Hey isn't the lie about Sex Education legislation supported by Obama against the law because it is being aired on TV? Isn't there a FCC rule as to truthfulness or something?
Shouldn't Obama sue for defamation or Slander?
tbhull
· 1 year ago
100% correct. I would also urge Obama on Letterman tonight to drop another new mind vitamin or two on the publi so as to keep McCain-Palin on the defensive.
Obama needs help from Biden and other leading hdems yes, but this should not stop Obama from kicking these fucks in the face 24/7.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
SMT's suggested tactic is a good one...
lucky hussein
· 1 year ago
as I posted in another thread, here's something obama could say:
"I was not referring to Palin re: lipstick comment. However, now that McCain has brought it up, let's ask the question: is Palin a pig? When it comes to getting federal pork for her consituents, yes, she is a pig. When it comes to abusing her power of office, yes she is a pig. When it comes to protecting the environment, she is a pig. When it comes to helping herself to lobbyist's money, she is a pig"
JohnInTexas
· 1 year ago
Oh shit, I think I may have wet my pants a little. Somebody put some lipstick on McOinkOink, he looks a little pale.
Sage24
· 1 year ago
Obama did a great job today, with his "enough" statement, and also saying firmly that he is not going to let them get away with swiftboating. Good job, sir. I am also happy that he did not bow down to these guttersnipes and apologize. The feigned outrage keeps going on though. All the rethuglican talking heads, kept repeating the same talking points. But the videos of McCain that surfaced using the same lipstick comments, silenced many of them.
Perhaps Sen. Obama should hire Jon Stewart's writers, and get some good stuff in his ads. They have the knack of digging into past videos, just to disprove of what the rethuglicans are saying.
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
oooh do you have link to video?
JohnInTexas
· 1 year ago
The photo makes him look much more intelligent than he is.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
I want to see Palin's last 6 years of tax returns. Let's see how beholden she is to Big oil via the Big Salary her hubbie receives from Bil Oil.
Also, let's see if any off the record vbentures exist where the normal pit bull with lipstick makes a little on the side with the help of Big Oil. I do not know many rich pit bulls.
taward
· 1 year ago
Let's not just embrace the pig, let's extend it:
Trying to get the Republicans to tell the truth is like trying to teach a pig to sing -- it annoys the pig and wastes your time.
-or-
Bailouts -- Corporate pigs at the Republican trough
-or-
Republicans -- they never sweat, the just wallow in mud
etc. etc.
Keep it up enough and maybe we can replace the classic Thomas Nast image of an elephant with a pig for the modern Republican party.
P.S. for the fish analogy -- remember that a fish rots from the head down.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
SMT = smart media tactic.
SouthChamberDenizen
· 1 year ago
Absolutely! This turn of phrase is a winner!
As it's been reported to death throughout the day, I will skip straight to how it plays with someone who grew up in the little town of Lebanon, VA - the town Obama visited yesterday.
Folks in Lebanon know what "lipstick on a pig" means. We're no strangers to colloquial aphorisms. Its use by Obama was and is amusing and appropriate.
So wear it as a badge of honor.
I say, use it and use it often. Use it proudly. It's a phrase that resonates particularly well with rural voters - it's pithy, it's memorable, and it's accurate. Refusing to apologize and mocking the manufactured outrage is a great first response, but this story can be turned to Obama's big advantage.
This is one area where a traditionally Rovian tactic should be employed by the Obama camp - take a perceived weakness (the quote) and play it as a strength. Say it loud, say it proud, and repeat. "McCain's health care policy? It's George Bush's. It's more of the same. It's lipstick on a pig. McCain's tax policy? It's George Bush's. It's more of the same. It's lipstick on a pig. McCain's foreign policy? It's George Bush's. It's more of the same. It's lipstick on a pig."
If someone's trying to beat you over the head with a bat, you can take the beating, or you can hit back. But if you really want to win, you steal the bat and start swinging.
Obama, Never back down to them. It the Pigs that should be mad at McCain for saying that they were like Palin. After all being compared to Palin is an insult to pigs everywhere.
Kansaskitty
· 1 year ago
my kids raised 4-H pigs and I must say that I like pigs. They are smart and cute. Palin is no pig as she is not smart or cute.....just corrupt. Miz Palin, I knew pigs, and you are not a pig. Pigs are more honorable.
Anneliese
· 1 year ago
Well said! The whole mess is a horrible insult to pigs.
Kansaskitty
· 1 year ago
Love the photo! That made my day.
roberthenkel
· 1 year ago
The economy.
The economy.
The economy.
The economy.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
I agree just use it and use it, I am sure that it will only take McCain a week or two BEFORE he embraces it! Not only is he a liar, he plagiarizes almost every word Obama has uttered.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
I don't care what the republicans say, I am not changing my avatar!!! Little did I know that two weeks ago it would turn out to be a photo of Palin, or at least that's what they seem to want others to think. :)
johntaylor
· 1 year ago
Johntaylor, It is a good idea! I was very encouraged when obama didn't apologised like they demanded. It seems to me that the best way for Obama to respond to this latest manufactured outrage from the Mighty Wurlitzer is to do something that no Democrat has done before, but that Republicans do all. the. time. ================================================================= ASCIISOL
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Just saw a clip of Fred Thompson hammering home the "attacks" on Sarah Palin are disgraceful. Oh right, never mind her lies, never mind her sarcastic mouth JUST GET THE MESSAGE OUT, SHE IS A VICTIM.
From what I have seen and heard, Sarah Palin is only a victim in that she is being a tool for the GOP.
Relieved
· 1 year ago
This has probably been said already and the picture kind of indicates it, but in the interest of articulating an additional observation, Palin IS the lipstick in that picture.
Sage24
· 1 year ago
Here is Lincoln Chaffee calling Palin a "Cocky Whacko".
I see the media has gotten its talking points from the McCain campaign on today's story.
SHE IS A PIG. SHE IS A FASCIST PIG.
Unfortunately, Obama was talking about McCain and the Bush policies.
Obama is gonna lose. The more I see, the more I am sure that Sarah Palin will be President within 4 years. God help us all.
iWoman
· 1 year ago
I disagree. The media has actually been good, well, decent, about this story - they are repeatedly saying that McCain has used the same expression. Even female, conservative commentators are saying that they don't think Obama is sexist, and they think harping about this hurts McCain.
gregwire
· 1 year ago
And as we discuss this here, Joe Biden is in New Hampshire talking about how John McCain is his friend again.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
disqus keeps reposting my inane comment. trying to embarrass me i guess.
Kansaskitty
· 1 year ago
Get yerself over to Moveon. They are taking contributions to put ads up to fight the lies. I just threw in $30. Wish it could have been more, but I'm about tapped out.
iWoman
· 1 year ago
Good.
bard
· 1 year ago
It may be worth reminding the world that Dick Cheney said this, too. On the floor of the Senate, if I'm not mistaken. Where was the Republican outrage then?
Oh, and Sarah Palin described herself as a pit bull with lipstick. Dog? Pig? what's the difference?
Relieved
· 1 year ago
Even though he was referring to the vast number of problems our country faces and those who are most responsible for this mess, I was just wondering how Sen. Obama could be accused of being a sexist for -if anything- calling Gov. Palin lipstick? Wouldn't that be a compliment under the circumstances?
jcgraham77
· 1 year ago
Oh no you didnt!!!! We have officially crossed over into something other than an election!!!!!!! I love it!
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
yes. impunity. just like when the senator from the south kept calling Obamam "uppity". he did it again and again defended it. THEN yesterday he called a black reporter uppity for daring to question him.
gregwire
· 1 year ago
Now Biden is saying that Hillary Clinton would have been a better pick than him.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
How much for a shoe shine boy?
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
Excellent Point!
( How many times did we hear about the school buses in New Orleans...or "Heck of a job Brownie" )
It does work.....
Rucka123
· 1 year ago
The new ad should be about the Governor of Alaksa dipping DEEP into the "earmark trough" and hogging more federal dollars per capita than any other state governor...
The founding fathers were so committed to a free press as fundamental to a democracy that they included it in our Bill of Rights. Today we see people like Bob Schieffer applauding wildly as Sarah delivers her cheap one liners at the Repo Party convention. The GOP candidates are so arrogantly assured that their tracks will be covered by the corporate media that they lie openly and shamelessly. When Obama points out the more obvious misrepresentations the press infers that he is whining. The GOP candidates refuse to answer questions, even from lapdog media whores, and no one in the press corps dares utter even a lame objection. Isn't there even one journalist like Ed Murrow to call them on this.
Relieved
· 1 year ago
My post s dissappeared, so allow me to summarily recap for others' opinion despite how silly the whole thing is: As the picture indicates, McCain (representing 4 more years) is the pig, which means Palin is the lipstick, so it's illogical that Obama should be accused of being a sexist for essentially paying Gov. Palin a compliment. Focus on McCain.
Delia
· 1 year ago
OINK OINK!!!!!!!
Aanya
· 1 year ago
Obama absolutely needs to scream at every event that McCain's campaign troops are all closely connected to Bush and Cheney. Nicolle Devenish Wallace is McCain's spokesman. She was Bush's spokesman for both this pesidential campaigns. Karl Rove was proven yesterday to be on McCain's staff. Obama needs to make the list, expose the list, and keep asking how McCain can possible bring a lick of change with all those "same Old" Bush people? There will never be any real change until a "new " administration takes over. Is McCain going to dump anyone ever connected to Bush? I wouldn't bet on it! This lipstick on a pig issue is money from heaven. I sure hope Obama makes good use of all this!
TomJoad
· 1 year ago
NOW I'm with you! I wasn't on the "Your'e no John McCain", but am wholeheartedly with you on this.
You know what I was thinking...in our society in general, forever really, (even Mark Twais wrote about the "good little boy" in his time) parents, teachers, authorities tell children, especially boys, to obey the rules, look both ways, be polite, say "yes please" and "thank you"....all the while secretly hating or at best mistrusting the kid that actually DOES that, favoring the mischevious kid that disobeys, causes a mess, etc. with a twinkle in the eye.
Seriously, I exaggerated, but just a little. Democrats want so much to run campaigns that don't get harsh, don't get impolite. Voters see this, maybe even admire it, then turn around and vote for the pig that lied, growled, bellowed, got down and dirty.
I'm saying there is a middle way that can get benefits of both. Definitely cannot be meek. Defnitely cannot act wimpy. One can stay moral though by calling a lie a lie, by treating bullshit with scorn instead of like Wesley Clark, getting misquoted, misunderstood on purpose, and by ANY form of apology at all, you give creedence to the lie.
SO, your way is perfect. Laugh as you scorn the bullshit. Smile at the audience and let them know YOU (Obama) gives them credit for NOT being as dumb as the other side would have it.
Take away their talking points, and keep on hammering the real issues.
there is nothing for which to apologize, now is there?
Relieved
· 1 year ago
Not only is there no need to apologize, but Palin should say, "Thank you."
SRhodes
· 1 year ago
Best. Photoshop. Ever. (for this political season at least!) Demands tshirts, posters, etc!
TomJoad
· 1 year ago
Further...Obama ought to seize the opportunity...
"There are only two possible explanations for McCains response to me pointing out his policy is not about change. Either he and his campaign are so out of touch they cannot understand simple analogies, OR he thinks you voters are so stupid that he can manufacture a bogus indignation over something obviously not true. Either way, it doesn't reflect well on him"
In context though, John McCain isn't even the pig. Seriously. The pig is the failed policies of George W. Bush and the lipstick is John McCain. It's the same policies with a new face.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Pig's kinda cute when he's mad and gets all dolled up anyway. McOink.
Oh my gosh John, this morning I was thinking the same thing listening to Air America: Obama should NEVER apologize for the republiCON nonsense and fake "outrage".
SarainKC
· 1 year ago
This is a perfect way to deal with this. Just like with the "terrorist fist jab", turning that on FIXed news and making a mockery out of them by laughing it off and turning the gester in the new cool thing to do silenced them fast on that particular meme. We all know Republicans are missing their sense of humor gene. This is a great idea. Make fun of them. Someone should make a fish with a pig nose and name it McSame!
All Comments
If only the following vid had SMT's shopped face singing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6NxH3rWRfs
Shouldn't Obama sue for defamation or Slander?
Obama needs help from Biden and other leading hdems yes, but this should not stop Obama from kicking these fucks in the face 24/7.
"I was not referring to Palin re: lipstick comment. However, now that McCain has brought it up, let's ask the question: is Palin a pig? When it comes to getting federal pork for her consituents, yes, she is a pig. When it comes to abusing her power of office, yes she is a pig. When it comes to protecting the environment, she is a pig. When it comes to helping herself to lobbyist's money, she is a pig"
Perhaps Sen. Obama should hire Jon Stewart's writers, and get some good stuff in his ads. They have the knack of digging into past videos, just to disprove of what the rethuglicans are saying.
Also, let's see if any off the record vbentures exist where the normal pit bull with lipstick makes a little on the side with the help of Big Oil. I do not know many rich pit bulls.
Trying to get the Republicans to tell the truth is like trying to teach a pig to sing -- it annoys the pig and wastes your time.
-or-
Bailouts -- Corporate pigs at the Republican trough
-or-
Republicans -- they never sweat, the just wallow in mud
etc. etc.
Keep it up enough and maybe we can replace the classic Thomas Nast image of an elephant with a pig for the modern Republican party.
P.S. for the fish analogy -- remember that a fish rots from the head down.
As it's been reported to death throughout the day, I will skip straight to how it plays with someone who grew up in the little town of Lebanon, VA - the town Obama visited yesterday.
Folks in Lebanon know what "lipstick on a pig" means. We're no strangers to colloquial aphorisms. Its use by Obama was and is amusing and appropriate.
So wear it as a badge of honor.
I say, use it and use it often. Use it proudly. It's a phrase that resonates particularly well with rural voters - it's pithy, it's memorable, and it's accurate. Refusing to apologize and mocking the manufactured outrage is a great first response, but this story can be turned to Obama's big advantage.
This is one area where a traditionally Rovian tactic should be employed by the Obama camp - take a perceived weakness (the quote) and play it as a strength. Say it loud, say it proud, and repeat. "McCain's health care policy? It's George Bush's. It's more of the same. It's lipstick on a pig. McCain's tax policy? It's George Bush's. It's more of the same. It's lipstick on a pig. McCain's foreign policy? It's George Bush's. It's more of the same. It's lipstick on a pig."
If someone's trying to beat you over the head with a bat, you can take the beating, or you can hit back. But if you really want to win, you steal the bat and start swinging.
Shameless plug: Now, I'm Just Sayin'
The economy.
The economy.
The economy.
Little did I know that two weeks ago it would turn out to be a photo of Palin, or at least that's what they seem to want others to think. :)
It is a good idea! I was very encouraged when obama didn't apologised like they demanded. It seems to me that the best way for Obama to respond to this latest manufactured outrage from the Mighty Wurlitzer is to do something that no Democrat has done before, but that Republicans do all. the. time.
=================================================================
ASCIISOL
From what I have seen and heard, Sarah Palin is only a victim in that she is being a tool for the GOP.
Well said.
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/...
SHE IS A PIG. SHE IS A FASCIST PIG.
Unfortunately, Obama was talking about McCain and the Bush policies.
Obama is gonna lose. The more I see, the more I am sure that Sarah Palin will be President within 4 years. God help us all.
Oh, and Sarah Palin described herself as a pit bull with lipstick. Dog? Pig? what's the difference?
( How many times did we hear about the school buses in New Orleans...or "Heck of a job Brownie" )
It does work.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLgm1I8bVVE
Shove it back in the media's face.
As the picture indicates, McCain (representing 4 more years) is the pig, which means Palin is the lipstick, so it's illogical that Obama should be accused of being a sexist for essentially paying Gov. Palin a compliment. Focus on McCain.
You know what I was thinking...in our society in general, forever really, (even Mark Twais wrote about the "good little boy" in his time) parents, teachers, authorities tell children, especially boys, to obey the rules, look both ways, be polite, say "yes please" and "thank you"....all the while secretly hating or at best mistrusting the kid that actually DOES that, favoring the mischevious kid that disobeys, causes a mess, etc. with a twinkle in the eye.
Seriously, I exaggerated, but just a little. Democrats want so much to run campaigns that don't get harsh, don't get impolite. Voters see this, maybe even admire it, then turn around and vote for the pig that lied, growled, bellowed, got down and dirty.
I'm saying there is a middle way that can get benefits of both. Definitely cannot be meek. Defnitely cannot act wimpy. One can stay moral though by calling a lie a lie, by treating bullshit with scorn instead of like Wesley Clark, getting misquoted, misunderstood on purpose, and by ANY form of apology at all, you give creedence to the lie.
SO, your way is perfect. Laugh as you scorn the bullshit. Smile at the audience and let them know YOU (Obama) gives them credit for NOT being as dumb as the other side would have it.
Take away their talking points, and keep on hammering the real issues.
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/...
there is nothing for which to apologize, now is there?
Demands tshirts, posters, etc!
"There are only two possible explanations for McCains response to me pointing out his policy is not about change. Either he and his campaign are so out of touch they cannot understand simple analogies, OR he thinks you voters are so stupid that he can manufacture a bogus indignation over something obviously not true. Either way, it doesn't reflect well on him"
http://iamatvjunkie.typepad.com/i_am_a_tv_junki...
Here's the cheerleader for pig-gate:
http://mediaspin.com/blog/wp-images/rove-pig-to...
Oh my gosh John, this morning I was thinking the same thing listening to Air America: Obama should NEVER apologize for the republiCON nonsense and fake "outrage".
http://heylookhear.com/UserImage/mccain-pig1