the ability to clear his formerly good name.
Not good enough to wage war, not good enough to justify thousands of dead American soldiers, many thousands more of injured American soldiers...and not nearly good enough for the destruction of untold thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens and their country.
Nope...Powell has a LONG way to go in order to clear his name.
If that's even possible.
UncleBucky
· 6 months ago
What are the chances that Powell was forced to say that, under pain of... well, of what, d'ya think, huh?
Ugh.
theo
· 6 months ago
I wouldn't expect much from Powell. Lawrence Wilkerson has been out fighting his battles for the past few years with nary a peep from Powell, either to confirm or deny what Wilkerson has been saying.
Scottsdalian
· 6 months ago
with nary a peep from Powell
You noticed that too? Powell's silence has been deafening.
Sure has let his underling take lots of bullets for him, tho.
I'm good with Wilkerson...at least he has been talking. Albeit without support from the guy he's trying most to defend.
whomod
· 6 months ago
Cue up the "Rocky" music and find that guy from Superman II who exclaimed, "this is gonna be good".
Hopefully Powell will denounce Limbaugh and Cheney as he heads out the door. And hopefully Powell will call the liar, a liar on national TV as his aide Lawrence Wilkerson has been doing this week.
I don't think Wilkerson speaks without the approval of Powell, so I think on account of Cheney lying day after day, Powell himself is ready to step up.
Chris
· 6 months ago
I think he's going to quit the republican party. That would be a perfect end cap to the recent Specter-Huntsman and now Powell.
downindixie
· 6 months ago
Oh! Wouldn't it be nice if Powell has a few documents he has been holding for this occassion.
Mack
· 6 months ago
Actually, they didn't kick Powell out, he abandoned the GOP when he put race ahead of qualifications or principle and endorsed the wholly inadequate Obama last fall.
Willie
· 6 months ago
yawn...
UncleBucky
· 6 months ago
So you are saying this and hence it is so.
What difference is there between your contribution and a spitwad on a classroom wall?
Ugh.
RainbowPhoenix
· 6 months ago
A spitwad wastes fewer resources.
UncleBucky
· 6 months ago
A spitwad stays on the wall longer than Mack stays coherent.
Ugh.
UncleBucky
· 6 months ago
Ya know, folks, for different reasons of course, Powell is as much as a tragedy as was Nixon.
He let something happen that he had the power to stop, at the risk of his life.
But he didn't. This is a tragic play, song or movie.
Ugh.
Mockrin2
· 6 months ago
POWELL IS JUST AS GUILTY AS CHENEY AND HIS SOCK PUPPET, GWB, FOR STARTING AN ILLEGAL WAR. HE IS GUILTY OF PRE-MEDITATED MASS MURDER IN IRAQ AND SHOULD BE IN JAIL. I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR HIM.
threadmonitor
· 6 months ago
Welcome, Mockrin2,
ALL CAPS are considered to be screaming, they are hard to read, and we prefer that you not use them.
Pug
· 6 months ago
Colin Powell wil be a terrific addition to the "Democrat" Party. I'm sure he'll be welcomed warmly in spite of his allowing himself to be duped by Dick Cheney in the run-up to the Iraq War. At least the man appears to have a conscience.
The Republicans can keep Cheney, Malkin, Hannity, Limbaugh, et al. The Democrats will happily accept Colin Powell.
steven
· 6 months ago
of course, because he is a democrat. he isn't a republican. he left the party a while ago. i feel sorry for him. i'm a conservative and unlike dem's like to say, were not evil people. as a matter of fact, we don't necessarily disagree on all social issues. the biggest divide is democrats association with anti-capitalism. i believe i can spend my money better than a politician. but people like pelosi who is held so high in your party do incredible damage to free-market capitalism and the overall american way of life. every liberal i have met believes they as so intelligent and progressive, but it is actually quite the opposite. liberal leaders don't learn from history, and that is socialist, government-dominant systems do not, and never will work. so who are the idiots her? call me what you will, but in no conversation i have ever had with a liberal has there argument ever held water. they just do the usual; get defensive, blame republicans, or ignore the truth. further dividing the parties and pushing away compromise toward a common good.
tmaxPA
· 6 months ago
Endorsing the other party's candidate is a pretty extreme move. But it isn't like he went to the convention or endorsed him in person. Dems don't say you're evil people; they say you are stupid people, because you follow evil people. As far as I can tell, it was the conservatives that did incredible damage to the free-market system, and the Democrats (along with every other non-stupid American) are trying to get it working again. You claim liberals don't learn from history, but you don't learn from your own experience: we aren't implementing a socialist, government-dominant system! If anything, we're trying too hard to save the current capitalist financial system. The most left-wing Democrat you will find only wants to replace it with a better CAPITALIST FINANCIAL SYSTEM. We aren't against investment; we're just against getting ripped off by evil people supported by stupid people. Any more.
Kindly stop being one of the stupid people. The problem with conservatives isn't (and hasn't ever been) what they stand for. It is what they claim the other side stands for that is the problem. Because they're lying, so how on earth can we take them seriously?
cole3244
· 6 months ago
it would be nice to see those in the gop become americans, but i guess that would be asking too much for a class challenged party and its members.
All Comments
He was well-positioned to influence the decision making in the White House and he didn't. In stead he just kept his mouth shut and let Cheney render him irrelevant.
Had he immediately resigned when he realized he'd been made a fool of on the floor of the UN, he would have at least retained some honor and credibility.
Now he's relegated to the political sidelines, being schooled by a corpulent, drug-addicted radio host and a psychotic, addlepated Torquemada.
What a tragic fall.
-S
I think he was afraid for his life of that of his wife.
And when they DID it to Wilson and Plame, I think that is when Powell decided to leave the administration and shut up for the duration.
Wait. There could be some very interesting information coming out. Unless Cheney has already put a horse's head in Powell's house somewheres.
I must say, this scenario seems more than likely.
Ugh.
Ugh.
One might have imagined the 2008 campaign presented an alternate perspective for these ill-favored Masters of the Puniverse...
What exactly do you think Republicans are implying when they talk about Nancy Pelosi and her "San Francisco values?" It's not the most overt gay-bashing I've heard, but it's homophobic nonetheless.
What exactly do you think Steve Douchebag, er, Doocy et al of Fox 'News' were implying when they kept referring to then-candidate Obama by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama? The only way they could have been more overt in their attempt to equate Obama with Muslims and terrorism would be to accuse him of secretly being a Muslim and therefore, by implication, a terrorist. Oh, wait a second! They did!
And let's not forget Sarah Palin never missing an opportunity to accuse Obama of being anti-American and "paling around with terrorists."
I could go on and on, as far back as you like, reaching back into the past: George Allen calling a young man of Indian descent "macaca," Dick Armey caught on tape calling Barney Frank "Barney Fag," etc. Name the minority group, and I'm sure you'll find the Republican party has used them as convenient scapegoats and painted them as somehow being a threat to "real America" and "real Americans."
Again, no offense, but please take your protestations about my being unfair to the specific group of Republicans who are of like mind with Cheney and Limbaugh and kindly blow them out your ass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_...
Hope General Powell makes that one of his talking points.
Cheeny, Limpboy, Palin, Joe the Plumber are not and never were members of the same party as that of Lincoln or Eisenhower. They are fascists who see as their goal the subverting of the US Constitution and its replacement with something a little easier.
Bush: "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
— Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
Ugh.
Until he mans up on that...he's just another repug POS.
Too bad a formerly good & proud military man has been emasculated like this, but he allowed his own emasculation and he alone possesses the ability to clear his formerly good name.
His explanation is NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Not good enough to wage war, not good enough to justify thousands of dead American soldiers, many thousands more of injured American soldiers...and not nearly good enough for the destruction of untold thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens and their country.
Nope...Powell has a LONG way to go in order to clear his name.
If that's even possible.
Ugh.
You noticed that too? Powell's silence has been deafening.
Sure has let his underling take lots of bullets for him, tho.
I'm good with Wilkerson...at least he has been talking. Albeit without support from the guy he's trying most to defend.
Hopefully Powell will denounce Limbaugh and Cheney as he heads out the door. And hopefully Powell will call the liar, a liar on national TV as his aide Lawrence Wilkerson has been doing this week.
I don't think Wilkerson speaks without the approval of Powell, so I think on account of Cheney lying day after day, Powell himself is ready to step up.
What difference is there between your contribution and a spitwad on a classroom wall?
Ugh.
Ugh.
He let something happen that he had the power to stop, at the risk of his life.
But he didn't. This is a tragic play, song or movie.
Ugh.
I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR HIM.
ALL CAPS are considered to be screaming, they are hard to read, and we prefer that you not use them.
I'm sure he'll be welcomed warmly in spite of his allowing himself to be duped by Dick Cheney in the run-up to the Iraq War. At least the man appears to have a conscience.
The Republicans can keep Cheney, Malkin, Hannity, Limbaugh, et al. The Democrats will happily accept Colin Powell.
Kindly stop being one of the stupid people. The problem with conservatives isn't (and hasn't ever been) what they stand for. It is what they claim the other side stands for that is the problem. Because they're lying, so how on earth can we take them seriously?