The GOP convention - "an annual Depends sales meeting."
LOL spokesman: John McDepends
And the armband religion term is great since it is accurate on two fronts: They are fascists. And they do parade about and preen their "religion" in direct conflict to the Bible from which they supposedly worship from.
Oh, and lest we forget, Kathleen still sucks. She helped build this bed of shit that she now wants to slither away from, as if she had nothing to do with making it the festering sewer that it has become. Only problem, she still stinks of it.
BerkeleyMom
· 1 year ago
You left out my favorite part--
"So it has been for the Grand Old Party since the 1980s or so, as it has become increasingly beholden to an element that used to be relegated to wooden crates on street corners."
She nails it there. My ex-military Republican brother-in-law couldn't bring himself to vote this year thanks to Miss Half Baked Alaska and her ilk.
Lolis
· 1 year ago
Lieberman is the worst of our party and Palin has a lot of stiff competition for worst in her party.
The Republican Party has gotten so bad that it is truly scary.
SCLiberal
· 1 year ago
Good. Great. Maybe the Democrats won't feel the need to court the religious voters as they were urged to do a couple of years ago.
LPBear
· 1 year ago
There's nothing wrong with Democrats courting religious voters. Not all "religious" or "Christian" voters are Right-Wing Republican Whack Jobs. I live in a basically conservative area and go to a mainline, mainstream Methodist church and, believe me, there are a LOT of Liberal (with a capital "L") members of that church.
michaelt
· 1 year ago
personally, i would feel alot better if the opposition party wasn't batshit insane.
jcgraham77
· 1 year ago
OT but... Has anyone heard about the richest anti-gay man in America? Richard Hayne--Pres of Urban Outfitters and Anthropologie Is this old news? Here is the link--look under discussion then google him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hayne
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Very interesting. Thank you.
therepguy
· 1 year ago
You think...
The right wing, christian fascist are in deed killing the party... I left the party after the hate messages that came to light during the Houston Convention
I and my kid will not vote republican for any thing above dog catcher till the republican come to their senses and get real... and I'm not sure I would do it then...
Hate and division is dead in American alone with the republican party... its time to think green and treat each other as equals!
nicho
· 1 year ago
The biggest fools were the Christians who didn't realize they were being suckered. They were being used as tools and they fell for it -- hook, line, and sinker. They thought the Republicans really cared for them and wanted to further the Christian agenda.
The first giveaway was Ronald Reagan who the Christians adored -- even though he would have rather cut his hand off then go into a church. They failed to see through Bush for the phony he was. And they hung on every word of scoundrels like Rove and DeLay.
The Christians were idiots and now they're going to be thrown off the back of the wagon.
Lie down with dogs -- get up with fleas.
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Useful idiots vote.
lucky hussein
· 1 year ago
exactly! stooges and scrooges are getting a divorce ;) for now...
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
"the religious right is killing the Republican party "
My prayers go to them ( to the religious right that is )
:)
Aman-About-Town.com
· 1 year ago
Our politics would be a whole lot better if religion were left out! If only someone had come up with the idea to separate the affairs of the church from the governing of the state. Oh wait...!
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
[ Annual Depends Sales Meeting. ]
Ain't that the truth.
I call on the Republican Party to relinquish operations and disband, forever.
jcgraham77
· 1 year ago
There needs to be a real bonified Christian party. I suggest they break away from the Republicans and form one.
CitizenX
· 1 year ago
she said ""I'm like, okay, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door. Show me where the open door is"
Pure fundie speak through and through.
Constant Comment
· 1 year ago
She nails it . Personally, I've always thought that there will be an eventual schism of the GOP: the evangelical whackjobs (see: Palin, Huckabee) and the more fiscally conservative/socially moderate folks. In any case, their numbers can only dwindle over the years...
lucky hussein
· 1 year ago
wan't it the rise of the religious right starting in the late 70's and into the 'moral majority' 80's, etc, etc, that gave rise to the late-20th century 'republican revolution' IN THE FIRST PLACE?
MNUSA
· 1 year ago
She is so right (correct, that is). The rabid religious right's policies are simply untenable to the rest of us (including religious people). They are so against abortion that they keep supporting the most anti-family candidates available that appease them. They want to shove their brand of protestantism down the throats of everyone starting in the public schools. They want religious doctrine taught along with science in the schools. They're also mean-spirited, power-hungry and nuts!
a bold liberal
· 1 year ago
It's good to read some cold hard truth about the Rs. Ms. Parker has gotten this exactly right. It will be difficult for this message to get through to the wingnuts. After all, those conservatives using their brains are out numbered by the mouth breathers.
Wolfsinger
· 1 year ago
Kudos to Kathleen Parker for her courage. She is essentially correct in diagnosing the problem but IMHO she is severely understating the grip that the Christian right has on the Republican party. These people are not conservative. They are not "center-right" as the msm likes to say. They are extremists who want nothing less than a full blown Theocracy in this country. They do not want, neither do they work for, civil discourse within the frame work of our Constitutional government. They "Vote The Bible". They build monuments to a "6 thousand year old - man walks with dinosaurs" Earth and they, under Dobson's leadership, turn every civil and secular discussion about balance and tolerance on its ear. These Theocrats are very well funded. They hate gays, single mothers, immigrants, minorities, interracial marriage and because of the money, it will not end with the Republicans they buy and sell. Because Republicans love the power their money brings. Need proof? How many millions does Clear Channel and Sinclair broadcasting make from businesses who advertise coast to coast and that you and I use every day? Rush makes $10+million per year - or is that just Hannity? Lies, lies and more lies are SOP with this lot. The charge of hypocrisy,? A badge of courage. As long as there is the flow of cash, the Christian right and Republicans alike will be forever intertwined in a snake-like women hating, sexually repressed, incestuous embrace. Tip to Kathleen, thanks for speaking out and don't forget your fireproof suit 'cause Dobson, Hagee, Rush, Hannity, Beck, and Laura are loading their flame throwers.
FNReedie
· 1 year ago
She speaks truth to power (or what used to be power). Great comment on God showing Palin the door!
Yankee
· 1 year ago
As a Rhode Islander and a pragmatic Yankee spirit, I have to say "That's it!"
There's one of the reasons the Republicans keep losing ground in New England, and that's because we believe it's more important to follow your religion than to worry about whether other people are following it.
People start talking about their religion and it makes me look funny at them. I've got a religion thank you very much, and I do it, not talk about doing it, and I couldn't care less about yours.
bluestockton
· 1 year ago
Parker is such a conservative that she even made excuses for Strom Thurmond after his black daughter outed herself and the rest of the world was calling him a racist hypocrite.
First telling Palin to step down from the GOP ticket, now this--I can't understand what's gotten into her lately. Maybe it's the flip side of the old wisecrack "A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged." Maybe a liberal is a conservative who has seen her house and her IRA lose so much value that for a change, she's actually focused on the big picture.
liberal-cheesehead
· 1 year ago
Wow, I love your quote! I'll have to use that some time. That really was a good one.
eagleye
· 1 year ago
Remember how people used to be in awe of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove for building such a formidable Republican Party? Well, it turns out they created a piece of shit that isn't capable of sustaining itself.
warbler
· 1 year ago
Jonah Goldber wrote a very upleasant attack piece about Parker this morning on NRO's The Corner. I emailed Jonah with this: Just like the old time Upper West Side party apparatchiks getting mean and keeping the wobbly dissenters in line. What a nasty tone you have, not at all like the sweet family guy checking in every time he takes his kids to a movie. We're seeing the Nastiness of Lucianne visited on the son. There all the time, but obscured by Star Trek happy face making, we've been expecting this dark Jonah as soon as the sweet bird of his youth flew away. Welcome to the disloyal and bitter opposition.
Reply
JonahNRO to me
Reply: "Feh"
Nice!
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Kathleen has a way with words that most conservatives don't have. Unfortunately, she's a devout Reaganist and I don't trust her values. She isn't interested in social justice; she clutches her pearls to protect the country club's Republican social register. Miss Alaska & Co. don't fit the profile.
Older_Wiser
· 1 year ago
Well, she did attend Converse College, a private, expensive "ladies" school in Spartanburg, SC which is part of "fundie country" in SC now. Not so incredibly, she lives in Camden, a high society base for the horsey crowd outside Columbia.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
I didn't know those facts about her but they fit my intuition about who she is. She's the wealthy woman's answer to Erma Bombeck. High Church, I'm sure, and wears white gloves to the communion table. ( oh, am I being catty? )
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
hell hath frozen over! i agree with kathleen parker.
That would not be Kathleen Parker's country club set.
usagi
· 1 year ago
Umm, duh?
Sorry, I'm sure it's something major that someone in Parker's position is saying so publicly, but really has this not been patently transparent for a decade or more?
1970cs
· 1 year ago
Tony Blair was on the Daily Show about a month ago and he was talking about the differences in religion in the U.K. and in America. Blair thought the biggest difference was that people in the U.K. are much more private about their faith, and don't talk much about it in public.
I had a similar discussion with my aunt who transplanted to S.C. a few years ago. When she first moved there she was very surprised that most of people's social lives and circles of friends are centered around the church they attend. If you don't belong to the church, odds are you won't be close to anyone who is a member.
I've spent most of my life living in the Northeast, and if anyone wants to find themselves alone at a party or anywhere else, start talking about your church or your religion. It's not that people don't have a church they attend on a regular basis, they just don't talk about it, it's private.
It's difficult for me to see how the GOP would try to make religion into a marketable political platform outside regional areas.
Dances With Books
· 1 year ago
I live in a red southern state too. It's the same here: lives revolve around what church you attend. The reverse would apply here for a party: mention you don't have a church, or that you are just not into that, and you will become the pariah. Of course, don't mention the word pariah to them; it's one of them "big words."
Indigo
· 1 year ago
I live in moderately red state too, Florida. I know what you're saying and it is a source of endless amusement for me to tell them, "I'm a Zen Buddhist." The resounding silence is refreshing and only rarely greeted with a friendly "Is that like Unitarian?" :-)
Cory
· 1 year ago
Parker's point is wrong, I think. I've been giving this a lot of thought recently.
I don't believe that jettisoning its base would gain the republicans more votes than it would lose. Quite the opposite.
A better strategy would be for social conservatives to redouble efforts to reach out to social conservative church going hispanics and blacks on the basis of what they have in common on cultural issues. They could do it at the Church level. Joint appearances between influential pastors from various communities. Rather than jettisoning its position on abortion, it should work to radically alter its base's position on immigration to make it appear less racist.
1970cs
· 1 year ago
I think it would be very difficult for them to get the racism genie back in the bottle at this point, it's where most of the fear(power) comes from.
Older_Wiser
· 1 year ago
The Republican "intelligentsia?" I thought most of the males were swooning over Palin even if they weren't "Joe the Plumber."
What's a thinking Republican anymore? Isn't that an oxymoron?
Well, at least Kathleen knows a nazi when she sees one.
Danno
· 1 year ago
Thanks you and Ms. Parker for writing some truth.
LasloPratt
· 1 year ago
"Simply put: Armband religion is killing the Republican Party. "
While "armband religion" is a very neat critique of a particularly narrow view of the world, this statement is incorrect. The religious right IS the Republican Party now.
Simply put.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
...and it HAS BEEN the Republican party since the 1980s. It takes some folks a few decades to notice these things.
green_libertarian
· 1 year ago
Wow.
When she came out against Palin', she got numerous vile hate letters and threats on her life?
Is there a video of her being burned at the stake, yet?
I'd be worried if I were her.
the fundies are a diminishing brand, but they are NOT going without kicking, screaming, talking in tongues, and likely, taking prisoners.
smh3477
· 1 year ago
Wow. I don't think she's going to be invited to the pot luck luncheons anymore.
Older_Wiser
· 1 year ago
OT, but Bill C is campaigning for Martin in GA, and says he'll redo his associations if Hillary wants the SoS job, according to the cable news shows.
Dances With Books
· 1 year ago
I have been saying that for a while. The Repubs. are simply headed to the historical heap like Whigs and other extinct parties if they don't let go off the neo-cons and the right winger religious types. The longer they persist in letting control the party, the worse it will get for them. Then again, maybe we should encourage them to keep it up, so progressives can keep winning and maybe something gets done for a change.
P.S. Appreciate the more open commenting, thanks.
LynnDee
· 1 year ago
Quote: "She calls it "armband religion" - which means, I think, wearing your religion on your sleeve (but I can't seem to throw off the feeling that she meant a bit of a fascism allusion here as well)."
Or maybe she means they're vehemently and aggressively dedicated to their political causes?
xscd
· 1 year ago
I agree. "Armband religion" sounds like "politically aggressive religion," or "religion as a political movement."
I'm very happy to see the Republican party strangling itself by becoming too exclusive and extreme, making most of their reasonable-minded base feel alienated and uncomfortable in their own party. If I were Republican, I think I would be wrestling with whether to throw away all that was left (the ultra-right-wing religious people and the ignorant easily-influenced-by-fear bigots) in favor of trying to get back the moderate and intelligent and reasonable conservatives, or whether to try to keep the fervent and zealous religious people, hold onto the idiots, and try to diminish their role in the party to attract more moderate conservatives again.
The only problem is that the extreme far-right religious people probably don't want their role to be diminished. They probably think the Republican Party hasn't gone far enough championing their causes and forcing their agenda. They may want the Republican Party to become even more extreme which will of course further diminish its size. It is interesting to consider that we may be watching the death of a political party, and will be interesting to see whether and how they can rebuild the party.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
I propose that the phrase "as dumb as Sarah Palin" become our new predominant means of expressing that someone is as dumb as a rock.
woodroad34
· 1 year ago
*woot* good one.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
I'm with that (if I can remember it).
Webster
· 1 year ago
There you go: insulting rocks again.
Sam1
· 1 year ago
Good for her!
ianasdfg
· 1 year ago
Kathleen Parker is wrong - the Republicans need religion or need to morph into a centrist party (like the UK Conservatives)
Right wing parties have always had the problem of trying to get large swathes of the working population to vote against their economic interests in favour of a wealthy few - religion, race, fear, etc are the cards such parties have play to be electorally viable.
woodroad34
· 1 year ago
They don't need religion, they need spiritual awakening -- two different things. Religion is all about the controlling organization which they have aplenty, spirituality is about the inside. That's why these conservatives are not nice in any form of the word...there's a black, souless hole (I'm not saying where it is) that they nurture instead of a warm embracing light.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
TRUTH!
Webster
· 1 year ago
One of my favorite quotes from Bishop Spong: "Too many people use the Bible as a drunk does a lamp post--for support, rather than illumination."
That said: We need to do everything we can to encourage the Republicans to embrace the Religious-Right--to continue to solidify as their base the Religious-Right. That way we can be free of them for years and years and years.
woodroad34
· 1 year ago
Unfortunately, as you mentioned, they use it as a "lamp post". They may "disown" them now, but there will be a time when the pendulum swings back and they'll fall off the wagon and need that "lamp post" once more. The only way for them to "embrace" that filthy wing of the party is to do deep psychoanalytic sessions and recognize the true evil nature of their souls -- the lying, stealing, troture, thievery, and hate. The religious wrong need to be so disowned and ostracized that the mere mention of them will have the same effect and association as mentioning Hitler, Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe, or Joseph Stalin.
judyo
· 1 year ago
I think they "need" to continue the path they've been following.
Verchiel
· 1 year ago
"Christian" readers opined that Parker's mother should have aborted her, over her criticism of Palin.
Can't WAIT to see how they react to this.
rickATL
· 1 year ago
The GOP made their bed on this one. Now its time to pay the consequences.
woodroad34
· 1 year ago
My Ultra-conservative acquaintance was talking to another conservative at a dinner party when Kathleen Parker first wrote about Governor Avon Lady and he said how sad it was that Kathleen, whom he had liked, had finally lost her marbles and wasn't quite the reporter she used to be. I believe that falls under the category of "people unclear of the concept"
woodroad34
· 1 year ago
Oh, btw, my Ultra-conservative acquaintance scoffs at the idea that there IS a religious right. It just boggles my mind -- I don't think there's enough gin in the world to make me understand where he's coming from.
Psyche
· 1 year ago
I'll try. I have a fundie nephew - a minister no less. These folks think they are not only right (correct, that is) but "normal" and mainstream. Anyone who doesn't agree with them is fringe - a godless heathen or a DFH. They live in tight communities (often centered on the church) that are self-reinforcing so they can pretty much avoid contact with the outside world that might demand some reality testing. Oh... and they get all there news from "Christian" media and Faux News. It's an almost airtight system. That's why they hate public schools and love home schooling. Don't want their kids exposed to any ideas but their own.
woodroad34
· 1 year ago
Oh, I grew up in pretty much a rural area of Michigan. Two of my aunts were extreme baptists (just as you say, playing Xtian radio stations constantly, isolated in Xtian ghettos, etc. and a couple of cousins and my brother are missionaries for the Baptist church and my mother was very involved in the church and on her way to becoming a minister before she died), so I get that. But my Ultra-conservative acquaintance is pretty much agnostic, rich, and ghettoized in Republican circles (i.e. he only hangs out with Republicans if he can help it). He's amazed when he starts spouting dogma that he can't back up and he's challenged on it by someone like me (e.g. "what good has deregulation done?", I ask. He shouts back, "well, you wouldn't have computers!") . All his long-time friends (friends for 50 years) are looking askance at his Republican vehemence and Cruelaid-drinking dogma and wondering what happened to him. I think they know how lunatic and fringe the Xtian Right are and they just deny it in hopes that it will go away in the public consciousness (that's an alcoholic meme). It's a dangerous and psychotic mindset. Since I try to make lemonaid out of lemons, I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh, I just watch his effect on the U-C acquaintance. No thinking (and he's bright), just dogma.
pupmunchkin
· 1 year ago
Bombay or Tanqueray? And forget the vermouth.
woodroad34
· 1 year ago
and forget the glass....straight from the bottle--the gallon size with the handle.
Mexy Retroshore
· 1 year ago
She's been a little slow to catch on, hasn't she?
Mike_G
· 1 year ago
"then I'll plow through that door."
Inbetween the Stupid, and the Repig Stupid, there are The Doors. Break on through to the other side...
My rightard acquintances, I think repeating what their favorite drug-addicted radio gasbag told them, claim there is parity between the Religious Right in the Repig party and the 'Religious Left' in the Dems, and whine that no-one ever complains about the Religious Left's influence.
WTF? Is liberation theology a major part of the Dem platform? All I can figure is that they think of any religious person this side of Hagee/Falwell who votes Dem as 'religious left' (including black churches) and think this is a block vote the same as the Talibaptists and Talibangelical megachuch pod people and the Mormons, and this somehow makes the Dems an equally theocratic party as the Repigs.
enoon
· 1 year ago
"Three little letters, great big problem: G-O-D." By which do you think she means my favorite definition:
Guns, Oil, Drugs
Hmmm? As in, "In G.O.D. We Trust"
VolintheVille
· 1 year ago
Kathleen just beat mAnne Coulter to the punch. I can almost see it now, mAnne is thinking "I need more money, the economy is tanking, what could I do. GOT IT!! I'll switch party's!! Yea thats the ticket, go over to the other side, they will have the power now and the money. And write a new book or two. If Sarah could get 7 million imagine how much I can get."
lauram
· 1 year ago
Cry me a river Kathleen. For over twenty years the foot sodiers (fundagelicals) got out there and delivered their votes to your causes much to their own detriment. But that wasn't good enough for the monied leadership. Over time, you kept whipping the base up. Kept telling them how important they are. How noble. How patriotic. 'Til they could no longer just sit back and deliver their votes. They decided they had to seize more power in the party. They wanted the politicians whom they had elected to be help accountable. They wanted more fundagelical judges. more fundagelical legislation. And finally, in 2008, they wanted full on capitulation in the form of Bible Spice. And because many in your party had whipped them into their frenzy, they would not be gainsaid. They got Bible Spice. And now you and all your lovely party arms: the agnostic money, the fundie voters, the neo-cons, big business, you all have to figure out what to do with this stinking rotting morass that you yourselves have created. Have a blast. I will.
benb
· 1 year ago
The GOP incited these people into a mob and thought they could control 'em. Now, with all of the 503(c) 'educational' non-profits out there pushing the biblical buttons to keep themselves funded, it doesn't appear that the machine is gonna break down anytime soon.
fl79tr
· 1 year ago
You know, I think this is going to be the next progressive big battle, like civil rights, and gay rights, where not everybody was on board at first, and not everybody was sure they even liked the idea at first, and maybe it's too early to be picking a big fight like this, but I think the next move on the bending of the "arc of history" towards justice is to dispose of religious fascism, and more broadly, religion in general and permanently. Its time has come and gone, it's an embarrassment and an unnecessary cruelty to humanity that such absurd superstitions exist, let alone have sway over the future of our nation or other nations for that matter. It's true the republicans created this monster, I'm glad it's now destroying them.
In the book of Job, after everything goes to hell for Job, his wife tells him to curse god and die. I would say to all religious people, curse god and live.
Proteus454
· 1 year ago
Hurrah!
Rictracee
· 1 year ago
I KNOW YOUR SPOT ON WITH THIS.. the republican party going to have to rebrand and become more inclusive. right now they are divisive and polarizing.. they look like the OLD WHITE MENS party.. or the dumb red neck party.. who wants to be affiliated with that crap
the_big_wedding
· 1 year ago
While the religous right's stubborn adherence to social issue like abortion and gay marriage might have damaged the credibility of the Republican party, it was the neoconservative movement that destroyed the party.
Fact: if the "eternal war on terror" for Israel and the world's resources had not bankrupted the U.S., shredding the constitutional rights of everyones, creating a backlash against the Republicans/neocons for their illegal war in Iraq, these wedge issues of gay marriage and abortion would still have been effective. Not only with white Republicans, but with Latinos and blacks across the political spectrum as well. The demographics of the "Yes" vote on Propostion 8 bears this theory out.
Remember, the Republican Party has historically stood for fiscal conservatism and limited state involvement. But the Republican Party was hijacked by the neoconservatives, the internationalist zionists who proceded to drive the party into the ground with the tactics that they use:
The Neocons agree with Trotsky on permanent revoultion: violent as well as intellectual.
The Neocons are for redrawing the map of the middle east through force, if necessary.
The Neocons believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends.
The Neocons believe the ends justify the means.
The Neocons are not opposed to the welfare state.
The Neocons believe in an American (Israeli) empire.
The Neocons believe lying is necessary for the state to survive.
The Neocons believe in a strong, centralized federal government.
The Neocons believe society should be run by the elite.
The Neocons oppose American neutrality.
The Neocons despise and smear constitutionalists.
The Neocons will attack your civil rights (the PATRIOT Act).
The Neocons unconditionally support Israel and are closely allied with Israel's Likud party.
The Republican Party can be re-built, but it must get back to its limited government, constitutionalists roots, and people like Ron Paul can take them there.
What I am becoming concerned about is that there may be a movement afoot to spin the election against the Republicans (whites) vis a vis everyone else. Gosh, I wonder who would benefit from spinning the election in this fashion?
My speculation would be that the same people (zionists) who hijacked the Republicans would like to spin the election as white conservatives against everyone else, capitalizing on changing demographics and the Jewish role in the history of desegregation and the civil rights movement. Remember: the NAACP's first president was Arthur Spingarn (1909), and only Jews served as NAACP presidents from its founding until the 1970s.
While the role of Jews in the civil rights movement was courageous and should be commended, the current clique of Likudite zionist that have used 911 as the pretext for more wars and less constitutional rights should not be allowed to hide behind the service of their forebearers: using the "anti-semitism" psyops to deflect investigation and just criticism. And certainly not allowing them to deflect the election results to hide from their crimes.
The potential for damage from exploiting apparent racials divisions created by such a divisive media campaign could be devastating to the country: pitting newly disenfranchised angry whites against historically disenfranchise angry minorities.
Neroon
· 1 year ago
I live in Washington state and it has now been since 1984 that we last had a Republican Governor. The trend in statewide office here has been Democrat and the reason is simple, the Taliban wing of the Republicans has been in control for too long. The one time they came close it took a Dem with issues and a Republican perceived as being more moderate. Now over time the national party is going the same direction.
Murle Breer
· 1 year ago
I really enjoyed reading articles by Kathleen Parker at one time. Now, she just likes to trash God and anyone who believes in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. She takes great pride in trashing Sarah Palin and anyone who is a true conservative. I am against abortion, gay marriage, against any gun control, and I'm for smaller government. My world view comes from God's Word, the Bible. I guess that makes me righ-wing and I'm one of the causes for the defeat of Republicans. I would rather be on God's side then to be a part of the culture that is taking this country down the tubes. I ask this question; What happened to the Roman Empire? Read 2 Timothy 3: 1-5 and tell me if this doesn't sound like our culture in 2008?
Don Collins
· 12 months ago
This lady really has it right about what God has done to the Republican Party.
All Comments
Finally!
A positive accomplishment for organized religion!!
Ofcourse, I'd call it,more accurately,
"BRAIN-SHACKLE RELIGION".
LOL spokesman: John McDepends
And the armband religion term is great since it is accurate on two fronts:
They are fascists.
And they do parade about and preen their "religion" in direct conflict to the Bible from which they supposedly worship from.
Oh, and lest we forget, Kathleen still sucks.
She helped build this bed of shit that she now wants to slither away from,
as if she had nothing to do with making it the festering sewer that it has become.
Only problem, she still stinks of it.
"So it has been for the Grand Old Party since the 1980s or so, as it has become increasingly beholden to an element that used to be relegated to wooden crates on street corners."
She nails it there. My ex-military Republican brother-in-law couldn't bring himself to vote this year thanks to Miss Half Baked Alaska and her ilk.
The Republican Party has gotten so bad that it is truly scary.
Has anyone heard about the richest anti-gay man in America?
Richard Hayne--Pres of Urban Outfitters and Anthropologie
Is this old news?
Here is the link--look under discussion then google him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hayne
The right wing, christian fascist are in deed killing the party... I left the party after the hate messages that came to light during the Houston Convention
I and my kid will not vote republican for any thing above dog catcher till the republican come to their senses and get real... and I'm not sure I would do it then...
Hate and division is dead in American alone with the republican party... its time to think green and treat each other as equals!
The first giveaway was Ronald Reagan who the Christians adored -- even though he would have rather cut his hand off then go into a church. They failed to see through Bush for the phony he was. And they hung on every word of scoundrels like Rove and DeLay.
The Christians were idiots and now they're going to be thrown off the back of the wagon.
Lie down with dogs -- get up with fleas.
My prayers go to them ( to the religious right that is )
:)
Ain't that the truth.
I call on the Republican Party to relinquish operations and disband, forever.
Pure fundie speak through and through.
There's one of the reasons the Republicans keep losing ground in New England, and that's because we believe it's more important to follow your religion than to worry about whether other people are following it.
People start talking about their religion and it makes me look funny at them. I've got a religion thank you very much, and I do it, not talk about doing it, and I couldn't care less about yours.
First telling Palin to step down from the GOP ticket, now this--I can't understand what's gotten into her lately. Maybe it's the flip side of the old wisecrack "A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged." Maybe a liberal is a conservative who has seen her house and her IRA lose so much value that for a change, she's actually focused on the big picture.
Just like the old time Upper West Side party apparatchiks getting mean and keeping the wobbly dissenters in line.
What a nasty tone you have, not at all like the sweet family guy checking in every time he takes his kids to a movie.
We're seeing the Nastiness of Lucianne visited on the son. There all the time, but obscured by Star Trek happy face making,
we've been expecting this dark Jonah as soon as the sweet bird of his youth flew away. Welcome to the disloyal and bitter opposition.
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Nice!
( oh, am I being catty? )
i agree with kathleen parker.
http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/12/political-p...
Sorry, I'm sure it's something major that someone in Parker's position is saying so publicly, but really has this not been patently transparent for a decade or more?
I had a similar discussion with my aunt who transplanted to S.C. a few years ago. When she first moved there she was very surprised that most of people's social lives and circles of friends are centered around the church they attend. If you don't belong to the church, odds are you won't be close to anyone who is a member.
I've spent most of my life living in the Northeast, and if anyone wants to find themselves alone at a party or anywhere else, start talking about your church or your religion. It's not that people don't have a church they attend on a regular basis, they just don't talk about it, it's private.
It's difficult for me to see how the GOP would try to make religion into a marketable political platform outside regional areas.
:-)
I don't believe that jettisoning its base would gain the republicans more votes than it would lose. Quite the opposite.
A better strategy would be for social conservatives to redouble efforts to reach out to social conservative church going hispanics and blacks on the basis of what they have in common on cultural issues. They could do it at the Church level. Joint appearances between influential pastors from various communities. Rather than jettisoning its position on abortion, it should work to radically alter its base's position on immigration to make it appear less racist.
What's a thinking Republican anymore? Isn't that an oxymoron?
Well, at least Kathleen knows a nazi when she sees one.
While "armband religion" is a very neat critique of a particularly narrow view of the world, this statement is incorrect. The religious right IS the Republican Party now.
Simply put.
When she came out against Palin', she got numerous vile hate letters and threats on her life?
Is there a video of her being burned at the stake, yet?
I'd be worried if I were her.
the fundies are a diminishing brand, but they are NOT going without kicking, screaming, talking in tongues, and likely, taking prisoners.
P.S. Appreciate the more open commenting, thanks.
Or maybe she means they're vehemently and aggressively dedicated to their political causes?
I'm very happy to see the Republican party strangling itself by becoming too exclusive and extreme, making most of their reasonable-minded base feel alienated and uncomfortable in their own party. If I were Republican, I think I would be wrestling with whether to throw away all that was left (the ultra-right-wing religious people and the ignorant easily-influenced-by-fear bigots) in favor of trying to get back the moderate and intelligent and reasonable conservatives, or whether to try to keep the fervent and zealous religious people, hold onto the idiots, and try to diminish their role in the party to attract more moderate conservatives again.
The only problem is that the extreme far-right religious people probably don't want their role to be diminished. They probably think the Republican Party hasn't gone far enough championing their causes and forcing their agenda. They may want the Republican Party to become even more extreme which will of course further diminish its size. It is interesting to consider that we may be watching the death of a political party, and will be interesting to see whether and how they can rebuild the party.
Right wing parties have always had the problem of trying to get large swathes of the working population to vote against their economic interests in favour of a wealthy few - religion, race, fear, etc are the cards such parties have play to be electorally viable.
That said: We need to do everything we can to encourage the Republicans to embrace the Religious-Right--to continue to solidify as their base the Religious-Right. That way we can be free of them for years and years and years.
Can't WAIT to see how they react to this.
Inbetween the Stupid, and the Repig Stupid, there are The Doors.
Break on through to the other side...
My rightard acquintances, I think repeating what their favorite drug-addicted radio gasbag told them, claim there is parity between the Religious Right in the Repig party and the 'Religious Left' in the Dems, and whine that no-one ever complains about the Religious Left's influence.
WTF? Is liberation theology a major part of the Dem platform? All I can figure is that they think of any religious person this side of Hagee/Falwell who votes Dem as 'religious left' (including black churches) and think this is a block vote the same as the Talibaptists and Talibangelical megachuch pod people and the Mormons, and this somehow makes the Dems an equally theocratic party as the Repigs.
By which do you think she means my favorite definition:
Guns,
Oil,
Drugs
Hmmm? As in, "In G.O.D. We Trust"
I can almost see it now, mAnne is thinking "I need more money, the economy is tanking, what could I do. GOT IT!! I'll switch party's!! Yea thats the ticket, go over to the other side, they will have the power now and the money. And write a new book or two. If Sarah could get 7 million imagine how much I can get."
In the book of Job, after everything goes to hell for Job, his wife tells him to curse god and die. I would say to all religious people, curse god and live.
Fact: if the "eternal war on terror" for Israel and the world's resources had not bankrupted the U.S., shredding the constitutional rights of everyones, creating a backlash against the Republicans/neocons for their illegal war in Iraq, these wedge issues of gay marriage and abortion would still have been effective. Not only with white Republicans, but with Latinos and blacks across the political spectrum as well. The demographics of the "Yes" vote on Propostion 8 bears this theory out.
Remember, the Republican Party has historically stood for fiscal conservatism and limited state involvement. But the Republican Party was hijacked by the neoconservatives, the internationalist zionists who proceded to drive the party into the ground with the tactics that they use:
The Neocons agree with Trotsky on permanent revoultion: violent as well as intellectual.
The Neocons are for redrawing the map of the middle east through force, if necessary.
The Neocons believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends.
The Neocons believe the ends justify the means.
The Neocons are not opposed to the welfare state.
The Neocons believe in an American (Israeli) empire.
The Neocons believe lying is necessary for the state to survive.
The Neocons believe in a strong, centralized federal government.
The Neocons believe society should be run by the elite.
The Neocons oppose American neutrality.
The Neocons despise and smear constitutionalists.
The Neocons will attack your civil rights (the PATRIOT Act).
The Neocons unconditionally support Israel and are closely allied with Israel's Likud party.
The Republican Party can be re-built, but it must get back to its limited government, constitutionalists roots, and people like Ron Paul can take them there.
What I am becoming concerned about is that there may be a movement afoot to spin the election against the Republicans (whites) vis a vis everyone else. Gosh, I wonder who would benefit from spinning the election in this fashion?
My speculation would be that the same people (zionists) who hijacked the Republicans would like to spin the election as white conservatives against everyone else, capitalizing on changing demographics and the Jewish role in the history of desegregation and the civil rights movement. Remember: the NAACP's first president was Arthur Spingarn (1909), and only Jews served as NAACP presidents from its founding until the 1970s.
While the role of Jews in the civil rights movement was courageous and should be commended, the current clique of Likudite zionist that have used 911 as the pretext for more wars and less constitutional rights should not be allowed to hide behind the service of their forebearers: using the "anti-semitism" psyops to deflect investigation and just criticism. And certainly not allowing them to deflect the election results to hide from their crimes.
The potential for damage from exploiting apparent racials divisions created by such a divisive media campaign could be devastating to the country: pitting newly disenfranchised angry whites against historically disenfranchise angry minorities.
I didn't leave the Party, the Party left me.