DISQUS

AMERICAblog: Did Clinton "misspeak" or "mislead" on Bosnia? Let's go to the video again

  • CDS2 · 1 year ago
    Something to think about: Yesterday at Easter dinner, my Mother In Law, who has voted Democrat all of her life, stated that she wants to vote for Hillary, and that if Obama is the Nominee, she will vote Republican for the first time in her life......hummmm
  • Paul_In_SF · 1 year ago
    Re: CDS2
    You give the CDS2 minus points for quoting her mother? You must be the same folks who keep labeling everything they don't want to hear as "Reported as possibly inaccurate" over on Digg. Grow up, people. We are the ones who are supposed to be "reality based".

    "I want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth - just as long as it fits with my preconceptions."
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    It isn't lying, it's just not giving a shit about what's true in the first place.

    See?
  • SarainKC · 1 year ago
    The blogs need to unite in calling for an assault on Pelosi and Howard Dean to end this thing. Enough!
  • GrantinHouston · 1 year ago
    The Clintons are the best when it comes to parsing words, wiggling out of statements. No wonder they were called "Slick" and "slippery" even before they ever left Arkansas.
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    No, she didn't misspeak the bitch monster LIED!!!
  • hector · 1 year ago
    I would require mortgage brokers to disclose right up front that -- they're paid based on the size of the mortgage they sell--to put buyers on notice. I would work with states to develop strong, meaningful broker licensing standards to screen brokers and govern their conduct. And I would require all brokers to register with the federal government so that home buyers can do their own background checks to ensure they're dealing with someone who will deal fairly with them.

    I also call for greater regulation of mortgage lenders. I would eliminate the prepayment penalties that lead to such high rates of default. I would require lenders to take into account the borrower's ability to pay property taxes and insurance fees when deciding whether to make a loan in the first place. Too many loan lenders haven't made that part of the calculation, and too many families don't know that they need to budget for these expenses. In October I proposed legislation, the Foreclosure Rescue Fraud Act, that imposed new criminal penalties on lenders who are taking advantage of people, offering foreclosure rescue schemes that lure families in, take their money and do nothing to help them.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/us/politics/2...
  • dad · 1 year ago
    Hillary Clinton: Experience Bad Judgement, Again.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Of course she meant to imply dodging small children rather than snipers...Maybe Team Hillary can lay this confusion at Sinbad's door. After all, he does have a tendency to loom and Hillary was an unescorted white woman.
  • CitizenTwenty · 1 year ago
    Just like President Bill misspoke when he said "I did not have relations with that women..."
    I guess misspeaking (aka wildly lying and expecting not to get caught) runs in the family...
  • GrantinHouston · 1 year ago
    Timothy Egan in the New York Times is calling us the "Donner Party Democrats" eating their own, and I fear he just may be right.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/22/opinion/22ega...

    I am getting so pissed at the Clintons that I cannot see voting for Hillary in November if she and Bill destroy the party. I haven't voted for a Republican since 1964 but I may have to if there is no viable party left.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    but I may have to
    "Courage, citizen!" as Adam West's Batman used to say...or, mayhaps, the bard?

    How tender ’tis to love the babe that milks me;
    I would, while it was smiling in my face,
    Have pluck’d my nipple from his boneless gums
    And dash’d the brains out, had I so sworn as you
    Have done to this.
    Macb. If we should fail?
    Lady M. We fail!
    But screw your courage to the sticking-place,
    And we’ll not fail.
  • EdNSted · 1 year ago
    [OT]

    Unbelievably stupid quote of the week (and hey, we're just getting started with this week):

    "A statement from TSA said the airplane was never in danger..."

    Pilot's gun discharges on US Airways flight

    Nope. Nothing to see here folks. Never in any danger. As everyone knows, there's nothing critical to the flight of an aircraft that could be found in a cockpit. A random discharge in the cockpit at 17,000 feet is not likely to ever cause any serious damage. Gosh, do you suppose if I accidently discharged a firearm on a full, in-flight aircraft, the TSA would issue such a statement? I'm betting not so much. And I'm beginning to think this whole "guns in the cockpit" thing might not be such a good idea after all. But I suppose we'll need to wait until one goes down before us children are permitted to re-examine the question.

    I would argue that this pilot has just failed his Darwin test and should never be permitted to fly ANY aircraft EVER again, commercial, private or otherwise.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Though your link didn't work for me, googled nooz accounts were without ear witness or eye witness quotes.
    Seems like a gun bang at 30,000 ft might provoke commentary from one or two out of 124 paying customers, 2 pilots and 3 flight attendants...
  • dad · 1 year ago
    (great image Ed)
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    revisionism... it's not just for republicans anymore.

    /snark
  • SarainKC · 1 year ago
  • Mykel1 · 1 year ago
    Lying is just another tool to win elections or debates in political circles. Moral compasses tend to go haywire & become totally useless in D.C. I usually do not vote but I will out of spite & to help bring down the Clintonista bitch monster.

    Looks like in trying to distance herself from that, Vote Different, political ad on youtube Senator Clinton just proved the theme of it is correct.

    How do they think people will see her in other way than imposing her will on millions of people if she winz the nomination by super delegate votes??

    .
  • hector · 1 year ago
    The solution, therefore, is not to drop $100 bills from helicopters — which is essentially what the rebate would do. Rather, what we need is a mortgage Superfund that can clean up the toxic waste. If we can cleanse the financial system of at least some of the bad debts, it will do far more to restore the economy to health than anything that could be accomplished by the rebate — even if the rebate were to work as it is supposed to.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/opinion/24bar...

    All of a sudden Bush's wife says: "If I were to throw out a $100 bill, I would make one person very happy."
    Cheney answers: "If I threw ten $10 bills out of the window, I would make ten whole people happy."
    Bush feels the need to say something as well: "If I threw a hundred $1 bills out of the window, I would make a hundred people happy."
    The pilot, who had been listening to the conversation, mutters to the co-pilot: "If I were to throw these three out of the window, I'd make millions happy!"
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Apparently, it's okay for Hillary Clinton to just make things up about foreign policy. That's the lifetime of experience she brings to the race.

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    A lifetime of lying?
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    By the way, Superdelegates.

    Just consider this video a sample of the kind of commercials the Repubs will be cooking up if Hillary's the nominee.
  • KatrinaSurvivor · 1 year ago
    Plain and simple - HILLARY LIED! Just like her philandering husband. I am so sick of Democrats being caught in perjury. Obama hasn't lied. Sure if a video came out proving that he had heard Rev Wright speak some of that nasty stuff, I would have to disassociate from Obama too. We have got to clean up the Democratic Party from these chronic liars or we are never going to win another election. I am starting to be embarrassed to be a Democrat.
  • ericgoldman · 1 year ago
    Obama hasn't lied?

    "Tony Rezko was one of many, many donors, I had no special relationship with him" -- except that at periods of time the two spoke daily, and their relationship goes back about 20 years. Obama claimed to have been a co-sponsor of immigration policy and of Senator Dodd's proposal to expand the role of the FHA in the face of the mortgage market meltdown -- claims even Obama supporters Kennedy and Dodd told him were false and inappropriate. As for the pastor, at the start of Obama's campaign he recognized the pastor would be a problem -- so he put him on the campaign staff?

    Obama is many, many things -- a gifted politician, a visionary leader, an inspirational figure -- but he is not above reproach or squeaky clean or above lying. And if Democrats refuse to see it, rest assured the McCain campaign can and will.
  • nsr · 1 year ago
    links?
  • ericgoldman · 1 year ago
    I drew the Rezko and Wright comments from several news reports, mostly in the Wall Street Journal. The comments on the immigration legislation and FHA legislation Obama falsely claimed to have authored were from a report on yesterday's Huffington Post.
  • hector · 1 year ago
    By Nadim Ladki 1 hour, 38 minutes ago

    BEIRUT (Reuters) - Arabs keen to see the end of George W. Bush's presidency fear that a win for likely Republican candidate John McCain will bring little change to U.S. policies they blame for destabilizing the Middle East.

    For Arab politicians who have gained from U.S. policy in countries including Iraq and Lebanon, continuity may be a good thing.

    But Bush's many critics in the Arab world worry that McCain will continue current U.S. policies, which they fault for unleashing chaos in Iraq and providing unflinching support for Israel in its conflict with the Palestinians.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080324/pl_nm/arabs...

    Gee, the same thing occurred to me!
  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    OMG!! I can finally comment and yet have nothing to say.
  • Paul_In_SF · 1 year ago
    See, that is what Hillary means when she says that she and McCain have the experience. Those two know something that Obama doesn't. Number one rule: Just make shit up. No one will call you on it.
  • Upland_Oddball · 1 year ago
    If Hillary wants to be taken seriously in whatever future role she assumes, she has to pull the plug on fools like Wolfson and Penn, whose clumsy hanling of campaign spin has gone beyond inept into the criminally bad zone. Why continue these conference calls, when it is now predictable that someone will say something stupid and counterproductive. Perhpas, they are now being paid for by the McCain campaign. He is the only beneficiary.
  • Chris From Maine · 1 year ago
    Hillary does have loads of experience in one thing..

    lying.
  • SarainKC · 1 year ago
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    beyond inept into the criminally bad

    Oye vey Maria!!!
    Has an eyebrow ever arched any higher than our Hil's?
    Winky, winky if you get my drift, nudge, nudge evolves into comic super villian hissy fits with the fat Penn's nub.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    Hillary only cares about instant gratification. She doesn't care if she gets caught lying as long as she can get through today's sale
  • hector · 1 year ago
    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Stanford Kurland spent nearly three decades helping build Countrywide Financial Corp. into the nation's largest mortgage lender. Now, the former president of the now-troubled company and several key colleagues hope to cash in as the housing market collapses. Kurland will head a new company unveiled Monday that will acquire and restructure distressed mortgages.

    Private National Mortgage Acceptance Co. LLC, also known as PennyMac, intends to help borrowers restructure loans so they can avoid foreclosure and maintain payments. Backed by prominent investment management firms BlackRock Inc. and Highfields Capital Management, PennyMac will even set up shop in Calabasas, Calif., about six miles from the offices of Countrywide. The irony was not lost on analysts.

    ''He won't be the first or the last person trying to make money on both sides of a trade,'' said Frederick Cannon, an analyst at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods Inc. who covers Countrywide.
    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-Pen...

    Just imagine, what could Kenny Lay be doing if....
  • FNReedie · 1 year ago
    Hillary -- Close ... but not cigar.
  • KISSman · 1 year ago
    This is certainly not a case of misspeaking. This is a case of lying and lying = misleading.

    If she weren't trying to stress the point that her trips around the world as first lady were somehow more than tea gatherings, I might have given her some benefit of the doubt. But she's using this as a 'war story' and it just shows how tough she is. She doesn't flinch when she's under sniper fire. She gets the job done. Only, in this case, it's complete fiction and such an incident never happened.

    Her main job as First Lady had nothing to do with policy. Her main job was to ask, "One lump or two?".
  • lauren1959 · 1 year ago
    Misspeak
    1. pronounce incorrectly
    2. express yourself unclearly
    3. speak incorrectly

    Lie
    1. deliberately say something untrue
    2. be deceptive

    Clearly the statement and the classification of statement as a "misspeak" are deceptive. Not only did she misspeak, but she did her best to discredit Sinbad, who accurately described the situation. Did she forget there were others, including cameras on the trip?

    If she wasn't being deceptive, she is delusional, and I'm not sure which is more scary.
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    Just watch Hillary's face when she relates that story. She is quite precise in what she says, and you can see the face of a liar. Hillary misspoke? What a load of BS from the Clinton camp. She lied outright, trying to convince her supporters that she has such great experience. The fact that she took Chelsea out with her on that day, makes her either an awful mother, or a first class liar. I think the latter. So how big was the fish, Hillary? Do we need to send this lying woman out as our nominee? Her negatives are very high, and she has been disloyal to her fellow democrat, by praising and endorsing McCain. The Clintons are dishonest people. They have lied their way, through all their shady dealings, and all this lying only brings back bad memories.

    Hillary Rodham Clinton is so desperate now, her camp is now talking about electoral votes to win the nomination!!! She is not ahead in the number of states won, she is behind in delegates won, no re-votes in Michigan or Florida, so now the suggestion about electoral votes.
    Hillary, get real, stop attacking your fellow democrat with your kitchen sink politics, stop the lying, and get out now, before you spoil our chances of winning in December.
  • Upland_Oddball · 1 year ago
    IIt is sad how everyday, she seems to shrink. Before long, there may be nothing left to respect.
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    Even if this story was true by Hillarys account, just exactly how does that give her foreign policy experience, I am not understanding this. Is it because she ducked sniper fire, she wasn't afraid to run in low pump heels, or her pants suit is bullet proof I just don't understand her need to lie about this story.
  • Milli · 1 year ago
    Wow.
  • nsr · 1 year ago
    Sorry. Question to ericgoldman. Links?
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    Saw Wolfson on Morning Joe this morning. Couldn't believe it. Even when WE have ALL seen the Bosnia video Wolfson is still trying to spin it into Hillary is OK and Obama is being the dirty one. It is unbelievable how these campaigns lie to our face when they have to know we know the truth. If the Dem leaders don't do something soon it will be too late and McCain will be shoo-in.
  • duchessofbilgewater · 1 year ago
    Is this mispeaking ... misleading ... lying ...getting MSM coverage?
  • lauren1959 · 1 year ago
    It is tonight!
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    The desperation of Clinton campaign makes me feel sad, angry, and scared all at the same time.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    "Mispoke" has slipped into acceptable use. Where we once called out liars, we now fudge lies with soft words like mispoke. Well, she can't escape this LIE! And Wolfson knows it.