Back in 19th Century Europe, the mentally ill were consigned to prison-like asylums. The well-to-do folks would, for entertainment, go down to the asylums and pay the guards to rattle the doors and bang on the bars and get the inmates to shrieking and howling.
The MSM now plays the role of the guards and is paid by the corporatocracy to make sure that the hopelessly insane howl as much as possible.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 4 months ago
MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News ALL televised Specter's town hall this morning, hardly cutting away for a word from their sponsors--they were all transfixed by the possibility that one of the "Kill Him!" Crowd would pop the 80 year-old cancer survivor in the kisser.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 4 months ago
Up at Talking Points Memo: new poll shows 8% of North Carolinians don't know or are not sure if Hawaii "is part of America."
Folks - face it - this is over. Obama has blown it big time and the Republicans, the Insurance Companies and a few Demopubs (Bauccus & the Blue Dogs) have won. The best thing to do now it to drop the whole area of health care reform like a hot potato. That will give the Insurance Companies freedom to double rates in the next couple of years and that should knock another 20 to 30% of the populace off the rolls. Lots of nice folks will die but that's the way it is. That's what masses want and that's what they deserve.
woodka
· 4 months ago
Oh, bull. It hasn't even BEGUN. Go away if that's how you feel, but a lot of us are more than willing to ride this out and get it done.
caphillprof
· 4 months ago
It was over before it began; it was over when Obama took single payer health care off the table. In the absence of single payer health care, any compromise is way off the mark.
The train has left the station and there will be no true reform.
Enjoy your ride.
nicho
· 4 months ago
Get what "done" exactly? The best proposal out there is a boon for the insurance companies and Big Pharma. The plan Obama is pushing is weaker than the one proposed by Richard Nixon in 1974 (which was supported by the GOP, the insurance industry, Big Pharma and the AMA).
Indigo
· 4 months ago
The shouting will fade way, true enough. Inaccessible health care will not.
Indigo
· 4 months ago
"un-American"? Don't we mean "anti-American"?
Gridlock
· 4 months ago
I think the most pressing matter is that the supposed SANE people are doing absolutely nothing to shut the crazies up, and are letting them run rampant while they wring their hands in consternation.
How pathetic is that.
woodka
· 4 months ago
Well, some of us are doing plenty -- calling our senators and reps, letting them know we respect them and know they are under a lot of pressure from the idiots, and giving them our support. If you're not doing that, why not?
nicho
· 4 months ago
Because the only people they care about are the lobbyists who finance their campaigns. That's why. They could give a shit less what you or I think. They haven't for a long long time. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool or a liar.
caphillprof
· 4 months ago
What exactly is it that sane people are supposed to support? Obama doesn't have a health care plan. He had campaign promises, but we see now those are worthless. We have 2 different House bills, nowhere near anything in the Senate. What exactly are sane people supposed to be rallying behind?
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 4 months ago
Great point; Obama knew, since he's not stupid, that a strong draft needed to be out of Congress by the August recess, and they let him (and themselves) down.
These toads deserve what they get at their town halls.
woodka
· 4 months ago
"The problem is that the Republican party, and its apparatus on FOX News and talk radio, is fostering and empowering the crazies."
Exactly -- what we need to show is THEIR connection to the health care industry. Follow the money -- and report on it. Tell the crazies exactly who they are really working for, who pays off their heros Rush and Glenn. The morons need to know who it is they march for.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 4 months ago
Rachel is doing this every night on MSNBC, which is good.
The "Kill Him!" Crowd don't watch MSNBC, which is not good.
KerrynowCampau
· 4 months ago
I was thinking that last night while watching Keith's special comment The people that need to see it the most won't
Steve_in_CNJ
· 4 months ago
i also liked this from john's post: "...the crazies are being given the political equivalent of fertility pills." the ted kasczynskis are eating out of timothy mcveigh's fertilizer truck...
caphillprof
· 4 months ago
It's not just FOX News and talk radio, network television is corporate owned and corporate controlled and loving the crazies and not at spending any time or resources on getting the facts straight. So too with most big city newspapers. WaPo? Anyone?
Guest
· 4 months ago
Better to have the rats scurrying about in the light of day. There can now be no doubt about the nature of the opposition. Not at all cunning. Just sad rabid haters that will gather in packs looking to get the next hate on. Yes, modern republicans revealed. Ugly. Giant sewer rat ugly.
VJBinCT
· 4 months ago
'It's that the crazies are being given the political equivalent of fertility pills. '
Exactly. Even mild, old (I am 65 today), progressive me feels ready to tear out somebody's throat with my very own personal teeth. If that isn't scary, I don't know what is.
KerrynowCampau
· 4 months ago
I guess you are just supposed to be glad you still have your own teeth
Happy Birthday!
VJBinCT
· 4 months ago
and my own hair, may the crazies have to choke up a hairball!
VJBinCT
· 4 months ago
and BTW, thanks.
Anne in Colorado
· 4 months ago
And it's a problem that 20 years ago Christian Colleges were promoting the work of Francis Schaffer who predicted that life would become so devalued that panels like this would take place. It's not rooted in reality, and we know it, but mythology is powerful and the Dems need to do a far better job evoking alternate mythogies instead of tilting at windmills.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 4 months ago
Obama is working his rhetorical magic today in NH. For now, he is focusing on insurance industry abuses, rather than the cost of premiums. It's a good populist message and a good strategy. http://www.dailykostv.com/w/002045/
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 4 months ago
And you're coming back to this zoo, John? Willingly?!
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 4 months ago
Specter and Cornyn are just two of the GOP toads who are now reaping what they sowed in this summer's town halls.
Heh.
ripples
· 4 months ago
"Gulps of lithium"
Super.
I guess bigotry only counts when it's your own ass on the line. Kinda undermines your righteous anger re: equality.
At least for those of us who take lithium but are not WRITING ALL CAPS LETTERS TO CONGRESS. LOOK IM CRAZY!!!!
What a joke.
GusII
· 4 months ago
Been watching the healthcare town halls today, the angry part of the crowds seem to bring up arguments against single payer, or the British model. There is nothing I’ve seen in the Senate bill that is close to that model. All that type of reform has been thrown out the HillaryCare window. How can you answer a question about something that doesn’t exist?
JamesR
· 4 months ago
But we have "death panels" already!? Private, for-profit and unaccountable even to their shareholders. What planet do these people think they're living on? Here's just one article, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathleen-reardon/... - There are so many more. They're called REALITY.
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The MSM now plays the role of the guards and is paid by the corporatocracy to make sure that the hopelessly insane howl as much as possible.
That's a lotta dumbfuckery.
The train has left the station and there will be no true reform.
Enjoy your ride.
How pathetic is that.
These toads deserve what they get at their town halls.
Exactly -- what we need to show is THEIR connection to the health care industry. Follow the money -- and report on it. Tell the crazies exactly who they are really working for, who pays off their heros Rush and Glenn. The morons need to know who it is they march for.
The "Kill Him!" Crowd don't watch MSNBC, which is not good.
The people that need to see it the most won't
"...the crazies are being given the political equivalent of fertility pills."
the ted kasczynskis are eating out of timothy mcveigh's fertilizer truck...
Yes, modern republicans revealed. Ugly. Giant sewer rat ugly.
Exactly. Even mild, old (I am 65 today), progressive me feels ready to tear out somebody's throat with my very own personal teeth. If that isn't scary, I don't know what is.
Happy Birthday!
http://www.dailykostv.com/w/002045/
Heh.
Super.
I guess bigotry only counts when it's your own ass on the line. Kinda undermines your righteous anger re: equality.
At least for those of us who take lithium but are not WRITING ALL CAPS LETTERS TO CONGRESS. LOOK IM CRAZY!!!!
What a joke.