AMERICAblog: Dems discussing immediate health care reform package that helps uninsured but not the rest of us
Webster
· 1 year ago
And, it seems, still nothing for those of us who are unemployed and have no health care.
We continue to be invisible.
marinemom
· 1 year ago
I have worked most of my life. Have never ask the goverment for any help. because I was always told to work for what you need by my father. Well at the age 49 I have found that I have dieabetes and other health troubles. I have no health insurance because I was self employed and could'nt get it I have lungs troubles from the time I was born. so the word preconditions was always there and higher rates. I tryed for help and was told that I was to old for one and to young for the other and my husband who 's boss does not have insurance on him or anyone for that matter he is cheap I was told I could'nt get disablitable because he made 100.00 to much. Dieabete drugs cost a lot more then that a month. so when I could'nt get them no more I just live day to day without them. They take your life history run you through the mill. I would have phone call's all day answering all kind of questions. all I wanted was help getting healthy again. I was treated like I was trying to steal from them. I has been 2 yrs and I still have no help I just watch what I eat and drink. have lost weight and that is great. but still my blood suger is always around 3 to 4 hundred. they tell me if it does'nt get better my liver and kideys will fail. my feet hurt all the time from nerve damange. I'm not writing this to wine Iive with this every day. I just want everyone to know that there are people worse off the me out here and I know how hard it is to listen to the goverment tell us all they want to help when the make it so hard to get the help that we have now..
Andrew
· 1 year ago
It was great in having a pretty good sweep in this last election cycle, but now the rubber has to hit the road. Just an observation, but Obama made it clear in his victory speech as well as one other afterwards, in which is said all of us must share in the sacrifice. So he may well not be able to address major problems like health care. The worlds financial markets are hellish and until we find effective solutions to our debt that is in increments that boggle the mind ( 3 Trillion and counting ) we will never get ahead and at best only end up with patch work fixes that still leave many vaunerable. The greatest gift that could be given to the American people is shutting down the Federal Reserve and begin to back the dollar with something of value like gold and silver and return to a US Treasury banking system. We never seem to get to the point where real sacrifice has to be made, but unless the patient is willing to be cured, he will continue to require one more financial fix after another. Guaranteed that there will have to be another bailout soon after the 1st of the new year. Solve the fundemental problems with the worlds finances first and then build from a stronger position to move on from there. It would also be refreshing to see some of those who broke any laws either bankrupted in fines and legal fees and or go to jail. You just can't cause this much pain in middle America and not believe that we are a country under the rule of law for all regardless ones status in life. Health care should be the first thing the new administration tackles as many have suffered enough for the last eight years, but without the financials in place it will go no where. Sadly at least in this life, if you don't have the money for health care you just leave us a little sooner than your time. Yeah, I think we've sacrificed a lot already.
paulbot5
· 1 year ago
This spending will be funded by more inflation, thats not helping us :\
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
I wasn't so thrilled with the last "stimulus" plan. Tell me why a single retired person gets $300 WHILE a married retired person whose husband is still working gets $600. I could understand if the working spouse got $600 BUT the wife, who draws SS, also got $600, not $300.
Sorry but that is not exactly my idea of fair distribution. God only knows what will happen to single people and health care.
Mickey7
· 1 year ago
This plan won't even help the majority of uninsured who are either can't get insurance on the private market because they are self-employed or they don't work. As long as we insist on tying health care to employment, we will never fix this mess.
stymie
· 1 year ago
Someone once said "the solution will not be brought forth with the same level of thinking that the problem dwelt in', okay it's not even close to the original quote but I hope you can get the idea. With health care reform the solution will come when we change the idea that health care is delivered by a system that is designed basically to provide disease care and is corrupted by an underlying structure to enrich the architecs of said system fearing the masses into purchasing drugs and usless surgeries. It is a system that by its actions, procedures, errors of trade, etc., collectively has a mortality rate greater than the dreaded diseases it purports it is saving us from. John wrote recently in another post how he could not afford some prescriptions. One was for high cholesterol. Here we have an intelligent man fearing an absence of a drug which has long term life threatening side effects, to combat a fear generated by the system's clever long term marketing scheme, which said condition could be remedied with a few simple lifestyle changes. Cholesterol has little to do with heart disease and alot to do with health. Cholesterol is the mother of all hormones as it is the base from which hormone are built upon. But we have been led to believe that it is bad so the drug companies can profit on our fears. Its a multi billion dollar business, no not helath care, I'm talking just cholesterol drugs. A national health care system is needed to take the obscene profits out of the pockets of those who are killing us off ever so slowly, (and sometimes quickly). Yet it should not just be designed to primarily deliver disease care more effeciently. We need to have a new paradigm in our thinking of where health comes from. It comes from within and not from some prescription, nor an over the counter bottle of some supposedly majic bullet, or the removal of a dysfunctional organ. We are at or near the bottom of every catagory in health care delivery when compared to other industrialized nations. Even our infaant mortality rates are pretty lousy. So to continue along the course as we are would be like throwing money at the financial system without changing the usual way of doing things, like no regulation or oversight. Well, well, well, another black hole.
SCLiberal
· 1 year ago
Exactly! And now they are finding that cholesterol may not as big a problem as inflammation... another drug needed! We are being SO SCAMMED and there is nothing in the universe as blinding as fear.
stymie
· 1 year ago
Cholesterol did not make the top 10 list of risk factors for heart disease, according to the international conference of physicians of heart disease. Many are like the blogger above who believes they have "an incurable disease" like high blood pressure or cholesterol who is ignorant of health issues and how to take responsibility for their own health. Its a failure of OUR society, for taking health classes and gym class out of school and letting the biggest lobbying force of the pharma industry run the FDA while their fingers are in every pocket of our representatives writing legislation on how we are to run our lives in relation to health care delivery, (tongue in cheek). Our bodies never came with an owners manual but we do not have to cede the care and responsibility to high falutin' white robed men with heart hearing aids around their necks. Look where that has gotten us.
SCLiberal
· 1 year ago
If you are referring to me as "the blogger above" I don't believe I have an incurable disease. There is nothing wrong with my health, thank you.
stymie
· 1 year ago
Sorry, wasn't referring to you, another had written, "How many, I don't know, but we are uninsurable because WE"RE ALREADY SICK with something incurable such as high blood pressure, or high cholesterol or something else that's actually not trivial at all.' What I'm saying is that high cholesterol and high blood pressure in not incurable and many times easily applied lifestyle modifications is what reverses the condition. Congrats on living a wholesome lifestyle that keeps you healthy!
johnnieJohnson
· 1 year ago
OK, I'm calling BS already. That's BS with capital letters. Not all of the uninsured are people who are going to be getting a new job at a newly insuring employer. In fact, that's not the problem for A LOT OF PEOPLE. How many, I don't know, but we are uninsurable because WE"RE ALREADY SICK with something incurable such as high blood pressure, or high cholesterol or something else that's actually not trivial at all. But John, I guess you're insurable? Gawd knows some of us can't even consider looking for work, though we might like to. And we certainly can't afford to be in the State sponsored "high risk pool." Me, I'm going to Thailand to be tested and treated next week. So you see, the Dems can't act fast enough, or indeed, smart enough for me.
Older_Wiser
· 1 year ago
Once again, it's the EMPLOYERS and employed, not the uninsured unemployed, who are getting the rewards of this. The reward seems to be to help companies, not individuals.
Many of the unemployed, who live in households with maybe another insured or one on Medicare or Medicaid, are ineligible for any kind of help (Medicaid, etc.) with their health coverage. My son has no coverage and is 49 yrs old, and has no way of getting coverage or help of any kind because he's a single male making an average of $500/wk and cannot afford his own coverage. I wouldn't expect employers like his to jump at the chance to spend money they probably don't have just to get some kind of "tax credit" which wouldn't offset the expense.
Apphouse50
· 1 year ago
Nothing like a bandaid approach to quiet the peeps down for a little while. Leave it to these fools and we'll all be screwed, only the formerly uninsured who work for businesses that were too poor to cover them will have to help cover themselves with the pay from those same businesses that pay them an unliveable wage.
I pray for the day when we all have healthcare that lets us tell our sucky employers, whoever they are, "Hey, bub, I don't need your sorry ass anymore."
SCLiberal
· 1 year ago
Any health care solution that includes health insurance is NO SOLUTION.
I have Blue Cross through my state's employee plan. My late husband had lung cancer. After the insurance people paid their part I was left with over $33k in medical bills. Having insurance doesn't mean dick any more.
I am SO TIRED of "my" government continually finding ways to take my money and give it to the rich, whether it is insurance companies, military contractors, or bailouts.
marijo
· 1 year ago
Let's not start yelling that the sky is falling just yet. I am not going to get all hyped up over a preliminary idea being floated around that will be a first step to tap into the bailout moneyand provide people with NO insurance a bridge to see them through until a real reform package can be carefully and thoughtfully put together. PLEASE! The man has not even made it through putting his staff and cabinet together, much less been inaugurated and had a real opportunity to go through the federal budget, and make the necessary decisions as far as priorities, and we're already talking about Dems caving...change means an overhaul of our negative, overreactionary attitudes too! Let's be patient...
All Comments
We continue to be invisible.
I tryed for help and was told that I was to old for one and to young for the other and my husband who 's boss does not have insurance on him or anyone for that matter he is cheap I was told I could'nt get disablitable because he made 100.00 to much. Dieabete drugs cost a lot more then that a month. so when I could'nt get them no more I just live day to day without them. They take your life history run you through the mill. I would have phone call's all day answering all kind of questions. all I wanted was help getting healthy again. I was treated like I was trying to steal from them. I has been 2 yrs and I still have no help I just watch what I eat and drink. have lost weight and that is great. but still my blood suger is always around 3 to 4 hundred. they tell me if it does'nt get better my liver and kideys will fail. my feet hurt all the time from nerve damange. I'm not writing this to wine Iive with this every day. I just want everyone to know that there are people worse off the me out here and I know how hard it is to listen to the goverment tell us all they want to help when the make it so hard to get the help that we have now..
The greatest gift that could be given to the American people is shutting down the Federal Reserve and begin to back the dollar with something of value like gold and silver and return to a US Treasury banking system.
We never seem to get to the point where real sacrifice has to be made, but unless the patient is willing to be cured, he will continue to require one more financial fix after another. Guaranteed that there will have to be another bailout soon after the 1st of the new year.
Solve the fundemental problems with the worlds finances first and then build from a stronger position to move on from there. It would also be refreshing to see some of those who broke any laws either bankrupted in fines and legal fees and or go to jail. You just can't cause this much pain in middle America and not believe that we are a country under the rule of law for all regardless ones status in life.
Health care should be the first thing the new administration tackles as many have suffered enough for the last eight years, but without the financials in place it will go no where. Sadly at least in this life, if you don't have the money for health care you just leave us a little sooner than your time. Yeah, I think we've sacrificed a lot already.
Sorry but that is not exactly my idea of fair distribution. God only knows what will happen to single people and health care.
John wrote recently in another post how he could not afford some prescriptions. One was for high cholesterol. Here we have an intelligent man fearing an absence of a drug which has long term life threatening side effects, to combat a fear generated by the system's clever long term marketing scheme, which said condition could be remedied with a few simple lifestyle changes. Cholesterol has little to do with heart disease and alot to do with health. Cholesterol is the mother of all hormones as it is the base from which hormone are built upon. But we have been led to believe that it is bad so the drug companies can profit on our fears. Its a multi billion dollar business, no not helath care, I'm talking just cholesterol drugs.
A national health care system is needed to take the obscene profits out of the pockets of those who are killing us off ever so slowly, (and sometimes quickly). Yet it should not just be designed to primarily deliver disease care more effeciently. We need to have a new paradigm in our thinking of where health comes from. It comes from within and not from some prescription, nor an over the counter bottle of some supposedly majic bullet, or the removal of a dysfunctional organ. We are at or near the bottom of every catagory in health care delivery when compared to other industrialized nations. Even our infaant mortality rates are pretty lousy. So to continue along the course as we are would be like throwing money at the financial system without changing the usual way of doing things, like no regulation or oversight.
Well, well, well, another black hole.
What I'm saying is that high cholesterol and high blood pressure in not incurable and many times easily applied lifestyle modifications is what reverses the condition.
Congrats on living a wholesome lifestyle that keeps you healthy!
Many of the unemployed, who live in households with maybe another insured or one on Medicare or Medicaid, are ineligible for any kind of help (Medicaid, etc.) with their health coverage. My son has no coverage and is 49 yrs old, and has no way of getting coverage or help of any kind because he's a single male making an average of $500/wk and cannot afford his own coverage. I wouldn't expect employers like his to jump at the chance to spend money they probably don't have just to get some kind of "tax credit" which wouldn't offset the expense.
I pray for the day when we all have healthcare that lets us tell our sucky employers, whoever they are, "Hey, bub, I don't need your sorry ass anymore."
I have Blue Cross through my state's employee plan. My late husband had lung cancer. After the insurance people paid their part I was left with over $33k in medical bills. Having insurance doesn't mean dick any more.
I am SO TIRED of "my" government continually finding ways to take my money and give it to the rich, whether it is insurance companies, military contractors, or bailouts.