AMERICAblog: Dear Hillary: What happens if you <i>do</i> win?
grandma
· 1 year ago
What happens if Hillary does (God forbid) win the nomination?
MoreWar McCain will be President.
AngelaChanning
· 1 year ago
Jacki, you bring up some great points. I think Hillary has "screwed the pooch". If she managed to become the nominee, I would still vote for her...but I would not contribute to her campaign. I think the only way she can get the nomination without offending anyone is if we find out something so horrible about Obama....you know....like something involving a girl scout...that it would be logical to go to her. I seriously doubt that would happen.
One can never be sure of motives but I get the sense that the Clintons do want a political dynasty just out of their own egos. Hillary has already made history as the only First Lady (so far) to be elected Senator. That isn't too shabby if you ask me. Now, however, people will be happy to see her kicked to the curb, no matter how she puts on a gracious act after ending her campaign. Thank you for listening.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Clinton backer circulates plan for GOP attack on Obama
In an apparent attempt to discredit Barack Obama, a high-ranking union official supporting Hillary Clinton is circulating a plan for a hypothetical Republican attack based on the Illinois senator's past association with 1960s radicals Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, according to the web site The Huffington Post. Three-page emailed essay by Rick Sloan, communications director for the International Association of Machinists as Aerospace Workers (IAMAW), has been distributed to union leaders and Democratic operatives, according to web report. Sloan told the Huffington Post that the paper is his best guess at the plans of Republican operative Karl Rove, who is an informal adviser to the John McCain campaign. The title of Sloan's paper is: "What Is Rove Up To?"
Clinton cannot and will not get the nomination. The Superdelegates know that. The game is over, Clinton cannot recognize or accept the brutal fact of failiure.
Tick tock goes the clock on her campaign's demise.
Senator of New York will have to suffice.
Ginger_FL
· 1 year ago
I won't vote for Hillary....even if she manipulates a "win" somehow. Edwards still has his delegates and hasn't given them to anyone....YET. I know they're not much, but they are out there.
Hillary has no mathematical way of winning and the MSM won't talk about that...they keep talking about the "race" as if both have a chance of winning. Obama IS the nominee Hillary....get over your selfish self already and bow out for crying out loud. Take your DLC corporate Wh*res with you !!
Hack
· 1 year ago
I CANNOT WAIT until the morning sun rises on the Succubus Hillary and disintegrates her and her mindless goosesteppers back into the underworld where they all rightfully belong. Fornicating with each other for eternity.
grandma
· 1 year ago
A top expert on China has resigned as an informal adviser to Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign in the wake of the candidate's increasingly harsh anti-China rhetoric.
Richard Baum, a political science professor at the Center for Chinese Studies at UCLA, resigned in light of what he called “grossly misguided accusations” made by Clinton about China.
“As a lifelong Democrat, it saddens me that Sen. Clinton has chosen to take the low road in her effort to gain our party’s presidential nomination,” Baum said.....
“Our reasoning was that while China certainly bears a share of responsibility for these (and other) problems, much (if not most) of the blame, at least on the economic issues, lies elsewhere,” Baum wrote in an e-mail. He attributed the problems, at least in part, to America’s high level of consumption, deficit spending and selective trade protectionism.
What I wanted to say about Clinton/Obama: MoveOn or the bitter people: Clinton won upto now in states that are left-leaning, in which democrats tend to have a majority during a presidential vote. I guess Clinton is really interested in driving a bit to the right to get some votes there. I mean u can insinuate that shes only interested in populism. But take buzzflash for example: if it was concerning the share of the votes in liberal states, the progressives didnt pay any respect to Hillaary in these terms. Yeah perhaps shes just bitter thus. But buzzflash has 10 or 11 articles out on the front page today that merely do Hillary bashing. That is simply absurd and they dont do any favor to the idea of progress. Its becoming an absolutely hyped election which is turning hopelessly personal.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
In theory, community organizing provides a way to merge various strategies for neighborhood empowerment. Organizing begins with the premise that (1) the problems facing inner-city communities do not result from a lack of effective solutions, but from a lack of power to implement these solutions; (2) that the only way for communities to build long-term power is by organizing people and money around a common vision; and (3) that a viable organization can only be achieved if a broadly based indigenous leadership — and not one or two charismatic leaders — can knit together the diverse interests of their local institutions.
This means bringing together churches, block clubs, parent groups and any other institutions in a given community to pay dues, hire organizers, conduct research, develop leadership, hold rallies and education campaigns, and begin drawing up plans on a whole range of issues — jobs, education, crime, etc. Once such a vehicle is formed, it holds the power to make politicians, agencies and corporations more responsive to community needs. Equally important, it enables people to break their crippling isolation from each other, to reshape their mutual values and expectations and rediscover the possibilities of acting collaboratively — the prerequisites of any successful self-help initiative.
By using this approach, the Developing Communities Project and other organizations in Chicago's inner city have achieved some impressive results. Schools have been made more accountable-Job training programs have been established; housing has been renovated and built; city services have been provided; parks have been refurbished; and crime and drug problems have been curtailed. Additionally, plain folk have been able to access the levers of power, and a sophisticated pool of local civic leadership has been developed.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Hillary might be able to carry the Reagan Democrats. Other than them, not many Democrats are around who would vote for the New Divider.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Good overview of Obama's pre-State Senate Experience:
Hillary might be able to carry the Reagan Democrats. Other than them, not many Democrats are around who would vote for the New Divider.
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Yeah, that's the problem.
She's trying to build a coalition of dying voter blocs.
Even if she were to win, which doesn't seem likely, it would absolutely kill the Democrats chances for building a future majority.
PeteWa
· 1 year ago
Hillary has been a disaster. A complete disaster. An enabler of almost all of the Bush policies. A fool and a tool. Focusing her energy on a Flag burning amendment, with the attempt to squash free speech on an issue that is non-existent in the first place. Focusing on video game violence while she further enables the ongoing violence in Iraq. She focuses on entertainment but turns a blind eye to reality. So Bush League...
mike31c
· 1 year ago
Well, it's not likely MoveOn is going to suddenly switch sides and start propping old and senile McCain. :p
I do hope when Senator Obama wins, the American people will go to the polls and make damn sure Old and Senile McCain and the continued policies of presidential failure monkey king bush do NOT make it back into the White House.
Had the American people stood up to Monkey King Bush in 2004, we would not be in the situation we are in right now.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Obama hits the rails
PHILADELPHIA -- He has traveled by plane, bus and even on foot. But Sen. Barack Obama is undertaking a new mode of transportation today as he campaigns across southeast Pennsylvania by train.
As he boarded the 1930 antique "Georgia 300" lounge car, the Illinois Democrat tentatively asked whether could pull blow the train's horn.
"Woo, woo," the train's whistle responded to his tug.
And with that, Obama's campaign train pulled out of the station at 11:06 a.m.
The day's 100-mile "whistle stop" tour, dubbed the "On Track for Change," will end with a rally at the state capitol in Harrisburg this evening.
Along the way, he will make numerous stops, including "visibility slow rolls" to greet voters and allow for better photos by local papers and television stations.
The trip will initially run along the Main Line, a critical area in Tuesday's primary that includes the western suburbs of Philadelphia.
With the media for a change traveling in front of Obama, his car is at the back of the train, complete with red, white and blue bunting and a custom-made, lit campaign logo on the very back.
Obama is traveling with his Pennsylvania pal Sen. Bob Casey, as well as Paul Tewes, his Pennsylvania state director and a man who led Obama's winning Iowa caucus campaign.
i have no idea what, exactly, Obama did as a community organizer. the fact that he undertook that work when he probably could've gotten some high-paying, high profile corporate/political job is one of the things i admire about him.
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i have no idea what, exactly, Obama did as a community organizer. the fact that he undertook that work when he probably could've gotten some high-paying, high profile corporate/political job is one of the things i admire about him.
Hillary only thinks about the next 10 minutes. She's a Romneyite to the bone
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Anyway, Hillary's MoveOn and Netroots comments were the Democratic version of McCain's "agents of intolerance" speech.
She picked a fight with the party's base.
Stick a fork in her. She's done.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
thank you BushBites...
motherlode...you still here? are the questions in your head still bothering you?
Motherlode
· 1 year ago
I'm back. I was posting at my own site. Yes, they bother me. Yesterday was the fourth anniversary of my blog, and I can hardly believe that you guys are going to nominate an inexperienced, untested guy who you only really know through his own self-serving statements and books. You don't have the first idea how he's going to govern. You only know how he campaigns, and the record of those campaigns is not in line with the "not-politics-as-usual" and unity shtick. Your CDS is what's dividing the party, not Hillary.
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
First, I'll vote for Hillary Clinton if she is the nominee.
But this crap argument that we don't know what we'll get with Obama is bullshit. We DO know what we'll get from Clinton and McCain and that is certainly far from my first choice. Rather than take some understanding about the mood of the American people, the other candidates act like their personal entitlement is being violated - and the worst line to use is the claim that we cannot have someone "untested" because only with more-of-the-same can we be sure of having . . .well. . .more-of-the-same.
The Bush Administration has done so much to erode confidence in this country on every level. Hillary might understand that to some degree, and I'm glad she does, but I don't have the certainty that she'll be able to instill confidence in her Administration.
TomJoad
· 1 year ago
Someone please explain to me...I keep hearing, and reading, that Obama has it sewn up (unless superdelagates vote against all other indicators, like the will of the people, states won, delegates, etc.) and Hillary is out (good riddance ) mathematically.
So how come in CNN (Situation room...sheesh) and other news outlets, they are all acting as if she has, almost as if she is ahead or it is neck and neck. Is it horserace (or horesrace...) journalism, they NEED for it not to be over, or are we wrong? Blitzer on som presentation shows Clinton "Slightly ahead "in delegates.
What is going on? Has Obama essentially clinched it or not?
Eyeball_Kid
· 1 year ago
The corporate media gets its name from "corporation." Corporations' sole reason for existence is to make money for its shareholders. Corporations have no soul, no conscience. Corporate boards direct their employees do increase profits, no matter what. The Corporate media sets up strategies and tactics to justify and promote their existence. Tactically, that means getting viewers and ad revenues. Creating the myth that Hillary can still win, repeated incessantly, also creates a reason for sustained viewership. Creating a dramatic script, fictional if necessary, fulfills that tactical end. Keeping HRC in the mythical race for the nomination keeps the drama intact, which enhances profit taking.
It's all about the money. ABC plays the game as well as FoxNews.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Not to long from now the people will vote and we will move on to a better America under President Obama. Hillary will only have herself, her DINO loyalists, her creepy, squeaky-voiced daughter and the buffoon she married.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
TomJoad
I am also confused. I have just given up to listening to the talking heads. I check this site for numbers.
I won't be a bit surprised if the superdelegates start stepping up to the proverbial plate. Dem netroots raises a ot of money for a lot of different candidates.
Good-bye Hill and Bill!
gerbilsbite
· 1 year ago
There is a strategy that works with this tactic. It's tougher to manage than the other way, but it's possible.
Basically, Hillary still has access to a pretty good donor network beyond the netroots. She wouldn't post nearly the receipts of a netroots-supported nominee, but she'd be able to at least post 150% of McCain's totals. Compared to her, his fundraising is pretty anemic (though, compared to Obama, it's almost a non-factor). She would like the parallel structure to the party on her side, but she can likely manage to eke out a narrow win with just the existing party apparatus and her own campaign structure.
Difficult, but not impossible.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
So how come in CNN (Situation room...sheesh) and other news outlets, they are all acting as if she has, almost as if she is ahead or it is neck and neck.
The same reason Stephie and fat bore Gibson acted as if Obama was guilty of some treasonous act...the maintenance of the established elite. Just because many of these clowns have been forced to maintain blogs by their corporate masters doesn't mean they've grasped the essence of the digital leveling. They simply know enough to cover for each other as competing nets did for the ABC fiasco Wednesday evening. Stephie might give McStain a few tough questions tomorrow but definitely no pertinent follow-ups and lots and lots of maverick happy talk. They've gotten away with these TV games for more than 40 years and with intense unregulated control for the last 22 years, so what would make anyone imagine the nets could know how to change themselves???
firebrand
· 1 year ago
The Philadelphia Tribune and other local papers have been blasting ABC (All Bullshit Channel) .
Hillary has been a disaster. A complete disaster. An enabler of almost all of the Bush policies. A fool and a tool. Focusing her energy on a Flag burning amendment, with the attempt to squash free speech on an issue that is non-existent in the first place. Focusing on video game violence while she further enables the ongoing violence in Iraq. She focuses on entertainment but turns a blind eye to reality. So Bush League...
So your super working class hero, Mr.Obama, what did he do despite criticizing the bitter people? The old communist comrade? On every question the second in every debate? meanwhile celebrated for controlling msm? And having produced stop signs for Hillary by so called progressives. btw, obamas facial expressions werent so smart during the last debate. and what did u want to get? tell me! 7 years of Bushs with every possible national circus that was possible. What else did u expect than children care? And btw again, it wasnt mr.obama whos suddenly enforcing children health insurance but the government accountability office.
ccokz
· 1 year ago
my grandma was faster?
Eyeball_Kid
· 1 year ago
Isn't it now clear that Hillary is promoting a Democratic loss in November so that she can run in 2012? What is so difficult about making this conclusion at this time? She's dismissing the most promising part of the Democratic movement for corporatist support. She is alienating hundreds of thousands of activists, and potentially tens of millions of dollars in donations for HER cause if she were to become the nominee. How crazy her actions seem. Except if she's really running a strategic campaign to elect McCain because she can't beat Obama.
By her overall behavior in the public sphere (also see http://tammybruce.com/2007/02/hillary_in_her_ow...), she is displaying a delusional belief that her efforts at wholesale destruction of a mass political movement at the roots of her own party will elevate her to the Oval Office in five years. She can only envision that, in the near future, the Democratic Party base of activists will be irrelevant, and that the country will be governed solely by a partnership between government and the corporate elite, and that any crumbs tossed to the common citizen will only be a tactical maneuver to quell massive civil unrest and possible rebellion.
That's what HRC is all about.
ccokz
· 1 year ago
Isn't it now clear that Hillary is promoting a Democratic loss in November so that she can run in 2012?
your hideous insinuations are so terribly wrong its shockign. her husband won 2 elections in a row. he stopped poppy bush from a second term. he knocked out dole. what is obama doing in comparison? meager attempts to smear the intentions of the opponent. Of the own party
sittenpretty
· 1 year ago
Eyeball_Kid 1 minute ago correct my friend CORPORATISM= FASCISM pure and simple folks ...WIKI it
ccokz
· 1 year ago
It's all about the money. ABC plays the game as well as FoxNews.
total Dukakis control huh?
Eyeball_Kid
· 1 year ago
Dukakis??
I recall that Dukakis was railroaded on a tank, that his handlers wanted to so tightly control his every move, ANY image that took him out of his scripted element was major news. That's what made the tank/helmet picture so tragically precious.
Besides, Dukakis so really bad at doing Rod Serling imitations, it really WAS Twilight Zone when he was on the stump.
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
Hil is NOT going to win! If for whatever reasons the so-called "super-delegates" are conned into giving her a victory, it will destroy the Democratic party and there will be rioting in the streets the likes of which has not been seen in America. Hillary needs to GET OUT before she embarrasses herself, her party, and the feminists who support her any further than she already has. She needs to get out now for her own good or does she really want to drive people to getting the hook to drag her off-stage. Shes done: stick a fork in her!
saml
· 1 year ago
well stated: thank yoy
Sage24
· 1 year ago
A very good question Hillary has managed a very badly run campaign, made sure she trampled on many toes, and if she does indeed win (okay, it will be a miracle), how the heck does she expect to unite the party, and get support from groups like Moveon? She is a big spoiler, very selfish and divisive.
We do not need Rovian style tactics from our nominee, and it would be a misfortune for the Dems to elect her.
No more Bushs and Clintons in the WH.
magster
· 1 year ago
Don't forget about what she'll do about having African Americans voting for her if she has superdelegates overturn the nomination of a African American candidate after having repeatedly having surrogates make subtly racist comments.
PhilipGraham
· 1 year ago
Here's what worries me if Clinton loses--she'll pull a Lieberman and run as an independent. She's certainly capable of it. It almost seems as if she's setting up that argument--"The Democratic Party has changed, so I will leave it and run on my own." Why else diss folks she'd need in a general election? And she certainly seems to have Sen. Lieberman's bitter psychological profile.
kipper
· 1 year ago
(sigh) I want this to end as much as anyone... we need a democrat in the white house .. WHAT EVER Democrat... BUT , if move on and the netroots are so powerful, wouldn't we be on the second term of the Kerry , or for that matter the first term of the Lieberman /obama white house. Its a sign of the depth of knowledge of all the Obama-ites that " hell no we wont vote for Hillary"..... its their way or the highway. Selfish to the end....
Belinda
· 1 year ago
What's absurd is that even though they are losing big time, the Hillbots are so petty and vengeful. In the most recent polls, the vast majority of Obama supporters have vowed to support Hillary if she wins the nomination. But turn the tables and if Obama wins the nomination, a huge number of spiteful Billary supporters say they will vote for McCain. These people really sicken me with their political games. They seem more at home in the GOP. We need to stand together as Democrats.
kipper
· 1 year ago
wow, there are two opposite posts... Senator Obama himself said he did not think his voters would vote for Hillary... Its the end fighting that HAS to stop. I think we will ALL get behind which ever one wins .. McCain is four more years of Bush... eyes on the prize people, eyes on the prize
kipper
· 1 year ago
sorry IN fighting, not end... sorry
Belinda
· 1 year ago
What I constantly have to ask myself is could I really stomach supporting the values Hillary Clinton has displayed? After she photo-shopped Obama's skin color and nose in a negative ad to stir up racist hatred, I had to admit I could never support her. http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/why-is-obama...
After Billy boy Clinton guest-hosted the Rush Limbaugh program in order to attack fellow Democrats, I realized I could never support another Clinton again. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
The Clintons have shown time and time again that they are immoral slime willing to do anything in their drive to procure power. I will never support either of them again in any political office.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Some of the newly registered Democrats like myself, an independent of 34 years, have registered solely for the purpose of voting for Barack Obama in our states' primaries, to win him as many delegates as we can and to give him as many popular votes as we can. If Hillary does win, I will be very quick to re-register as an independent and I will sit at home in November. I will continue to support MoveOn.org and the ACLU but I will have given up on the Democratic Party as a voice for the grass and netroots.
Belinda
· 1 year ago
If Hillary does win, I will be very quick to re-register as an independent and I will sit at home in November.
You mean if she steals it. Statistically speaking, she can't win. Almost everyone I know feels the same way. If Obama is not given the nomination he rightfully deserves, we will hand the Presidency to McCain and the DLC can go to hell. People are sick of the bitter partisanship of the Clintons.
Happy_Housewife
· 1 year ago
If Hillary wins, Dems lose. Plain and simple.
I'm not a Hillary hater, I'm just realistic: the cons and the corporate media have been accumulating dirt on the Clintons for years. They have that campaign all lined up - and besides, they know there's enough angry white males and women-who-hate-other-women out there to be sure to vote for anyone but her - and those people vote.
nsr
· 1 year ago
I wish the support of the netroots counted for more with Tester and Webb. They both voted to condemn MoveOn over "General Betrayus".
Daniel73
· 1 year ago
Clinton's have been winning elections a long time without the netroots help and frankly with the vile vitriol that you have thrown at her who needs you.
Your_Uncle_Bastard
· 1 year ago
Mesage to Hillary Clinton - EPU'd from previous thread:
YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A TWO-BIT CORPORATE WHORE FUCKING CUNT. Just. Get. OUT!!!!!
Motherlode
· 1 year ago
Hack -- think that kind of sentiment is the way to unify the Democratic Party? "Succubus"? "Mindless goosesteppers?"
Okay, show me some mind, here. Name something Obama actually accomplished as a community organizer, something he did that made people's lives better. I keep getting crickets when I ask my BO-supporting friends. And I'd sincerely like to put that question in my head to rest, if it's possible.
Motherlode
· 1 year ago
Well now, I'd say that since roughly half the Democratic Party prefers Hillary to Obama, and since he and his supporters have gone out of their way to attack her character, belittle her record, and generally demonstrate deep-seated disdain for women and lunch-bucket Democrats, you might wonder the same thing about Barack. How, exactly, do you figure that suggesting that Hillary is "not a real Dem" is reverberating among HER voters? Do you think we won't remember your (MoveOn and "netroots") silence in the face of the media bashing she received in the first 18 or 19 debates and your hypocritical outrage now that BO has had just a TASTE of what she's received for the past 16 or so years? It seems to us as if you Obama adherents are more determined to destroy the Clintons and their legacy than to unite the Democratic Party and win the GE.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
Motherlode,
Hillary Clinton has no legacy other than a couple of things she has done as Senator of New York, just as Laura Bush has no legacy. Bill Clinton has the legacy.
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MoreWar McCain will be President.
One can never be sure of motives but I get the sense that the Clintons do want a political dynasty just out of their own egos. Hillary has already made history as the only First Lady (so far) to be elected Senator. That isn't too shabby if you ask me. Now, however, people will be happy to see her kicked to the curb, no matter how she puts on a gracious act after ending her campaign. Thank you for listening.
In an apparent attempt to discredit Barack Obama, a high-ranking union official supporting Hillary Clinton is circulating a plan for a hypothetical Republican attack based on the Illinois senator's past association with 1960s radicals Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, according to the web site The Huffington Post.
Three-page emailed essay by Rick Sloan, communications director for the International Association of Machinists as Aerospace Workers (IAMAW), has been distributed to union leaders and Democratic operatives, according to web report.
Sloan told the Huffington Post that the paper is his best guess at the plans of Republican operative Karl Rove, who is an informal adviser to the John McCain campaign. The
title of Sloan's paper is: "What Is Rove Up To?"
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/18/clinto...
I'll never support McCain, but if Hillary wins, it'll be by foul play. How can you support that?
"To dismiss Move On is to dismiss the large block of people that comprise it."
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2008_04_13_archive....
Tick tock goes the clock on her campaign's demise.
Senator of New York will have to suffice.
Edwards still has his delegates and hasn't given them to anyone....YET.
I know they're not much, but they are out there.
Hillary has no mathematical way of winning and the MSM won't talk about that...they keep talking about the "race" as if both have a chance of winning.
Obama IS the nominee Hillary....get over your selfish self already and bow out for crying out loud. Take your DLC corporate Wh*res with you !!
Richard Baum, a political science professor at the Center for Chinese Studies at UCLA, resigned in light of what he called “grossly misguided accusations” made by Clinton about China.
“As a lifelong Democrat, it saddens me that Sen. Clinton has chosen to take the low road in her effort to gain our party’s presidential nomination,” Baum said.....
“Our reasoning was that while China certainly bears a share of responsibility for these (and other) problems, much (if not most) of the blame, at least on the economic issues, lies elsewhere,” Baum wrote in an e-mail. He attributed the problems, at least in part, to America’s high level of consumption, deficit spending and selective trade protectionism.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9719....
Her rich donors are maxed out too.
Nobody to knock on doors; nobody to make small donations.
Not to mention African-Americans sitting on their hands and every Red State Dem in the country telling her: "Please don't come here."
Heck, the DNC doesn't even like her.
She's done.
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I'm no fan of China, but he's got that right.
Philadelphia Obama Rally
http://cbs3.com/video/?id=55802
YES WE CAN!!!!!
name one thing Hillary Clinton is doing to unify the democratic party right now.
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008/04/president-i...
What I wanted to say about Clinton/Obama: MoveOn or the bitter people: Clinton won upto now in states that are left-leaning, in which democrats tend to have a majority during a presidential vote. I guess Clinton is really interested in driving a bit to the right to get some votes there. I mean u can insinuate that shes only interested in populism. But take buzzflash for example: if it was concerning the share of the votes in liberal states, the progressives didnt pay any respect to Hillaary in these terms. Yeah perhaps shes just bitter thus. But buzzflash has 10 or 11 articles out on the front page today that merely do Hillary bashing. That is simply absurd and they dont do any favor to the idea of progress. Its becoming an absolutely hyped election which is turning hopelessly personal.
This means bringing together churches, block clubs, parent groups and any other institutions in a given community to pay dues, hire organizers, conduct research, develop leadership, hold rallies and education campaigns, and begin drawing up plans on a whole range of issues — jobs, education, crime, etc. Once such a vehicle is formed, it holds the power to make politicians, agencies and corporations more responsive to community needs. Equally important, it enables people to break their crippling isolation from each other, to reshape their mutual values and expectations and rediscover the possibilities of acting collaboratively — the prerequisites of any successful self-help initiative.
By using this approach, the Developing Communities Project and other organizations in Chicago's inner city have achieved some impressive results. Schools have been made more accountable-Job training programs have been established; housing has been renovated and built; city services have been provided; parks have been refurbished; and crime and drug problems have been curtailed. Additionally, plain folk have been able to access the levers of power, and a sophisticated pool of local civic leadership has been developed.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/du...
Hillary might be able to carry the Reagan Democrats. Other than them, not many Democrats are around who would vote for the New Divider.
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Yeah, that's the problem.
She's trying to build a coalition of dying voter blocs.
Even if she were to win, which doesn't seem likely, it would absolutely kill the Democrats chances for building a future majority.
I do hope when Senator Obama wins, the American people will go to the polls and make damn sure Old and Senile McCain and the continued policies of presidential failure monkey king bush do NOT make it back into the White House.
Had the American people stood up to Monkey King Bush in 2004, we would not be in the situation we are in right now.
PHILADELPHIA -- He has traveled by plane, bus and even on foot. But Sen. Barack Obama is undertaking a new mode of transportation today as he campaigns across southeast Pennsylvania by train.
As he boarded the 1930 antique "Georgia 300" lounge car, the Illinois Democrat tentatively asked whether could pull blow the train's horn.
"Woo, woo," the train's whistle responded to his tug.
And with that, Obama's campaign train pulled out of the station at 11:06 a.m.
The day's 100-mile "whistle stop" tour, dubbed the "On Track for Change," will end with a rally at the state capitol in Harrisburg this evening.
Along the way, he will make numerous stops, including "visibility slow rolls" to greet voters and allow for better photos by local papers and television stations.
The trip will initially run along the Main Line, a critical area in Tuesday's primary that includes the western suburbs of Philadelphia.
With the media for a change traveling in front of Obama, his car is at the back of the train, complete with red, white and blue bunting and a custom-made, lit campaign logo on the very back.
Obama is traveling with his Pennsylvania pal Sen. Bob Casey, as well as Paul Tewes, his Pennsylvania state director and a man who led Obama's winning Iowa caucus campaign.
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog...
Woooooooo Wooooooooo GOOOOOOOOO Bama !!
http://cbs3.com/video/?id=55802@kyw.dayport.com
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i have no idea what, exactly, Obama did as a community organizer. the fact that he undertook that work when he probably could've gotten some high-paying, high profile corporate/political job is one of the things i admire about him.
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Read these clips and you will have an idea:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/du...
all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue !!!
She picked a fight with the party's base.
Stick a fork in her. She's done.
motherlode...you still here? are the questions in your head still bothering you?
But this crap argument that we don't know what we'll get with Obama is bullshit. We DO know what we'll get from Clinton and McCain and that is certainly far from my first choice. Rather than take some understanding about the mood of the American people, the other candidates act like their personal entitlement is being violated - and the worst line to use is the claim that we cannot have someone "untested" because only with more-of-the-same can we be sure of having . . .well. . .more-of-the-same.
The Bush Administration has done so much to erode confidence in this country on every level. Hillary might understand that to some degree, and I'm glad she does, but I don't have the certainty that she'll be able to instill confidence in her Administration.
So how come in CNN (Situation room...sheesh) and other news outlets, they are all acting as if she has, almost as if she is ahead or it is neck and neck. Is it horserace (or horesrace...) journalism, they NEED for it not to be over, or are we wrong? Blitzer on som presentation shows Clinton "Slightly ahead "in delegates.
What is going on? Has Obama essentially clinched it or not?
It's all about the money. ABC plays the game as well as FoxNews.
Hillary will only have herself, her DINO loyalists, her creepy, squeaky-voiced daughter and the buffoon she married.
I am also confused. I have just given up to listening to the talking heads. I check this site for numbers.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pr...
Good-bye Hill and Bill!
Basically, Hillary still has access to a pretty good donor network beyond the netroots. She wouldn't post nearly the receipts of a netroots-supported nominee, but she'd be able to at least post 150% of McCain's totals. Compared to her, his fundraising is pretty anemic (though, compared to Obama, it's almost a non-factor). She would like the parallel structure to the party on her side, but she can likely manage to eke out a narrow win with just the existing party apparatus and her own campaign structure.
Difficult, but not impossible.
The same reason Stephie and fat bore Gibson acted as if Obama was guilty of some treasonous act...the maintenance of the established elite.
Just because many of these clowns have been forced to maintain blogs by their corporate masters doesn't mean they've grasped the essence of the digital leveling.
They simply know enough to cover for each other as competing nets did for the ABC fiasco Wednesday evening.
Stephie might give McStain a few tough questions tomorrow but definitely no pertinent follow-ups and lots and lots of maverick happy talk.
They've gotten away with these TV games for more than 40 years and with intense unregulated control for the last 22 years, so what would make anyone imagine the nets could know how to change themselves???
Cuz Philly loves Obama. Pardon this repost:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUkyvpA_a8
So your super working class hero, Mr.Obama, what did he do despite criticizing the bitter people? The old communist comrade? On every question the second in every debate? meanwhile celebrated for controlling msm? And having produced stop signs for Hillary by so called progressives. btw, obamas facial expressions werent so smart during the last debate. and what did u want to get? tell me! 7 years of Bushs with every possible national circus that was possible. What else did u expect than children care? And btw again, it wasnt mr.obama whos suddenly enforcing children health insurance but the government accountability office.
By her overall behavior in the public sphere (also see http://tammybruce.com/2007/02/hillary_in_her_ow...), she is displaying a delusional belief that her efforts at wholesale destruction of a mass political movement at the roots of her own party will elevate her to the Oval Office in five years. She can only envision that, in the near future, the Democratic Party base of activists will be irrelevant, and that the country will be governed solely by a partnership between government and the corporate elite, and that any crumbs tossed to the common citizen will only be a tactical maneuver to quell massive civil unrest and possible rebellion.
That's what HRC is all about.
your hideous insinuations are so terribly wrong its shockign. her husband won 2 elections in a row. he stopped poppy bush from a second term. he knocked out dole. what is obama doing in comparison? meager attempts to smear the intentions of the opponent. Of the own party
correct my friend
CORPORATISM= FASCISM pure and simple folks ...WIKI it
total Dukakis control huh?
I recall that Dukakis was railroaded on a tank, that his handlers wanted to so tightly control his every move, ANY image that took him out of his scripted element was major news. That's what made the tank/helmet picture so tragically precious.
Besides, Dukakis so really bad at doing Rod Serling imitations, it really WAS Twilight Zone when he was on the stump.
Hillary needs to GET OUT before she embarrasses herself, her party, and the feminists who support her any further than she already has. She needs to get out now for her own good or does she really want to drive people to getting the hook to drag her off-stage.
Shes done: stick a fork in her!
Hillary has managed a very badly run campaign, made sure she trampled on many toes, and if she does indeed win (okay, it will be a miracle), how the heck does she expect to unite the party, and get support from groups like Moveon?
She is a big spoiler, very selfish and divisive.
We do not need Rovian style tactics from our nominee, and it would be
a misfortune for the Dems to elect her.
No more Bushs and Clintons in the WH.
Its a sign of the depth of knowledge of all the Obama-ites that " hell no we wont vote for Hillary"..... its their way or the highway. Selfish to the end....
After Billy boy Clinton guest-hosted the Rush Limbaugh program in order to attack fellow Democrats, I realized I could never support another Clinton again. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
The Clintons have shown time and time again that they are immoral slime willing to do anything in their drive to procure power. I will never support either of them again in any political office.
You mean if she steals it. Statistically speaking, she can't win. Almost everyone I know feels the same way. If Obama is not given the nomination he rightfully deserves, we will hand the Presidency to McCain and the DLC can go to hell. People are sick of the bitter partisanship of the Clintons.
I'm not a Hillary hater, I'm just realistic: the cons and the corporate media have been accumulating dirt on the Clintons for years. They have that campaign all lined up - and besides, they know there's enough angry white males and women-who-hate-other-women out there to be sure to vote for anyone but her - and those people vote.
YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A TWO-BIT CORPORATE WHORE FUCKING CUNT. Just. Get. OUT!!!!!
Okay, show me some mind, here. Name something Obama actually accomplished as a community organizer, something he did that made people's lives better. I keep getting crickets when I ask my BO-supporting friends. And I'd sincerely like to put that question in my head to rest, if it's possible.
Hillary Clinton has no legacy other than a couple of things she has done as Senator of New York, just as Laura Bush has no legacy. Bill Clinton has the legacy.