AMERICAblog: David Gergen: McCain/palin rallies "whipping around anger that could really lead to some violence"
jeffg166
· 1 year ago
There is seething rage on both sides. We've had to endure Duyba for nearly 8 years. The right will just have to get over it.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
You don't see mobs at Obama's or Biden's events, though. Their crowds are upbeat, but the Palin/McCain crowds are getting pretty close to becoming violent. I am trying to get a bead on the size of their crowds. They do not look anywhere near the size of the Obama crowds, but they sound as if they are going to form their own "Weather Underground" after the election. What irony.
grandma
· 1 year ago
I agree about David Gergen......I pay attention to what he has to say.....and McCain and Palin are inciting violence......they need to be told in no uncertain terms to knock it off........they are accusing Obama of association with violent types .....yet they stand there and incite violence .....
grandma
· 1 year ago
The Obama campaign should run an ad using McPalin's own rallies against them.....the people shouting "terrorist, kill em, traitor"..........this kind of thing should make Americans very afraid of McCain/Palin.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
I wish a 527 or PAC would pick it up.
You're right, it would be very dramatic. And it would sink McCain for good, because he's now fighting for the moderate, middle of the road voters, and they're not going to vote for crazy shit like that.
WDemDem
· 1 year ago
Absolutely right, grandma. The media coverage is more about short soundbites of what they're saying to insight this fury, but very little about what the result could be. These nutjobs are setting our society back decades. Christians love to hate, but WWJD?
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
Hey MSM - here's your story for Friday...McCain and Palin are practically inciting violence against the democratic candidate, calling him a terrorist over and over. That is criminal behavior...if McCain won't shut it down, the authorities better...
grandma
· 1 year ago
I so agree.....someone needs to do something about it.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
can you imagine the head cracking that'd be happening if Obama or his supporters were doing this to McCain?
red_dwarf
· 1 year ago
...or a leading left wing journal talking about how big Obama's wanger is? I still can't get over the National Review editor, Richard Lowrey (who was on CNN last nite), writing up front and center that Palin gave him an erection by winking through the TV. How sick can it get you ask?
Spunky_Jitters
· 1 year ago
Poor Richard. It's the only action he can get.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Yep...they'd be whining and crying foul and every network would be playing it.
WDemDem
· 1 year ago
I'm surprised they haven't brought up Willie Horton yet.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
I have written this before, but I think it's so worthy of notice. We cannot commend the black members of the Democratic Party enough (I mean the rank and file) for how restrained and dignified they have been both in the primaries and now. But they have a lot of experience in non-violent resistance, and Obama sets the tone. The Palinists most certainly view themselves as racially superior, but the facts tell a different story.
brian
· 1 year ago
That's what happens when you live in Nazi Germ...I mean America these days.
grandma
· 1 year ago
What's telling is that to Republicans this kind of thing is acceptable.......even funny to some......and they consider themselves the party of Christian values......I do not understand how anyone who calls him/herself a Christian cannot see thru the hypocrisy. What they are doing is WRONG....there are no two ways about it.
lynchie
· 1 year ago
They are not christians. They are the product of televangelists. you know the self appointed talk to God dudes. Just like Bush who God talks to I guess daily. These evangelists are all old testament, all fire, brimstone and punishment. Give me your little girls I will spank them. They wear expensive suits, fly on their own jets, strip their followers of their money, proclaim they are christian while being pedophiles and rapists. Their followers simply believe they can do what they want. There is not a single thing christian about any of these folks, especially McCain and the right, though I will add I used to puke when Bill Clinton walked around with his Bible on Sundays.
Bubbles
· 1 year ago
Christ commanded his followers to separate religion from civics. COMMANDED. He had good reason for this: he knew that civics has to make compromises that religious ethics can't make and it was politics inside of a religious hierarchy that had him whipped, stripped, tripped, tortured and murdered in the most painful way possible Those that say they are Christian and violate the commandment are simply not Christians. These very people who call themselves Christians are in reality a latter day Sanhedrin and given the chance they would do the same thing, and right now they'd do it to Obama. They are politicians disguising themselves as Christians. They are wolves in sheeps clothes.
Chimpeach
· 1 year ago
My husband and I agreed this morning that the desperate McCain campaign, by whipping their more unbalanced supporters into a frenzy of hate, might be attempting to set Obama up for an assassination.
red_dwarf
· 1 year ago
Chmpch: Historically when the right wants to take someone out they just do it. I wouldn't worry too much about an average rePiglican taking Obama out - however, violence of other types, including the murder of blacks, gays, etc, generally, would certainly be an issue here.
Bubbles
· 1 year ago
They never have had any trouble finding some flunky wanting to make a name for himself.
Bubbles
· 1 year ago
BTW - they'd never attempt to do him in before an election. Americans have a history of enormous sympathy for a candidate that has died, let alone slain. In 2000 Missouri elected a dead man Senator over incumbent Ashcroft, this in a year where George Bush won Missouri. In 1964 Americans gave Lyndon Johnson an enormous landslide victory after the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
If Obama were assassinated before the Election, Biden would win every state but Utah and the Dems would sweep in the Senate.
The rethugs won't lift a hand to him before the election and afterword it will be too late. He likely won't have much in the way of public exposure until his inaugeration on the 20th. After that he'll be in deep into his first 100 days. If they were going to bumb him off, they should have done it 18 months ago when. Maybe that's why they are so mad. They can't even bumb him off.
red_dwarf
· 1 year ago
Pornography, violence and racism. It's the ABCs of the rePiglican party.
Bubbles
· 1 year ago
Resentment, anger and hatred is the holy trinity for republicans.
Especially resentment. The wealthy resent the new deal, Southerns resent the Civil War's outcome, Bigot's resent the civil rights movement, Fundies and social conservatives resent the growth in civil liberties, Nationalist/militarast resent the out come of the Vietnam war. In essence they resent what modern America has become. In other words they resent America. And they have no problem backing policies that undermine it.
The most important group is the wealthy elites. They provide seed money so that all the other groups can organize and grow.
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
None of this surprises me at all. The Right is vicious about viewing power as an entitlement - the very thought that the American people might choose something - or someone - other than the Right's annointed dufuses is an utter outrage to them. Of course they are angry - but then, they are ALWAYS angry. Their issue this time is that they can't figure out which tactic works - their irresponsible anger at democracy, their fear and hysteria, or their faux arrogance and fake patriotism. They will cling to power until pried out of office - they've always been that way and they will continue to act that way. They don't care if the American people don't want them elected or not - they'll try to bully them into submission.
Let's just hope that enough people are willing to stand up this year and put an end to this crap. We have far too many challenges as a nation to cater to these emotional adolescents.
michaelt
· 1 year ago
barack hussein obama is already president in my book. we need to look out for him.
WDemDem
· 1 year ago
I couldn't agree more. I'm constantly on edge worrying about his safety. The GOP sure is good at instilling fear.
davespicer
· 1 year ago
I hope those rallies are being very well documented - videos of 'em will surely end up as case studies of how to sail on tides of hatred. And those clips will be in pretty infamous company from the 1930s...
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Palin reminds me so much of George Wallace.
The same things would happen at Wallace rallies in '68 that are happening at Palin raliies now, with the crowd getting angrier and angrier and even going after the press (though, at the Wallace rallies, there weren't many black reporters, so the Wallace supporters mainly yelled at the press for being "Jews.")
Check out Theodore White's "The Making of the President 1968" for a full description of a Wallace rally in Cicero, Ill., that resembled Palin's Florida rallies exactly.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Very good comparison! That same sort of rabid populism and anti-intellectualism.
Kozar
· 1 year ago
Some hack from the market floor on CNBC just blamed the whole Wall Street mess on Pelosi,Frank and Obama. Said the country is getting ready for the policies of Democrats. And the talking heads just let him go on.. What a frickin joke. I know,a bit OT, but shows how desperate these people are.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Yeah, that pisses me off.
Any study of the politics of real economists will show you that they mostly vote Democrat, yet the business networks have all these Wingnuts pushing their garbage out.
I wish somebody could get the economists together to demand that they start hiring reporters who have a realistic view of economics instead of the Supply Side garbage that is actually a joke among real economists.
CobaltBlue
· 1 year ago
violence, hatred and bigotry first. country last.
gwpriester
· 1 year ago
Isn't that some kind of crime? Inciting to violence?
grandma
· 1 year ago
Try going into a crowd and yelling 'terrorist' or "kill em"....and I bet you'd be arrested.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
you know they know this crap isn't playing well with the coveted independents...
therefore, arguably, they are intentionally continuing this mob baiting in order to incite violence against Obama. The authorities need to get on this now.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Will the UltraCons be rioting in the streets on November 5?
grandma
· 1 year ago
Joe Klein:
"Watch the tape of the guy screaming, "He's a terrorist!" McCain seems to shudder at that, he rolls his eyes... and I thought for a moment he'd admonish the man. But he didn't. And now he's selling the Ayres non-story full-time. Yes, yes, it's all he has. True enough: he no longer has his honor. But we are on the edge of some real serious craziness here and it would be nice if McCain did the right thing and told his more bloodthirsty supporters to go home and take a cold shower. But McCain hasn't done the right thing all year. His campaign is appalling, as the New York Times editorial board said today--and more, it is a national disgrace."
McCain-Palin rally is like being at a Nazi rally with Palin as Hitler in a female body!
MnDem
· 1 year ago
Could lead to violence?
July 28, 2008: Killer targeted church for liberal views
August 15, 2008: Gunman murders Arkansas Democratic Party chairman
We're already there. 25 years of hate talk radio 24/7 has done it's job. Palin and McCain inciting their crowds to violence was the inevitable result.
The MSM thought that the hate talkers were harmless boobs appealing to the great uneducated masses, and were unwilling to see the similarities to 1930's Germany. Well, those brainwashed radio listeners and right wing nut jobs have guns, and they think God is telling them to kill the liberals to save the country.
Hurrycane
· 1 year ago
Gunman murders Arkansas Democratic Party chairman
Didn't this have more to do with the murderer's job loss than anything else? IIRC, this wasn't a politically-motivated crime.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
new RNC ad out today mentions Ayers and Rezko... GOPers know it's over.
I think they are going to go fast and furious over the next couple of days before the third quarter reports come out in a few days. People are going to look at their statements and be in shock, real shock. That shock is going to turn to anger. I think McCain is hoping for enough distraction to veer away from the economy but I really don't see it working.
MNUSA
· 1 year ago
There's a whole lot of us that will be working well past retirement age because of the move from guaranteed pensions to 401k plans. I hope they remember that the Repubs wanted to do the same to Social Security. There needs to be stringent laws passed in the next few months that secures the shareholders' position in corporations and prevents CEOs from the looting that has gone on for too long. If Obama doesn't win, we're all sunk.
prochoicelib
· 1 year ago
"well, I really worry when we get people "-and then he corrects himself!!
That's right. When you politicians get people riled up for your own ends. Let's see...Iraq Invasion, part 1 & 2 for starters. Oh, and all the "talking points" which are just propaganda spilled among the population so you can get your own agenda through.
Now that it's all melting down and ready to blow up in your faces....Now you're saying whoa?
This is what happens with 30+ years of dumb, greedy, manipulative people at the helm who I believe have a personal hatred for the general population and treat them as suckers. Um, right wing ralk radio anyone? How much is Rush Limpballs getting paid on his new contract? Now we all have to suffer.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
To me, it would seem that what McCain-Palin are currently doing is akin to shouting fire in a crowded theater. Whereas the freedom of speech is not at issue, what they say, how they say it and what they DON'T say while using incredibly incendiary language can only provoke many to go far beyond what they may do ordinarily.
While Oliver Wendell Holmes brought up this very issue, he also made the point that all such examples are subject to "reasonable government intrusions". THIS government may not decide to interfere with the campaign of one of its own, but the greater and larger context of government of, by and for the people should stand up NOW and demand that this campaign cease and desist immediately!
Unless and until our own country will stand up for the beliefs on which we have been built, we will not only possibly lose an election and a candidate but the honor of our country as well. Such disgraceful conduct is hardly worthy of the adoration McCain seems to believe is his due and unless they stop this nonsense, they just might find themselves in court under very painful and difficult circumstances.
lynchie
· 1 year ago
Polly: share your thoughts, but Palin and McCain will never end up in court. Hell, our Dems can't find it within themselves to make Meirs, Rove, Rumsfeld, Gonzalez etc., etc., etc., accountable for their illegal activities. Their has been no honor in this country since we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. McCain has never done a single thing in his life that did not come with money attached. He believes because of his genes and his father and grandfather being Admirals that he is better and special. He is a scum bag but will never suffer for his actions. When this is over, he will still be a Senator, he will still be married to a millionairess and still be admired by millions on the right for having tried to stop the liberal black man from ruining our country. The real tragedy is that in 4 years this whole financial disaster will be blamed on Obama. Americans have the memory of a gnat and the next election will not only be more of the same but the added fuel of the depression which is coming. Keep also in mind how the Republicans have stonewalled, fillibustered and stopped the Dems in the past two years. That will get uglier, dirtier and more racist in its tone.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
I most definitely hear you, but things have truly gone beyond anything we have ever experienced before. This seems to be a theme this election year as we are now facing all sorts of First Time incidents that affect our nation if not the world.
That said, I do have faith that at this point in time we just might see the Dems (AND Republicans) stand up to address the horrors that McCain is inflicting upon this nation for which he declares his love.
As for how this entire bail out/depression thing pans out, I doubt anyone will EVER blame Obama, at least up to this point in time. IF he manages to win (and I think he will do so and easily) how he decides to react to it will be what is written about. My faith thus far is that if ANYONE can figure this complex thing out, it will be Obama and his minions...at least let us all hope.
lynchie
· 1 year ago
You have already forgotten how vile and base the Republicans are. I remember the accusations made against the Clinton whitehouse for destroying furniture, computers, etc. Every single thing that the Republican Congress shoved through for the past 12 years has been blamed on Clinton. Americans are most basically stupid and the right wing in this country have never accepted their dose of medicine for all the things they screwed up. My neighbor just shouted at me for destroying the 12 McCain/Palin signs he shoved into my front lawn, he said by doing so i was breaking laws guaranteed by the Constitution. When he went inside i put a homemade Obama/Biden sign on his lawn. Can't wait to see how long it takes for a vessel in his head to explode.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
If that wasn't so sad about your neighbor it would be funny. Actually, I am laughing. I can see it now, battle of the front yards. Good Luck to you.
lynchie
· 1 year ago
Actually I have been laughing my ass off. He just came out and threw my Obama sign onto my lawn. My wife asked me to be kind to him cause he is obviously out of control. It is even more funny when the righties don't have things their way. When they realize their little Disney land is going to explode. What they will never admit is that when the Dems are running the country things are more stable for all the people not just the rich and the nut job white christians. I was never happier than under Clinton, even though I didn't like some of the things he allowed to pass and his screwing around, we were a kinder nation. Then Gingrich, Delay, Hastert, and the crowd of deadbeats took over and we now live on pure hatred. I will keep you up on the "Battle of the Lawns". By the way the wind blows all the leaves off my lawn onto his and that also sends him looney.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
OMG, LOL LOL Battle of the SIgns and Battle of the Leaves. Too funny!
When I lived in the midwest and the leaves started dropping my neighbor and I engaged in a running battle of the leaves. The lazy bastard used to blow his leaves in my yard when he thought I wasn't home. Needless to say, this did nothing to encourage "neighborly feelings".
lynchie
· 1 year ago
This assblanket has already forgotten that I have the only generator in the neighborhood and last winter when the power was out for 2 days everyone was at my home since i had power for my furnace. This winter will see more of the same, but he will again have to come into my house where I will subject him to Olbermann, Maddow and i will keep my lawn signs to put up in all my rooms. That aquarius will be justice at last.
MnDem
· 1 year ago
Your post made me laugh out loud, which I haven't don't enough of these days. Thanks! I wish the wind would blow our leaves into another yard. Twenty five years ago my husband planted all these trees, and now complains about the leaves.
Four years ago I had my own "battle of the lawns." My neighbor across the street had a huge, 4' by 8' Bush sign in his yard (an average size suburban lot) to counter my small Kerry sign.
This year, nothing. People are asking me why he doesn't have a McCain sign in his yard. How should I know? He doesn't talk to me cause I'm a liberal.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
McCain is following the Republican policy of divide and conquer. It worked for George Bush BUT the big difference here is McCain is dividing this country not only by political affiliations, he is dividing the country by race, even though it is never stated that way. This is one dangerous slippery slope and if it continues may return this country to violence of the 60's.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Yeah and can you believe that this man is actually running on a campaign that states COUNTRY FIRST?
(by the way, good morning!)
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
McCain's campaign slogan should be ME FIRST GET OUT OF MY WAY. He thinks he deserves it because he was a good lap dog to Bush for 8 years.
And a good morning to you.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
He thought he deserved it BEFORE Bush creamed him in 2000, that is his entire MO. He is merely a terribly spoiled brat who seemingly has always gotten what he wanted in his own time.
It is truly a sorry show that someone age 72 is acting like my youngest nephew of 12, at least at that age you can still spank him!
burro
· 1 year ago
Excellent profile of McBush in the new Rolling Stone. The guy is a fraud, a jerk, a narcissist who is totally pissed off that he got the crap beat out of him by that fat ass Rove and his useless little sidekick Shruby. And now, NOW! he's going to get the crap kicked out of him by a BLACK GUY! He hates this shit. He's so angry he can't stand it and all he can do is let the nitwits in the crowd rant and threaten because he just can't go there himself right now.
It's nuts that McBush is even on the stage. It really is. It's such a triumph of hype and marketing over substance. That such a nasty, mean spirited, self serving bozo is even a candidate at this beyond precarious time historically really speaks to the degradation of any kind of vision for the future of this country by the people who think he's a viable option for the presidency.
Over the years, John McCain has demonstrated a streak of anger so nasty that even his former flacks make no effort to spin it away. "If I tried to convince you he does not have a temper, you should hang up on me and ridicule me in print," says Dan Schnur, who served as McCain's press man during the 2000 campaign. Even McCain admits to an "immature and unprofessional reaction to slights" that is "little changed from the reactions to such provocations I had as a schoolboy."
Break -------------
More recently, McCain's jokes have heightened tensions with Iran. The senator once cautioned that "the world's only superpower . . . should never make idle threats" — but that didn't stop him from rewriting the lyrics to a famous Beach Boys tune. In April 2007, when a voter at a town-hall session asked him about his policy toward Tehran, McCain responded by singing, "bomb bomb bomb" Iran. The loose talk was meant to incite the GOP base, but it also aggravated relations with Iran, whose foreign minister condemned McCain's "jokes about genocide" as a testament to his "disturbed state of mind" and "warmongering approach to foreign policy."
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
I do not think you can overstate that McCain obviously can not stand the idea that he is actually running against an African American man. His bias (or shall I say racism) is overflowing with every nasty little turn of his head, so much so that WOLFF BLITZER (of all people) actually commented on it.
He is a MISOGYNIST and a wretched RACIST...why aren't the MSM discussing his own involvement with his long time love for that Facist group to which he belongs?
MNUSA
· 1 year ago
Obama's bi-racial heritage may be part of it. But Obama is also a young upstart who is smart, tall, elegant and cool. He must drive McCain to distraction.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
I think he has already done a pretty darn good job at that and I await the comings that are in our collective future!
By the way, I do believe that the term "upstart" was meant for someone under the age of 30, not a middle aged man of means.
MNUSA
· 1 year ago
The Rolling Stone article is truly frightening.
SouthernYankee
· 1 year ago
Hey, maybe we should all e-mail McCain camp and ask them not to incite these attacks for fear of riots. Does anyone know where we can e-mail the McCain camp and ask them to stop. Than maybe we all can stop these attacks. This is scary stuff.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
They aren't going to take our advice. They think they are doing nothing wrong. We need to continue to call the Secret Service and demand them to ask the McCain - Palin camp stop inciting their crowds to yell death threats:
Contact your field office and ask them to put pressure on their campaign to TONE IT DOWN! Its irresponsible, dishonorable and DANGEROUS to get their crazy supporters to scream death threats at sitting U.S. Senators!
houstonray
· 1 year ago
Good idea, though as my partner just asked, where is the Secret Service now, why haven't they done it already. I told him probably because enough people aren't calling. Then he said "why should people have to call, isn't that their job anyway?"
Damn logic!
Off to call anyway...
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Tell your partner the secret service doesn't come out front with anything like this. They get calls all the time about threats to elected officials. They file reports and act on those reports. One of the ways they get information on who is making threats is TO CALL THEM.
bish8
· 1 year ago
I respect Gergen's opinions. Anybody know where Cafferty has been? I miss him.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
I don't know if he's been back since his wife died unexpectedly...
I miss him too, I'd love to hear his comments on all this...
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
I was really proud of Paul Begala when he took the others to task for trying to make it sound like Obama - Biden were also "going negative." He made the assertion that was ridiculous and false balance and Obama - Biden was running an honorable campaign while McCain - Palin was being dishonorable and irresponsible by whipping their crowd into a brown shirt frenzy.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Oh boy, idiot boy is now trying to "calm the markets"
He should just go clear brush in Crawford like he has done for his entire Presidency.
MnDem
· 1 year ago
Bush stayed in Iraq because he truly believed that history would exonerate him, much as history now sees Harry Truman as a great president and American.
We now see a man who understands that he will be relegated to the dustbin of history along with Herbert Hoover. The great legacy that he hoped for himself? Gone with the wind and our retirement funds. All those lives lost, and money down the rathole of Iraq, and for what?
We can't get rid of him soon enough.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
George W. Bush needs to just keep his stupid yap shut. He has done enough damage.
I totally agree with Mr. Gergen. What McCain and Palin are doing is very dangerous and will cause terrible damage to our country. In a time when we are looking for a leader that will unite us and give us back our respect in the world, they are creating dissension in our own country and possibly stunting our ability to get out of this abyss but rather make the problem worse with a divided country.
What kind of leader could McCain possibly be, when he would sacrifice all decency in fair play simply to get elected. That only tells us that, as president, he would do whatever he wants, whatever the cost. That is when rights are violated and rules are not followed for someone's idea of what needs to get done. That kind of 'maverick' attitude we don't need. They talk about being mavericks as being a good thing, but in his case, it has contributed to let Wall Street run wild and let all these de-regulated companies to get us in this mess.
They love to go back and blame the democrats but does no one realize that the republicans have been in power for 8 years and have had control of the houses for 6? If they couldn't accomplish anything in 8 years what do the expect to do now?
lynchie
· 1 year ago
Actually the Repubs were in control of Congress for 12 years.
CarolAl
· 1 year ago
We all agree that there is no comparison between the vile attacks by McCain-Palin that incite mobs to violent outbursts and Obama-Biden calling McSame "erratic" or "uncertain." As for the ad about the Keating 5, even McCain knows it is recorded history. McCain is a desperate old man lacking both honor and integrity.
The MSM must stop pretending that "both sides are equally guilty" of negativism. I heard that same tune time after time yesterday from Wolf, Campbell, and others on MSNBC.
Let's do something. Call or email news the networks and newspapers. Write to the McCain campaign. Point it out to neighbors and friends. Spread the truth about Obama's "relationships" with Ayers, Rezko, Wright. Spread the truth about McCain and Liddy, Keating, Gramm, Davis, the birthday cruise with the con man, his voting record. Ignore Palin; make her irrelevent. Volunteer for the Obama campaign. Just don't talk; DO SOMETHING!
Spunky_Jitters
· 1 year ago
This is what it looks like right before the beast finally dies. I can feel it - the neanderthal knuckle-draggers will finally be banished back to the caves where they came from. The way you beat a bully is to stand up to his face and refuse to to take it anymore. And now, the real anger and racism is on naked display for all to see this time, not crouched in republican code words. When you see this in your real lives, people, make sure you tell them exactly what you think. Don't be a coward, call them on their BS right away.
I just called my local Secret Service office also to complain about the tone of the Angry McGrumpypants and Betty Boop Campaigns - I directed them to various youtube videos and newspaper reports. I highly encourage others to do the same and thank Cowboyneok for the excellent suggestion. They are not allowed by law to ignore this.
It is really disturbing the anger and hate the Mcain/palin campaign is stirring up. They seem to be thriving on it and are providing all kinds of fuel for the radicals. I have never seen such a dishonorable, appalling campaign. Our country needs to stand together in these numerous crisises and the republicans are pulling us apart. We CANNOT ALLOW these people to lead our nation. ENOUGH!!
katiec
· 1 year ago
E mail, blog all news media. I have done this numerous times and although I do not see where it has done any good, maybe if enough of us do?? Their bias, total leaning towards the right, refusal to report palin's church, anti American organization, Mccains fraud in religious debate and on and on and on is totally unfair. But, remember, they are owned by "big business"!!
EmGD
· 1 year ago
The sick thing is that by refusing to even tamp it down or release condemning statements to the behavior it looks as if they kind of want it to happen, if only a little bit.
"COOPER: There's also the question of ruling after this and bringing the country together. "
Up until the current administration, presidents of this country haven't "ruled," they've governed. Dictators rule, presidents govern.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Anderson Cooper has been disappointing me a lot, lately, in his supposed "coverage" of things.
phatso
· 1 year ago
The demos know damn well who will do the rioting and why and they are switching the blame for when it happens. If they had a few voters with some morals and intelligence they couldn't pull that crap.The rumor here in the Atlanta area is there'll be riots no matter who wins and guess who will do the rioting....get real!!!!!!!!!!
You're right, it would be very dramatic. And it would sink McCain for good, because he's now fighting for the moderate, middle of the road voters, and they're not going to vote for crazy shit like that.
If Obama were assassinated before the Election, Biden would win every state but Utah and the Dems would sweep in the Senate.
The rethugs won't lift a hand to him before the election and afterword it will be too late. He likely won't have much in the way of public exposure until his inaugeration on the 20th. After that he'll be in deep into his first 100 days. If they were going to bumb him off, they should have done it 18 months ago when. Maybe that's why they are so mad. They can't even bumb him off.
Especially resentment. The wealthy resent the new deal, Southerns resent the Civil War's outcome, Bigot's resent the civil rights movement, Fundies and social conservatives resent the growth in civil liberties, Nationalist/militarast resent the out come of the Vietnam war. In essence they resent what modern America has become. In other words they resent America. And they have no problem backing policies that undermine it.
The most important group is the wealthy elites. They provide seed money so that all the other groups can organize and grow.
Let's just hope that enough people are willing to stand up this year and put an end to this crap. We have far too many challenges as a nation to cater to these emotional adolescents.
The same things would happen at Wallace rallies in '68 that are happening at Palin raliies now, with the crowd getting angrier and angrier and even going after the press (though, at the Wallace rallies, there weren't many black reporters, so the Wallace supporters mainly yelled at the press for being "Jews.")
Check out Theodore White's "The Making of the President 1968" for a full description of a Wallace rally in Cicero, Ill., that resembled Palin's Florida rallies exactly.
Any study of the politics of real economists will show you that they mostly vote Democrat, yet the business networks have all these Wingnuts pushing their garbage out.
I wish somebody could get the economists together to demand that they start hiring reporters who have a realistic view of economics instead of the Supply Side garbage that is actually a joke among real economists.
country last.
therefore, arguably, they are intentionally continuing this mob baiting in order to incite violence against Obama. The authorities need to get on this now.
"Watch the tape of the guy screaming, "He's a terrorist!" McCain seems to shudder at that, he rolls his eyes... and I thought for a moment he'd admonish the man. But he didn't. And now he's selling the Ayres non-story full-time. Yes, yes, it's all he has. True enough: he no longer has his honor. But we are on the edge of some real serious craziness here and it would be nice if McCain did the right thing and told his more bloodthirsty supporters to go home and take a cold shower. But McCain hasn't done the right thing all year. His campaign is appalling, as the New York Times editorial board said today--and more, it is a national disgrace."
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/10/72...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqfedYAAGEI
McCain-Palin rally is like being at a Nazi rally with Palin as Hitler in a female body!
July 28, 2008: Killer targeted church for liberal views
August 15, 2008: Gunman murders Arkansas Democratic Party chairman
We're already there. 25 years of hate talk radio 24/7 has done it's job. Palin and McCain inciting their crowds to violence was the inevitable result.
The MSM thought that the hate talkers were harmless boobs appealing to the great uneducated masses, and were unwilling to see the similarities to 1930's Germany. Well, those brainwashed radio listeners and right wing nut jobs have guns, and they think God is telling them to kill the liberals to save the country.
Didn't this have more to do with the murderer's job loss than anything else? IIRC, this wasn't a politically-motivated crime.
GOPers know it's over.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/09...
That's right. When you politicians get people riled up for your own ends. Let's see...Iraq Invasion, part 1 & 2 for starters. Oh, and all the "talking points" which are just propaganda spilled among the population so you can get your own agenda through.
Now that it's all melting down and ready to blow up in your faces....Now you're saying whoa?
This is what happens with 30+ years of dumb, greedy, manipulative people at the helm who I believe have a personal hatred for the general population and treat them as suckers. Um, right wing ralk radio anyone? How much is Rush Limpballs getting paid on his new contract? Now we all have to suffer.
While Oliver Wendell Holmes brought up this very issue, he also made the point that all such examples are subject to "reasonable government intrusions". THIS government may not decide to interfere with the campaign of one of its own, but the greater and larger context of government of, by and for the people should stand up NOW and demand that this campaign cease and desist immediately!
Unless and until our own country will stand up for the beliefs on which we have been built, we will not only possibly lose an election and a candidate but the honor of our country as well. Such disgraceful conduct is hardly worthy of the adoration McCain seems to believe is his due and unless they stop this nonsense, they just might find themselves in court under very painful and difficult circumstances.
The real tragedy is that in 4 years this whole financial disaster will be blamed on Obama. Americans have the memory of a gnat and the next election will not only be more of the same but the added fuel of the depression which is coming. Keep also in mind how the Republicans have stonewalled, fillibustered and stopped the Dems in the past two years. That will get uglier, dirtier and more racist in its tone.
That said, I do have faith that at this point in time we just might see the Dems (AND Republicans) stand up to address the horrors that McCain is inflicting upon this nation for which he declares his love.
As for how this entire bail out/depression thing pans out, I doubt anyone will EVER blame Obama, at least up to this point in time. IF he manages to win (and I think he will do so and easily) how he decides to react to it will be what is written about. My faith thus far is that if ANYONE can figure this complex thing out, it will be Obama and his minions...at least let us all hope.
My neighbor just shouted at me for destroying the 12 McCain/Palin signs he shoved into my front lawn, he said by doing so i was breaking laws guaranteed by the Constitution. When he went inside i put a homemade Obama/Biden sign on his lawn. Can't wait to see how long it takes for a vessel in his head to explode.
When I lived in the midwest and the leaves started dropping my neighbor and I engaged in a running battle of the leaves. The lazy bastard used to blow his leaves in my yard when he thought I wasn't home. Needless to say, this did nothing to encourage "neighborly feelings".
Four years ago I had my own "battle of the lawns." My neighbor across the street had a huge, 4' by 8' Bush sign in his yard (an average size suburban lot) to counter my small Kerry sign.
This year, nothing. People are asking me why he doesn't have a McCain sign in his yard. How should I know? He doesn't talk to me cause I'm a liberal.
(by the way, good morning!)
And a good morning to you.
It is truly a sorry show that someone age 72 is acting like my youngest nephew of 12, at least at that age you can still spank him!
It's nuts that McBush is even on the stage. It really is. It's such a triumph of hype and marketing over substance. That such a nasty, mean spirited, self serving bozo is even a candidate at this beyond precarious time historically really speaks to the degradation of any kind of vision for the future of this country by the people who think he's a viable option for the presidency.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912...
from the article:
Over the years, John McCain has demonstrated a streak of anger so nasty that even his former flacks make no effort to spin it away. "If I tried to convince you he does not have a temper, you should hang up on me and ridicule me in print," says Dan Schnur, who served as McCain's press man during the 2000 campaign. Even McCain admits to an "immature and unprofessional reaction to slights" that is "little changed from the reactions to such provocations I had as a schoolboy."
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More recently, McCain's jokes have heightened tensions with Iran. The senator once cautioned that "the world's only superpower . . . should never make idle threats" — but that didn't stop him from rewriting the lyrics to a famous Beach Boys tune. In April 2007, when a voter at a town-hall session asked him about his policy toward Tehran, McCain responded by singing, "bomb bomb bomb" Iran. The loose talk was meant to incite the GOP base, but it also aggravated relations with Iran, whose foreign minister condemned McCain's "jokes about genocide" as a testament to his "disturbed state of mind" and "warmongering approach to foreign policy."
He is a MISOGYNIST and a wretched RACIST...why aren't the MSM discussing his own involvement with his long time love for that Facist group to which he belongs?
By the way, I do believe that the term "upstart" was meant for someone under the age of 30, not a middle aged man of means.
http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/field_offices.shtml
Contact your field office and ask them to put pressure on their campaign to TONE IT DOWN! Its irresponsible, dishonorable and DANGEROUS to get their crazy supporters to scream death threats at sitting U.S. Senators!
Damn logic!
Off to call anyway...
I miss him too, I'd love to hear his comments on all this...
He should just go clear brush in Crawford like he has done for his entire Presidency.
We now see a man who understands that he will be relegated to the dustbin of history along with Herbert Hoover. The great legacy that he hoped for himself? Gone with the wind and our retirement funds. All those lives lost, and money down the rathole of Iraq, and for what?
We can't get rid of him soon enough.
So has his side kick.
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/X/e/1/m...
McCain "I wish I could quit you."
What kind of leader could McCain possibly be, when he would sacrifice all decency in fair play simply to get elected. That only tells us that, as president, he would do whatever he wants, whatever the cost. That is when rights are violated and rules are not followed for someone's idea of what needs to get done. That kind of 'maverick' attitude we don't need. They talk about being mavericks as being a good thing, but in his case, it has contributed to let Wall Street run wild and let all these de-regulated companies to get us in this mess.
They love to go back and blame the democrats but does no one realize that the republicans have been in power for 8 years and have had control of the houses for 6? If they couldn't accomplish anything in 8 years what do the expect to do now?
The MSM must stop pretending that "both sides are equally guilty" of negativism. I heard that same tune time after time yesterday from Wolf, Campbell, and others on MSNBC.
Let's do something. Call or email news the networks and newspapers. Write to the McCain campaign. Point it out to neighbors and friends. Spread the truth about Obama's "relationships" with Ayers, Rezko, Wright. Spread the truth about McCain and Liddy, Keating, Gramm, Davis, the birthday cruise with the con man, his voting record. Ignore Palin; make her irrelevent. Volunteer for the Obama campaign. Just don't talk; DO SOMETHING!
http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/field_offices.shtml
stirring up. They seem to be thriving on it and are providing all
kinds of fuel for the radicals.
I have never seen such a dishonorable, appalling campaign.
Our country needs to stand together in these numerous
crisises and the republicans are pulling us apart.
We CANNOT ALLOW these people to lead our nation.
ENOUGH!!
I have done this numerous times and although I do not see where
it has done any good, maybe if enough of us do??
Their bias, total leaning towards the right, refusal to report
palin's church, anti American organization, Mccains fraud
in religious debate and on and on and on is totally unfair.
But, remember, they are owned by "big business"!!
http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
Up until the current administration, presidents of this country haven't "ruled," they've governed. Dictators rule, presidents govern.