Great speech. I just donated 100 bucks to the campaign. We need Obama-Biden in the White House!!!
Gary SF
· 1 year ago
I will be voting for him, but what a chickenshit. He is only comfortable talking about gays in the context of us needing rights to visit our partners in the hospital, presumably on our deathbeds. Obviously, he is much better than McCain on all issues, and that is why he is getting my vote. But I certainly don't feel 'represented' by Obama.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
Every Party has a pooper that's why we invited you......Super Duper.....Party Pooper.
Gary SF
· 1 year ago
You can't handle the truth - gays have been tossed under the bus. He doesn't support Federal rights for civil unions - he wants each State to decide. But if we are dying, he can muster up the bravery to advocate for our rights to visit one another, probably to ensure that someone is stuck with the bill.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
I just want him in office and then I'll put the pressure on...
kattywacky
· 1 year ago
I truly believe that Obama really does want you to have marriage rights but as a pragmatist cannot advocate it without severely hurting his election success. My state of Hawaii is one of the most liberal and gay-accepting states in the union, but even we voted down gay marriage by a large margin. You have to realize that it takes not a leap but careful steps toward your goal. Who would have thought even 10 years ago that a lesbian could win an emmy for her daytime show? As more and more people get used to the marriages happening in California and Massachussetts, as more people realize that gays and lesbians are regular people like everybody else, as more people realize that all people deserve the same human rights, the populace will come around, and it will not be political suicide to "come out" for gay marriage for all.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
Very nicely said. Thank you!
Gary SF
· 1 year ago
I don't buy it. As for Hawaii, same-sex marriage failed there because of the millions of dollars of tax-free money from the Mormon and Catholic churches sent there to defeat civil rights.
martha
· 1 year ago
Yea, McCain will be so much better.
Gary SF
· 1 year ago
Can you read? I wrote that I was voting for Obama and that he is much better on McCain on all issues. You really are an idiot.
mirth
· 1 year ago
Gary, I mean no disrespect.
In your single focus, as if you are only your sexual preference, you missed the context of Obama's mention of gay Americans. He was not laying out his administration's policies on gay marriage, just as he was not discussing his commitment to Roe v Wade when he stated unwanted pregnancies must be reduced. Instead he said that there are some things all Americans can agree on and one of those things is that no person should face discrimination because of their sexual identity.
Surely you recognize that this is a big country and there are many issues, near catastrophic issues. Surely you can also appreciate the circumstances at this point on the election. Expecting a major statement during a national convention on gay marriage or abortion or any other "controversial" issue affecting a single group is ridiculous and bordering on offensive.
Gary SF
· 1 year ago
Mirth, I like you, but your post is disrespectful. First, IT ISN'T A FUCKING PREFERENCE. I didn't choose or 'prefer' to be gay, it is an 'orientation' - I was born gay. I stated that I am voting for Obama and that he is better than McCain on all the issues. But on gay rights, he is either afraid to say how he feels or he is homophobic, period. I have donated money to Obama and I will vote for him. But as a gay man, he doesn't represent my interests. But he sure does seem to represent the 'faith community' and for the most part, they are the enemies of gays and lesbians.
mirth
· 1 year ago
Ohferchrissakes, Gary. There is nothing disrespectful about my reply to you. My preference - my wiring, if you will - is heterosexual; your's is homosexual. Preference/orientation - tomatoes/tomahtoes. One could even say orientation is the wrong word...you were not oriented towards your preference, you were born with it.
You pick one tiny bit from a brilliant speech and then call Obama a chickenshit because of it. And you completely ignore the point of my reply. Really, I was shocked to read your original comment.
I like you, too, which is neither here nor there.
Gary SF
· 1 year ago
OK, let me try again. You wrote 'in your single focus' as if I was only focused upon civil rights for GLBT. If that were the case, I wouldn't be voting in this election. But I clearly stated that Obama is better than McCain on all issues and that I would be for Obama. I am anything but 'single focused.' That doesn't mean I cannot criticize Obama over something that is important to me. Regarding preference, I 'prefer' that my bread be toasted on my BLT, but if is not, I still can enjoy the sandwich. But as a sexual orientation, I don't "prefer" men over women. It is not like I go out and if there are no men hotties around that I will hook up with a woman hottie. It is much deeper than that. Maybe it was a cheap shot to call you out on that. Apologies for that. Regarding specifics on same-sex rights: Homophobia lite is not enough of an improvement for me. Obama has stated and restated his stance on same-sex marriage. Marriage NO. Civil unions YES but only State by state. This is unacceptable to many of us - it feels like he is offering us 'our own water fountain,' but only where a State allows it. And those of us who are in 'bi-national' relationships really suffer in that we have no hope of living with our partners. I have the resources to move to another country to live with my partner of 9 years, but most do not. So yes, it is personal.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Hi Gary! I understand all about the faith community stuff (& it actually makes me squirm a bit) and I fully realized that he singled out the "visitation rights" issue is his speech, but do you really think he isn't going to stand up for rights if he gets into office? I know our politicians are far too scared stiff (pardon the pun) to address gay marriage, but they ALL play that meme. I don't sense that he will abdicate rights for the GLBT community. Am I truly that delusional or is it that I just need more sleep?
WPE
· 1 year ago
Fearless. That's what I keep coming back to.
Shall we keep talking about the stage, Freepers?
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
Order your yard sign and bumper sticker tonight!
TONIGHT!
houstonray
· 1 year ago
I just told my partner I was going to order our yard sign and he said "order two or three!" And he's not into politics as much as I am....
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Juan Williams, Tomming on Fox News immediately after: More prose than poetry; no memorable phrases; just a laundry list; no emotion; disrespected MLK, Jr. by barely mentioning him, and just leaving him to the end. Obama can't win.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
That quasi black son of a bitch can kiss my black ass. Refering to Juan Willimans here.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Juan is a disgusting person masquerading as a Dem/Liberal (or at least that is how Faux Noise speaks of him). I simply don't understand why someone would try to misrepresent themselves when it is so clearly evident where they fall of the political landscape.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
Are you serious? Wow, what a douche....ooops, sorry, too strong? Nah...
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
Obama hit a helluva home run this evening. Every speaker on all the nights hit it out of the park. If American ain't ready for change now, it'll never come.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
What does the Republican speaking lineup look like? Hmmm.... Bush, Giuliani, Romney, Lieberman, hmmm, am I leaving anyone out? Oh yeah, DICK CHENEY....jeesh, what a cluster f*ck that lineup will be...
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
Clusterf*ck...
PERFECT WORD!
houstonray
· 1 year ago
It took me a minute or two to figure out what fit.... :-)
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
GOP in such dire straits they can't even figure out if Bush will appear and "talk" on Monday--just 3 days away!
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Robert.
You're such a stick-in-the-mud, that I had to come back to see what you thought.
If you liked it, it must have been a 10.
rkarena
· 1 year ago
I have high standards and I like to win elections. If that makes me a stick-in-the-mud who is critical of things worthy of criticism, I'll take that. This was a good speech and the kind of speech Obama needed to deliver.
2008
· 1 year ago
Why do the mainstream media boys & girls like Campbell Brown (!) RAVE and wax melodic about Obama? They just trip all over themselves to rave about Obama on every dimension. Yes, he's quite good, BUT is it all just sucking up to the momentum or what??? I'm only used to such reverence saved for Bush, which always seems like a stretch.... So the media loves Obama?? It seems out of turn for a liberal Democrat. The MSM didn't give a tribute to Rep. Tubbs-Jones the time of day!
2008
· 1 year ago
They just called his speech a "symphony" and a "masterpiece"! With that kind of review from the people who can make or break you, IT'S IN THE BAG!
I just don't trust them, esp. the way they cover for Bush and his Constitutional violations, traitorous schemes, and war crimes on a regular basis.
I just don't get it.
sukabi1
· 1 year ago
Their corporate masters have seen the writing on the wall... McCain's got NOTHING, the Repub party can do nothing else for them, so they are "retooling" so they can keep from being destroyed in the upcoming change...
mweholt
· 1 year ago
The notion that this election is going to be close come November is hooey. Obama by 6%. Doesn't mean people won't have to work their asses off, but at least now we have something worth working our asses off for.
What a speech... I'm telling you...
2008
· 1 year ago
?? Getting rid of Bush was ALWAYS worth working our asses off for! Hello?
BTW, Clintons and Kerry, even Tammy Duckworth, were comparable, if not BETTER in their respective speeches!
(I get a little tired of all the maudlin--look at my childhood, look at my perfect marriage. Maybe that is what most people get behind, but it gets trite for me after awhile. Bill Clinton had a very hard luck upbringing, but he never milked to the point of cliche...I guess I've heard it once, I've heard it a million times.)
mweholt
· 1 year ago
BTW, Clintons and Kerry, even Tammy Duckworth, were comparable, if not BETTER in their respective speeches!
No, sorry.
2008
· 1 year ago
Oh, did you miss those speeches? They didn't get the heavy praise and attention on the MSM. Bill Clinton was astonishingly great and Kerry kicked butt, too. (Kerry said the same things with even more force!) I'm all for the anti-Bush candidate, don't get me wrong.
mweholt
· 1 year ago
I've taken time off from work and watched nearly all the speeches, including those. You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but my opinion is your assessment is absurd. But as I say, that is my opinion and you are entitled to yours.
2008
· 1 year ago
I seem to be immune to Kool-Aid--sorry! :-)
Besides the bar was high. Obama always gives fine speeches. No surprise there!
I liked the end the best. But, the first part was on par or exceeded by the others.
2008
· 1 year ago
They were all wonderful, bottomline.
2008
· 1 year ago
Bill Clinton was vintage virtuoso. And Kerry held a lot of weight having run the gauntlet JUST RECENTLY. He kept pace following Clinton. He knocked McCain to the ground.
2008
· 1 year ago
P.S. I liked Sen. Durbin's brief speech and delivery (with the exception of saying that Obama protects privacy when he voted down our rights on FISA). He and Sen. Obama were my Senators! They rock!
Obama has been a phenom for years in Illinois. People worship him and it's interesting to observe! I've seen people run up to Obama and beg for his autograph even back in 2004... it was kind of freaky. It all seems like fate!
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
Obama by 6%.
Then Obama will lose. The Bradley effect is good for more than 5%. Republican voter fraud will give them another 5-10% as they are truly desperate and know they face prison if Obama wins. No, in order to be safe, Obama needs the margins that the other Democratic office holders are going to sweep win, at least 20%. And then if Obama takes the election by such a massive landslide, look for a coup d'etat, Bush pulling another false flag operation and declaring marshall law, probably accusing Obama and Democrats of attacking this nation.
mweholt
· 1 year ago
*Sigh*... you know... on a night like this, after a speech like Obama just gave, I don't have the stomach for this place right now. I'm going to go enjoy the rest of the evening. Change is on the way... :)
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
Change is on the way ....
I hope you are right. But even if Obama loses, Congress will be overwhelmingly Democratic and filabuster-proof in the Senate. Much as I would hate to see McCain in the Oval Office, he won't have the free hand to commit the destruction repeating the Bush administration crimes. If you haven't noticed, the Democrats at this convention are different from the cowards that I have accused again and again of hiding under their beds. These were Democrats who boldly stood up to the Bush administration and the Republicans, challenged them and actually accused them of crimes, lying and failure. Even if McCain is the president, these Democrats are going to investigate the Bush administration, and prosecute them. What I fear may stop the Democrats is the complicity of the top Democrats, Pelosi, Reid, Feinstein and others with the worst crimes of the Bush administration.
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
This point is very important. The margins have to be bigger. I wish to god that Bob Barr or Ron Paul were gaining some momentum, ala Ross Perot in '92. If the election is this close, the Diebolding will work, at least to get the matter to the SCOTUS and you can be sure they will crown McStain.
SouthernYankee
· 1 year ago
WOW WOW WOW What a speech. I knew he had it in him. My son and I sat in our living room watching the speech jumping up and down clapping tears down our cheeks. He gets it he gets it. Finally he took it to McCain like a gentleman.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
Obama is building....
He did n't want to shoot his wad in August.....
Wait till October.......He'll be fired up and AMERICA will be fired up!
Ruttle
· 1 year ago
What a great speech! Obama really scored big - this is the Obama I have been waiting for and hoping to hear. Great job!
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Brokaw is about to come on. Time to change the channel. I don't need to hear that old fart crap all over this beautiful night.
pilgrim_billy99
· 1 year ago
The difference between tonight's acceptance speech and every other one I've seen: the number of families, kids in the audience.
Amazingly striking. And a wonderful speech.
jimfromthefoothills
· 1 year ago
Grand Slam
ComradeRutherford
· 1 year ago
I was most moved by seeing a brown-skinned family! Seriously, it was great to see a young candidate, a black man. that was very moving.
The one thing I noticed, and this is a nitpicky thing, is that Obama does not seem to know how to work the crowd. In speeches like these there are lines that you build up to and deliver that one line with a zing. He seemed out of synch with the crowd. They would start to cheer half-way through a paragraph, not at the punchline, and he diden't go with the flow, he seemed too focused on delivering that punchline, even if the crowd couldn't hear it cause they were cheering too hard...
But that's not anything big. I have no problem with is delivery, that to me shows he's more os a real person, rather than a polished, professional, lifelong bureaucrat.
I did find my attention wandering. I was far more fascinated with seeing a black man nominated for President! Way cool!
eaprez
· 1 year ago
A lot of that probably had to do with wrapping it up for the 11PM news!
rkarena
· 1 year ago
That's exactly what was going on. Tough to do, but I think from the TV side of things it worked okay to me.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
I'd say, in his defense, that he had a 45 minute speech that he needed to keep forging ahead with; stopping for every applause line would have diminished the energy of the speaker and the crowd if it went more than that length of time.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
I was in the stadium tonight, trust me Obama NEVER had to work the crowd, they were with him from the beginning to the end. His pauses were because the crowd was going nuts over what he was saying. Never have I seen so many people in sync with cheering.
DAB
· 1 year ago
Also -- he and others were apparently coached not to let the crowd applause deter them from delivering their lines, because by and large, the television audience can hear the microphones far better than the ambient crowd noise, so that responding only to the rhythm of the crowd would make for a far more awkward (or at least distanced) experience for the television audience. So the thinking goes: play to the TV cameras, not the crowd in the stadium.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
People have talked about hitting home runs the last couple of nights, but tonight Obama hit a grand slammer.
dad
· 1 year ago
ENOUGH!
Sen. Obama makes me proud.
WPE
· 1 year ago
I honestly thought it was kind of flat for a few minutes. Maybe it's just because the speakers have been so good the last 2 nights, plus he's delivered amazing speeches so many other times. But when he got to the specifics, and linked those to attacks on McBusheney, that was when he really starting hitting his stride. And the instant response from the repugs? Caught with their pants around their ankles and their asses in the breeze.
dad
· 1 year ago
honestly?
houstonray
· 1 year ago
I think this speech will be talked about for years to come...just heard a talking head guy say that he believes it's the best convention speech since Kennedy...
houstonray
· 1 year ago
Great line I just heard: One of the Republican pundits on CNN said (loosely quoting) that he "believes whoever didn't get called today for McCain's VP is probably a very lucky Republican..."
HA!!!!! So very true!!!!!!!!
dad
· 1 year ago
psst - lieberman
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Anyone but me have a problem with the whole concept "Harry and Louise" need to learn us on health care?
I'm old enough to remember watching those two boobs tear apart Hillary Clinton's plan because it wouldn't provide Americans with enough "choice." Now they are back bitching because they don't have health care. Yea, I know the first time around it was the insurance companies who paid them and now its health care organizations who are lobbying FOR change this time, but still... I remember GRINDING my teeth and wanting to throw a brick through the television when they first showed up. I'm be ashamed to even show my face if I were these two actors much less do a commercial bitching about the failure of health care since they helped CAUSE the failure by doing Republican's bidding.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
I think one of the original Harry and Louise groups switched sides and brought the characters with them.
One of his BEST speeches ever, in fact, I have never heard anything quite like this one. He masterfully dismissed the rethuglican attacks about him, and only a half brained twit would not have understood, what he planned to change in this country. It will be hard for an insipid candidate like McPain to top this one. We had better watch out for the slime and mud slinging tomorrow, when they will tear Obama, and even orchestrate some kind of news, just to slow his momentum. Wow, we should be proud to have Obama as President, because finally, we will have an excellent orator, and not a incoherent idiot like Bush.
eaprez
· 1 year ago
One word sums up the whole speech....a word Barack himself used.........ENOUGH!
ClintonHater
· 1 year ago
Wow. Greatest Speech I ever heard from a Democrat (I'm relatively young). I can't remember the last time any of our spineless Democrats defended Government. It almost brought tears to my eyes.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
I disagree. I thought there were many, many outstanding speeches at this Democratic Convention, many, many that knocked them out of the park and well into the parking lot. Hillary's speech was a home run, but I thought she held back though that may be my great dislike for her, but as much as I dispise Bill, he held nothing back even if his fingers were crossed behind his back, we couldn't see it. Kerry was the Kerry of 1972, the brave returned Vietnam hero who had the courage to speak against that war rather than the cautious, timid candidate who didn't risk anything in 2004. The one in 2004 was the pod person, but that was the real Kerry at the Democratic convention.
I suspect that events are leading Obama. I thought many of the Democrats were out in front of Obama and pulling him in the direction they had the vision to see he needed to go. Obama is an outstanding speaker, articulate, intelligent and charismatic, but the Democratic speakers were way out in front of him, showing him the way. He may not have any choice as the others in the party were very liberal and he will have no choice but to be more liberal than any Black politician except for radicals like Maxine Waters or Cynthia McKinney dare to be. If so, he will be one of our greatest presidents shaped by the need to fix the near total collapse, the wreckage, of this nation left by Bush. It will take a great, great, great president to restore this nation to what it should be from the devastation, the Bush desolation devoid of even a blade of grass or the stump of a tree. I just pray that before Bush leaves office, he doesn’t convert it into a glowing, radioactive wasteland out of spite.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Whereas I agree with much of what you say, I must comment on your assertion that "the other Democrats" were leading Obama. This man is unique qualified for this role in so many ways, but his huge strength in writing and oratory skills out do ANY person I have seen on stage in all of my years. I suggest that where the other speakers were fabulous, I think that it is Obama who was leading the way.
Remember, his campaign makes the speaking assignments as well as having final edit control.
ComradeRutherford
· 1 year ago
"radicals like Maxine Waters or Cynthia McKinney"
Huh? They are not 'radical'. They ARE the Democratic Party of pre-1980 far-right extremism. That far-right extremism took over the GOP and pulled the nation into right-wing land over the last 28 years. The nation has been dragged so far into the John Birch Society region, and the Media has gladly gone along, that it only appears from their lens that Waters and McKinney are 'radical'.
Similarly, the rest of the Democratic speakers are barely 'liberal' at all, they only appear so because the nation has lurched so very far to the right. I see it that about 90% of Dems in Congress today espouse moderate Republican ideals, and only 5%, (like Waters, McKinney, Kucinich, Sanders) are still actual Democrats.
Just because they call themselves Democrats doesn't mean that they are, when they enable GOP legislation.
I strongly suggest that you take a look at the last 75 years (since FDR) of history and judge today's Democratic Leadership by an average of the past. It becomes very clear that today's Democrats are hardly 'liberal' at all, it's only the right-wing controlled media and politicians that say that - just do they can keep dragging America into the extreme far-right.
ClintonHater
· 1 year ago
Hillary's speech sucked. She didn't even say Obama was ready to be commander-in-chief. Hillary can suck my balls.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
I can't wait to watch the SPLIT SCREEN - Hurricane Gustav ripping the Gulf Coast vs. Republican Convention next week. bwah hahahaaaa!
BY THE WAY, where was all the "Focus on the Family" FLOODING? Oh yeah, its going to hit the REPUBLICANS right between the eyes NEXT WEEK during their convention:
Well this weekend is "Southern Decadence" in NOLA...so if that Gustav lands anywhere near NOLA, you can bet the Jeebus Freakers will blame us faggots on it once again. Ain't it grand to have all this power???? I mean a little weekend party of good quality butt fucking can bring on a devastating hurricane or tornado? I love having that kind of power!!!!!
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Karl Rove seemed gobsmacked on Fox News: Brit cut him off, since his tepid criticism of the speech was boring him (and us). Krauthammer seemed impressed initially until his mad puppet persona kicked in and then he claimed Obama's policy proposals were just typical Democrat tax and spend, and disastrous for "entrepreneurs."
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Karl is peeing his pants... He knows if Democrats get in, his jig is up. All the dirty secrets are gonna spill out. Remember, his theory was Republicans would control the government as the permanent majority and the ends would justify the means. He is in major danger of criminal prosecution when we get a REAL attorney general.
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
Shit I wonder what Jeffy Lube Gannon will do for income once Karl is behind bars?
JamesR
· 1 year ago
"Jeffy Lube" Lol
- But wouldn't there then be an opening at Fox for a new political commentator?
Probably have to do Roger Ailes. Though I don't know how the 'pay' vs. 'work' could ever be reconciled.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
I'm sure he will continued to be paid hush money from Republican coffers for the REST OF HIS LIFE.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Keith Olbermann just reported AP - Fournier is AT IT again. Fournier just allowed Charles Babbington to write a HIT PIECE on Obama tonight.
Something needs to be done about the AP's obvious partisanship!
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
I'M GONNA FAINT! Pat Buchanan was WON OVER by Obama tonight.
NO WAY! I'm fainting...
ClintonHater
· 1 year ago
Buchanan gushed over Obama's speech, now I've heard everything.
ComradeRutherford
· 1 year ago
It'll be raining frogs any minute now...
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
I swear I saw some locusts headed this way. and four hourses.
jcgraham77
· 1 year ago
I think we should send McCain keys for all those houses. I have created a website just for that. The link contains the addy. I am not sure if I can post links on here or if it is illegal to post the address on the site but oh well. I am sending him my extra keys tomorrow via snail mail. He prolly needs em! http://housekeysformccain.blogspot.com/
ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith)
· 1 year ago
When even Pat Buchanon is gushing, you know it had to be that good a speech.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Well Pat Buchanon loved the speech. I can sleep easy now. ;)
The republicans are in such trouble. There is no way they can get even close to the Dem convention. Especially with McCain as their "star" attraction. I f the polls still show a close race 2 weeks from now, this country is fucked.
ComradeRutherford
· 1 year ago
The polls are all rigged, it is self-evident.
When Obama can easily fill a stadium with 75,000 people and McCain can barely get 3,000, by what metric are the polls even?
The polls have to show the candidates as being within 5% of each other so that it sounds plausible when Diebold 'counts' the votes and hands the White House to McCain.
Catman51
· 1 year ago
Bravo, Obama. Anyone that votes for McSame is a total ahole.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
AM I DREAMING? I'm pinching myself... Chris Matthews just chastised Karl Rove for dividing America and talked about how UNPATRIOTIC Rove and the Bu$h admin have been by tearing our country down and apart.
ITS A NEW DAY! A BRAND NEW DAY!
2008
· 1 year ago
Maybe the MSM really have a conscience, but are too scared. My father, a journalist from the best-ranked J-School in the country, always told me that most real journalists do lean left... The corporations that employ Tweety, however, are not anywhere near left....
Maybe the MSM is finally going hogwild about a Dem b/c of the perception that Obama is so strong and popular. Maybe it provides cover for them to give their true opinion. That would be awesome and another feather in Obama's cap, if true.
lucky hussein
· 1 year ago
My 2 cents: timing and patience key to counterpunch, good job obama. finally fighting back. country vocals at the end, very nice touch, we're united states, not red and blue I still don't expect fundamental change of the political system from someone who appears to be a neo-liberal fireworks and set: shades of Leni Riefenstahl
houstonray
· 1 year ago
Has anyone heard the official McSame statement about the speech? I tried not to listen but I did hear something about "When the temple comes down, the fireworks end, and the words are over, ..."
"The Temple..." WHAT. EVER.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
I'm just wondering WHICH LUCKY "FOCUS ON THE FAMILY" friend will be speaking at the Republican Convention when they have to go to SPLIT SCREEN to show Hurricane Gustav pounding our Gulf Coast?
By the way, LOVED THE WEATHER at Invesco field. It looked just BEAUTIFUL!
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
david brooks on PBS has been struggling for 4 days to sound wise and impartial. but obama's transcendant speech tonite was his undoing. he mumbled something about how it would have come off better in a closed arena and how it would only appeal to hard-core democrats. the other guys could only shake their heads. michael beschloss calmly declared it to be better than kennedy's amazing acceptance speech in 1960. brooks is a laughing stock. hate when that happens to a nice guy.
lucky hussein
· 1 year ago
very nice - i saw juan williams on faux say it didn't have a big takeaway and in that sense it fell short..
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
just one of about a dozen takeaway lines: "In Washington, they call this the ownership society. But what it means is, you're on your own"
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Good thing nobody pays attention to Juan Williams.
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
Juan Williams falls short. ask his wife.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
"Keep it small and noncombative."
Good advice, Brooksie.
Joneses
· 1 year ago
We have had 8 years, let's see a new 4 years from a Dem.
I followed along with the speech with Americablog.com. I read while O was speaking. Thank you for that experience.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Did I just hear Matthews kicking Al Sharpton's ass about not doing enough to fight vote fraud?
I only caught the end of it, but that's sure what it sounded like.
Something about going down there and fighting it when it happens instead of afterward.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
I'm liking this Howard Beale version of cable nooz...So what anchors fight? Caring deeply is good isn't it? The just friends pretense was getting a little much when knee-deep in blood. Some guy with a bullhorn, for hours, kept screaming "911 was an inside job" over and over to such a level MSNBC viewers had difficulty understanding anchors and guests. Of course I'd prefer real journalism but short of that GE's hamster wheel has, at least, gotten a bit more entertaining.
devis1
· 1 year ago
He was just repeating back to Sharpton what he had himself just said. Sharpton said they have a "not this time" plan in place so they don't have a pity party the day after the election.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
I just got home from Invesco field and still have a tremendous good feeling about being a Democrat. Almost 80,000 people cheering and shouting. Never have I heard such an outstanding speech by a presidential candidate. This man brought the crowd to their feet throughout the speech. Flags were passed out before the opening and those flags were waved in mass almost during the whole speech.
As a side note, Bill Richardson whipped the crowd to a frenzy with his speech.
All in all, I am glad I went.
devis1
· 1 year ago
You lucky dawg!!!
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
I was thinking of you tonight! I'm glad things went so well and I would have loved to be there with you (damn it all!).
Joneses
· 1 year ago
Seems like that team on NBC cable on drugs?
Of course, the corporate media will insert that McCain was a POW.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
How silly all the Rethuglican pre-speech commentary seems in retrospect... The column thing, the PA echo thing, the overwhelming setting thing, the too popular thing, all seem in calm reflection the destructive, thoughtless natterings of judgemental, agenda-driven biddies
Apphouse50
· 1 year ago
...all true, but you left out "sour grapes."
Last night I kept thinking of the GOP as a party filled with guys who got beat up a lot in grade school, and got sand regularly kicked in their faces at the beach.
I had to watch it with a GOP couple. The husband wasn't really open to listening. The wife just sat quietly and listened. When I asked her for her reaction, she said it was a "good speech".
I guess that settles it. He hit it out of the park.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
EIGHT IS ENOUGH!!!
canuck55
· 1 year ago
A speech that will ring through history not only because of its content and delivery, but due to the historical significance of a black man being nominated for president. Inspiring, tough, witty, sentimental and loaded with specific policy statements. And to be able to go through 29 specific policy statements and keep the speech captivating - masterful. John McCain be afraid, be very, very afraid. Or better yet, get all pissed off and blow your top, that would be fun! And he's going to pick Tim Polenta?
Joneses
· 1 year ago
Rove has looked at the VP sheet and determined, as Cheney......
The corporate media will be on 200% or more negative on O.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
In all of my 36 years of voting (& 46 years of watching politics), I have never seen nor heard a speech quite like this one. It had a tenor that was composed with highs and lows, the visuals were exquisite, but the best part, the very best part was when Obama began speaking to us; the ones for whom the disintegration of the nation and Constitution have hurt the most. As Obama reminded us, we are the ones who have the hope of a better nation, we are the ones can change this country and we are the ones who can provide the necessary strength and organization to put this man into the position of power we so sorely need.
This evening, conservatives from Bill Kristol to Pat Buchanan, Tom Brokaw to Brian William all raved about the speech with the conversation sometimes actually verging on sappy and fawning praise (can you imagine?). It was historic, it was a speech like no one has written or spoken, within a venue that matched the character of the moments shared.
Now it seems odd to me that within a progressive blog, one of their main bloggers (Robert Arena) takes such a timid, quiet and seemingly detached manner when reviewing the speech and the convention in total. Take a look at the phrasing, the disparaging conversational style with which all things political are discussed. Now we all have our own varied political positions and passions so perhaps it is just me, but Robert's posts seem to be continually snide in tone and light in providing information. I really find this disturbing.
Perhaps I should get ready for a swift boot in the cyber pants or an immediate banning, but I really felt it necessary to bring this up within a blog that I like. Here's hoping...
SarainKC
· 1 year ago
Best line- "It's time the Republicans OWN their failure".
With everything so wrong and the reality of the work we will have to do to clean this mess still ahead, I can't help it. I have never been so proud to be an American in my life.
Yes we can, indeed! :)
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
thank you Rob. I haven't watched the speech yet..can't wait!
i love that Obama is hitting on the fundamental differences between dems and GOPers...
we're in this together vs. you're on your own, and oh, try the emergency room, loser.
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FREAKIN.
CRAP.
Obama was amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The gloves have come off!!!!!!!
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In your single focus, as if you are only your sexual preference, you missed the context of Obama's mention of gay Americans. He was not laying out his administration's policies on gay marriage, just as he was not discussing his commitment to Roe v Wade when he stated unwanted pregnancies must be reduced. Instead he said that there are some things all Americans can agree on and one of those things is that no person should face discrimination because of their sexual identity.
Surely you recognize that this is a big country and there are many issues, near catastrophic issues. Surely you can also appreciate the circumstances at this point on the election. Expecting a major statement during a national convention on gay marriage or abortion or any other "controversial" issue affecting a single group is ridiculous and bordering on offensive.
You pick one tiny bit from a brilliant speech and then call Obama a chickenshit because of it. And you completely ignore the point of my reply. Really, I was shocked to read your original comment.
I like you, too, which is neither here nor there.
I understand all about the faith community stuff (& it actually makes me squirm a bit) and I fully realized that he singled out the "visitation rights" issue is his speech, but do you really think he isn't going to stand up for rights if he gets into office? I know our politicians are far too scared stiff (pardon the pun) to address gay marriage, but they ALL play that meme. I don't sense that he will abdicate rights for the GLBT community. Am I truly that delusional or is it that I just need more sleep?
Shall we keep talking about the stage, Freepers?
TONIGHT!
PERFECT WORD!
You're such a stick-in-the-mud, that I had to come back to see what you thought.
If you liked it, it must have been a 10.
Campbell Brown (!) RAVE and wax melodic about
Obama? They just trip all over themselves to rave
about Obama on every dimension. Yes, he's quite
good, BUT is it all just sucking up to the momentum
or what???
I'm only used to such reverence saved for Bush,
which always seems like a stretch....
So the media loves Obama?? It seems out of
turn for a liberal Democrat. The MSM didn't
give a tribute to Rep. Tubbs-Jones the time of
day!
"masterpiece"! With that kind of review from the
people who can make or break you, IT'S IN THE
BAG!
I just don't trust them, esp. the way they cover for
Bush and his Constitutional violations, traitorous
schemes, and war crimes on a regular basis.
I just don't get it.
What a speech... I'm telling you...
our asses off for! Hello?
BTW, Clintons and Kerry, even Tammy Duckworth,
were comparable, if not BETTER in their respective
speeches!
(I get a little tired of all the maudlin--look at my childhood,
look at my perfect marriage. Maybe that is what most people
get behind, but it gets trite for me after awhile. Bill Clinton
had a very hard luck upbringing, but he never milked to the point of cliche...I guess I've heard it once, I've heard it a million times.)
were comparable, if not BETTER in their respective
speeches!
No, sorry.
Bill Clinton was astonishingly great and Kerry kicked butt, too. (Kerry said the same things with even more force!) I'm all for the anti-Bush candidate, don't get me wrong.
Besides the bar was high. Obama always gives fine speeches. No surprise there!
I liked the end the best. But, the first part was on par or exceeded by the others.
Obama has been a phenom for years in Illinois. People worship him and it's interesting to observe! I've seen people run up to Obama and beg for his autograph even back in 2004... it was kind of freaky.
It all seems like fate!
Then Obama will lose. The Bradley effect is good for more than 5%. Republican voter fraud will give them another 5-10% as they are truly desperate and know they face prison if Obama wins. No, in order to be safe, Obama needs the margins that the other Democratic office holders are going to sweep win, at least 20%. And then if Obama takes the election by such a massive landslide, look for a coup d'etat, Bush pulling another false flag operation and declaring marshall law, probably accusing Obama and Democrats of attacking this nation.
I hope you are right. But even if Obama loses, Congress will be overwhelmingly Democratic and filabuster-proof in the Senate. Much as I would hate to see McCain in the Oval Office, he won't have the free hand to commit the destruction repeating the Bush administration crimes. If you haven't noticed, the Democrats at this convention are different from the cowards that I have accused again and again of hiding under their beds. These were Democrats who boldly stood up to the Bush administration and the Republicans, challenged them and actually accused them of crimes, lying and failure. Even if McCain is the president, these Democrats are going to investigate the Bush administration, and prosecute them. What I fear may stop the Democrats is the complicity of the top Democrats, Pelosi, Reid, Feinstein and others with the worst crimes of the Bush administration.
He did n't want to shoot his wad in August.....
Wait till October.......He'll be fired up and AMERICA will be fired up!
Amazingly striking. And a wonderful speech.
The one thing I noticed, and this is a nitpicky thing, is that Obama does not seem to know how to work the crowd. In speeches like these there are lines that you build up to and deliver that one line with a zing. He seemed out of synch with the crowd. They would start to cheer half-way through a paragraph, not at the punchline, and he diden't go with the flow, he seemed too focused on delivering that punchline, even if the crowd couldn't hear it cause they were cheering too hard...
But that's not anything big. I have no problem with is delivery, that to me shows he's more os a real person, rather than a polished, professional, lifelong bureaucrat.
I did find my attention wandering. I was far more fascinated with seeing a black man nominated for President! Way cool!
Sen. Obama makes me proud.
HA!!!!! So very true!!!!!!!!
http://www.harryandlouisereturn.com
I'm old enough to remember watching those two boobs tear apart Hillary Clinton's plan because it wouldn't provide Americans with enough "choice." Now they are back bitching because they don't have health care. Yea, I know the first time around it was the insurance companies who paid them and now its health care organizations who are lobbying FOR change this time, but still... I remember GRINDING my teeth and wanting to throw a brick through the television when they first showed up. I'm be ashamed to even show my face if I were these two actors much less do a commercial bitching about the failure of health care since they helped CAUSE the failure by doing Republican's bidding.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0808/The...
We had better watch out for the slime and mud slinging tomorrow, when they will tear Obama, and even orchestrate some kind of news, just to slow his momentum.
Wow, we should be proud to have Obama as President, because finally, we will have an excellent orator, and not a incoherent idiot like Bush.
I suspect that events are leading Obama. I thought many of the Democrats were out in front of Obama and pulling him in the direction they had the vision to see he needed to go. Obama is an outstanding speaker, articulate, intelligent and charismatic, but the Democratic speakers were way out in front of him, showing him the way. He may not have any choice as the others in the party were very liberal and he will have no choice but to be more liberal than any Black politician except for radicals like Maxine Waters or Cynthia McKinney dare to be. If so, he will be one of our greatest presidents shaped by the need to fix the near total collapse, the wreckage, of this nation left by Bush. It will take a great, great, great president to restore this nation to what it should be from the devastation, the Bush desolation devoid of even a blade of grass or the stump of a tree. I just pray that before Bush leaves office, he doesn’t convert it into a glowing, radioactive wasteland out of spite.
Remember, his campaign makes the speaking assignments as well as having final edit control.
Huh? They are not 'radical'. They ARE the Democratic Party of pre-1980 far-right extremism. That far-right extremism took over the GOP and pulled the nation into right-wing land over the last 28 years. The nation has been dragged so far into the John Birch Society region, and the Media has gladly gone along, that it only appears from their lens that Waters and McKinney are 'radical'.
Similarly, the rest of the Democratic speakers are barely 'liberal' at all, they only appear so because the nation has lurched so very far to the right. I see it that about 90% of Dems in Congress today espouse moderate Republican ideals, and only 5%, (like Waters, McKinney, Kucinich, Sanders) are still actual Democrats.
Just because they call themselves Democrats doesn't mean that they are, when they enable GOP legislation.
I strongly suggest that you take a look at the last 75 years (since FDR) of history and judge today's Democratic Leadership by an average of the past. It becomes very clear that today's Democrats are hardly 'liberal' at all, it's only the right-wing controlled media and politicians that say that - just do they can keep dragging America into the extreme far-right.
BY THE WAY, where was all the "Focus on the Family" FLOODING? Oh yeah, its going to hit the REPUBLICANS right between the eyes NEXT WEEK during their convention:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohxdvio9n2Q
Seriously though, I hear ya!!!
- But wouldn't there then be an opening at Fox for a new political commentator?
Probably have to do Roger Ailes. Though I don't know how the 'pay' vs. 'work' could ever be reconciled.
Something needs to be done about the AP's obvious partisanship!
NO WAY! I'm fainting...
http://housekeysformccain.blogspot.com/
The republicans are in such trouble. There is no way they can get even close to the Dem convention. Especially with McCain as their "star" attraction. I f the polls still show a close race 2 weeks from now, this country is fucked.
When Obama can easily fill a stadium with 75,000 people and McCain can barely get 3,000, by what metric are the polls even?
The polls have to show the candidates as being within 5% of each other so that it sounds plausible when Diebold 'counts' the votes and hands the White House to McCain.
ITS A NEW DAY! A BRAND NEW DAY!
scared. My father, a journalist from the best-ranked
J-School in the country, always told me that most real
journalists do lean left... The corporations that employ
Tweety, however, are not anywhere near left....
Maybe the MSM is finally going hogwild about a Dem
b/c of the perception that Obama is so strong and
popular. Maybe it provides cover for them to give
their true opinion. That would be awesome and
another feather in Obama's cap, if true.
country vocals at the end, very nice touch, we're united states, not red and blue
I still don't expect fundamental change of the political system from someone who appears to be a neo-liberal
fireworks and set: shades of Leni Riefenstahl
"The Temple..."
WHAT.
EVER.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohxdvio9n2Q
God don't like it when you PRAY against people!
By the way, LOVED THE WEATHER at Invesco field. It looked just BEAUTIFUL!
"In Washington, they call this the ownership society. But what it means is, you're on your own"
Good advice, Brooksie.
I followed along with the speech with Americablog.com. I read while O was speaking. Thank you for that experience.
I only caught the end of it, but that's sure what it sounded like.
Something about going down there and fighting it when it happens instead of afterward.
Some guy with a bullhorn, for hours, kept screaming "911 was an inside job" over and over to such a level MSNBC viewers had difficulty understanding anchors and guests.
Of course I'd prefer real journalism but short of that GE's hamster wheel has, at least, gotten a bit more entertaining.
As a side note, Bill Richardson whipped the crowd to a frenzy with his speech.
All in all, I am glad I went.
Of course, the corporate media will insert that McCain was a POW.
The column thing, the PA echo thing, the overwhelming setting thing, the too popular thing, all seem in calm reflection the destructive, thoughtless natterings of judgemental, agenda-driven biddies
Last night I kept thinking of the GOP as a party filled with guys who got beat up a lot in grade school, and got sand regularly kicked in their faces at the beach.
Images I'll treasure forever. Thank you, Obama/Biden.
I guess that settles it. He hit it out of the park.
And he's going to pick Tim Polenta?
The corporate media will be on 200% or more negative on O.
This evening, conservatives from Bill Kristol to Pat Buchanan, Tom Brokaw to Brian William all raved about the speech with the conversation sometimes actually verging on sappy and fawning praise (can you imagine?). It was historic, it was a speech like no one has written or spoken, within a venue that matched the character of the moments shared.
Now it seems odd to me that within a progressive blog, one of their main bloggers (Robert Arena) takes such a timid, quiet and seemingly detached manner when reviewing the speech and the convention in total. Take a look at the phrasing, the disparaging conversational style with which all things political are discussed. Now we all have our own varied political positions and passions so perhaps it is just me, but Robert's posts seem to be continually snide in tone and light in providing information. I really find this disturbing.
Perhaps I should get ready for a swift boot in the cyber pants or an immediate banning, but I really felt it necessary to bring this up within a blog that I like. Here's hoping...
With everything so wrong and the reality of the work we will have to do to clean this mess still ahead, I can't help it. I have never been so proud to be an American in my life.
Yes we can, indeed! :)
i love that Obama is hitting on the fundamental differences between dems and GOPers...
we're in this together vs. you're on your own, and oh, try the emergency room, loser.