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AMERICAblog: Democratic Debate Open Thread

  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    Watch for Billary to compliment McCain every few seconds. She is utterly shameless.
  • alfannaan · 1 year ago
    is this being streamed live on the web? anyone have a link. doesnt seem to be on my local abc news either - is it a cable channel? - sorry Im a bit media challenged
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    Yes, it is being webcast. I don't have a tv. Here: http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/
  • Jessica54 · 1 year ago
    I live in California. Apparently I have to wait THREE HOURS to watch this debate??!?! ABC sucks.
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    God, Charles Gibson is such a fluff joke - no substance whatsoever.
  • alfannaan · 1 year ago
    thank you - nothing coming through yet though. yeah they are delaying it here on the west coast.
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    Keep trying at that link. I'm watching it online right now.
  • jackie2 · 1 year ago
    I can't get the livestreaming to work. Anyone else having problems? I keep clicking on "start" and it should be going but it's not. Is there something I have to download first? Frustrating. I live on the west coast.
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    She is BULLSHITTING!
    She knows it....

    SHE is one sneeky lying dirty dog.

    Her nose is getting longer
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    East Coast. But I can't imagine the link to 6ABC is censored no matter where you live. It should be accessible even in Europe.
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    Obama just gave the same answer he gave on Charlie Rose 4 years ago.

    He really did explain it well what he meant...... It REALLY came across clear..

    BUT...NOOOOOOOOOO

    Hillary dissed it.... Wham Bam!
    She is disgusting
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I hope our candidates are DONE complimenting McCain, our competition, in the November election.
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    OMG, Obama is mistaken if he thinks Billary can win. She will lose big time to McCain. No one I know would even consider voting for her if she steals the nomination.
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    HE is such a Gentleman....
    But he just said Hillary has beating it to death for the last 4 days....

    He just took the "Stay home and bake cookies" and just aid that Hillary knew and I know that she is not an Elietist.
  • jackie2 · 1 year ago
    Grrrr. All I'm getting is a blank screen. :-(

    Is anyone from the West able to watch it via the WPVI link?
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    She calls the repugs shrewd. Oh god, their fear mongering assholes, not shrewd.
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    Calling her on her B.S. Great!!
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Obama should be careful...Clinton will slide the knife in silently and swiftly.
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    Charlie Wilson is disgusting. Here we go again about Rev. Wright. How many g-damn times do we have to go through this? Steffanopolis will probably ask if he would vow to disassociate from Islam. These hosts are total pigs.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    Rev. Wright again, c'mon white people, understand the anger and heal it.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    How about the issues? Education, economy, Iraq.........
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Belinda, Charlie Wilson WAS disgusting...but this is Charles Gibson.
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    LOL Charlie asked Clinton if all 8000 members of the church should walk out like she would.

    LOL
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    This is supposed to be a Presidential Debate, and yet all the hosts can focus on is the most inane trivia imaginable. This is totally DISGUSTING!
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Issues! I want issues! Enough stupidity, Gibson.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    Will these asshats ever get to the issues that the country faces? This is why MSM is putrid.
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    My God!!! This crap about Rev. Wright is now going on 6 minutes!!!! ABC is so sick and stupid. This is totally unbelievable. It's almost like the debate hosts have been paid off by the GOP to ask absurd loaded questions. What scum.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    This is a pile of crap.....what the hell ....debate the issues for God's sake
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    Then only way to stop this insanity is Obama should call these slime out on air. He needs to call them the shills they are and put a stop to this propaganda from the scum hosts.
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    Obama is supposed to know the level of Wright's patriotism? This is looking like a set-up. This debate sucks.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    ABFox.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Are they going to bring up all her lies?!?!!!
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Wow, the moderators are brutal. Why wasn't Dubya put through the wringer like this? I mean, the questions I remember asked of Dubya were things like, "Who is your favorite person?" (hint... hint.. Jesus) "Are you going to cut taxes?" and shit like that... Seems to me if Dubya had been asked REAL TOUGH questions, like this, we might not be in the deep shit our nation is in today!
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    Hello? The majority of the whole f-ing debate has now been spent on Rev. Wright and IT IS CONTINUEING! ABC must stop this insanity. This is totally mind-boggling.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Isn't ABC just a bunch of CONservative goons?
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    Maybe since this broadcast might have more exposure than the cable(CNN, MSNBC) debates; rehashing all this nonsense and Obama's well though out responses is a good thing? But 1/2 hour spent on this is disgusting anyway.
  • jackie2 · 1 year ago
    The "pre-game show" is beginning on ABC - west coast. I assume that means the debate will start 6 p.m. PDT. Although if the entire debate is going to be about what church Obama goes to and the Wright "issue," I'm not sure it's worth watching?
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    This debate has been on for a friggin half an hour and all we've heard about is bitter remarks and Pastor Wright. For gawd's sake, what is ABC thinking? Is this what they think we, the American voters, want to hear? We want to hear what Hillary or Obama are going to do about jobs, health insurance, high prices. This is ridiculous.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    ABC, not worth a shit since Peter Jennings died.
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    This whole thing isn't even a debate! The pig GOP hosts are just asking questions challenging the honesty, patriotism, and integrity of each candidate. This is unbelievable. If it were a Republican debate, would each question be these bizarre personal attacks? They haven't DEBATED a single f-ng thing yet!!!!
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    Good move hillary, calling both you and Obama liars. McCain must be laghing his ass off watching this shit.
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    Of course she brought up Farakahan et al, she is doing everything to make Obama seem unelectable to the supers. Since she has already lost this election, the only hope is for to damage so much that he loses against 4-more wars, one-term grandpa mccain
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    The difference in the way the media treats Democrats/Republicans:

    Democratic Debate question: "Twenty years ago, one of your professors in college said that you said the flag lapel pin should not be worn as a symbol to prove patriotism. Why are you not patriotic?"

    Republican Debate question: "Category: Dogs... Doberman Pincher or Shitzu, and please tell us why you would choose Doberman Pincher, and again thank you for having me, Sir!"
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    ABC is total slime. I can't even watch this anymore. It was advertised as a "debate", yet all they are doing is setting up each candidate with loaded questions. Not a debate at all.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    A flag lapel pin? Our country is lost......
  • Belinda · 1 year ago
    That's it!!! WTF???? Now after 38 minutes of Rev. Wright, they are now grilling Obama about the flag pin. This is the most unbelievable tv shitfest I have ever seen. I hope to God someone files some kind of charges against ABC. This is the worst tv 'debate' I have ever ever ever ever ever seen. Totally embarrassing.
  • johnosahon · 1 year ago
    Hilary is annoying as usual, but i love how obama treated her like a fool when he did not follow her in her bosnia crap, le her recieve her fake bosnia shots.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    I agree Belinda...totally disgusting
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    OH.MY.GOD. I posted the flag pin question BEFORE they asked about FLAG PINS! I'm PSYCHIC!
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    It's as if Obama is on the hotseat. This so called debate is crap.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    LOL cowboyneok....yep you are !!!
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Let's all send open letters to ABC tomorrow. I hope there's a lot of newsprint and blog space devoted to this pile of shit.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    The Weathermen? Does anyone think that has squat to do with anything? Stephalugulus, what a turd sucking idiot.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    Hillary thinks that is an issue, the Weathermen.....mmmmm totally unqualified to be President.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Stephanopoulos is furious he hadn't been born early enough to be a Weatherman.

    Fool. Just another pretty face.
  • ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago
    Hillary would be quite attractive if she'd take that stick out of her butt.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    Bill C. pardoned Weathermen, wow Hillary, you really are an asshat now......
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    I was going to ask why Stephanopolous would be a right wing too. Then I remembered, he is part of the problem of all those politico freaks in the DC who will WHORE themselves and do whatever for $$$.

    What a DINO!

    Oh, and can he stop dying his hair black?
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    Obama is at least able to get issues out on his own. ABC must be pissed, issues seem to be the last thing they want discussed tonight.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Olberman is going to have a show right after the debate....
    I hope he rips ABC good for this travesty
  • ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago
    48 minutes have passed and they haven't discussed a legitimate issue yet.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Is the debate on the left coast, yet? Cable? Got damn time zones!!!! :-(
  • rosebud · 1 year ago
    thank goodness American Idol is on at 9
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    Being on the left coast, the debate does not start until 8p PST, so this is good to see some live blogging of it. Not sure I will watch this drivel from what I am hearing. I will just end up throwing my tv onto my downstairs neighbors yappy-ass dog
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    Snaffalugulus has to make the bucks, he needs new lifts for his shoes.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Just read this at Kos:

    Bad debate, or worst debate ever?

    Sounds like it's a National Enquirer-sponsored debate so far. "Barack
    Obama, would you consider Bat Boy as Secretary of the Interior? Why or
    why not?"
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Bush and pope prayed together for family
    Bush is a Methodist. Both he and the Roman Catholic pope have said that the traditional family, based on the marriage of a man and a woman, is under threat.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idU...
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    What the bloody hell is this debate all about? Stephanpls is doing the CLintons's hatchet job for them Has Bill paid him off? Why is Obama getting all the dirty questions, and why is this woman getting off scottfree?

    I cannot believe this is happening. This is a hatchet job on Obama.
    We are calling ABC and complaining right now.
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    Yeah I am with Rosebud. I am watch AI live
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Didn't George has some sort of job with the Clintons??
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    grandma, excellent!
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    He was the fluffer
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    The Clintons made George. This is his back pay to his former bosses, Fox News style. PBS should moderate all debates from now on.
  • ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago
    Aquarius2: Yes, George Stephanopoulos got his big break working for Bill Clinton.
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    My cats should moderate the debates. It couldn't possibly be any worse
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Georgie Boy was press secretary and Senior Advisor for Clinton.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Considering his former relationship with Clinton I would have thought ABC might have picked someone more neutral to host what many are calling the great gossip session.
  • ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago
    This is the most useless, boring "debate" in history.
    I want to see Harvey Fierstein moderate one of these debates. Or Mario Cantone.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    George WANTS ACCESS!
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    Why aquarius? Isn't ABC the same organization that put together one of the propaganda pieces during the 2004 election against democrats?
  • martha · 1 year ago
    Obama is doing great. I think Chelsea is having second thoughts about who she should vote for. Bill pardoned two weathermen - Obama was on a board with a weatherman. Priceless.
  • ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago
    Two minutes to "American Idol," Thank God. Watching this is almost as hellish as watching a bunch of Republican assholes on that stage.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Thanks for all your responses to my question,. I am now more enlightened and in that frame of mind that says FLIGHTOFTHESEEABIRD (god it that a long name) gave a terrific answer "he was the fluffer". LOL
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    Maybe someone else has said this already--I just joined the thread--but it seems to me that Shillary knows what is going to be asked. That answer she just gave about troop withdrawal was pretty darn polished for extemporaneous speech.

    I think Stephie fed her the script...
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    It only took an hour to get to an issue. Gee, what have we been complaining about?
  • ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago
    Yes, the Fluffer answer definitely wins the prize tonight. Good job Flightoftheseabird!
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    Thanks :-) I am pretty proud of the answer, considering how off the cuff it was lol
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    I like the name flightoftheseabird. A family member. :)
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    Of course George gave her the questions. And did you know he asked Hannity what he should ask the candidates tonight?

    Maybe Bill gave George his first big break but Bill didn't do us any favor when he did.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    George Stephanopoulos's Bio

    Stephanopoulos was, along with David Wilhelm and James Carville, a leading member of the 1992 Clinton campaign. 'Nuff said.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Stephanopou...
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    We need to get to the bottom of this coordinated hit job between, Clinton and George S. He should be fired asap!
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    So basically this is a free two hour pro Hillary ad----unbelievable. No one will give her any money, so she finds a way to steal some time....
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    It would have been great if Obama looked at his watch and said, “I will more than be happy to answer your question, but have you noticed it took you OVER 40 MINUTES to ask any question that is about real issues? You did America a disservice by spending 45 minutes on questions that have NOTHING to do with issues America cares about. Have you become the new Fake News, I mean the new Fox News?”
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    The media needs to keep this stupid ass fight btwn Democratic Presidential nominee Barack Obama and Sen Hillary Clinton (D?-NY), how else is there BFF John McCain going to win the presidency? If the Democratic side had a declared nominee (not just a an actual nominee), the media might have to take their collective tongue out McCain's ear (h/t Rachel Maddow) for a second a realize he is a great hypocritical phony.
  • johnosahon · 1 year ago
    wasn't StephanoCrapulous working for the clinton, why the hell is he there?
  • johnosahon · 1 year ago
    also the attendees clap for obama going against the rules,NOBOSY claps for senator oakley (R - NY)
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    Is the <insert word here to describe this craptastic shit fest here> over?
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    This is the most unprofessional debate ever. One candidate gets attacked for the first 45 minutes, while the other gets the soft balls.
    This is a hatchet job on Obama. No doubt. Didn't someone say that George was meeting with Fox today? Is he doing the GOP or the Clintons dirty work.
    Gibson is no better. They are pretending to be Limbaugh or Hannity.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Well, This Week with George Stephanopoulos is rebroadcast in Australia on a network partially owned by Murdoch's News Corp.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Week_with_Geo...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_News_Australia
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    George should not have been one of the moderators. He is too connected to the CLintons.
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    "Charlie Gibson got into social security. A commission. That's the typical DC answer."

    Because it is not like SS has worked thus far. Plus, how else are we going to pad Mr. Gibson's hedge fund accounts?
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    I am truly disgusted. She knows all of the questions already---she probably fed that little weasel the piece about the Weather Underground guy in Obama's neighborhood. Good thing Obama knew the factoid about Bill pardoning the other Weathermen!!!

    This is no debate. I hate American Idol, but I may actually watch it for the first time....nah.
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    They pitched into Obama about Wright, about the bitter comment, and Hillary went on and on about it. Why didn't they ask her about Mark Penn, just to be fair? We are really mad with ABC and their moderators. They sound like they are in the payroll of the clinton camp. Hillary is like a wooden zombie, she is looking smug.
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    You should watch AI. It is actually a good season. Some real talent. (no snark/sarcasm meant)

    I like to tout my connection to two contestants this season. I knew one of the guys who was voted off a few weeks ago. He was a bartender at a bar I used to go to back in Phoenix and I went to the same High School as frontrunner David Archuleta.
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    Maybe I was misinformed. But is Charlie Gibson one of the debators? I thought it was Clinton and Obama who were debating.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I posted the flag lapel pin question as satire because I was trying to come up with the most outrageous example of how different our, Democratic, candidates are treated when in the presence of corporate media pundants. I can't believe they ACTUALLY asked a question about a "flag lapel" pin.
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    yes, that was particulary nauseating, in a really sickening hour...(the flag lapel thing)--how stupid are we?
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    Mr. Gibson is the master debater!
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Gibson is disrespectful. He needs to be reminded no one has elected him anything. Not one of us asked him to debate our candidates, and be disrespectful.
  • Andrew A. Gill · 1 year ago
    I think Tom Tomorrow had it best about Ayers:

    ``He also knows a guy who knows a guy who was once in the Weather Underground!''
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    "It's not as cut and dried as George and Charlie want to make it"
    Of course it is. As Eddie Izzard said (joked), there are approx 250 million guns in the US and we are about 50 million guns short of every American owning one, we need to keep trying, we'll get there! See cut and dry.
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    I just tuned into the ABC debate, but one reason why I was in doubt of this particular venue was that Disney AND ABC have shown themselves to be "in the bag" with the EXTREME right wing in politics today.

    As far as George goes, well I never liked that guy; I always thought him to be up for the highest bidder. Actually I view him as a tiny slimy worm of a person.

    I'm curious to see just how this thing swings tonight...
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    flightoftheseabird 1 minute ago
    ========================================

    I ADORE Izzard. He's a riot (plus a very good actor) AND he's terribly smart.

    Where else can you find humor, intelligence, wit and handsome good looks in high heels?
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    I have tickets to see him [Eddie Izzard] at the Kodak theater here in LA in August. I am so god damned excited! :-D
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    flightoftheseabird 3 minutes ago
    ================================================
    I am jealous! I am up North in CA but get all of his updates as to when and where he's playing.

    I have never seen him in person, but I have heard he's simply fabulous on stage. Have a great time!
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Wow. ABC News viewers are royally pissed off! LOL
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/DemocraticDebate...

    And this Clinton supporter's placard is just disgusting!
    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Worst debate EVER
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
  • SandieInPA · 1 year ago
    Funny how everything predicted earlier in DailyKos came to pass.
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    you said it, grandma. I should have taken my tired bones to bed an hour ago and not wasted my time watching!
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    "How would you use George W. Bush in your administration?"

    Obama: I would like to see President George W. Bush have close ties with my justice department. Particularly as a defendant in a war crimes tribunal with my Attorney's General, John Edwards as the prosecutor. In fact, I would like to see not only President Bush, but also Vice-President Cheney, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Condi Rice, and former head of the world bank Paul Wolfiwitz all have a close relationship with my justice department.
  • Chandidevi · 1 year ago
    Stephanopolous worked for the Clinton White House. He should have recused himself as moderator of this debate. This debate is obviously attempting to promote Clinton. Good God! what the hell has happened to honest journalism?
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346&cat=...


    If anyone else wants to let them know what a travesty they put on tonite.
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    "what the hell has happened to honest journalism?"

    Edward Murrow died.
  • Chandidevi · 1 year ago
    Obama should have never agred to do this "debate". What a sham!
  • martha · 1 year ago
    I disagree. God, he was good!
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    Oh good. Finally over. Well, at least I can save the space on my DVR tonight.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Olberman is discussing it right now
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    Olberman just called it a tabloid debate.
  • SandieInPA · 1 year ago
    I see potential worst person in the world George S.
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    Is Rachel on there?
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    No Rachel yet, Just Chuck Dodd so far. He said Obama supporters would be mad at this debate and hillary supporters would defend it. He's right.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    So when asked if Obama can win the presidency, Clinton answered "Yes, Yes, Yes!" Then why is Billary telling the supes the opposite to sway their votes?
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Haven't seen Rachel yet...Olberman is talking with Chuck Todd
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Olbermann's on! :-)
  • MrJJ · 1 year ago
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    yep...sent my comments of disgust to ABC
  • johnosahon · 1 year ago
    CNN is killing hilary, she said obama is electable which contradicts all her DAMN attacks.

    she is TOAST.

    infact i am happy they asked all the crappy questions, it gave obama the opportunity to look presidential by asking about the issues even during bosnia questions, and hilary looking desperate.
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    I have posted on ABC's website and have already written to them regarding this hit piece of crap that they call a Presidential Debate.

    I will write again and have already begun gathering info regarding who advertises on their network and will begin to picket everyone who places one piece of advertising on that network.

    Never again will anyone from this household watch or buy a thing that has anything to do with ABC. And THAT is a promise!
    .
  • Eric on the Beach · 1 year ago
    It sounds like the audience was not that impressed either:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/abc-ho...
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    I just made a donation to Obama's campaign (again). I certainly do hope his donations go way up this evening, it's evident that he needs our help now more than ever.

    It's obvious that the "powers that be" are definitely afraid of this man getting power...
    .
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Man, I didn't see it, but it sounded brutal.

    Glad I didn't bother.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/2416145...

    Here's a debate link, but it is also delayed here in NM.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    Belinda, what part of the country do you live?
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    No, Belinda, we do not have debate coverage yet in the west. It isn't censorship; it's a delayed broadcast.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    F*ck! about the delayed broadcast.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    I'm too angry at this ABC hitjob on Obama (which here in the West is still going on), to write more than to say my dislike of Hillary and her shiteous behavior tonight has morphed into raw hatred.