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AMERICAblog: Condi: We may look really bad now, but give us 30 years

  • tlsintx · 10 months ago
    what a stupid, false argument they're making-

    bushco didn't simply ignore popularity polls to do what they believed was right...

    they ignored every reasonable voice of opposition to do what they wanted...and everything they wanted was based on power and greed.
  • shanobama · 10 months ago
    FTW
  • katiec · 10 months ago
    I fail to see any major accomplishments by Bush/Rice these last eight years. We have even greater problems, unrest everywhere and nations near exploding. We have not been the good example for other countries we once were and
    lack credibility when talking peace, unification.
    The my way or the highway attitude has taken away the respect we once had.
  • jeffg166 · 10 months ago
    Worst Presnit EVER!
  • grandpajohn · 10 months ago
    Well at least they are consistent, they came in as lying incompetents boobs and leave the same way. Yes thirty years from now will give time to reveal the criminality of this administration as well and for them to think that time will absolve them is simply a continuation of the state of delusion they exist in.
  • foxy · 10 months ago
    What she's going for a face lift? Or she's redoing her face so no one could recognize her. Oh I get it... 30 years from now they will be worse? Or in jail ?
  • paulbe · 10 months ago
    Thirty years? We're scared to give America another 30 days. Who knows what will get screwed up next.
  • aarrgghh · 10 months ago
    if iraq emerges as a success story, it will have done so in spite of the bush administration's efforts, not because of them, and it will be eight years later than it would have taken without those efforts.
  • brb915 · 10 months ago
    A success in Iraq. That banner better be effing huge to hide the millions of unemployed, the Katrina cemetaries, the Geneva Convention violations.............................................and the 4000+ new headstones at Arlington
  • aarrgghh · 10 months ago
    it doesn't matter how effin huge any success in iraq might be. a rebuilt and prosperous iraq will never hide the crimes of katrina et al because it won't be our success to claim. all those lives were destroyed for nothing we can take credit for.
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 10 months ago
    she should settle down with a nice woman and raise a nice catholic family.
  • High Crimes & Misdemeanors · 10 months ago
    Sorry to disappoint you folks, but the bush record wont look any worse then it is now. Unless we get some accountability and begin a war crimes tribunal for these punks-ass MOFO's. Who cares what these criminals will be doing in 30 years, most if not all will be dead from this administration, or at least on their death beds. The complicity of this administration by the DEM leadership is being overlooked big time. Not a one is talking about it on the mainstream blogs. That's what history will be talking about. history will ask, who was the opposition party who got snookered into the whole 911/terrorist, terrorist, terrorist, meme?? Why bought the whole lie, hook, line and sinker? Who genuflected to the whim of the bush crime family?? I mean if you can't tell you are being lied to - what are you doing being a leader???
  • foxy · 10 months ago
    Indeed we need to petition for a war crimes tribunal for those asses. And I know of a nice place to send them to as well. It's going to be vacant soon. Lot's of neat sports and activities there as well...like water boarding.
  • Griffon · 10 months ago
    We are in the last throes of the Bush administration. It's almost over. It really is.

    Certainly, then, I missed the part where Pelosi and Reid and Conyers were leaving as well. It is far from over since the accomplices and enablers of the bush horror show are continuing in the legislature. We have a genuinely two-faced president-elect who has blatantly about-faced on several crucial issues, the latest being Iran (from Greenwald):

    Contrast Obama's flat declaration yesterday that Iran is "pursuing a nuclear weapon" with what he said on the same topic in December, 2007 when seeking the Democratic nomination:

    "By reporting that Iran halted its nuclear weapon development program four years ago because of international pressure, the new National Intelligence Estimate makes a compelling case for less saber-rattling and more direct diplomacy. The juxtaposition of this NIE with the president's suggestion of World War III serves as an important reminder of what we learned with the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq: members of Congress must carefully read the intelligence before giving the President any justification to use military force.

    Back then, Obama was touting as authoritative the NIE's finding that "Iran halted its nuclear weapon development program four years ago." Yesterday, with no explanation, he embraced the opposite of the NIE's finding and claimed that they were still pursuing nuclear weapons.

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/01/...

    We, I suspect, are stepping into a whole new towering edifice of Orwellian doublespeak and dismissal of pubic demand such as with Obama hinting at finding ways to include 'tainted' evidence gleaned from torture. The writing cannot be any more on the wall, and the last to clue in will be the collective disciples. At the risk of employing a comic-book vehicle, Obama's evil, mirror twin: "Amabo" who is the policy 180º of the lyrical Obama, will make more of a sustained presence as the term progresses.
  • aarrgghh · 10 months ago
    deep thought: amabo is latin for "i will love you"
  • Griffon · 10 months ago
    Fitting; another future indicative 'promise' in lieu of present certitude, of similar caliber of "The check is in the mail," or Obama's opposition to offshore drilling and telecom immunity.
  • Rick · 10 months ago
    30 years? I think they should get life!
  • Angellight · 10 months ago
    Condi, Bush are all in Denial about how they have devastated this country and the world. They take no responsibility for their failures, except may be Cheney who seems to take pleasure in his defiance and failings, as if it is some holy grail to be wrong, a devil's pact.
  • burro · 10 months ago
    "And, unlike Condi, I think the Bush record will look even worse in 25 or 30 years." - Joe

    This is as good as it's going to get for ShrubCo. For now, they are still in to catapult their own propaganda and the media is still willing to soft pedal the incompetence and criminality. But the Shrubnauts are only heros in their own eyes and those of sycophants like Gerson and Krauthammer and Barnes.

    They ruined everything they even came close to. And when I think of Condoleeza Rice, all I picture is a pair of black boots. That is my total impression of her 8 years. Her presence meant nothing. She influenced nothing. She facilitated disaster.

    Good riddance Condoleeza Rice. Have fun on Faux News and the conservative speech circuit polishing your halo. That will be the only audience accepting of your spin.
  • Older_Wiser · 10 months ago
    Xmas? In a Muslim country? Don't make me laugh.

    I'm sure Condi has vastly improved her shoe collection, though. And I hope she, like Gonzales, won't be able to find another position with anyone any time soon.

    Even jail isn't good enough for these liars, cheaters and murderers.
  • HereinDC · 10 months ago
    Bush, Condi, Cheney, Rumsfled don't need to renew their passports.....they know they ain't going to leave US soil. they know once they step off US soil...they'll be brought up on War Crimes.
  • artisticfreedom · 10 months ago
    Condi- Queen of denial
  • anonymouse1 · 10 months ago
    Off topic - The Mormon girl that is leading one of those dumb Weblog award things is all sad that some people said mean things about Mormons. She claims that as a Mormon she loves everybody - you can tell her what you think at http://blog.cjanerun.com/
  • Older_Wiser · 10 months ago
    Is that site a farce? Does she even know who Anais Nin is? She probably interpreted it to mean this life and the next one on the planet she's supposed to inherit after death, eh?

    It certainly says something about the participants in that part of the blogging world.
  • Rob Mule · 10 months ago
    Condi's Defining Moment:

    May 16, 2002
    DR. RICE: Steve, I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon; that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile. All of this reporting about hijacking was about traditional hijacking. You take a plane -- people were worried they might blow one up, but they were mostly worried that they might try to take a plane and use it for release of the blind Sheikh or some of their own people.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/05...
  • Jim · 10 months ago
    More of the same BS that Chimpy was spreading yesterday. Trying to spin their decisions as unpopular. It is not about popularity it is about their completely wrong headed thinking and the destruction of everything they touched.

    In 30 years we may be able to realize the extent to which this administration has damaged the nation and the world. I believe the extent of the destruction we see now is only the tip of the iceberg.
  • Attila the Blond · 10 months ago
    30 years from now, those who remember America will be dead and the propagandists will have wiped the knowledge of the lost dream off the face of the earth, so in a way, the bitch is right.
  • MatthewCA27 · 10 months ago
    When I think of these last eight years, I ache. I can think of nothing virtually nothing this administration has done that has brought joy anywhere. If I were to truly reflect on all the atrocities, I would cry, but I don't cry.
    In 30 years people can judge this period of time.What will they focus on? Foreign relations, needless war? Economic failures, failing those in need when natural disasters struck? Maybe the intrusion of the government into citizen's private lives? It will be interesting to see how time will judge all of this, but I am doubtful it will be with a favorable light.
  • Chris · 10 months ago
    Name 1 thing that will look better in 25 or 30 years, just 1---anything. Who knows, it may take that long for our country to get better. They keep saying they protected us, did I miss something on 9/11? These people are so full of shit. And we still have to put with these morons for Lord knows how long?
  • Roddy McCorley · 10 months ago
    In contrast, I offer Dwight D. Eisenhower. After Germany surrendered, Ike was effusively congratulated on having won the war. His response was this: Wait fifty years. If Germany is reunified, and is democratic, that's when we'll know we were successful.

    But they don't make Republicans like that anymore. I'm not sure they made very many like that in the first place.
  • scytherius · 10 months ago
    And then you'll look really really bad?
  • nicho · 10 months ago
    I think she's right. Give the corporatists 30 years of well-financed propaganda, coupled with the lack of education and short attention span of the American people, and Bush will end up like Ronald Reagan. Many young people today have totally bought into the lie that Reagan "saved" America and was a great president, instead of being one of the top five worst presidents. I can definitely see where the propaganda would work.
  • brian · 10 months ago
    Just wait 25 or 30 years when you are all dead from the food we imported from China. That way no one will remember how awful we really were.
  • Nick · 10 months ago
    By Condi's lights, Hitler was good because Germany is a thriving democracy now. There's no stopping the spin and as long as one wingnut breathes, there will never be.
  • EmGD · 10 months ago
    I think they just need to start printing out an alternate history of stunning Bush successes on some lead tablets that they bury in the ground. Then hope society completely disintegrates and the human race is eradicated by disease and war within the next thirty years. Then any alien civilization that lands and finds the tablets will know of the triumphs of the mighty Bush, providing they bother to figure out the language. That's really the only hope for a positive legacy.

    http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
  • protogenes · 10 months ago
    "I think the Bush record will look even worse in 25 or 30 years."

    That depends on who writes the histories...
  • tigergrrldc · 10 months ago
    As long as there is youtube and google, rewriting history will be vewy, vewy hard.
  • protogenes · 10 months ago
    Well then, they'll just have to control Youtube and Google....
  • FunMe · 10 months ago
    Worst Secretary of State Evah!
  • jimkhm · 10 months ago
    In less than 30 we will confirm that they were indeed Nazi's, and most of them will die in jail lonely people.
  • Outraged2 · 10 months ago
    Christmas an Iraqi national holiday??? So they can celebrate their great "Judeo-Christian" tradition??? WTF???
  • Outraged2 · 10 months ago
    In thirty years I'll be eighty. I've just decided to stick around that long so I can say, with my dying breath, "What a bunch of FUCKIN' IDIOTS" one last time...
  • slappymagoo · 10 months ago
    Despite decades of political decay in the Soviet Union, diehard rightwing nutjobs still herald it as something Ronald Reagan did singlehandedly...because he was in the office during the last throes. Granted, he made some serious overtures to Westernize the area, but it wasn't all about him. Nonetheless, his lickspittles give him all the credit in the world for being there when the end began, regardless of the work of all those who came before him.

    Those same lickspittles will line up to pucker at the taint of Dubya if (IF) in 20 or 30 or 100 years the Middle East stablizes and we see serious declines in terrorist activities that come from that region. The same people who say it's ALL SAINT RONNIE because he was there LAST, will say it's ALL GENERAL DUBYA, because he was there FIRST.

    Denial is the oly word to describe it. The same sort of defense mechanisms that'll make a child think daddy got lost on the way to the store to get milk eleven years ago and that's why he never came home. The same idiotic mentality that makes a grown man think that girl he wants to take on a second date must've accidentally lost his phone number. Grownups should not behave this way, and yet they do, often. THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO BE TRUE SO IT IS TRUE LALALALALALA NOT LISTENING! I wouldn't care so much were it not for the fact they're so often in positions of power and influential over so many others. That's when I want a big bucket of bird flu to throw at 'em.
  • fl79tr · 10 months ago
    So the billions (projected trillions) spent, the thousands of Americans and possibly million Iraqis who went to an early grave because of the Bush administration, all that stuff is all okay now because they now have x'mas as an official holiday. God damn. Can somebody please throw her sorry ass in prison.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 10 months ago
    George W's principal regrets are about the ineffectiveness of public relations predicaments; not the hideous policy failures behind them that matter.
  • Steve Pipenger, esq · 10 months ago
    You know...as I listen to Senator (and soon to be Secretary of State) Clinton, all l can think is...WOW!!! How fortunate we are Democrats to have a Barack Obama and a Hillary Clinton in the SAME PARTY. How wonderful it is to listen to Mrs. Clinton be able to talk competently and knowledgeably about so many damn issues!!!!
  • RitornaVincitor · 10 months ago
    Condi is right. We have to think about how things will look in 30 years. Take the Viet Nam war, for example. Thirty plus years ago it was highly controversial. There were protests and riots. Many said the war was a terrible mistake. Others said those who protested were unpatriotic. Thousands of lives were lost and passions on both sides were high. But some 30 years later we have the perspective that comes with time. Almost everyone believes it was a terrible mistake.
  • miketwo · 10 months ago
    Haha! Ritorna, your comment is awesome.
  • RitornaVincitor · 10 months ago
    Thank you, Michael. ;0) Remember when Condi got the Sec o'State job and how she went about grinning from ear to ear. Now she says she counting down the hours until it's over.
  • RainbowPhoenix · 10 months ago
    Can someone throw a shoe at this woman?
  • shanobama · 10 months ago
    Manolo or Ferragamo?
  • RainbowPhoenix · 10 months ago
    Suprise me.
  • Paul · 10 months ago
    Time does wonders... Look how it rehabilitated Herbert Hoover.
  • shanobama · 10 months ago
    No one could have guessed/imagined/predicted that Condi would suck so bad.
  • ga za · 10 months ago
    still no mention of Gaza on the blog .... painful to see the downcast eyes in the 'liberal' blogs.
  • tropicgirl · 10 months ago
    Condi, you couldn't look any better if we waited 50 years. Good luck with your students... Everyone hates you, even little kids.
  • MBB · 10 months ago
    President’s Bush’s claim that he was “disappointed” that the US did not find WMD in Iraq is perhaps the greatest understatement ever made. EVER! In my opinion you get “disappointed” when it rains on a day you had planned a picnic; you get “disappointed” when your dog runs away, you get “disappointed” when you do not get the raise/promotion you expected. “Disappointed” does not and can not account for a unilateral invasion of a sovereign country and the continued war of aggression the US has waged in Iraq. President Bush, the mothers, fathers and loved ones of the killed solders and beyond disappointed. No measure of regret will bring those brave solders back, President Bush you need to do better than disappointed you should be ashamed.
  • MBB · 10 months ago
    President Bust claims that the Federal Government did a wonderful job addressing Hurricane Katrina by evacuating 30K people from roof tops in New Orleans. What seems to have eluded the great President is than many of those 30K people were stuck on roof tops because the Federal Government did not evacuate them! President Bush I will bet dollars to your dog turds that at least half of those people would not have been stuck on their roofs had evacuation been made available by the Federal Government. Furthermore, it was not the storm that caused the floods it was the levy breach. If evacuating the poor and elderly was too big a challenge for the “greatest” country on earth why didn’t you send out the Army Corp of Engineers to sure up the levy system? President Bush there was a multitude of opportunities that you had squandered and fouled through your ineptitude and cronyism. There is nothing you can do to improve your legacy; please Sir admit your shortcomings and beg for the mercy of the American People. Perhaps id your atonement is genuine we will only prosecute you for war crimes and forget about the rest of your screw ups
  • FatRat · 10 months ago
    Iraq used to have Christians living in Saddams dictatorship. Under Bush the Christians have been killed of fled for their lives. It is better for a Iraqi Christian to live under the thumb of a meglomanical mad man than under Bush. That pretty sums up Christmas in Iraq.
  • cwazycajun · 10 months ago
    30 years?? how bout I kick you 30 times in your boney ass then some common sence and integrity might float up from your ass and lodge between your ears...... then you might realize what a horrible rot that you and your boss dickess cheney and his puppet lil george has wrought on this country