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"I'll tell you the whole story about that budget. Probably there are people in this room still mad at me at that budget because you think I raised your taxes too much. It might surprise you to know that I think I raised them too much, too" -- Bill Clinton 1995
"I can't worry about every under capatilized business" -- Hillary Clinton, testifing before congress on the effects of Nationalized Health Care.
A lot more Clintoon gaffs here: http://www.rightwingnews.com/quotes/clinton.php
Gallup Daily: Barack Obama continuing to hold a solid lead over Hillary Clinton in national Democratic voters' support for the presidential nomination, 50% to 41%.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/106435/Gallup-Daily-...
In Goldsboro, close observers noticed a (light) smattering of stickers being worn by attendees. "I'm not bitter!" read the simple rectangular label on the lapels of a couple dozen in the crowd. The campaign says that the stickers are evidence of outrage at the grassroots level.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/13/9539/90...
WE HAVE TO INVESTIGATE HER LINK TO THE CLINTONS, BECUASE ACCORDING TO CNN IT WAS THE CLINTONS THAT WERE FORCING THEM TO REPORT THE STORY.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/...
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Yeah, that sounds spontaneous.
And the press falls for that crap?
(I only hope the print shop that made the stickers for the Hillary Campaign gets stiffed on the bill.)
http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/It39s-Obama...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55xDxaXw5E&NR=1
I hope we all remember who caused McCain to get elected in November, and it was Hillary Clinton.
It can't be repeated enough. If Obama isn't able to defeat McCain, the blame lays squarely on Hillary and Bill Clinton and their braindead supporters.
Two hundred millionaires attack Obama for being out of touch.
It is laughable.
http://trainwreckpolitics.com/2008/04/12/two-hu...
It;s not like Obama is the first person ever to say what he said...may not have be as PC as it could of been,,,but I under stand IF YOU READ THE WHOLE paragraph what Obamam was trying saying.
2 types of Republicans: Millionaires and suckers
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing...
The Repubs have nothing to offer working people economically, so they get them riled up over "God, Gays and Guns."
Heck, the Repubs themselves admit that's their strategy.
Only real surprise is that it's turning out to be Hillary's strategy too.
Someone should confront her about this statement made by her elitist husband (worth at least a hundred million, and still raking it in). They are so transparent, and the way she pounced on Obama (within minutes) after he made this statement, is appalling. I hope the latest Gallup Poll is right. I glad he did not apologize for what he said, but the way he said it.
Nice going, Hillary. The republicans are sooo happy with you for the great job you are doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hWZqllm3mQ
April 13 2008
One of Minnesota's last uncommitted Democratic superdelegates is backing Barack Obama, the Obama campaign announced Sunday.
Larson joins eight other Minnesota superdelegates who are supporting Obama. Three are backing Clinton.
Larson's announcement leaves U.S. Representative Collin Peterson as the only uncommitted superdelegate from the state.
http://www.startribune.com/politics/17591359.html
Her attacks on Obama, seem to backfire on her, don't they?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/33411...
The issue isn't that Obama called people bitter. Bitter people know that they're bitter, and they don't mind being called that.
But Obama dismissed religion and guns as some sort of crutch.
Sure, he can come back from this (look at Bill and the statements you've linked to), but it's going to take more than just apologizing.
He may have to talk like Joel from the first bit here for a while.
well allow me to retort. What Obama said was 100% correct. Why do poor people get guns and turn to religion? SECURITY. Poor people turn to guns and religion as a form of security when all else in their lives are out of control. Christianity and the gun lobby made billions off of playing on people's fears.
Because they believe in God and they like to hunt?
Not all religious people are bitter sheeple, you know. Some of them were religious before they were bitter.
And it's a bad idea to piss off 85% of the American people by saying that they've been duped into their faith.
people need machine guns to hunt deer and rabbit? LOL
religious people support killing innocent Iraqis based on lies by a war criminal? What would Jesus do? Excommunicate them all!
Nigel, when did Obama mention machine guns?
Nigel, when did I mention machine guns?
Nigel, when did I mention Iraq?
Nigel, I was discussing guns. And religion. Not Iraq. Not assault weapons.
He said when people go on hard times they turn to their faith for comfort. Nothing more. He has experienced this himself, sleeping in a alley one night in DC as a young broke college student because he missed his connection, no money for a hotel. Faith can get us through hard times, of course it helps people who are struggling, or should, right?. Don't churches have this mission?
Barack talks to people as if they are adults.....
Clinton twists it around ......more dumbing down of America.
I also feel they are living in a twilight zone, in denial, and (this reminds me of the Bush WH), don't give a damn about who they hurt.
Fox News.com goes into small town PA to ask people if they're bitter.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/13/133215/...
(Spoiler: They are.)
That is NOT what Barack said nor what he meant........there are many reason people turn to their faith....
forgive my generalisation. Some people (very few in the modern era) are devout believers who embrace goodwill to all mankind, but none of these people are in the media or serving in government...these people serve the other dude: SATAN! :-)
That may be what he meant, but what he said was ``So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion.''
What he *said* was that religion is something that you cling to when you're bitter, like a crutch.
If what he meant to say was that the religious lobby is exploiting people's bitterness, then he needs to come out and say it. Now. I think, if he actually came out and denounced some of these demagogues like Robertson and Hagee and Reed, and exposed them for the cynical frauds that they are, he could actually turn this whole thing into a positive.
Please understand that I'd rather have Obama than McCain, and I'd rather have Syphilis than Clinton. My motive here is to make Obama realize that this will hurt him more than he seems to think it will.
It will be brought up in the fall, and if he hasn't dealt with it properly (and to date, he hasn't), it will mean that he will lose Pennsylvania. I grew up in PA, and every one I've talked to who is still in PA is telling me that these statements are really making them mad.
If he wants to win in the fall, he will have to work harder--not to prove that he's a real American (he is certainly that), but to prove that he understands that religion isn't just a crutch or a fun social thing we do once a week. I believe that he believes that, but he's having a hard time making that clear.
When did Obama call religion a "crutch"? Your word or his? Getting paid much from the Clinton campaign? Or did the last cheque bounce and now you're bitter too?
Maybe it's not a crutch, but rather something that we cling to because we are weak. Is that better?
Am I bitter? Damned straight I'm bitter. That's why I'm not going to vote for Hillary or McCain.
And we need to get over the knee-jerk reactionism here. I'm criticizing Obama. Yes. Why? Because if he takes the criticism to heart and makes improvements based on it, he will be a more viable candidate.
Do I think that this scrutiny is good for Obama, like Hills is saying? Hell, no. I'd like to find out the name of the person who released Obama's equivalent of the Canuck letter and have them ejected from any future campaigns.
But this is more serious than some people seem to think. If you talk to rural voters, this is a serious flub, and it will take more than just apologizing to come back from it.
once rural voters hear the entire context (there was a great more said in his comment) of Obama's " truth gaffe", they'll understand Obama sympathises with them and share their concerns for the future of their children.
And rural PA voters are speaking out in support of Obama's entire comment, even though he retracted the offending part. Besides, talk radio is huge in that part of America. Those voters aren't bitter, they are outraged! $4.00/gal, home foreclosures, loss of jobs....
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/12/184747/...
What Obama Was Really Trying to Say
http://www.bittervoters.org/2008/04/what-obama-...
That's good stuff. He needs to come out and say this. What I heard him say in Terre Haute was that he understands that people vote on guns and religion.
Whereas on Charlie Rose, he says that he understands that people love and enjoy their faith. They love and enjoy hunting with their buddies. And that this is a strength for them. And finally that he cannot be condescending to those values.
This is what he needs to say. He just needs to get in front of a camera, put a VHS tape of this interview in the VCR, point to the screen and say, that's what I meant to say.
I think that would do it. At least, enough that he wouldn't lose significant numbers of voters.
They made $109 Million and waited 7 years for this!
If it hadn't been for that uppity black man.
Hence the present culture from war torn, constantly under seige, poor middle eastern countries.
Get up, stand up. Stand up for Americans. Vote Obama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsVkV3AZqqI
But is OK with Rendell calling Pennsyvanians racist.
Filed Under: 2008, Clinton, Obama
From NBC/NJ's Carrie Dann
GOLDSBORO, NC -- As is evident from political journalists' email boxes today, the Clinton campaign appears to believe it's found a silver bullet -- served with a side of brie and chardonnay -- in Obama's recent controversial comments.
On the same day that Obama's opponents keep their eyes peeled for outrage from small-town America, Bill Clinton is doing a marathon six-stop campaign day in rural eastern North Carolina, a swing billed by one supporter as a "Barbeque Tour."
But the issue doesn't seem to be sticking. Clinton himself has been silent on the issue. But at the first two events of the day, the campaign has sent one of Carolina's hometown boys out to push the issue before Clinton takes the stage. Tom Hendrickson, a Clinton supporter and former Democratic Party chairman, included a reading of Obama's comments in his introduction of Clinton.
"Senator Obama, don't pity us and think that we're bitter and frustrated," he said in Winterville this morning. "We are hard-working family folks who are smart, and we get it. We don't need pundits to tell us what to think."
Hendrickson repeated the sentiment at a later stop in Winston, but dropped the direct mention of Obama as the source of the quote.
In both instances, Hendrickson's speech evidenced little reaction from the crowd, which had been waiting for the main event for over an hour, and appeared to have little tolerance for a parade of surrogates.
By the third stop of the day in Goldsboro, Hendrickson did not even take the stage.
In Goldsboro, close observers noticed a (light) smattering of stickers being worn by attendees. "I'm not bitter!" read the simple rectangular label on the lapels of a couple dozen in the crowd. The campaign says that the stickers are evidence of outrage at the grassroots level.
Yet it's unclear how spontaneous the sentiment was. A boxful of the stickers was spotted at Clinton's first event of the day -- being whisked backstage.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/...
The facts are clear poor and middle class America are bitter and pissed off and disillusioned and depressed. If you don't share any of these feelings then you aren't poor or middle class. If you don't feel that your government has left you behind, that the job you thought you would have till retirement is now in Mexico is wrong and that again we have an election where the Candidates are saying everything they think you want to here then you are one of the very luck Americans who live in the Bush 30% bubble.
McCain and Clinton can try to dismiss Obama by saying he is insulting us, he isn't, he is stating fact. Life is not the nice glass is half full mantra. Religion gives people solace, it doesn't give them anything else, it doesn't solve their problems. We need to get beyond all the symbolism and realize thousands of Americans go to bed hungry at night. 30 million children have no health care. Minimum wage does not support anyone. That is the bitterness Obama was talking about. McCain dumped his wife and married a millionairess he has no clue, Hillary and Bill made $109 million in 8 years they are out of touch. The government is broken. It's purpose is to provide security and follow the wishes of the majority of Americans not the Corporate few who sacrifice nothing and demand everything.
TIME magazine points out that no matter how flawed Obama is, Hillary still couldn't win a national election against Hitler's dog. (the title says ``The case against Obama,'' but it's really about how weak the case against Obama is.)
Good thing she can't get the nom.
Are the people who live around me bitter, no all of them, a lot have simply given up. They aren't necessarily complainers but they also haven't voted in years because they recognize it is politician du jour. We had Santorum who represented us but he didn't live here he lived in Virginia. He was most concerned with man on dog sex, stopping abortion and getting school vouchers. He could care less what his constituents wanted.
We are bitter, depressed and realize there is not much we can do.
Poor, White and Pissed
http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2005/02/poor_whit...
Now telling lies, like the Bosnian sniper attack, bringing peace to Ireland,
and the attacks on a fellow democrat, is horrible.
Barack Obama made statements about small-town Americans. He described them as an "other" without the wherewithal to understand the circumstances around them (i.e., without Barack's ability to understand those circumstances), which explains why they have become bitter and turned to God and guns.
Bill Clinton made a statement about "economically insecure white people" turning to the Republican party because the Republicans run divisive campaigns aimed at the economically insecure.
One statement casts aspersions on the faith and intelligence of a group of a group of Americans; the other accused the Republican party of victimizing a group of Americans.
Yep, different.
You know, I have a four year old daughter. Every once in a while, she pushes another kid, maybe pulls their hair. She does something wrong. And when I discipline her, usually there's some story about who did what first, and I tell her I don't care what anyone else did, what she did was wrong.
My four year old gets that, why doesn't Americablog? Barack did a dumb thing, he inadvertently insulted a wide swath of the American people. No matter what Bill said, or Hilary said, or McCain said -- it doesn't change the fact that Barack did something for which he is now accountable.
Truly, if he and his supporters deal with it the right way, Barack could make a powerful statement about what he has learned about small town America. But pointing fingers at others and saying "Bill started it" or "But Hilary won't leave me alone" won't make it on the playground, let alone the Presidential campaign trail.