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yeah, I know... some people are going to say "the moron church ISN'T Utah".... however, all the people in Utah that depend on OUR money are going to think twice about how nice it is that the moron church is headquartered in their state.
I'm wondering if we Californians should start raising money to put forth a bill in Utah recognizing moronism as a cult... I wonder how they'd feel about Californians mucking about with their state's politics?
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Let them say "religious discrimination" ... we'll just say "sexual orientation discrimination"!
Fight fire with fire!
That's the language from the Alameda County Recorder's Office, which is where marriage certificates are obtained. That's where we went (& got our marriage registered on the day of the election). It seems only fair we should have an opportunity to vote on a ballot measure declaring the Mormon Church "not a denomination".
ah! Canada!
http://www.bearmountain.com/index_winter.php
(if you get cold... two hours to Palm Springs!)
The article really grates me tho. To use gay, lesbian, bi as nouns has always been a pet peeve. Im sure its gramatically correct but it makes it seem those terms define the whole of us. An adjective is more partial and leaves room for broader descriptions. Guess its just semantics!
Signed,
The gay Gay
This sounds more like a winger Troll playing with folks who may not recognize his Trollish smell.
I do not book rooms or conference space in any Marriott. PERIOD!
California is way too crowded...i think several million of them should move to park-city
demographic changes can bring about change (sometimes)
push those moron Mormons out of that beautiful state and into Oklahoma and Texas
We have great skiing!
that's great news!
make it happen!
ps - no i didn't spell it wrong.
The rallys might have quieten down, but this is just the beginning of Utah being the HATE state of 2009.
Money talks. Let the games begin! :-)
Make the Hate State a Flyover State - Boycott Utah.
Frankly, I think Prop 8 was a blessing in disguise. Of course, I think it's disgusting that it passed (but not as disgusting that someone's civil rights were actually put to a popular vote), however, there are many valuable lessons here. One of the most valuable is we get to look at what happens when we become too complacent or when we just assume someone else will do the ground work and education that need to be done. Hopefully, if we are wise, we will never make the same mistake again with the rest of the Prop 8s that will undoubtedly be coming down the pike.
On a related note, the christianists have mounted a counter-boycott that's being pushed here in Connecticut: http://www.ctfamily.org/blog/2009/01/03/the-und...
That the FIC saw fit to blog re: the boycott is an indication that the "religious" freaks are scared to death of it. So keep the boycotts going.
Note that the above-referenced hate group, Family Institute of Connecticut, spawned Brian Brown who, with the fat hypocrite Maggie Gallagher runs the National Organization for Marriage -- which pushed hard for Prop 8. They raised a lot of funds for Prop 8 here in CT (those of us who are decent human beings apologize), including about $500,000.00 from the Knights of Columbus.
Boycott Utah = HATE STATE
You are financially hurting those who are... supporting gays. That's...hmmmm.
You are making a public protest against Utah. But this has been the problem from the beginning: by attacking a random entity—everyone and everything in the state in which the church resides—you aren't really making any point whatsoever.
I know, I know. The thinking is that you will get the church to change its actions because it is going to feel the financial pinch in the state as a whole. But frankly, this has been a ridiculously weak argument from the beginning. First, you aren't attacking the Church's financial interests (certainly not directly, and barely, if at all, indirectly). Second, you assume that the church is going to be motivated to change its religious decisions based upon this kind of financial damage.
The obvious thing would have been to directly attack those who did the thing you didn't like, not those who have no control over those people and their decisions. The pro-gay minority in Utah doesn't "let" the church control things. They've been the large majority here since before the state was a state. If this was a matter of the state doing something, perhaps I could see an argument for all of this. And certainly I understand the desire to fight back after what happened in California. As someone living in Utah who gave money to fight Prop 8, I was sorely and bitterly disappointed to see Californians do this.
How exactly the blame falls back upon those fighting for equality in Utah, though, is beyond me. And how attacking the state's financial interests is supposed to get a church to change its moral dictates is equally beyond me.
If you want to make a difference, actually going after the church's financial interests directly, exposing its hate and lies, and putting them on the defensive are all excellent ways to start making a difference.
Something like this boycott of Park City is, well, just dumb.
Queer Lounge at Sundance is an embarrassment, by a bunch of SELL OUTS, it also gave cover to straight celebs and corporate sponsors by ABSOLUT and GLAAD attempting to put a "gay seal of approval" on Utah tourism.
We boycott Utah because LDS OWNS prop 8 they wrote it, got it put on CA ballot, funded 4 of every 5 dollars in LYING fear mongering ads, and canvassed CA neighborhoods. The funniest thing is LDS bragged how they were sucessful on prop 8 to show other fundie bat sh*t crazies how big and bad they were.THEN the queer BLOWBACK of demonstrations erupted and boycott talks, then these sniveling cowards pointed fingers at every other group who funded or voted for prop 8.
When queers confront the Mormon Church directly we get cast as the VILLIANS attacking the nice innocent religious folks. So by cratering 6 BILLION in tourism, then Utah residents will give these LDS elders a Civics Lesson
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I understand the anger because I feel it myself. If you paint all of the people of Utah as haters than I ask you to look into what's happening in Salt Lake City, Park City,and Moab. Each of these places are progressive oasis in a backwards dessert. My kid goes to school with the children of same sex families children. Would it be better for my community if they moved in protest.Of course not we need more families like them to show all of his class mates that love is love and family is family
So I would say stay Out don't withdraw.And by Out I mean out of the closet the world needs to see you and your families. The cause of equality is furthered by your presence not your absence. The more people see your families the more they will see the injustice for what it is repulsive .The church has picked a fight that it will lose in the long run as it has made many people face a question that they would not have asked them selves other wise. As the perception of the church as bigoted forced a change in their racist policies if the seventies so will it change this hateful campaign against your families. Thanks for reading my soap box rant I hope that every one knows that there are many here in Utah are committed to the cause of Equality.
by boycotting Utah and hitting the tourist industry in the wallet... it might give them pause when they realize just how much money comes from the GLBT community.
the non-mormons in Utah tolerate the mormons, live and let live... when it impacts their wallets, they'll start seeing the mormons as a threat to their livelihoods.
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But that's not what's happening here. The church wags the tale of the state, not the other way around. If you want to impact the church's interests, you actually have to attack the church's interest, not the interests of its enemies.
The unwillingness to even engage with this argument is striking to me. Your plan appears to be:
1) Boycott gay-friendly businesses in Utah
2) ???
3) Mormon's cower in fear and don't donate to similar causes.
As for the bizarre complaint that those of us who support gay rights are somehow responsible for the fact that the church resides here? WTF? Connect the dots of your logical reasoning. We're all pretty pissed about Prop 8. This kind of lashing out may feel good, but it certainly isn't doing any.
It would be interesting to have given you the chance to paint us all with such a broad brush at the prop 8 protest in Salt Lake.I think that seeing all of the people of good will out there looking back at you would have made you understand that you weren't in the "gay friendliest part of Utah" but a gay friendly place.