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AMERICAblog: Dublin archbishop gets it

  • Wesinoregon · 6 months ago
    The Catholics... Where to start? If ever there was a misrepresentation of Christ that is it. They weren't even there when Christ died. They have NO concept of Christ. All they do is worship Mary. And those boring beads. Give me a break.
  • RainbowPhoenix · 6 months ago
    Mary is not worshipped by the Catholic Church. Stick to the legitimate criticisms. There are plenty of them.
  • Wesinoregon · 6 months ago
    Prayers? Worship? Quite nearly the same. Here is what I base my thoughts on. Read it for yourself. I agree with it.

    http://www.bible-knowledge.com/Praying-to-Dead-...

    And it's legitimate even though you don't agree.
  • RainbowPhoenix · 6 months ago
    It is different. I'm not saying anything about the legitimacy of that particular view, just in how Catholic doctrine is represented.
  • AdmNaismith · 6 months ago
    In the meantime, this Onion article pretty much sums up the rest of the Catholic Church:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27834
  • Indigo · 6 months ago
    That makes sense.
  • munjoyfan · 6 months ago
    oh oh. Gonna have to sell the Waterford......
    Really, I have to weigh in with sympathy for the good priests who have been toiling away inside an institution festering with human evil. How demoralizing. Were the priesthood open to women, this never would have happened to this degree.
  • Mike Greb · 6 months ago
    The Church is not really that diffrent than say, the police, congress, unions and other groups. They take care of their own and will not admit that any of their group has done anything wrong untill absolutly forced to.
  • TampaZeke · 6 months ago
    Not ALL of them are getting it. One spokesman from the Catholic Church went on TV in Ireland and outright blamed gay men for the whole pedophile scandal. Thankfully he was called out and dressed down by church officials who tried to make it clear that he didn't speak for the church. Sadly it seems that he actually DOES speak for the official church since this is the same diversion tactic shit that Pope Benedict has been trying to use.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/24/cat...
  • Mario · 6 months ago
    Exactly - Catholic leaders and their followers have been blaming gays for years - making a bogus link between paedophilia and adult homosexuality in order to hide their very own crimes. They say loving gay and lesbian relationships hurt families - when in fact their own dogma and behaviour has done inexcusable damage to so many lives and families.

    These people of cloth are low life’s - mongrels of humanity that deserve no respect. I hope those that have so devotedly followed this dogma of hatred will reflect a little on the scam that is the Catholic brotherhood.
  • Rob Mule · 6 months ago
    people with practically no morals

    Or, in the case of the current pontiff, no morals whatsoever.
    I just got a fund raiser from my Catholic then all-boys high school. Should I give my donation in memory of the Christian brother who had sex with many members of his swim team and directly contributed to the suicide of two, the boy rapist priest with the overnight camping club, the Christian Brother who liked to strip boys and beat them in an unused locker room or the Christian Brother school administrator who was having near nightly after hours sex with a secretary in the school offices???
  • John · 6 months ago
    The Catholic Church has always been an enigma. The official Vatican line is about as backward as it gets. But there has always been an uneasy tension between dogma and reality. Of course, most Catholic priests expect you to condemn homosexuality in public. But if you have a little hairy man-love on the side, they are very "wink-wink" about it. It doesn't really bother them that much. Just keep up the pretense and everything's fine.

    What we call "hypocrisy" today has been a part of the Catholic tradition for centuries. And that's why it is impossible to figure the Catholics out. You may think you have them nailed down theologically, philosophically, scientifically...but then they do something entirely unexpected. It is both fustrating and fascinating.
  • Pugglesworth · 6 months ago
  • Father_Time · 6 months ago
    I actually heard two priests discussing how the laity are to; “shut up, obey, and, suffer like they are supposed too“.
  • mark swiss · 6 months ago
    Sorry Mrs. Murphy I stuck my dick in your sons ass as and had your daughter watch; I beat him for tempting me, and her for watching.
    Can we talk?
    Have a little a dialogue, or maybe bring in the neighbors maybe the rest of the town if you like, and we can and have massive debate and will see if that will help.
    W.T.F. are we negotiate with pedophiles now?


    It's May 2009. I am in New York. In Ireland where I was born the government has just released a 2,600-page report “Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse”. A report dealing with the sexual and physical and mental abuse of children's who were taken from destitute families and placed under the care of nuns and catholic brothers.

    Two weeks ago I was sitting at a dinner party discussing the movie Doubt. I was the only one was willing to stand up for the priests innocence. I endured some mocking for that stance. If that dinner party happened again I would not come to the defense of the priest; it’s not that I still don’t believe the priest was a good man. It’s now after this report I simply don't believe he worked for organization that can be defended.

    I no longer care. I imagine this is how the Irish people will deal with the Catholic Church they will ignore them into irrelevancy. A fate they have brought upon themselves. The Irish have stood by the Catholic Church since 500ad. It's been a long marriage. But even a long marriage can only withstand so many betrayals.

    For years the citizens of Ireland have been pummeled with Catholic Church scandals of all stripes financial, sexual, and theological. What has changed in Ireland over the last 15 years is not or the behavior of the Catholic Church. What has changed are the people of Ireland.

    I cannot make it clear enough. It is not the behavior of the Catholic Church that has changed, they have always behaved scandalously. The Irish people have changed and now the outrages behaviors are visible to all. The Irish are no longer browbeaten, guilt ridden and isolated; under the direction of the very people indulging in the disgraceful behavior. Behavior that would make a brothel worker blush.

    The Irish people now have an objective measure of what is wicked. There is no longer any need to go, cap in hand, to ask the priest or the Bishop what they should do. As a consequence, there is now a second authority that can say, “look you f**kers this is outrageous behavior stop it”. And in 2009 they can do it without fear of reprisal.

    Even at this late stage there are apologists for the Catholic Church. These people point the finger of blame at the congregation for not speaking out. I can only imagine that these are the same people who would turn red faced with some combination of embarrassment and anger if one of the sheep of the flock had in the past point the finger of blame at a member of the clergy for some wrongdoing. The fact that such apologists are blind to the irony expressed in their opinion simply gives a sounding to the depth of the brainwashing the Irish people have had to extract themselves from.

    It is becoming clear that the Catholic Church, wherever else it might be, is without a doubt an organized group of men engage in pedophilia and in hiding pedophiles.

    This particular pope as worked for the last 20 years covering up child sexual abuse by priests all over the world.

    Please see the documentary
    Crisis in the Irish Catholic Church
    it's on YouTube.

    If the pope were the head of any other organization he would be arrest. If he ever set foot outside his little country, the Vatican, he would be handcuffed charged with at least 3 crimes, endangering minors, harboring pedophiles and obstructing justice. He would then be put in prison to await trial.

    I wish the Irish people the wherewithal to say enough already you f**kers get out.

    The Catholic Church has betrayed the Irish people. They are a disgrace, they should pack one bag and leave, heads bowed in shame, keeping their apologies to themselves. The Catholic Church has nothing to offer the Irish people except their property, money and the quiet exit.